Minutes interim-2016-iesg-22 2016-10-13 14:00
minutes-interim-2016-iesg-22-201610131400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the October 13, 2016 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Jari Arkko (Ericsson) / IETF Chair, General Area
Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / Applications and Real-Time Area 
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Spencer Dawkins / Transport Area
Stephen Farrell (Trinity College Dublin) / Security Area 
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Joel Jaeggli (Fastly) / Operations and Management Area 
Suresh Krishnan (Ericsson) / Internet Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area
Stephanie McCammon (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Alexa Morris (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (EMC) / Security Area
Robert Sparks (Oracle) / IAB Liaison
Andrew Sullivan (Dyn) / IAB Chair 
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat

REGRETS 
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Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe
Alvaro Retana (Cisco) / Routing Area

GUEST
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Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IRTF Chair
Mehmet Ersue / document shepherd for draft-ietf-netconf-restconf


OBSERVERS
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Berenice Llive
Luigi
Greg Wood

MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the September 29, 2016 Teleconference were approved.  The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the September 29, 2016 Teleconference were 
approved.  The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public 
archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the September 29, 2016 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-pals-mc-pon-05  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Action
  NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Spencer Dawkins to organize a discussion about different meeting 
    formats for the Working Group Chairs Forum in Seoul.

  o Alissa Cooper to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-clue-data-
    model-schema-17 (CLUE) [IANA #927901].

  o Ben Campbell and Alexey Melnikov to find designated experts for RFC 
    6690 (CoRE Parameters) [IANA #928192].

  o Suresh Krishnan to find a designated expert for RFC 4944 [IANA 
    #929707].

UPDATED:

  o Alexey Melnikov to find a backup expert for Zach Shelby for the 
    other CoRE registries [IANA #928192].

IN PROGRESS:
  o Benoit Claise, Alvaro Retana, and Suresh Krishnan to propose charter 
    development recommendations.

  o Suresh Krishnan to find more scribes.

NEW:
  o Kathleen Moriarty to find a designated expert for RFC-ietf-mile-
    rfc5070-bis-26 (iodef2)[IANA #931571].

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc5405bis-18  - IETF stream
    UDP Usage Guidelines (Best Current Practice) - 1 of 8
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper.*

  o draft-ietf-ospf-two-part-metric-09  - IETF stream
    OSPF Two-part Metric (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 8
    Token: Alia Atlas

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Alia Atlas confirms that the announcement is ready to 
be sent.

  o draft-ietf-netconf-restconf-17  - IETF stream
    RESTCONF Protocol (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 8
    Token: Benoit Claise

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alexey Melnikov.*

  o draft-ietf-regext-epp-rdap-status-mapping-03  - IETF stream
    Extensible Provisioning Protocol (EPP) and Registration Data Access
    Protocol (RDAP) Status Mapping (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 8
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Alexey Melnikov. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-core-etch-03  - IETF stream
    Patch and Fetch Methods for Constrained Application Protocol (CoAP)
    (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 8
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper, Spencer Dawkins, and Kathleen Moriarty.*

  o draft-ietf-ipsecme-safecurves-05  - IETF stream
    Curve25519 and Curve448 for IKEv2 Key Agreement (Proposed Standard) 
    - 6 of 8
    Token: Kathleen Moriarty

The document was approved by the IESG. The Secretariat will send a 
working group submission Protocol Action Announcement that includes an 
IANA Note prepared by Kathleen Moriarty.

  o draft-ietf-avtcore-5761-update-05  - IETF stream
    RFC 5761 SDP Offer/Answer Clarifications (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 
    8
    Token: Ben Campbell

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Ben Campbell confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-webpush-protocol-11  - IETF stream
    Generic Event Delivery Using HTTP Push (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 8
    Token: Alissa Cooper

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Stephen Farrell and Alexey Melnikov.*

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items 
  o draft-ietf-core-http-mapping-15  - IETF stream
    Guidelines for HTTP-to-CoAP Mapping Implementations (Informational) 
    - 1 of 3
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Ben Campbell and Stephen Farrell.*

  o draft-ietf-lisp-crypto-09  - IETF stream
    LISP Data-Plane Confidentiality (Experimental) - 2 of 3
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Document Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-lisp-lcaf-17  - IETF stream
    LISP Canonical Address Format (LCAF) (Experimental) - 3 of 3
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Jari Arkko, Stephen Farrell, and Alexey Melnikov.*

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  o conflict-review-sarikaya-6man-sadr-overview-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-sarikaya-6man-sadr-overview
      draft-sarikaya-6man-sadr-overview-12
      Source Address Dependent Routing and Source Address Selection for
    IPv6 Hosts: Problem Space Overview (ISE: Informational) - 1 of 2
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document was removed from the agenda prior to the start of the 
teleconference.

  o conflict-review-irtf-cfrg-eddsa-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-irtf-cfrg-eddsa
      draft-irtf-cfrg-eddsa-08
      Edwards-curve Digital Signature Algorithm (EdDSA)  (IRTF:
    Informational) - 2 of 2
    Token: Stephen Farrell

The IESG has no problem with the IRTF publishing this document. The 
Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the IRSG that 
includes a conflict review response prepared by Stephen Farrell.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  o Security Events (secevent) - 1 of 2
    Area: SEC (Kathleen Moriarty)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda 
for the next IESG Teleconference (October 27, 2016).

  o L2VPN Service Model (l2sm) - 2 of 2
    Area: OPS (Benoit Claise)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending a final 
check to be completed by Benoit Claise. The Secretariat will send a WG 
Review announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The 
Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG 
Teleconference (October 27, 2016).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  o SIDR Operations (sidrops) - 1 of 3
    Area: OPS (Joel Jaeggli)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending the 
addition of chairs to be provided by Joel Jaeggli. The Secretariat will 
send a WG Action announcement. 

  o IP Wireless Access in Vehicular Environments (ipwave) - 2 of 3
    Area: INT (Suresh Krishnan)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending edits to 
the text of the charter to be prepared by Suresh Krishnan. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.

  o IPv6 over Low Power Wide-Area Networks (lpwan) - 3 of 3
    Area: INT (Suresh Krishnan)

The IESG approved the charter for the new working group. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement. 

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
6.1 [IANA #927901] Designated expert for RFC-ietf-clue-data-model-
    schema-17 (CLUE) (Alissa Cooper)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Roni Even 
<ron.even.tlv@gmail.com> and Simon Pietro Romano <​spromano@unina.it> as 
the designated experts for RFC-ietf-clue-data-model-schema.

6.2 [IANA #928192] Designated expert for RFC 6690 (CoRE Parameters) 
    (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Christian Groves 
<Christian.Groves@nteczone.com> as the primary designated expert for RFC 
6690 (CoRE Parameters), with Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> and Jaime 
Jimenez <jaime.jimenez@ericsson.com> as backup experts.

6.3 Normative references to ICANN PDP documents  (Alexey Melnikov)

The management issue was discussed. 

6.4 IETF 97 Conflict Resolution (Stephanie McCammon)

The management issue was discussed. 

6.5 [IANA #931571] Designated expert for RFC-ietf-mile-rfc5070-bis-26 
    (iodef2) (Amanda Baber / IANA)

The management issue was discussed. 

Action item: Kathleen Moriarty to find a designated expert for RFC-ietf-
mile-rfc5070-bis-26 (iodef2)[IANA #931571].

6.6 Convert Nov 3 to a formal telechat (Alissa Cooper)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG agreed to hold an 
additional formal telechat on November 3, 2016.

6.7 [IANA #929707] Designated expert for RFC 4944 (Suresh Krishnan)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Gabriel Montenegro 
<Gabriel.Montenegro@microsoft.com> as the designated expert for RFC 
4944.

6.8 Designated experts for the IANA registries in draft-ietf-6lo-paging-
    dispatch-05 (Suresh Krishnan)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved James Woodyatt 
<jhw@nestlabs.com> as the primary expert and Pascal Thubert (pthubert) 
<pthubert@cisco.com> as the secondary expert for the IANA registries in 
draft-ietf-6lo-paging-dispatch. 

7. Working Group news



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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.