Minutes interim-2010-iesg-24 2010-12-16 16:30
minutes-interim-2010-iesg-24-201012161630-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the December 16, 2010 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Routing Area
Gonzalo Camarillo / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor liaison
Susan Hares / Scribe
David Harrington (HuaweiSymantec) / Transport Area
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
Barry Leiba / Scribe
Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Peter Saint-Andre (Cisco) / Applications Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Hannes Tschofenig (Nokia Siemens Networks) / IAB Liaison
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Security Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS
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Linda Dunbar / Scribe
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
Glenn Kowack / RFC Series Editor
John Leslie / Scribe
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD


MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the December 2, 2010 Teleconference were approved.  The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the December 2, 2010 Teleconferences was
approved.  The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the December 2, 2010 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
 o draft-das-mipshop-andsf-dhcp-options-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-rfc3984bis-12.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-geopriv-held-identity-extensions-06.txt (Proposed
   Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 o draft-ietf-netlmm-mip-interactions-07.txt (Informational)
 o draft-ietf-proto-wgdocument-states-10.txt (Informational)
 o draft-juskevicius-datatracker-wgdocstate-reqts-08.txt (Informational)
 o draft-levine-rfb-03.txt (Informational)
 o draft-mcgrew-fundamental-ecc-04.txt (Informational)
 o draft-tsou-diameter-explicit-routing-05.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
 o Sean Turner to determine if it is safe to use the old and new
   protocol numbers in the same port [IANA #404374].

IN PROGRESS:
 o Jari Arkko to add guidance on multi-Area work to the wiki.
 o Michelle Cotton to provide draft of -bis document for RFC
   4020 Allocation procedures.
 o Tim Polk to update the IESG statement on choosing between
   Informational and Experimental status.
 o Alexey Melnikov to draft an IESG Statement on MIME Type Registrations
   from other SDOs, to include a statement on the stability of
   references in Media Type Registrations.

NEW:
 o Robert Sparks to assist IANA in finding an expert for the RFC 5727
   registries [IANA #306256].
 o Jari Arkko and Ralph Droms to propose text to be sent to the ITU
   regarding appropriate naming in the ITU flowstatesig draft.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-mpls-fastreroute-mib-15
    Multiprotocol Label Switching (MPLS) Traffic Engineering Management
    Information Base for Fast Reroute (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 12
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stewart Bryant, David Harrington and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-sipcore-event-rate-control-05
    Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) Event Notification Extension for
    Notification Rate Control (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 12

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms, Lars Eggert, David Harrington and Alexey
Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-morg-list-specialuse-06
    IMAP LIST extension for special-use mailboxes (Proposed Standard) -
    3 of 12
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Alexey Melnikov. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-roll-trickle-06
    The Trickle Algorithm (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 12
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (January 6, 2011)
by Lars Eggert.

  o draft-ietf-tls-ssl2-must-not-03
    Prohibiting SSL Version 2.0 (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 12
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

Tim Polk and Sean Turner formally recused themselves from the
discussion.  The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor
Note to be prepared by Alexey Melnikov. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the
RFC Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-svc-24
    RTP Payload Format for Scalable Video Coding (Proposed Standard) - 6
    of 12
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stewart Bryant, Alexey Melnikov and Sean Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-xmpp-address-08
    Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (XMPP): Address Format
    (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 12
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

Peter Saint-Andre formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points
raised by Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-sieve-notify-presence-04
    Sieve Notification Using Presence Information (Proposed Standard) -
    8 of 12
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-mpls-ip-options-06
    Requirements for Label Edge Router Forwarding of IPv4 Option Packets
    (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 12
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by David Harrington.*

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-3177bis-end-sites-00
    IPv6 Address Assignment to End Sites (BCP) - 10 of 12
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Robert Sparks.*

  o draft-ietf-morg-fuzzy-search-03
    IMAP4 Extension for Fuzzy Search (Proposed Standard) - 11 of 12
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Alexey Melnikov. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-tcpm-tcp-timestamps-02
    Reducing the TIME-WAIT state using TCP timestamps (BCP) - 12 of 12
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk.*

2.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning Items
  o draft-cheshire-dnsext-dns-sd-07
    DNS-Based Service Discovery (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert, Adrian Farrel, David Harrington, Alexey
Melnikov, Peter Saint-Andre and Robert Sparks.*

  o draft-cheshire-dnsext-multicastdns-12
    Multicast DNS (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 2
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms on behalf of IANA and Adrian Farrel.*

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-ipfix-mediators-framework-09
    IPFIX Mediation: Framework (Informational) - 1 of 4
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes an
RFC Editor Note prepared by Dan Romascanu.

  o draft-ietf-opsec-protect-control-plane-06
    Protecting The Router Control Plane (Informational) - 2 of 4
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Ron Bonica. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-incremental-cgn-02
    An Incremental Carrier-Grade NAT (CGN) for IPv6 Transition
    (Informational) - 3 of 4
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Tim Polk and Sean Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-bmwg-reset-04
    Device Reset Characterization (Informational) - 4 of 4
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stewart Bryant and Adrian Farrel.*

3.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items
  o draft-linowski-netmod-yang-abstract-05
    Extending YANG with Language Abstractions (Experimental) - 1 of 2
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
individual submission Document Action Announcement that includes an RFC
Editor Note prepared by Dan Romascanu.

  o draft-arkko-ipv6-transition-guidelines-11
    Guidelines for Using IPv6 Transition Mechanisms during IPv6
    Deployment (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel and Tim Polk.*

3.2.2 Returning Items
  o draft-cheshire-dnsext-nbp-09
    Requirements for a Protocol to Replace AppleTalk NBP (Informational)
    - 1 of 1
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
individual submission Document Action Announcement.

3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.3.1 New Items
  o draft-saito-mmusic-sdp-ike-08
    Media Description for IKE in the Session Description Protocol (SDP)
    (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Robert Sparks

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes an IESG Note prepared by
Robert Sparks.

  o draft-templin-iron-13
    The Internet Routing Overlay Network (IRON) (Experimental) - 2 of 2
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko.*

3.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o Audio/Video Transport Payloads (payload) - 1 of 5
    Token: Robert Sparks

The IESG decided not to approve the draft WG charter for external review
at this time. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the
next IESG Teleconference (January 6, 2011).

  o Metric Blocks for use with RTCP's Extended Report Framework
    (xrblock) - 2 of 5
    Token: Robert Sparks

The IESG decided not to approve the draft WG charter for external review
at this time. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the
next IESG Teleconference (January 6, 2011).

  o Audio/Video Transport Core Maintenence (avtcore) - 3 of 5
    Token: Robert Sparks

The IESG decided not to approve the draft WG charter for external review
at this time. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the
next IESG Teleconference (January 6, 2011).

  o Audio/Video Transport Extensions (avtext) - 4 of 5
    Token: Robert Sparks

The IESG decided not to approve the draft WG charter for external review
at this time. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the
next IESG Teleconference (January 6, 2011).

  o ControLling mUltiple streams for TElepresence (clue) - 5 of 5
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The Secretariat
will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to
new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for
the next IESG Teleconference (January 6, 2011).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  o Transparent Interconnection of Lots of Links (trill) - 1 of 2
    Token: Ralph Droms

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group pending
edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Ralph Droms.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

  o Ad-Hoc Network Autoconfiguration (autoconf) - 2 of 2
    Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
   6.1 Registration of image/svg+xml media type (updated) (Alexey
       Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the registration
of the image/svg+xml media type.

   6.2 Expert for RFC 5727 Registries [IANA #306256] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Robert Sparks to assist IANA in finding an expert for the
RFC 5727 registries [IANA #306256].

   6.3 Expert for RFC-draft-levine-rfb Registries [IANA #413122]
       (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Tristan
Richardson (standards@realvnc.com) as the designated expert for draft-
levine-rfb.

   6.4 Registration of application/ttml+xml media type (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the registration
of the application/ttml+xml media type.

   6.5 ITU flowstatesig draft (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Jari Arkko and Ralph Droms to propose text to be sent to
the ITU regarding appropriate naming in the ITU flowstatesig draft.

   6.6 Request for early RFC number assignment (Tim Polk)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved the request for
early RFC number assignment for draft-mcgrew-fundamental-ecc.

   6.7  EC Meeting Summary (Sean Turner)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Working Group News

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* Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for
details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.