Minutes interim-2020-iesg-25 2020-11-05 15:00
minutes-interim-2020-iesg-25-202011051500-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the November 05, 2020 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Deborah Brungard (AT&T) / Routing Area
Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alissa Cooper (Cisco) / IETF Chair, General Area
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison
Wes Hardaker (USC/ISI) / IAB Liaison
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Loon LLC) / Internet Area
Magnus Westerlund (Ericsson) / Transport Area
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Barry Leiba (Futurewei Technologies) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director

OBSERVERS
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Adrian Farrel 
Olivier Gimenez
Mike McBride 
Rich Salz
Mohit Sethi
Barbara Stark
Greg Wood

MINUTES
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1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the October 22, 2020 Teleconference were approved. The 
Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the October 22, 2020 Teleconference were 
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

1.2 Documents Approved since the October 22, 2020 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
 o draft-ietf-nfsv4-rpc-tls-10  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-pce-pcep-flowspec-12  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-30  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-detnet-ip-over-mpls-09  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-detnet-mpls-13  (Proposed Standard)
 o draft-ietf-mpls-base-yang-17  (Proposed Standard)
    
1.2.2 Document Actions
 o draft-ietf-bfd-vxlan-16  (Informational)
    
1.3 Review of Action Items
DROPPED:
 o Warren Kumari to work on acknowledging shepherds, directorate 
   reviewers in a more standardized/formal way.

DONE:
 o Barry Leiba to draft a policy about when to create and announce 
   mailing lists for new potential Working Groups in order to 
   facilitate discussion of the Proposed WG charters.
 o Barry Leiba to write up a request for change in the Datatracker 
   behavior to automatically move a document to the state 
   IESG Evaluation when the document ballot is issued.
 o Roman Danyliw and Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for 
   RFC 8894 [IANA #1177950].
 o Murray Kucherawy to find designated experts for RFC 8876 [IANA 
   #1178766].
   
IN PROGRESS: 
 o Eric Vyncke to write up draft text on Special Interest 
    groups and send to the IESG for comment.
 o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at 
    updating the I-D Checklist.
 o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text on guidance 
    regarding the number of document authors on documents. 
 o Alvaro Retana, Rob Wilton, Alissa Cooper, and Martin Vigoureux to 
    draft text on the framework for a long-term future plan for the 
    IETF. 
 o Roman Danyliw to draft text for a request to the Tools Team to move 
    BoF requests from the BoF Wiki to the Datatracker. 
 o Alvaro Retana, Warren Kumari, and Barry Leiba to draft clarifying 
    text on Errata Best Practices.
 o Eric Vyncke to follow up on the suggestion at IETF 108 to share a 
    list of grammar checking tools with the community.
 o Martin Vigoureux and Alvaro Retana to work with Jay Daley on the 
    process for using EthicsPoint incident management software as 
    the mechanism of private feedback and anonymous reporting.
 o Erik Kline to find designated Experts for RFC  8915 [IANA #1179647].
 o Alvaro Retana to find designated experts for RFC 8919 [IANA 
    #1181014].
 o Roman Danyliw & Ben Kaduk to find secondary designated experts for 
    RFC 7107, RFC 7114, RFC 8411, and RFC 8696 [IANA #1181828].
  
NEW:
   NONE
    
2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-babel-source-specific-07  - IETF stream
    Source-Specific Routing in Babel (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Vigoureux
    
The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Martin Duke, Warren Kumari, Alvaro Retana, and Robert 
Wilton.*

  o draft-ietf-i2nsf-sdn-ipsec-flow-protection-12  - IETF stream
    Software-Defined Networking (SDN)-based IPsec Flow Protection
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk, Erik Kline, Magnus Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-dots-server-discovery-14  - IETF stream
    Distributed-Denial-of-Service Open Threat Signaling (DOTS) Agent
    Discovery (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk
    
The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Benjamin Kaduk. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-sfc-serviceid-header-12  - IETF stream
    Service Function Chaining: Subscriber and Performance Policy
    Identification Variable-Length Network Service Header (NSH) Context
    Headers (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Benjamin Kaduk, and Magnus Westerlund.*

  o draft-ietf-idr-flow-spec-v6-19  - IETF stream
    Dissemination of Flow Specification Rules for IPv6 (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Eric Vyncke.*

  o draft-ietf-lpwan-schc-over-lorawan-13  - IETF stream
    Static Context Header Compression (SCHC) over LoRaWAN (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Eric Vyncke

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Protocol Action 
Announcement once Eric Vyncke confirms that the announcement is ready to 
be sent.

2.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-babel-information-model-11  - IETF stream
    Babel Information Model (Informational)
    Token: Martin Vigoureux

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk.*

  o draft-ietf-acme-email-smime-10  - IETF stream
    Extensions to Automatic Certificate Management Environment for
    end-user S/MIME certificates (Informational)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Benjamin Kaduk and Barry Leiba.*

  o draft-ietf-suit-architecture-14  - IETF stream
    A Firmware Update Architecture for Internet of Things
    (Informational)
    Token: Roman Danyliw
    
The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action
Announcement once Roman Danyliw confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.
   
  o draft-ietf-emu-eaptlscert-06  - IETF stream
    Handling Large Certificates and Long Certificate Chains in
    TLS-based EAP Methods (Informational)
    Token: Roman Danyliw

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action
Announcement once Roman Danyliw confirms that the announcement is ready 
to be sent.
    
3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items

  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items

  o conflict-review-huitema-rfc-eval-project-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-huitema-rfc-eval-project
      draft-huitema-rfc-eval-project-07
      Evaluation of a Sample of RFC Produced in 2018 (ISE:
    Informational)
    Token: Alissa Cooper

The IESG has no problem with the RFC Editor publishing this document.
The Secretariat will send a standard "no problem" message to the RFC
Independent Submissions Editor that includes a conflict review response
prepared by Alissa Cooper.

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review

  o Open Specification for Pretty Good Privacy (openpgp)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to
the text of the charter to be provided by Benjamin Kaduk. The 
Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message 
to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference December 3, 2020.

4.1.2 Proposed for approval

  o Secure Media Frames (sframe)
  
The IESG approved the charter for the new working group pending
edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Murray Kucherawy.
The Secretariat will send a WG Action announcement.
 

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  NONE

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

5. IAB news we can use 

6. Management issues

6.1 [IANA #1181014] Designated experts for RFC 8919 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. An action item to find designated 
experts for RFC 8919 was assigned to Alvaro Retana prior to the start of 
the teleconference.

6.2 [IANA #1180363] renewing early allocations for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-
    local-rib (IANA)

The management issue was discussed.  The IESG approved renewing the 
early allocations for draft-ietf-grow-bmp-local-rib.

6.3 Proposed schedule for BOF approvals for IETF 110 (Alvaro Retana and 
    Alissa Cooper)

The management issue was discussed.  

6.4 [IANA #1181828] Secondary designated expert for RFC 7107, RFC 7114, 
    RFC 8411, and RFC 8696 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed.  An action item to find secondary 
designated experts for RFC 7107, RFC 7114, RFC 8411, and RFC 8696 was 
assigned to Roman Danyliw and Benjamin Kaduk prior to the start of the 
teleconference.

6.5 FTP Plan (Roman Danyliw)

The management issue was discussed.  

6.6 Designated experts for RFC 8894 [IANA #1177950] (Murray Kucherawy)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Peter Gutmann
(pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz) as designated expert for RFC 8894.

6.7 Designated experts for RFC 8876 [IANA #1178766] (Murray Kucherawy)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Brian Rosen
(br@brianrosen.net) as the designated expert for RFC 8876.
 
6.8 Executive Session: Emails on IETF List

The management issue was discussed in an executive session.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)


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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.