Minutes interim-2019-iesg-15 2019-07-11 14:00
minutes-interim-2019-iesg-15-201907111400-00
Meeting Minutes | Internet Engineering Steering Group (iesg) IETF | |
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Date and time | 2019-07-11 14:00 | |
Title | Minutes interim-2019-iesg-15 2019-07-11 14:00 | |
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minutes-interim-2019-iesg-15-201907111400-00
INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG) Minutes of the July 11, 2019 IESG Teleconference Reported by: Cindy Morgan, IETF Secretariat ATTENDEES --------------------------------- Ignas Bagdonas (Equinix) / Operations and Management Area Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison Ted Hardie (Google) / IAB Chair Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area Suresh Krishnan (Kaloom) / Internet Area Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / Transport Area Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area Alexey Melnikov / Applications and Real-Time Area Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Adam Roach (Mozilla) / Applications and Real-Time Area Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area REGRETS --------------------------------- Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area Heather Flanagan / RFC Series Editor Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area Portia Wenze-Danley (ISOC) / Interim LLC Executive Director OBSERVERS --------------------------------- Bob Hinden Greg Wood MINUTES --------------------------------- 1. Administrivia 1.1 Approval of the Minutes The minutes of the June 27, 2019 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The narrative minutes of the June 27, 2019 Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. The minutes of the June 11, 2019 IETF 105 BoF Coordination Teleconference were approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 1.2 Documents Approved since the June 27, 2019 IESG Teleconference 1.2.1 Protocol Actions NONE 1.2.2 Document Actions NONE 1.3 Review of Action Items DONE: o Roman Danyliw and Barry Leiba to draft a starting point for the discussion on setting expectations with the WG Chairs in reference to responses to inappropriate or unacceptable behaviors. o INT ADs to send a list of specific "hot topic" items that should be checked. The list to be provided for document authors. o SEC ADs to send a list of specific "hot topic" items that should be checked. The list to be provided for document authors. o Adam Roach to facilitate the discussion on WG Meeting Structure, related to alternate room layouts and the facilitation of discussion. o Warren Kumari to draft text for an example operational use case for target interoperability set, utilizing "stable" in the filename string, and will circulate the text with the IESG and IAB. o Magnus Westerlund to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-tram- stunbis [IANA #1146028]. IN PROGRESS: o Ignas Bagdonas to propose an additional question on YANG Model format validation for each of the styles of document write-ups. o Roman Danyliw to talk to the tools team to reset the counters on substate change for documents in AD Evaluation. o Roman Danyliw to draft text to be posted on ietf.org about reporting protocol vulnerabilities via an email alias and possible procedures on how to assign triage resources. o Suresh Krishnan to write a document on replacing the "updates" with new terminology (amends/amended by; extends/extended by; see also). o Martin Vigoureux to work with the IESG to create a list of possible IESG Tutorials and will prioritize them for scheduling on a series of Informal Telechats. o Eric Vyncke to write up draft text for the NomCom to help them understand the rules for the NomCom. o Suresh Krishnan to write up a NomCom Chair BCP (work with past chairs). o Roman Danyliw to shepherd the www.ietf.org analytics discussion with the community. o Alexey Melnikov to find designated experts for RFC-ietf-core-object- security [IANA #1141664]. o Alvaro Retana to finalize the proposal for relabeling the IETF Meeting Agenda Conflicts, and discuss the proposal with the WG Chairs. o Alexey Melnikov to find designated experts for RFC 8554 [IANA #1142796]. o Alexey Melnikov to find designated experts for RFC 8610 [IANA #1145107]. o Ignas Bagdonas to find designated experts for RFC 7317 [IANA #1146017]. o Adam Roach to collate the list of specific "hot topic" items from each Area that will be provided to document authors and post it on the wiki. NEW: NONE 2. Protocol actions 2.1 WG submissions 2.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra-22 - IETF stream Bootstrapping Remote Secure Key Infrastructures (BRSKI) (Proposed Standard) - 1 of 7 Token: Ignas Bagdonas Warren Kumari formally recused himself from the discussion. The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Alissa Cooper, Roman Danyliw, Benjamin Kaduk, Alexey Melnikov, Eric Vyncke and Magnus Westerlund.* o draft-ietf-mpls-egress-protection-framework-06 - IETF stream MPLS Egress Protection Framework (Proposed Standard) - 2 of 7 Token: Deborah Brungard The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw.* o draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-49 - IETF stream Basic Support for IPv6 over IEEE Std 802.11 Networks Operating Outside the Context of a Basic Service Set (IPv6-over-80211-OCB) (Proposed Standard) - 3 of 7 Token: Suresh Krishnan The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Alissa Cooper, Roman Danyliw, and Mirja Kuehlewind.* o draft-ietf-tram-turnbis-27 - IETF stream Traversal Using Relays around NAT (TURN): Relay Extensions to Session Traversal Utilities for NAT (STUN) (Proposed Standard) - 4 of 7 Token: Magnus Westerlund The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Roman Danyliw, Benjamin Kaduk, and Mirja Kuehlewind.* o draft-ietf-pce-association-group-09 - IETF stream PCEP Extensions for Establishing Relationships Between Sets of LSPs (Proposed Standard) - 5 of 7 Token: Deborah Brungard The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be completed by Deborah Brungard. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement. o draft-ietf-grow-bmp-adj-rib-out-06 - IETF stream Support for Adj-RIB-Out in BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP) (Proposed Standard) - 6 of 7 Token: Warren Kumari The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Barry Leiba.* o draft-ietf-iasa2-rfc7437bis-08 - IETF stream IAB, IESG, IETF Trust and IETF LLC Selection, Confirmation, and Recall Process: Operation of the IETF Nominating and Recall Committees (Best Current Practice) - 7 of 7 Token: Alissa Cooper The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action Announcement once Alissa Cooper confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. 2.1.2 Returning items NONE 2.2 Individual submissions 2.2.1 New items NONE 2.2.2 Returning items NONE 2.3 Status changes 2.3.1 New items NONE 2.3.2 Returning items NONE 3. Document actions 3.1 WG submissions 3.1.1 New items o draft-ietf-v6ops-nat64-deployment-07 - IETF stream Additional NAT64/464XLAT Deployment Guidelines in Operator and Enterprise Networks (Informational) - 1 of 1 Token: Warren Kumari The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action Announcement once Warren Kumari confirms that the announcement is ready to be sent. 3.1.2 Returning items NONE 3.2 Individual submissions via AD 3.2.1 New items NONE 3.2.2 Returning items NONE 3.3 Status changes 3.3.1 New items NONE 3.3.2 Returning items NONE 3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents 3.4.1 New items NONE 3.4.2 Returning items NONE 4. Working Group actions 4.1 WG creation 4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review NONE 4.1.2 Proposed for approval NONE 4.2 WG rechartering 4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review NONE 4.2.2 Proposed for approval NONE 5. IAB news we can use 6. Management issues 6.1 IESG Job Description that is provided to NomCom (Éric Vyncke) The management issue was discussed. 6.2 [IANA #1146028] Designated experts for RFC-ietf-tram-stunbis (Magnus Westerlund) The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Dan Wing <dwing@cisco.com> as the designated expert for RFC-ietf-tram-stunbis. 6.3 IESG agenda at IETF 105 (Alissa Cooper) The management issue was discussed. 7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.) 8. Tools Team Report -- 30 June 2019 1. Datatracker Projects - The plan was recently updated. -- https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/browser/trunk/PLAN -- The transition from Python 2 to Python 3 in under way. This increased priority because Python 2 is being officially deprecated; it will not receive maintenance after the end of 2019. - A contract for Meeting Application Improvements was awarded to IOLA. Work will begin shortly. - A contract for IRSG balloting was awarded to AKAYLA. Work began in June 2019. 2. Community & Other Projects - The Tools Team and the Secretariat worked out a plan for web site content involving static plaintext or PDF pages. For pages with content that changes infrequently (such as appeals, appeal responses, and implementation reports) the Secretariat will load the pages into Wagtail content management system and update their index pages manually. Agendas and Minutes for a body or committee will be captured in the Datatracker as meeting materials for that group. 3. RFC Services Projects - Support for the v3 schema has been enabled for I-D submission, and now the IESG needs to make a policy decision about when I-Ds in the new format can be submitted to the IESG for publication on the IETF stream. - The RFC Production Center continues to test the new format tools. - The Tools Team has a Statement of Work for the security of the tools used by the RFC Production Center. The new format tools will be reviewed once the tools related to the old format are put in mothballs. - A contract for rendering errata in a more useful was awarded to Soaring Hawk Consulting; code was delivered. The RFC Editor needs to figure out how it will be incorporated into rfc-editor.org. 4. Server Infrastructure - The custom DMARC-handling software was deployed for all mail lists in June 2018, but there is a desire to move away from the custom software to ARC. The ARC software cannot be configured to handle just a few of our mail lists. Requirements were provided to the ARC developers, but so far, they have not offered a release date. Alexey continues to try to get a response from the ARC developers, but so far we are only getting silence. This has not changed in many months; maybe we will be using our custom code forever. - The guides.ietf.org has been deployed in its own container, and operational support is now being handled by the Secretariat. This containerized deployment experiment was very successful.T 5. YANG Catalog - Operation of the yangcatalog.org was to transferred to the IETF Secretariat. This is also running in a container on a sandbox server. We expect deployment of the containerized version in a few weeks. 6. SustainIETF.org - This domain name will be transferred from ISOC to the IETF Trust. - It is not yet clear how this domain will be used going forward. ----------------------------------------------- * Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/) for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.