Minutes interim-2011-iesg-01 2011-01-06 16:30
minutes-interim-2011-iesg-01-201101061630-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the January 6, 2011 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Routing Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Adrian Farrel (Huawei) / Routing Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor liaison
David Harrington (HuaweiSymantec) / Transport Area
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Alexey Melnikov (Isode Limited) / Applications Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Tim Polk (NIST) / Security Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Peter Saint-Andre (Cisco) / Applications Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Hannes Tschofenig (Nokia Siemens Networks) / IAB Liaison
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Security Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS
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Gonzalo Camarillo / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Linda Dunbar / Scribe
Lars Eggert (Nokia) / Transport Area
Susan Hares / Scribe
Olaf Kolkman (NLnet Labs) / IAB Chair
Glenn Kowack / RFC Series Editor
Barry Leiba / Scribe
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the December 16, 2010 Teleconference were approved.  The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the December 16, 2010 Teleconferences was
approved.  The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the December 16, 2010 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
 o draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-15.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-mext-nemo-pd-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-mpls-ip-options-07.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-netconf-with-defaults-14.txt (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-sipcore-reinvite-08.txt (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
 o Robert Sparks to assist IANA in finding an expert for the RFC 5727
   registries [IANA #306256].

IN PROGRESS:
 o Jari Arkko to add guidance on multi-Area work to the wiki.
 o Michelle Cotton to provide draft of -bis document for RFC
   4020 Allocation procedures.
 o Tim Polk to update the IESG statement on choosing between
   Informational and Experimental status.
 o Alexey Melnikov to draft an IESG Statement on MIME Type Registrations
   from other SDOs, to include a statement on the stability of
   references in Media Type Registrations.
 o Jari Arkko and Ralph Droms to propose text to be sent to the ITU
   regarding appropriate naming in the ITU flowstatesig draft.

NEW:
 o Tim Polk to draft text for the wiki regarding Last Call processes
   that include IPR.

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-pkix-ocspagility-09
    OCSP Algorithm Agility (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 9
    Token: Tim Polk

Sean Turner formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised
by Jari Arkko and Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-20
    HTTP State Management Mechanism (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 9
    Token: Peter Saint-Andre

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alexey Melnikov, Tim Polk, Robert Sparks and Sean
Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-pim-group-rp-mapping-08
    PIM Group-to-RP Mapping (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 9
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Tim Polk, Dan Romascanu and Peter Saint-Andre.*

  o draft-ietf-roll-trickle-07
    The Trickle Algorithm (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 9
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stewart Bryant and Lars Eggert.*

  o draft-ietf-pwe3-oam-msg-map-14
    Pseudowire (PW) OAM Message Mapping (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 9
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (January 20, 2011)
by Tim Polk.

Action item: Tim Polk to draft text for the wiki regarding Last Call
processes that include IPR.

  o draft-ietf-avt-rtcp-port-for-ssm-04
    RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) Port for Source-Specific Multicast (SSM)
    Sessions (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 9
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-avt-rtp-cnames-03
    Guidelines for Choosing RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) Canonical Names
    (CNAMEs) (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 9
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stewart Bryant, Russ Housley, Peter Saint-Andre and
Sean Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-dnsext-5395bis-02
    Domain Name System (DNS) IANA Considerations (BCP) - 8 of 9
    Token: Ralph Droms

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel, David Harrington and Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-avt-srtp-big-aes-05
    The use of AES-192 and AES-256 in Secure RTP (Proposed Standard) - 9
    of 9
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley and Sean Turner.*

2.1.2 Returning Items
  o draft-ietf-mpls-ldp-upstream-09
    MPLS Upstream Label Assignment for LDP (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 1
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko.*

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
  o draft-cdmi-mediatypes-06
    Cloud Data Management Interface (CDMI) Media Types (Proposed
    Standard) - 1 of 3
    Token: Peter Saint-Andre

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Sean Turner.*

  o draft-melnikov-mailserver-uri-to-historic-00
    Moving mailserver: URI scheme to historic (Proposed Standard) - 2 of
    3
    Token: Peter Saint-Andre

Alexey Melnikov formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
individual submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an RFC
Editor Note prepared by Peter Saint-Andre.

  o draft-kucherawy-authres-vbr-02
    Authentication-Results Registration For Vouch By Reference Results
    (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 3
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to get enough
positions to approve the document.  The Secretariat will place the
document on the agenda for the next teleconference (January 20, 2011).

2.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-mpls-tp-oam-framework-10
    Operations, Administration and Maintenance Framework for MPLS- based
    Transport Networks (Informational) - 1 of 6
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Adrian Farrel. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

  o draft-ietf-sieve-autoreply-03
    Sieve Email Filtering: Use of Presence Information with Auto
    Responder functionality (Informational) - 2 of 6
    Token: Peter Saint-Andre

Alexey Melnikov formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Peter Saint-Andre. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-ecrit-lost-servicelistboundary-05
    LoST Service List Boundary Extension (Experimental) - 3 of 6
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement that includes an
RFC Editor Note prepared by Robert Sparks.

  o draft-ietf-ipfix-anon-05
    IP Flow Anonymisation Support (Experimental) - 4 of 6
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stewart Bryant and Sean Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-tunnel-security-concerns-04
    Security Concerns With IP Tunneling (Informational) - 5 of 6
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel.*

  o draft-ietf-v6ops-tunnel-loops-01
    Routing Loop Attack using IPv6 Automatic Tunnels: Problem Statement
    and Proposed Mitigations (Informational) - 6 of 6
    Token: Ron Bonica

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Stewart Bryant, Adrian Farrel and Russ Housley.*

3.1.2 Returning Items
  o draft-ietf-l2vpn-vpls-bridge-interop-06
    VPLS Interoperability with CE Bridges (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Document Action Announcement.

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items
  o draft-loreto-http-bidirectional-07
    Known Issues and Best Practices for the Use of Long Polling and
    Streaming in Bidirectional HTTP (Informational) - 1 of 4
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

Peter Saint-Andre formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an
individual submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-turner-md5-seccon-update-08
    Updated Security Considerations for the MD5 Message-Digest and the
    HMAC-MD5 Algorithms (Informational) - 2 of 4
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

Sean Turner formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Document Action Announcement that includes an RFC Editor Note
prepared by Alexey Melnikov.

  o draft-turner-md2-to-historic-10
    MD2 to Historic Status (Informational) - 3 of 4
    Token: Robert Sparks

Sean Turner formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-turner-md4-to-historic-10
    MD4 to Historic Status (Informational) - 4 of 4
    Token: Robert Sparks

Sean Turner formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Document Action Announcement that includes an RFC Editor Note
prepared by Robert Sparks.

3.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.3.1 New Items
  o draft-zorn-radius-keywrap-17
    Cisco Vendor Specific RADIUS Attributes for the Delivery of Keying
    Material (Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The document was deferred to the next teleconference (January 20, 2011)
by Russ Housley.

  o draft-irtf-mobopts-mpa-framework-08
    A Framework of Media-Independent Pre-Authentication (MPA) for Inter-
    domain Handover Optimization (Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG
that includes an IESG Note prepared by Jari Arkko.

3.3.2 Returning Items
  o draft-templin-iron-16
    The Internet Routing Overlay Network (IRON) (Experimental) - 1 of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document.  Jari
Arkko will prepare a "no problem" message and forward it to the
Secretariat to send to the IRSG.

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  o Audio/Video Transport Payloads (payload) - 1 of 4
    Token: Robert Sparks

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (January 20, 2011).

  o Metric Blocks for use with RTCP's Extended Report Framework
    (xrblock) - 2 of 4
    Token: Robert Sparks

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (January 20, 2011).

  o Audio/Video Transport Core Maintenence (avtcore) - 3 of 4
    Token: Robert Sparks

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (January 20, 2011).

  o Audio/Video Transport Extensions (avtext) - 4 of 4
    Token: Robert Sparks

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message
to new-work@ietf.org.  The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (January 20, 2011).

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  o ControLling mUltiple streams for tElepresence (clue) - 1 of 1
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
   6.1 IPFIX interoperability meeting in Prague (Dan Romascanu)

The management issue was discussed.

   6.2 WG and BoF Scheduling for IETF 80 (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.

   6.3 Expert reviewer for RFC5727 (Robert Sparks)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Adam Roach
(adam@nostrum.com) as the expert reviewer for RFC 5727.

7. Working Group News

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* Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for
details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.