Minutes interim-2021-iesg-07 2021-03-25 14:00
minutes-interim-2021-iesg-07-202103251400-00

INTERNET ENGINEERING STEERING GROUP (IESG)
Minutes of the March 25, 2021 IESG Teleconference

Reported by: Jenny Bui, IETF Secretariat

ATTENDEES
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Jenny Bui (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Michelle Cotton (ICANN) / IANA Liaison
Roman Danyliw (CERT/SEI) / Security Area
Martin Duke (F5 Networks Inc) / Transport Area
Lars Eggert (NetApp) / IETF Chair, General Area
Liz Flynn (AMS) / IETF Secretariat, Narrative Scribe
Benjamin Kaduk (Akamai Technologies) / Security Area
Erik Kline (Google) / Internet Area
Martin Vigoureux (Nokia) / Routing Area
Murray Kucherawy (Facebook) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Mirja Kuehlewind (Ericsson) / IAB Chair
Warren Kumari (Google) / Operations and Management Area
Karen Moore (AMS) / RFC Production Center
Cindy Morgan (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Francesca Palombini (Ericsson) / Applications and Real-Time Area
Alvaro Retana (Futurewei Technologies) / Routing Area
Zaheduzzaman (Zahed) Sarker (Ericsson) / Transport Area
John Scudder (Juniper) / Routing Area
Amy Vezza (AMS) / IETF Secretariat
Eric Vyncke (Cisco) / Internet Area
Robert Wilton (Cisco Systems) / Operations and Management Area

REGRETS
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Ben Campbell (Independent Consultant) / IAB Liaison
Jay Daley / IETF Executive Director
Sandy Ginoza (AMS) / RFC Editor Liaison

OBSERVERS
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Dave Crocker
Jack Daniels 
Lucas Purdue 
Rene Struik
Greg Wood

1. Administrivia
1.1 Approval of the Minutes

The minutes of the February 18, 2021 and February 25, 2021 Teleconferences were approved.
The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives.

The narrative minutes of the February 18, 2021 and February 25, 2021 Teleconferences were
approved. The Secretariat will place the minutes in the public archives. 

1.2 Documents Approved since the February 25, 2021 IESG Teleconference
1.2.1 Protocol Actions
o draft-ietf-lpwan-coap-static-context-hc-19  (Proposed Standard) 
o draft-ietf-core-resource-directory-28  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-mpls-rfc6374-sfl-10  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-for-pce-controller-14  (Proposed 
  Standard)
o draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-registries-update-11  (Proposed Standard)
o draft-ietf-calext-valarm-extensions-07  (Proposed Standard)

1.2.2 Document Actions
o draft-ietf-dprive-rfc7626-bis-09  (Informational)
o draft-ietf-detnet-security-16  (Informational)
o draft-ietf-cellar-ffv1-20  (Informational)
 
1.3 Review of Action Items

DONE:
  NONE

IN PROGRESS:    
  o Alvaro Retana, Benjamin Kaduk, and Murray Kucherawy to look at 
    updating the I-D Checklist.
  o Alvaro Retana and Martin Vigoureux to draft text on guidance 
    regarding the number of document authors on documents. 
  o Warren Kumari, Deborah Brungard, Stephen Farrell, and Jay Daley to 
    investigate ways to recruit, recognize, and retain volunteers in the 
    IETF.
  o Benjamin Kaduk to find designated experts for RFC 8935 [IANA 
    #1184035].
  o Eric Vyncke to draft text for the WG Chairs about requesting early 
    review of documents by existing Directorates.
  o Alvaro Retana, Rob Wilton, and Martin Vigoureux to draft text on the 
    framework for a long-term future plan for the IETF.
  o Murray Kucherawy to find additional designated experts for RFC 8855. 

NEW:
  o Lars Eggert to draft an email to the community announcing that use 
    of the last-call email list is no longer an experiment, and will be 
    the way IETF Last calls are run going forward.

2. Protocol actions
2.1 WG submissions
2.1.1 New items
  o draft-ietf-ace-oauth-authz-38  - IETF stream
    Authentication and Authorization for Constrained Environments (ACE)
    using the OAuth 2.0 Framework (ACE-OAuth) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Francesca Palombini.*

  o draft-ietf-ace-oauth-params-13  - IETF stream
    Additional OAuth Parameters for Authorization in Constrained
    Environments (ACE) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Benjamin Kaduk. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

  o draft-ietf-ace-oscore-profile-17  - IETF stream
    OSCORE Profile of the Authentication and Authorization for
    Constrained Environments Framework (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

  o draft-ietf-ace-dtls-authorize-16  - IETF stream
    Datagram Transport Layer Security (DTLS) Profile for Authentication
    and Authorization for Constrained Environments (ACE) (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw.*

  o draft-ietf-tls-dtls13-41  - IETF stream
    The Datagram Transport Layer Security (DTLS) Protocol Version 1.3
    (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Benjamin Kaduk

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Martin Duke.*

  o draft-ietf-ippm-ioam-data-12  - IETF stream
    Data Fields for In-situ OAM (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Martin Duke

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Roman Danyliw, Lars Eggert, Benjamin Kaduk, Murray 
Kucherawy, and Francesca Palombini.*

  o draft-ietf-idr-bgp-ls-registry-04  - IETF stream
    Updates to the Allocation Policy for the Border Gateway Protocol -
    Link State (BGP-LS) Parameters Registries (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Alvaro Retana

The document remains under discussion by the IESG in order to resolve
points raised by Lars Eggert.*

  o draft-ietf-ecrit-location-profile-registry-policy-01  - IETF stream
    Changing the LoST Location Profile Registry Policy (Proposed
    Standard)
    Token: Murray Kucherawy

The document was approved by the IESG pending a final check to be 
completed by Murray Kucherawy. The Secretariat will send a working group 
submission Protocol Action Announcement.

2.1.2 Returning items
  o draft-ietf-hip-dex-24  - IETF stream
    HIP Diet EXchange (DEX) (Proposed Standard)
    Token: Éric Vyncke

The document will be returned to the Working Group and moved into state
"AD is watching."

2.2 Individual submissions
2.2.1 New items
  NONE

2.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

2.3 Status changes
2.3.1 New items
  NONE

2.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3. Document actions
3.1 WG submissions
3.1.1 New items  
  o draft-ietf-tcpm-2140bis-10  - IETF stream
    TCP Control Block Interdependence (Informational)
    Token: Martin Duke

The document was approved by the IESG pending a new revision. The 
Secretariat will send a working group submission Document Action 
Announcement once Martin Duke confirms that the announcement is ready
to be sent.

3.1.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.2 Individual submissions via AD
3.2.1 New items
  NONE

3.2.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.3 Status changes
3.3.1 New items
  NONE

3.3.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4 IRTF and Independent Submission stream documents
3.4.1 New items
  NONE

3.4.2 Returning items
  NONE

3.4.3 For action
  o conflict-review-crocker-email-author-00
    IETF conflict review for draft-crocker-email-author
    draft-crocker-email-author-04
    Email Author Header Field (ISE: Experimental)
    Token: Lars Eggert

The document was assigned to Murray Kucherawy for RFC 5742 review.

4. Working Group actions
4.1 WG creation
4.1.1 Proposed for IETF review
  o Effective Terminology in IETF Documents (term)
    Area: GEN (Lars Eggert)

The IESG approved the draft WG charter for IETF review pending edits to
the text of the charter to be provided by Lars Eggert. The Secretariat 
will send a WG Review announcement, with a separate message to
new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG on the agenda
for the next IESG Teleconference (April 08, 2021).

4.1.2 Proposed for approval
  NONE

4.2 WG rechartering
4.2.1 Under evaluation for IETF review
  o CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (cose)
    Area: SEC (Benjamin Kaduk)

The IESG decided to proceed with IETF review of the revised charter 
pending edits to the text of the charter to be provided by Benjamin 
Kaduk. The Secretariat will send a WG Review announcement, with a 
separate message to new-work@ietf.org. The Secretariat will place the WG 
on the agenda for the next IESG Teleconference (April 08, 2021).

4.2.2 Proposed for approval
  o QUIC (quic)
    Area: TSV (Zaheduzzaman Sarker)

The IESG approved the revised charter for the working group. The
Secretariat will send a WG Action: RECHARTER announcement. 

5. IAB news we can use

6. Management issues

6.1 Designated Experts for QUIC Registries (Zaheduzzaman Sarker)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved Ian Swett 
(ianswett@google.com), Martin Thomson (mt@lowentropy.net), and Jana 
Iyengar (jri.ietf@gmail.com) as the designated experts for QUIC 
Registries.

6.2 [IANA #1191310] renewing early allocation for RFC 8111 (IANA)

The management issue was discussed. The IESG approved renewing the early 
allocations for RFC 8111.

6.3 Guidance on the Number of Document Authors (Alvaro Retana)

Discussion of this management issue was deferred to the informal IESG 
teleconference on April 1, 2021.

6.4 Discussion regarding IESG chat tool (Lars Eggert)

The management issue was discussed.

6.5 Executive Session: Confirmation of ISOC Board of Trustees Candidates

The management issue was discussed in an executive session. The IESG 
confirmed the candidates for the ISOC Board of Trustees that were 
selected by the IAB.

6.6 Last Call Email List (Eric Vyncke)

The management issue was discussed.

6.7 References Behind Paywalls (Eric Vyncke)

The management issue was discussed.

7. Any Other Business (WG News, New Proposals, etc.)

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* Please see the Datatracker (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/)
for details on documents that are under discussion by the IESG.