Minutes interim-1992-iesg-25 1992-10-19 16:00
minutes-interim-1992-iesg-25-199210191600-00
Meeting Minutes | Internet Engineering Steering Group (iesg) IETF | |
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Date and time | 1992-10-19 16:00 | |
Title | Minutes interim-1992-iesg-25 1992-10-19 16:00 | |
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minutes-interim-1992-iesg-25-199210191600-00
Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences REPORT FROM THE TELECONFERENCE October 19th, 1992 Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items. For more information please contact the IESG Secretary. ATTENDEES --------- Almquist, Philip / Consultant Crocker, Dave / TBO Crocker, Steve / TIS Coya, Steve / CNRI Davin, Chuck / Bellcore Gross, Philip / ANS Hinden, Robert / SUN Hobby, Russ / UC-DAVIS Huizer, Erik / SURFnet Reynolds, Joyce / ISI Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI Regrets Borman, David / Cray Research AGENDA ------ 1) Administivia o Role Call o Bash the Agenda o Approval of the Minutes o Date of next IESG Teleconference 2) Protocol Action o IP over FDDI to Draft o Network Time Protocol V3 to Draft Standard o Token Ring MIB o Concise MIB definitions to Draft o IP Addressing Guidelines o RIP Version 2 o RIP Version 2 MIB o RIP Protocol Analysis o Ident, Ident MIB 4) Technical Management Issues o SMTP Extensions o ROAD Activities o New IESG Area Directors o Better Technical review/guidance (continuation) MINUTES ------- 1) Administrivia o Approval of the Minutes The IESG approved the minutes of the October 1th Teleconference. o Next Meeting The IESG set dates for October 23, 11am-1pm ET, November 2nd and November 9th 12-2 ET. 2) Protocol Actions o IP over FDDI A revised version of the IP over FDDI Specification was posted as an Internet Draft reflecting updates to the protocol specification to match the current use of the protocol. In particular, references to dual MAC use were deleted and support of hardware type 6 was dropped, a relic of RFC 1103. The IESG discussed the requirements for Draft and Standard status and how IP over FDDI satisfied these requirements. Discussion on the general issue is recorded in the technical management section of these minutes. IP over FDDI was approved for Full Standard. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB requesting that IP over FDDI published as a Draft Standard protocol. o Network Time Protocol The Network Time Protocol has remained in grade long enough to be advanced to Draft Standard status. The IESG and RFC Editor have agreed that the Postscript document can remain the primary document given the current sub-optimal ASCII specification. The IESG is aware of two implementations of the protocol, one for the Fuzzball and one for generic Unix platforms. It is not clear whether these implementations are sufficiently independent for elevation for Draft Standard. ACTION: Hobby -- Investigate the two NTP implementations and determine if these implementations are sufficiently independent to validate the specification as required for Draft Standard. o Token Ring MIB Work is still underway to determine if the Token Ring MIB has sufficient implementation experience to be elevated to Draft Standard. o Concise MIB Definitions The IESG review RFC 1212, "Concise MIB Definitions" and approved a recommendation to elevate it to Standard status. This MIB format extensions should be considered part of the SMI standard and should be given the same requirement level as SNMP itself, recommended. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- With Chuck Davin, write and send a recommendation to the IAB to elevate RFC 1212 to Standard. o IP Addressing Guidelines The IESG discussed the IP Addressing Proposal and the comments received early in the last call period. It appears that this document may have been sent to the IESG a bit pre-maturely and may not have the necessary consensus. ACTION: Gross, Stockman -- Investigate and report on the consensus for the specific IP addressing guidelines contained in the IP Addressing Guidelines document. There is an ongoing discussion with the IAB about the choice of Proposed Standard as a designation for this document. This is both a policy document for the assignment of IP Addresses and a technical architecture for CIDR. The IESG is aware that another version of this document will be submitted to the Internet Drafts directory which may split the document into two. The IESG agreed that the addressing guidelines themselves should be an informational document that should be adopted as policy by relevant operational bodies. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- List the IP Addressing Guidelines as awaiting a new document and remove it from the IESG agenda. ACTION: Gross, Stockman -- Insure that a new version of the IP Addressing Guidelines are posted as an Internet Draft. o RIP Version 2 There was nothing to report. o Ident, Ident MIB Agreement on the wording about the use of character sets in IDENT has been reached and a new version of the document will be posted to the Internet Drafts directories shortly. 3) Technical Management Issues o SMTP Extensions After the last IESG communication to the Working Group, it appears the group has begun lively discussions and had made significant progress on the technical issues raised during the last call. Closure still seems elusive and the current impasse seems to be over matters of document style and content. It was suggested to the Applications AD that intervention would be a good thing, either by proposing a strawman solution or actively drawing consensus from the current discussion on the mailing list. ACTION: Hobby - Make a strawman proposal or a summary of current progress to the working group mailing list to facilitate movement. o Document/Protocol Review The IESG has been working on a standardize checklist to aid in the though evaluation of protocols. This checklist has been circulated in draft form and with additional edits is intended to be used by Working Group chairmen prior to sending a protocol to the IESG. Information to be supplied includes a list of implementations and a gauge of the operational testing and deployment of a protocol. ACTION: Coya -- Find and send to the IESG the latest checklist guidelines for protocol advancement. 2) Poised Working Group Progress The Poised Working Group mailing list has been very active. To help channel this activity and facilitate closure on a specific proposal, Carl Malamud has been asked to prepare a draft proposal from the discussions on the list and discussions with key participants. o New IESG Area Directors With the departure of Noel Chiappa and Susan Estrada, there are several openings on the IESG. The IESG has discussed moving OSI protocols into the areas where they would naturally fall as a means of increasing integration and coordination with the current protocols. Moving addressing into the Routing Area was also discussed. The IESG discussed an area re-alignment but did not reach a firm discussion and scheduled a follow up teleconference for this Friday to resolve the remaining issues. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Prepare an agenda for the (mostly) single topic November 2th teleconference on IESG structure. Appendix - Action Items ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB requesting that IP over FDDI published as a Standard protocol. ACTION: Hobby -- Investigate the two NTP implementations and determine if these implementations are sufficiently independent to validate the specification as required for Draft Standard. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- With Chuck Davin, write and send a recommendation to the IAB to elevate RFC 1212 to Standard. ACTION: Gross, Stockman -- Investigate and report on the consensus for the specific IP addressing guidelines contained in the IP Addressing Guidelines document. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- List the IP Addressing Guidelines as Working Group Discuss pending a new document. ACTION: Gross, Stockman -- Insure that a new version of the IP Addressing Guidelines are posted as an Internet Draft. ACTION: Hobby - Make a strawman proposal or a summary of current progress to the working group mailing list to facilitate movement. ACTION: Coya -- Find and send to the IESG the latest checklist guidelines for protocol advancement. ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Prepare an agenda for the (mostly) single topic November 2th teleconference on IESG structure Appendix - Mailing List discussions o IP Addressing Guidelines. Discussion has continued on the IP Addressing guidelines document. It is clear that an addressing plan like the one proposed is necessary for CIDR to operate and that a uniform policy is needed. Whether a required policy is a standard is unclear but agreement that these guidelines were something that needs to be endorsed by the IAB/IESG.