Minutes interim-2008-iesg-02 2008-01-24 16:30
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Minutes of the IESG Teleconferences

    INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
    Minutes of the January 24, 2008 IESG Teleconference

    Reported by: Amy Vezza, IETF Secretariat

    ATTENDEES
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    Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
    Marc Blanchet (Viagenie, Inc.) / Scribe
    Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
    Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
    Lisa Dusseault (OSAF) / Applications Area
    Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
    Sandy Ginoza (ISI) / RFC Editor liaison
    Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
    Cullen Jennings (Cisco) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
    Chris Newman (Sun Microsystems) / Applications Area
    Jon Peterson (NeuStar, Inc.) / Real-time App. and Infra. Area
    Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
    Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
    Amy Vezza (NSS) / IETF Secretariat
    Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area

    REGRETS
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    Loa Andersson (Acreo) / IAB Liaison
    Ross Callon (Juniper Network) / Routing Area
    Spencer Dawkins (Huawei (USA)) / Scribe
    Nora Duhig (NSS) / IETF Secretariat
    Marshall Eubanks (Multicast Tech) / Scribe
    Barbara Fuller (NSS) / IETF Secretariat
    Sam Hartman (MIT) / Security Area
    Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
    Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
    Dinara Suleymanova (NSS) / IETF Secretariat
    Mark Townsley (Cisco) / Internet Area
    Dave Ward (IEng) / Routing Area

    MINUTES
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    1. Administrivia
    1.1 Approval of the Minutes

    The minutes of the January 10, 2008 Teleconference were
    approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public
    archives.

    The narrative minutes for Decemeber 20, 2007 and January 10,
    2008 were approved. The Secretariat will place the narrative
    minutes in the public archives.

    1.2 Documents Approved since the January 10, 2008 IESG
    Teleconference

    1.2.1 Protocol Actions

    o draft-ietf-shim6-hba-05.txt (Proposed Standard)

    1.2.2 Document Actions

    o draft-huston-6to4-reverse-dns-07.txt (Informational)
    o draft-ietf-16ng-ps-goals-04.txt (Informational)
    o draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-fmwk-05.txt (Informational)
    o draft-ietf-ccamp-mpls-gmpls-interwork-reqts-04.txt (Informational)
    o draft-ietf-ipfix-implementation-guidelines-08.txt (Informational)
    o draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc3330-for-ipv6-04.txt (Informational)
    o draft-ietf-v6ops-scanning-implications-04.txt (Informational)

    1.3 Review of Action Items

    DONE:

    o Cullen Jennings to get a response from the AVT WG to help
    solve an IANA Registration issue for wave-avi-codec-registry
    [IANA # 97962]

    DELETED:

    NONE

    IN PROGRESS:

    o Lisa Dusseault to develop statement about IESG policy with
    respect to RFC 3406 registrations.
    o Jari Arkko to write an explanation of IESG policy of when
    ADs can request documents be considered by the IESG before
    the Last Call has ended.
    o Sam Hartman to write a draft explanation of informational
    balloting.

    NEW:

    o All Area Directors to process two existing errata assigned
    to their area as a learning exercise DEADLINE: February 7,
    2008 Teleconference.
    o Lars Eggert to find primary and secondary experts for Port Numbers.

    2. Protocol Actions
    2.1 WG Submissions
    2.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-btns-core-06.txt - 1 of 4
    Better-Than-Nothing-Security: An Unauthenticated Mode of IPsec (Proposed
    Standard) Token: Sam Hartman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order
    to resolve points raised by Tim Polk.*

    o draft-simon-emu-rfc2716bis-13.txt - 2 of 4
    The EAP TLS Authentication Protocol (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Sam Hartman

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order
    to resolve points raised by Chris Newman.*

    o draft-ietf-manet-packetbb-11.txt - 3 of 4
    Generalized MANET Packet/Message Format (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ross Callon

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order
    to resolve points raised by Lars Eggert, Russ Housley, Chris
    Newman, Tim Polk, Dan Romascanu, and Magnus Westerlund.*

    o draft-ietf-manet-timetlv-04.txt - 4 of 4
    Representing multi-value time in MANETs (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Ross Callon

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order
    to resolve points raised by Jari Arkko, Russ Housley, Tim Polk,
    Dan Romascanu, and Magnus Westerlund.*

    2.1.2 Returning Item
    o draft-ietf-shim6-failure-detection-10.txt - 1 of 2
    Failure Detection and Locator Pair Exploration Protocol for IPv6
    Multihoming (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Mark Townsley

    Jari Arkko formally recused himself from the discussion. The
    document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
    points raised by Lars Eggert, Cullen Jennings, and David Ward.*

    o draft-ietf-shim6-proto-09.txt - 2 of 2
    Shim6: Level 3 Multihoming Shim Protocol for IPv6 (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Jari Arkko

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order
    to resolve points raised by Ron Bonica, Ross Callon, Sam
    Hartman, Tim Polk, Dan Romascanu, David Ward, and Magnus
    Westerlund.*

    2.2 Individual Submissions
    2.2.1 New Item
    o draft-gulbrandsen-imap-enable-05.txt - 1 of 1
    The IMAP ENABLE Extension (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Chris Newman

    The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will
    send an individual submission Protocol Action Announcement
    that includes an RFC Editor Note prepared by Chris Newman.

    2.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3. Document Actions
    3.1 WG Submissions
    3.1.1 New Item

    o draft-ietf-v6ops-802-16-deployment-scenarios-06.txt - 1 of 1
    IPv6 Deployment Scenarios in 802.16 Networks (Informational)
    Token: Ron Bonica

    The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order
    to resolve points raised by Jari Arkko, Russ Housley, Tim Polk,
    and Dan Romascanu.*

    3.1.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
    3.2.1 New Item
    o draft-evain-ebu-urn-02.txt - 1 of 2
    A Uniform Resource Name (URN) Namespace for the European
    Broadcasting Union (EBU) (Informational)
    Token: Lisa Dusseault

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor
    Note to be prepared by Lisa Dusseault. The Secretariat will
    send an individual submission Document Action Announcement
    that includes the RFC Editor Note.

    o draft-dondeti-oma-mmusic-sdp-attrs-00.txt - 2 of 2
    Session Description Protocol (SDP) Attributes for OMA BCAST Service and
    Content Protection (Informational) Token: Cullen Jennings

    The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor
    Note to be prepared by Cullen Jennings. The Secretariat will
    send an individual submission Document Action Announcement
    that includes the RFC Editor Note.

    3.2.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    3.3 Independent Submissions Via RFC Editor
    3.3.1 New Item
    o draft-levis-provider-qos-agreement-04.txt - 1 of 1
    Considerations of provider-to-provider agreements for Internet-scale QoS
    (Informational) Token: Magnus Westerlund

    The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing
    this document. The Secretariat will send a standard "no
    problem" message to the RFC Editor that includes an RFC
    Editor Note and IESG Note already in the I-D Tracker.

    3.3.2 Returning Item

    NONE

    4. Working Group Actions
    4.1 WG Creation
    4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review

    NONE

    4.1.2 Proposed for Approval

    o vCard and CardDAV (vcarddav)- 1 of 2
    Token: Chris Newman

    The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The
    Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

    o Routing Over Low power and Lossy networks (roll) - 2 of 2
    Token: David Ward

    The IESG decided not to approve the charter for the working
    group at this time. The Secretariat will place the working
    group on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (02/07/2008).

    4.2 WG Rechartering
    4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF Review

    o Public-Key Infrastructure (X.509) (pkix) - 1 of 1
    Token: Tim Polk

    The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised
    charter pending edits to the charter to be provided by Tim
    Polk. The Secretariat will send a WG Review: Recharter
    announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org.
    The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next
    IESG teleconference (02/07/2008).

    4.2.2 Proposed for Approval

    NONE

    5. IAB News We Can Use

    6. Management Issues

    6.1 Appeal (Russ Housley)

    The management issue was discussed in an executive session on
    January 17, 2008 with all IESG members present except Jon
    Peterson and Ross Callon. The IESG approved a response to
    the appeal from Todd Glassey.

    6.2 RFC Errata (Russ Housley)

    The management issue was discussed.
    Action item: All Area Directors to process two existing
    errata assigned to their area as a learning exercise
    DEADLINE: February 7, 2008 Teleconference.

    6.3 Guidance to WG Chairs regarding off-topic mail list posting (Russ
    Housley)

    The management issue was discussed in an executive session
    on January 17, 2008 with all IESG members present except Jon
    Peterson and Ross Callon. An IESG statement on this topic
    was approved.

    6.4 Executive Session for IAOC Candidate Selection (Russ Housley)

    The management issue was discussed in an executive session. The IESG
    has selected Ole J. Jacobsen for a two-year term on the IAOC starting
    in March 2008.

    6.5 Designate Port Numbers expert [IANA #137962] (Michelle Cotton)

    The management issue was discussed.
    Action item: Lars Eggert to find primary and secondary experts
    for Port Numbers.

    7. Working Group News We Can Use

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