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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the November 3, 2011, 2011 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Amanda Baber (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Ron Bonica (Juniper Networks) / Operations and Management Area
Stewart Bryant (Cisco) / Routing Area
Gonzalo Camarillo (Ericsson) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure
  Area
Ralph Droms (Cisco) / Internet Area
Wesley Eddy (MTI Systems) / Transport Area
Adrian Farrel (Juniper Networks) / Routing Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor liaison
David Harrington (HuaweiSymantec) / Transport Area
Joel Halpern (Ericsson) / IAB Liaison
Susan Hares / Scribe
Russ Housley (Vigil Security, LLC) / IETF Chair, General Area
John Leslie / Scribe
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Pete Resnick (Qualcomm)  / Applications Area
Dan Romascanu (Avaya) / Operations and Management Area
Peter Saint-Andre (Cisco) / Applications Area
Robert Sparks (Tekelec) / Real-time Applications and Infrastructure Area
Sean Turner (IECA, Inc.) / Security Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS
---------------------------------
Bernard Aboba (Microsoft) / IAB Chair
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA liaison
Barry Leiba / Scribe
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD

MINUTES
---------------------------------
1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the October 20, 2011 Teleconference were approved.  The
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes for the October 20, 2011 Teleconference were
approved.  The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public
archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the October 20, 2011 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
 o draft-salgueiro-mmusic-image-iana-registration-09.txt (Proposed
   Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
 o draft-ietf-genarea-milestones-tool-06.txt (Informational)
 o draft-ietf-pce-inter-layer-req-15.txt (Informational)
 o draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-03.txt (Informational)
 o draft-kivinen-ipsecme-secure-password-framework-03.txt
   (Informational)
 o draft-li-pwe3-ms-pw-pon-06.txt (Informational)
 o draft-zhang-ipsecme-anti-replay-07.txt (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
 o Russ Housley to update the IESG Statement on Designating RFCs as
   Historic.

IN PROGRESS:
 o Jari Arkko to add guidance on multi-Area work to the wiki.

NEW:
 o Russ Housley to propose text for an erratum to resolve the ambiguity
   in RFC 6410.
 o Pete Resnick to identify a designated expert for RFC 3798 [IANA
   #499647].
 o Pete Resnick to identify a designated expert for RFC 5797 [IANA
   #499641].
 o Robert Sparks to identify a replacement designated expert for RFC
   2506 [IANA #496739].

2. Protocol Actions
2.1 WG Submissions
2.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-mmusic-ice-tcp-15
    TCP Candidates with Interactive Connectivity Establishment (ICE)
    (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 14
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Stephen Farrell and Russ Housley.*

  o draft-ietf-fecframe-rtp-raptor-05
    RTP Payload Format for Raptor FEC (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 14
    Token: David Harrington

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell, Pete Resnick, Robert Sparks and Sean
Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-ospf-auth-trailer-ospfv3-09
    Supporting Authentication Trailer for OSPFv3 (Proposed Standard) - 3
    of 14
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley, Dan Romascanu and Sean Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-mip4-nemov4-dynamic-05
    Dynamic Prefix Allocation for NEMOv4 (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 14
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms.*

  o draft-ietf-pwe3-static-pw-status-09
    Pseudowire Status for Static Pseudowires (Proposed Standard) - 5 of
    14
    Token: Stewart Bryant

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel and Dan Romascanu.*

  o draft-ietf-payload-rfc3189bis-03
    RTP Payload Format for DV (IEC 61834) Video (Proposed Standard) - 6
    of 14
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document was approved by the IESG.  The Secretariat will send a
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-avtext-client-to-mixer-audio-level-05
    A Real-Time Transport Protocol (RTP) Header Extension for Client-to-
    Mixer Audio Level Indication (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 14
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Robert Sparks.*

  o draft-ietf-avtext-mixer-to-client-audio-level-05
    A Real-Time Transport Protocol (RTP) Header Extension for Mixer-to-
    Client Audio Level Indication (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 14
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Sean Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-vcarddav-kind-app-00
    vCard KIND:application (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 14
    Token: Pete Resnick

Peter Saint-Andre formally recused himself from the discussion.  The
document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an RFC
Editor Note prepared by Pete Resnick.

  o draft-ietf-vcarddav-birth-death-extensions-01
    vCard Format Extensions : place of birth, place and date of death
    (Proposed Standard) - 10 of 14
    Token: Peter Saint-Andre

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Sean Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-avtcore-srtp-vbr-audio-03
    Guidelines for the use of Variable Bit Rate Audio with Secure RTP
    (BCP) - 11 of 14
    Token: Robert Sparks

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell and Pete Resnick.*

  o draft-ietf-tls-dtls-heartbeat-03
    Transport Layer Security (TLS) and Datagram Transport Layer Security
    (DTLS) Heartbeat Extension (Proposed Standard) - 12 of 14
    Token: Sean Turner

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Adrian Farrel and Stephen Farrell.*

  o draft-ietf-ippm-metrictest-04
    IPPM standard advancement testing (Proposed Standard) - 13 of 14
    Token: Wesley Eddy

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley, Dan Romascanu and Sean Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc1948bis-01
    Defending Against Sequence Number Attacks (Proposed Standard) - 14
    of 14
    Token: Wesley Eddy

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Wesley Eddy. The Secretariat will send a working group
submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor
Note.

2.1.2 Returning Items
  NONE

2.2 Individual Submissions
2.2.1 New Items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3. Document Actions
3.1 WG Submissions
3.1.1 New Items
  o draft-ietf-rmt-simple-auth-for-alc-norm-05
    Simple Authentication Schemes for the ALC and NORM Protocols
    (Experimental) - 1 of 6
    Token: David Harrington

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms, Stephen Farrell, Pete Resnick and Sean
Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-mip4-nemo-haaro-06
    Home Agent assisted Route Optimization between Mobile IPv4 Networks
    (Experimental) - 2 of 6
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ralph Droms, Russ Housley and Russ Housley on behalf of
IANA.*

  o draft-ietf-fecframe-config-signaling-06
    Methods to convey FEC Framework Configuration Information
    (Experimental) - 3 of 6
    Token: David Harrington

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ron Bonica, Wesley Eddy, Pete Resnick, Robert Sparks
and Sean Turner.*

  o draft-ietf-pim-port-09
    A Reliable Transport Mechanism for PIM (Experimental) - 4 of 6
    Token: Adrian Farrel

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley.*

  o draft-ietf-drinks-usecases-requirements-06
    Data for Reachability of Inter/tra-NetworK SIP (DRINKS) Use cases
    and Protocol Requirements (Informational) - 5 of 6
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to
be prepared by Gonzalo Camarillo. The Secretariat will send a working
group submission Document Action Announcement that includes the RFC
Editor Note.

  o draft-ietf-cuss-sip-uui-reqs-07
    Problem Statement and Requirements for Transporting User to User
    Call Control Information in SIP (Informational) - 6 of 6
    Token: Gonzalo Camarillo

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Russ Housley and Robert Sparks.*

3.1.2 Returning Items
  o draft-ietf-savi-framework-05
    Source Address Validation Improvement Framework (Informational) - 1
    of 1
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell and Russ Housley.*

3.2 Individual Submissions Via AD
3.2.1 New Items
  o draft-salter-rfc5430bis-01
    Suite B Profile for Transport Layer Security (TLS) (Informational) -
    1 of 1
    Token: Sean Turner

Russ Housley formally recused himself from the discussion.  The document
was approved by the IESG pending an RFC Editor Note to be prepared by
Sean Turner. The Secretariat will send an individual submission Document
Action Announcement that includes the RFC Editor Note.

3.2.2 Returning Items
  NONE

3.3 IRTF and Independent Submission Stream Documents
3.3.1 New Items
  o draft-irtf-hip-experiment-14
    HIP Experiment Report (Informational) - 1 of 3
    Token: Ralph Droms

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document.  The
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that
includes an IESG Note prepared by Ralph Droms.

  o draft-irtf-hiprg-dht-04
    Host Identity Protocol Distributed Hash Table Interface
    (Experimental) - 2 of 3
    Token: Ralph Droms

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. Ralph
Droms will prepare a "no problem" message and forward it to the
Secretariat to send to the IRSG.

  o draft-cakulev-ibake-05
    IBAKE: Identity-Based Authenticated Key Exchange (Informational) - 3
    of 3
    Token: Sean Turner

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Adrian Farrel, Pete Resnick and Robert Sparks.*

3.3.2 Returning Items
  NONE

4. Working Group Actions
4.1 WG Creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF Review
  NONE

4.1.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

4.2 WG Rechartering
4.2.1 Under Evaluation for IETF Review
  o IP Flow Information Export (ipfix) - 1 of 1
    Token: Dan Romascanu

The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group.  The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement.

4.2.2 Proposed for Approval
  NONE

5. IAB News We Can Use

6. Management Issues
   6.1 RFC 6410 Clarification (Russ Housley)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Russ Housley to propose text for an erratum to resolve the
ambiguity in RFC 6410.

   6.2 Designated Expert for Timezone Database (Peter Saint-Andre)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Robert Elz
(kre@munnari.oz.au) as the Designated Expert for the Timezone Database.

   6.3 LISP Name (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed.  Following review of the thread on
the IETF Discussion list, the IESG concludes that there is no consensus
to change the name of the LISP working group.

   6.4 Designated Expert for RFC3798 (MDN - Message Disposition
       Notification) [IANA #499647] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item:  Pete Resnick to identify a designated expert for RFC 3798
[IANA #499647].

   6.5 Designated Expert for RFC5797 (FTP Commands and Extensions) [IANA
       #499641] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item:  Pete Resnick to identify a designated expert for RFC 5797
[IANA #499641].

   6.6 Replacement expert for RFC2506 (Media Feature Tags) [IANA
       #496739] (Michelle Cotton)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item:  Robert Sparks to identify a replacement designated expert
for RFC 2506 [IANA #496739].

   6.7 Designated Expert for WebSocket (Peter Saint-Andre)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved Alexey Melnikov
(alexey.melnikov@isode.com) as the designated expert for the WebSocket
Close Code Number Registry.

7. Working Group News

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* Please see the ID Tracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for
details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.