Minutes interim-2016-iesg-10 2016-06-02 14:00
minutes-interim-2016-iesg-10-201606021400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the June 2, 2016 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / IETF Chair, General Area
Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Spencer Dawkins / Transport Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area 
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Joel Jaeggli (Fastly) / Operations and Management Area 
Suresh Krishnan (Ericsson) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (EMC) / Security Area
Alvaro Retana (Cisco) / Routing Area
Andrew Sullivan (Dyn) / IAB Chair 
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS 
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Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe
Robert Sparks (Oracle) / IAB Liaison


OBSERVERS
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Donald Eastlake
Barry Leiba
Tim Schaub
Greg Wood


MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the May 19, 2016 Teleconference were approved.  The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the May 19, 2016 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the May 19, 2016 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-lager-specification-13  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-nfsv4-rfc3530-migration-update-08  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-teas-interconnected-te-info-exchange-07  (Best Current 
    Practice)
  o draft-ietf-cdni-control-triggers-15  (Proposed Standard)
    
1.2.2 Document Action
  o draft-alakuijala-brotli-11  (Informational)
  o draft-josefsson-scrypt-kdf-05  (Informational)

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:
  o Jari Arkko to draft IESG Statement on treatment of IPR declarations

NEW:
  o Ben Campbell and Stephen Farrell to write an email about relaxing 
    the Last Call requirements for normative downrefs.

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items 
  o draft-ietf-manet-rfc6779bis-06  - IETF stream
    Definition of Managed Objects for the Neighborhood Discovery
    Protocol (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 4
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Alvaro Retana confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-clue-data-model-schema-15  - IETF stream
    An XML Schema for the CLUE data model (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 4
    Token: Alissa Cooper

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alexey Melnikov and Kathleen Moriarty.*

  o draft-ietf-geojson-03  - IETF stream
    The GeoJSON Format (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 4
    Token: Alissa Cooper

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Alissa Cooper confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-mile-rfc5070-bis-22  - IETF stream
    The Incident Object Description Exchange Format v2 (Proposed
    Standard) - 4 of 4
    Token: Kathleen Moriarty

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper, Spencer Dawkins, and Alexey Melnikov.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items   
  o draft-hardie-rfc6455-iana-clarification-03  - IETF stream
    Clarifying registry procedures for the Websockets sub-protocol
    registry (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 2
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Alexey Melnikov. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-sheffer-rfc6982bis-03  - IETF stream
    Improving Awareness of Running Code: The Implementation Status
    Section (Best Current Practice) - 2 of 2
    Token: Stephen Farrell

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Stephen Farrell. The Secretariat will send an individual
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.2.2 Returning items    
  o draft-leiba-cotton-iana-5226bis-15  - IETF stream
    Guidelines for Writing an IANA Considerations Section in RFCs (Best
    Current Practice) - 1 of 1
    Token: Terry Manderson

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benoit Claise, Alissa Cooper,and Stephen Farrell.*

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items   
  o draft-ietf-dime-e2e-sec-req-04  - IETF stream
    Diameter AVP Level Security End-to-End Security: Scenarios and
    Requirements (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Stephen Farrell

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Stephen Farrell. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  o conflict-review-irtf-icnrg-videostreaming-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-icnrg-videostreaming
      draft-irtf-icnrg-videostreaming-08
      Adaptive Video Streaming over ICN (IRTF: Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The 
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that 
includes a conflict review response prepared by Spencer Dawkins.

3.4.3 For action
  o conflict-review-tcs-coap-no-response-option-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-tcs-coap-no-response-option
      draft-tcs-coap-no-response-option-17
      CoAP option for no server-response (ISE: Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document was assigned to Alexey Melnikov for RFC 5742 review.

  o conflict-review-jabley-dnssec-trust-anchor-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-jabley-dnssec-trust-anchor
      draft-jabley-dnssec-trust-anchor-14
      DNSSEC Trust Anchor Publication for the Root Zone (ISE:
    Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Jari Arkko

The document was assigned to Joel Jaeggli for RFC 5742 review.

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  o Babel routing protocol (babel) - 1 of 1
    Area: RTG (Alia Atlas)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to 
the text of the charter to be provided by Alia Atlas. The Secretariat 
will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to new-
work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the 
next IESG Teleconference (June 16, 2016).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
   6.1 Relax Last Call Requirement for Normative Downrefs (Ben Campbell)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Ben Campbell and Stephen Farrell to write an email about 
relaxing the Last Call requirements for normative downrefs.

   6.2 Finish reviewing IESG qualification for NomCom (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed. The management issue will be placed 
back on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (June 16, 2016).

   6.3 IETF 100 (Jari Arkko)

The management issue was discussed in an executive session.

7. Working Group news

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.