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Date and time 2017-04-13 14:00
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INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the April 13, 2017 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES 
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Alia Atlas (Juniper) / Routing Area
Ignas Bagdonas / Scribe
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison 
Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Ben Campbell (Oracle) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Benoit Claise (Cisco) / Operations and Management Area
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Spencer Dawkins (Wonder Hamster Internetworking) / Transport Area
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison 
Ted Hardie (Google) / IAB Chair
Suresh Krishnan (Kaloom) / Internet Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (ETH Zurich) / Transport Area
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
John Leslie / Scribe 
Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat 
Kathleen Moriarty (Dell EMC) / Security Area
Eric Rescorla (Mozilla) / Security Area
Adam Roach (Mozilla) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alvaro Retana (Cisco) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Suzanne Woolf / IAB Liaison

REGRETS 
---------------------------------
Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor
Susan Hares / Scribe 
Terry Manderson (ICANN) / Internet Area
Ray Pelletier (ISOC) / IAD
Carlos Pignataro (Cisco) / Scribe

GUEST
--------------------------------- 
Paul Hoffman / Document shepherd for draft-mm-wg-effect-encrypt

OBSERVERS
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Michael Breuer
Nalini Elkins
Rob Hamilton
Bob Hinden
Bill Jouris
Denis Ovsienko
Ole Trøan

MINUTES 
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1. Administrivia 
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the March 16, 2017 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the March 16, 2017 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public 
archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the March 16, 2017 IESG Teleconference 
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
  o draft-ietf-oauth-amr-values-08  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-sidr-publication-12  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-manet-dlep-29  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-6tisch-minimal-21  (Best Current Practice)
  o draft-ietf-tictoc-ptp-mib-12  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-trill-rfc6439bis-05  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-l2tpext-keyed-ipv6-tunnel-07  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-mpls-residence-time-15  (Proposed Standard)
  o draft-ietf-6lo-6lobac-08  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Action
  NONE

1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  o Benoit Claise and Joel Jaeggli to find a designated expert for RFC 
    7854 [IANA #953567].

IN PROGRESS:
  NONE

NEW:
  o Alexey Melnikov to find a designated expert for RFC-ietf-urnbis-
    rfc2141bis-urn-22 Uniform Resource Names (URN) Namespaces [IANA 
    #957365].

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-ippm-6man-pdm-option-09  - IETF stream
    IPv6 Performance and Diagnostic Metrics (PDM) Destination Option
    (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 10
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Suresh Krishnan and Warren Kumari.*

  o draft-ietf-pals-status-reduction-04  - IETF stream
    MPLS LSP PW status refresh reduction for Static Pseudowires
    (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 10
    Token: Deborah Brungard

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alia Atlas.*

  o draft-ietf-dmm-lma-controlled-mag-params-04  - IETF stream
    LMA Controlled MAG Session Parameters (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 10
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Suresh Krishnan confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

  o draft-ietf-6man-rfc2460bis-09  - IETF stream
    Internet Protocol, Version 6 (IPv6) Specification (Internet
    Standard) - 4 of 10
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Mirja Kuehlewind, Kathleen Moriarty, Eric Rescorla, and 
Alvaro Retana.*

  o draft-ietf-dhc-relay-server-security-04  - IETF stream
    Security of Messages Exchanged Between Servers and Relay Agents
    (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 10
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Warren Kumari and Eric Rescorla.*

  o draft-ietf-ippm-twamp-time-format-06  - IETF stream
    Support of IEEE-1588 time stamp format in Two-Way Active Measurement
    Protocol (TWAMP) (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 10
    Token: Spencer Dawkins

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Spencer Dawkins. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-alto-multi-cost-08  - IETF stream
    Multi-Cost ALTO (Proposed Standard) - 7 of 10
    Token: Mirja Kuehlewind

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Eric Rescorla.*

  o draft-ietf-isis-mi-bis-02  - IETF stream
    IS-IS Multi-Instance (Proposed Standard) - 8 of 10
    Token: Alia Atlas

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Alia Atlas. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-httpbis-encryption-encoding-08  - IETF stream
    Encrypted Content-Encoding for HTTP (Proposed Standard) - 9 of 10
    Token: Alexey Melnikov

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Eric Rescorla.*

  o draft-ietf-isis-auto-conf-04  - IETF stream
    ISIS Auto-Configuration (Proposed Standard) - 10 of 10
    Token: Alia Atlas

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Alia Atlas. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  o status-change-icmpv6-dns-ipv6-to-internet-standard-01  - IETF stream
    Reclassifying ICMPv6 (RFC4443) and DNS Extensions for IPv6 (RFC3596)
    to Internet Standard - 1 of 1
    Token: Suresh Krishnan

IESG agreed to change the status of RFC 4443 and RFC 3596 from Draft 
Standard to Internet Standard pending a final check to be completed by 
Suresh Krishnan. The Secretariat will send a Protocol Action Announcement.

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-aqm-codel-07  - IETF stream
    Controlled Delay Active Queue Management (Experimental) - 1 of 1
    Token: Mirja Kuehlewind

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Mirja Kuehlewind confirms that the announcement is 
ready to be sent.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  o draft-mm-wg-effect-encrypt-11  - IETF stream
    Effect of Pervasive Encryption (Informational) - 1 of 1
    Token: Warren Kumari

Kathleen Moriarty formally recused herself from the discussion. The 
document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Alissa Cooper, Mirja Kuehlewind, Eric Rescorla, and 
Adam Roach.*

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  o DKIM Crypto Update (dcrup) - 1 of 1
    Area: ART (Alexey Melnikov)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to 
be made by Alexey Melnikov. The Secretariat will send a WG Review 
announcement, with a separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The 
Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda for the next IESG 
Teleconference (April 27, 2017).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  o NETCONF Data Modeling Language (netmod) - 1 of 2
    Area: OPS (Benoit Claise)

The IESG approved the updated charter for the working group pending 
edits to be provided by Benoit Claise. The Secretariat will send a WG 
Action: RECHARTER announcement.

  o Network Configuration (netconf) - 2 of 2
    Area: OPS (Benoit Claise)

The revised charter remains under discussion by the IESG in order to 
resolve points raised by Alia Atlas.* 

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues
   6.1 IESG Liaisons (IESG Secretary)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG made the following 
assignments during IETF 98:

  o IAB Liaison: Kathleen Moriarty
  o Tools Liaison: Alexey Melnikov
  o Nomcom Liaison: Alvaro Retana
  o EDU Directorate Liaison: Deborah Brungard
  o List admins: Terry Manderson, Suresh Krishnan, Benoit Claise

   6.2 Designated Expert for ETHER TYPES RFC 7042 (Benoit Claise)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Juan Carlos Zuniga 
<j.c.zuniga@ieee.org> as a new designated expert for ETHER TYPES RFC 
7042, replacing Dan Romascanu.

   6.3 Designated Experts for "BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP) 
       Parameters" (Warren Kumari)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved John G. Scudder 
<jgs@juniper.net>, Rex Fernando <rex@cisco.com>, and Stephen Stuart 
<sstuart@google.com> as the designated experts for RFC 7854 [IANA 
#953567].

   6.4 BGPsec modification after IESG Approval (Alvaro Retana)

The management issue was discussed. There were no objections to removing 
the normative reference to draft-ietf-idr-bgp-extended-messages in 
draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol.

   6.5 [IANA #957365] Designated expert for RFC-ietf-urnbis-rfc2141bis-
       urn-22 Uniform Resource Names (URN) Namespaces (Sabrina Tanamal / 
       IANA)

The management issue was discussed.

Action item: Alexey Melnikov to find a designated expert for RFC-ietf-
urnbis-rfc2141bis-urn-22 Uniform Resource Names (URN) Namespaces [IANA 
#957365].

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) 
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.