From nobody Thu Mar 6 10:49:34 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766AB1A0084 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2014 10:48:11 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IGxsG478ADdT for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2014 10:48:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2D51A0135 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2014 10:48:09 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: avtext@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.1.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140306184809.7983.64547.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2014 10:48:09 -0800 From: IETF Secretariat Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/avtext/_Uxkx3QbEbxgnIHX_yOf1-6MBi8 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 06 Mar 2014 10:49:33 -0800 Subject: [avtext] Milestones changed for avtext WG X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2014 18:48:11 -0000 Changed milestone "Submit Support for multiple clock rates in an RTP session for Proposed Standard", resolved as "Done". Changed milestone "Request Publication of specification for duplicating RTP Streams with intended status as Proposed Standard", resolved as "Done". URL: http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/avtext/charter/ From nobody Fri Mar 7 04:34:56 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E9CA1A0205 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2014 04:34:54 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BZmIc9cpjI3n for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2014 04:34:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from server209.appriver.com (server209g.appriver.com [8.31.233.122]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51041A01E0 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2014 04:34:51 -0800 (PST) X-Note-AR-ScanTimeLocal: 3/7/2014 7:34:47 AM X-Policy: GLOBAL - vidyo.com X-Primary: jonathan@vidyo.com X-Note: This Email was scanned by AppRiver SecureTide X-Virus-Scan: V- X-Note-SnifferID: 0 X-Note: TCH-CT/SI:0-100/SG:5 3/7/2014 7:34:43 AM X-GBUdb-Analysis: 0, 162.209.16.213, Ugly c=0.892513 p=-0.986142 Source White X-Signature-Violations: 0-0-0-8812-c X-Note-419: 15.6003 ms. Fail:0 Chk:1345 of 1345 total X-Note: SCH-CT/SI:0-1345/SG:1 3/7/2014 7:34:47 AM X-Note: Spam Tests Failed: X-Country-Path: ->UNITED STATES->LOCAL X-Note-Sending-IP: 162.209.16.213 X-Note-Reverse-DNS: mail1.vidyo.com X-Note-Return-Path: jonathan@vidyo.com X-Note: User Rule Hits: X-Note: Global Rule Hits: G327 G328 G329 G330 G334 G335 G445 X-Note: Encrypt Rule Hits: X-Note: Mail Class: VALID X-Note: Headers Injected Received: from [162.209.16.213] (HELO mail.vidyo.com) by server209.appriver.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTPS id 78141307 for avtext@ietf.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2014 07:34:47 -0500 Received: from 492133-EXCH2.vidyo.com ([fe80::50:56ff:fe85:6b62]) by 492132-EXCH1.vidyo.com ([fe80::50:56ff:fe85:4f77%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0146.000; Fri, 7 Mar 2014 06:34:46 -0600 From: Jonathan Lennox To: "avtext@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Call for interest in RTP/RTCP Splicing Notification Thread-Index: AQHPOgGfb4httBjOhkCk5AT05T0Dkw== Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2014 12:34:45 +0000 Message-ID: <1DDCD9E8-FC0F-4DE3-96E0-C415B2D92BB2@vidyo.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [31.133.187.226] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_1DDCD9E8FC0F4DE396E0C415B2D92BB2vidyocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/avtext/MXz4tH91e-VS9PXa46UKwB51JIs Subject: [avtext] Call for interest in RTP/RTCP Splicing Notification X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2014 12:34:54 -0000 --_000_1DDCD9E8FC0F4DE396E0C415B2D92BB2vidyocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, all =97 As was discussed in the AVTExt session on Thursday, we are trying to determ= ine the level of interest in the RTCP Splicing Notification work, to determ= ine whether it should become an AVTExt working group item. Our concern is that the group=92s usual attendees (especially at the in-per= son meetings) don=92t have much overlap with this work=92s constituency, an= d we don=92t have much visibility into the community that would implement o= r deploy this mechanism. Thus, we are making the following request: if you, or your company or organ= ization, would be interested in this work =97 specifically, a standardized = RTP/RTCP-level indication of the time when content splicing should occur in= a stream of multimedia content =97 please let us know by e-mail on the IET= F AVTExt mailing list (avtext@ietf.org) by Friday, = March 21st (two weeks from today). Please indicate whether: you would implement the mechanism; you would deplo= y this mechanism; and/or whether you would be able to help by reviewing and= commenting on proposed solutions. Conversely, of course, if you think the AVTExt group should *not* work on a= solution for splicing notification at this time, please let us know that a= s well. It is known that there are existing proprietary mechanisms to solve this pr= oblem at other levels, notably ones based on information carried in MPEG 2 = Transport Streams. Since, as I said, this group doesn=92t have much visibility into the commun= ities that would make use of this work, please feel free to forward this re= quest anyplace you feel would be relevant. Thank you! Jonathan Lennox AVTExt Working Group Chair --_000_1DDCD9E8FC0F4DE396E0C415B2D92BB2vidyocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <7A8668D000EA1E44962E166D22D7BFA7@vidyo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, all =97

As was discussed in the AVTExt session on Thursday, we are trying to d= etermine the level of interest in the RTCP Splicing Notification work, to d= etermine whether it should become an AVTExt working group item.

Our concern is that the group=92s usual attendees (especially at the i= n-person meetings) don=92t have much overlap with this work=92s constituenc= y, and we don=92t have much visibility into the community that would implem= ent or deploy this mechanism.

Thus, we are making the following request: if you, or your company or = organization, would be interested in this work =97 specifically, a standard= ized RTP/RTCP-level indication of the time when content splicing should occ= ur in a stream of multimedia content =97 please let us know by e-mail on the IETF AVTExt mailing list (<= a href=3D"mailto:avtext@ietf.org">avtext@ietf.org) by Friday, March 21st (two weeks from today).

Please indicate whether: you would implement the mechanism; you would = deploy this mechanism; and/or whether you would be able to help by reviewin= g and commenting on proposed solutions.

Conversely, of course, if you think the AVTExt group should *not* work= on a solution for splicing notification at this time, please let us know t= hat as well.

It is known that there are existing proprietary mechanisms to solve th= is problem at other levels, notably ones based on information carried in MP= EG 2 Transport Streams.

Since, as I said, this group doesn=92t have much visibility into the c= ommunities that would make use of this work, please feel free to forward th= is request anyplace you feel would be relevant.

Thank you!

Jonathan Lennox
AVTExt Working Group Chair

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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00DF_01CF4358.78400BC0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AQHPOgGfb4httBjOhkCk5AT05T0Dk5rntIRQgAABXcA= Content-Language: zh-cn X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2014 01:48:50.0560 (UTC) FILETIME=[6045E000:01CF4315] Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/avtext/kYUj-AKmd26rk4ZVohg5WpYxtmM Subject: Re: [avtext] Call for interest in RTP/RTCP Splicing Notification X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 01:49:00 -0000 ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01CF4358.78400BC0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_00E0_01CF4358.78400BC0" ------=_NextPart_001_00E0_01CF4358.78400BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, =20 I have read the draft and think it is interesting and ready for = adoption. I would be happy to review it. =20 Best Regards Qiao Fu =20 =20 =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: =B5=CB=C1=E9=C0=F2/Lingli Deng = [mailto:denglingli@chinamobile.com]=20 =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2014=C4=EA3=D4=C219=C8=D5 9:41 =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: 'fuqiao' =D6=F7=CC=E2: =D7=AA=B7=A2: [avtext] Call for interest in RTP/RTCP = Splicing Notification =20 =20 =20 =B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: avtext [mailto:avtext-bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED = Jonathan Lennox =B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2014=C4=EA3=D4=C27=C8=D5 20:35 =CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: avtext@ietf.org =D6=F7=CC=E2: [avtext] Call for interest in RTP/RTCP Splicing = Notification =20 Hello, all =A1=AA=20 =20 As was discussed in the AVTExt session on Thursday, we are trying to determine the level of interest in the RTCP Splicing Notification work, = to determine whether it should become an AVTExt working group item. =20 Our concern is that the group=A1=AFs usual attendees (especially at the in-person meetings) don=A1=AFt have much overlap with this work=A1=AFs = constituency, and we don=A1=AFt have much visibility into the community that would = implement or deploy this mechanism. =20 Thus, we are making the following request: if you, or your company or organization, would be interested in this work =A1=AA specifically, a standardized RTP/RTCP-level indication of the time when content splicing should occur in a stream of multimedia content =A1=AA please let us know = by e-mail on the IETF AVTExt mailing list (avtext@ietf.org) by Friday, = March 21st (two weeks from today). =20 Please indicate whether: you would implement the mechanism; you would = deploy this mechanism; and/or whether you would be able to help by reviewing = and commenting on proposed solutions. =20 Conversely, of course, if you think the AVTExt group should *not* work = on a solution for splicing notification at this time, please let us know that = as well. =20 It is known that there are existing proprietary mechanisms to solve this problem at other levels, notably ones based on information carried in = MPEG 2 Transport Streams. =20 Since, as I said, this group doesn=A1=AFt have much visibility into the communities that would make use of this work, please feel free to = forward this request anyplace you feel would be relevant. =20 Thank you! =20 Jonathan Lennox AVTExt Working Group Chair =20 ------=_NextPart_001_00E0_01CF4358.78400BC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

I have read the draft and think it is interesting and = ready for adoption. I would be happy to review it.

 

Best Regards

Qiao Fu

 

 

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: =B5=CB=C1=E9=C0=F2/Lingli Deng [mailto:denglingli@chinamobile.com]
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2014=C4=EA3=D4=C219=C8=D5 9:41
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: 'fuqiao'
=D6=F7=CC=E2: = =D7=AA=B7=A2: [avtext] Call for interest in RTP/RTCP Splicing = Notification

 

 

 

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: avtext [mailto:avtext-bounces@ietf.org] = =B4=FA=B1=ED = Jonathan Lennox
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC= =E4: = 2014=C4=EA3=D4=C27=C8=D5 20:35
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=D6=F7=CC=E2: = [avtext] Call for interest in RTP/RTCP Splicing Notification

 

Hello, all =A1=AA =

 

As was discussed in the AVTExt = session on Thursday, we are trying to determine the level of interest in the RTCP = Splicing Notification work, to determine whether it should become an AVTExt = working group item.

 

Our concern is that the = group=A1=AFs usual attendees (especially at the in-person meetings) don=A1=AFt have much = overlap with this work=A1=AFs constituency, and we don=A1=AFt have much visibility = into the community that would implement or deploy this mechanism.

 

Thus, we are making the = following request: if you, or your company or organization, would be interested in this = work =A1=AA specifically, a standardized RTP/RTCP-level indication of the time when = content splicing should occur in a stream of multimedia content =A1=AA please = let us know by e-mail on the IETF AVTExt mailing list (avtext@ietf.org) by Friday, March 21st (two weeks from = today).

 

Please indicate whether: you = would implement the mechanism; you would deploy this mechanism; and/or whether = you would be able to help by reviewing and commenting on proposed = solutions.

 

Conversely, of course, if you = think the AVTExt group should *not* work on a solution for splicing notification = at this time, please let us know that as well.

 

It is known that there are = existing proprietary mechanisms to solve this problem at other levels, notably = ones based on information carried in MPEG 2 Transport = Streams.

 

Since, as I said, this group = doesn=A1=AFt have much visibility into the communities that would make use of this work, = please feel free to forward this request anyplace you feel would be = relevant.

 

Thank you!

 

Jonathan = Lennox

AVTExt Working Group = Chair

 

------=_NextPart_001_00E0_01CF4358.78400BC0-- ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01CF4358.78400BC0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="ATT00073.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ATT00073.txt" _______________________________________________ avtext mailing list avtext@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avtext ------=_NextPart_000_00DF_01CF4358.78400BC0-- From nobody Wed Mar 19 15:22:11 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E86F81A0425 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:16:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NlVhwQd4yIkK for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A631A0809 for ; Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:16:10 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: avtext@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.1.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140319221610.30306.58068.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:16:10 -0700 From: IETF Secretariat Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/avtext/Dz5Hl0G3oAKuTdzP0pOoObd-N4c X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 15:22:09 -0700 Subject: [avtext] Milestones changed for avtext WG X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 22:16:18 -0000 URL: http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/avtext/charter/ From nobody Thu Mar 20 02:25:34 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0A741A035B for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 02:25:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -99.159 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-99.159 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_JP=1.244, HOST_EQ_JP=1.265, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.547, SPF_NEUTRAL=0.779, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2O4mRCI655F3 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 02:25:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (ns.sfc.wide.ad.jp [IPv6:2001:200:0:8803:203:178:142:143]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E88A1A03A7 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 02:25:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [133.69.35.12]) by mail.sfc.wide.ad.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C1830278215 for ; Thu, 20 Mar 2014 18:25:20 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 18:25:20 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20140320.182520.113294505.asaeda@sfc.wide.ad.jp> To: avtext@ietf.org From: Hitoshi Asaeda X-Mailer: Mew version 6.3 on Emacs 22.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/avtext/fYnC_RNdMg9bN_7nyHbebYq2IvY Subject: Re: [avtext] Call for interest in RTP/RTCP Splicing Notification X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2014 09:25:33 -0000 Hi, > As was discussed in the AVTExt session on Thursday, we are trying to determine the level of interest in the RTCP Splicing Notification work, to determine whether it should become an AVTExt working group item. > > Our concern is that the group's usual attendees (especially at the in-person meetings) don't have much overlap with this work's constituency, and we don't have much visibility into the community that would implement or deploy this mechanism. > > Thus, we are making the following request: if you, or your company or organization, would be interested in this work - specifically, a standardized RTP/RTCP-level indication of the time when content splicing should occur in a stream of multimedia content - please let us know by e-mail on the IETF AVTExt mailing list (avtext@ietf.org) by Friday, March 21st (two weeks from today). > > Please indicate whether: you would implement the mechanism; you would deploy this mechanism; and/or whether you would be able to help by reviewing and commenting on proposed solutions. I think this work is interesting and can be continued as a wg item. I'm not from a vendor, but I can support this work. 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FYI

 

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8= =CB: Wei Li [mailto:lwei@ixiacom.com]
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2014=C4=EA3=D4=C220=C8=D5 2= 0:04
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: avtext-bounces@ietf.org; Xiajinwei
=D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: [avtext] Call for interest in RTP/RTCP Splicing Notification

 

Interesting work! It seems to be easier to get such infor= mation on transport layer if the splicing information is decoupled from the= MPEG-TS layer. So personally I would like to support the draft as well as help to reveiw / te= st the mechanism if it coud be adopted.

 

Wei li

 

 

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: avtext [mailto:avtext-bounces@i= etf.org] =B4=FA= =B1=ED Jonathan Lennox
=B7=A2= =CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4: 2014=C4= =EA3=D4=C27=C8=D5 20:35
=CA=D5= =BC=FE=C8=CB: avtext@ietf.org
=D6=F7= =CC=E2: [avtext] Call for interest in RTP/RTCP Splicing Notification

Hello, all =A1=AA

As was discussed in the AVTExt session on Thursday, we are try= ing to determine the level of interest in the RTCP Splicing Notification wo= rk, to determine whether it should become an AVTExt working group item.

Our concern is that the group's usual attendees (especially at= the in-person meetings) don't have much overlap with this work's constitue= ncy, and we don't have much visibility into the community that would implement or deploy thi= s mechanism.

Thus, we are making the following request: if you, or your com= pany or organization, would be interested in this work =A1=AA specifically,= a standardized RTP/RTCP-level indication of the time when content splicing should occur in a stream of m= ultimedia content =A1=AA please let us know by e-mail on the IETF AVTExt mailing list (= avtext@ietf.org) by Friday, March 21st (two weeks from today).

Please indicate whether: you would implement the mechanism; yo= u would deploy this mechanism; and/or whether you would be able to help by = reviewing and commenting on proposed solutions.

Conversely, of course, if you think the AVTExt group should *n= ot* work on a solution for splicing notification at this time, please let u= s know that as well.

It is known that there are existing proprietary mechanisms to = solve this problem at other levels, notably ones based on information carri= ed in MPEG 2 Transport Streams.

Since, as I said, this group doesn't have much visibility into= the communities that would make use of this work, please feel free to forw= ard this request anyplace you feel would be relevant.

Thank you!

Jonathan Lennox
AVTExt Working Group Chair

--_000_A8219E7785257C47B75B6DCE682F8D2F9006770Cnkgeml501mbschi_-- From nobody Fri Mar 28 07:29:38 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF8661A092F for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 07:29:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.851 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.851 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HELO_EQ_SE=0.35, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xGp1avC1qIHg for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 07:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailgw1.ericsson.se (mailgw1.ericsson.se [193.180.251.45]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A781A0932 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 07:29:33 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb2d-b7f5d8e000002a7b-95-5335874bed70 Received: from ESESSHC019.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by mailgw1.ericsson.se (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id B2.82.10875.B4785335; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:29:31 +0100 (CET) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (153.88.183.153) by smtp.internal.ericsson.com (153.88.183.77) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.2.347.0; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:29:30 +0100 Message-ID: <5335874A.6000100@ericsson.com> Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 15:29:30 +0100 From: Magnus Westerlund User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "avtext@ietf.org" X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFrrHJMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvja53u2mwwf1vghYf791gdWD0WLLk J1MAYxSXTUpqTmZZapG+XQJXxuyZYgXd7BW3VtQ2MD5j7WLk5JAQMJE4ensTO4QtJnHh3nq2 LkYuDiGBQ4wSZya/ZQZJCAksZ5R4NYkLxOYV0JZ4tOI6UDMHB4uAqsTR42kgYTYBC4mbPxrZ QGxRgWCJpXMWs0CUC0qcnPkEzBYRUJe4M/0CWI2wgIvE29PvWUDGSAiIS/Q0BoGEmQX0JKZc bWGEsOUlmrfOhrpAW6KhqYN1AiP/LCRTZyFpmYWkZQEj8ypG9tzEzJz0csNNjMAwOrjlt+4O xlPnRA4xSnOwKInzfnjrHCQkkJ5YkpqdmlqQWhRfVJqTWnyIkYmDU6qBUd+RffeJGbbaO8QS ZhRWLzF5su3Ju5AK598btUqu5sk2cPgFJd89fUd2e9/3Cwsr3gptP7ni2wHtiryzGxe0BTCc S2Z8tOtFWMKdwAX+L7akaOw0PhGyUFx6Z6iz5dINQV83mgXWek64qc7b8ymImUPs7m9fIV+x xMiQyc6hKvsP585M0zS5p8RSnJFoqMVcVJwIAHwcgirxAQAA Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/avtext/CL1Nu6JN5rT7odVwsdsQ7M5laGg Subject: [avtext] Packet stream in draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-grouping-taxonomy-01 X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 14:29:36 -0000 Hi, Currently Section 2.1.10. defines "Packet Stream". I think this is sufficient terminology within the context of the grouping taxonomy document. However, I have noticed that when discussing this, I commonly have to prefix it with RTP to say "RTP packet stream" for it to make sense. Thus, I wonder if this prefixing with "RTP" should be included in the document to ensure that it is an official term? Cheers Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Services, Media and Network features, Ericsson Research EAB/TXM ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Fri Mar 28 11:39:58 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF8C01A0961 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 11:39:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.511 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.511 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4z7DscBv49W4 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 11:39:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alln-iport-1.cisco.com (alln-iport-1.cisco.com [173.37.142.88]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC1C51A0959 for ; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 11:39:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=1361; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1396031992; x=1397241592; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:content-id:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; bh=xjzkxJ/rGB8g2FoLqMm5aggI2qOLMkys8T+r9w7nRVQ=; b=a8IJ8F/mp0sErkM9HA8Z8DS1wNGVSmYF/4pnkREvhsOINVInpTKv1M+O LFYJhDwWDmblsnOdmk26v0rSlFpe0LIAatZQJBczUEtzPFN2Kxno0pAUc ub2qysQ+cCkoJrtvhkWPhWtM6NUGiIt/O+AYt8TOs9D1euKA25VB2KXsp k=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ai0FAMzANVOtJXG//2dsb2JhbABZgwY7V7tAhmRRgRgWdIIlAQEBAwEBAQEJYgsFCQICAQg/BxsMCxQRAgQOBYdxCA3SDhMEBI5DMweDJIEUBIkajzSSNYMwgis X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,752,1389744000"; d="scan'208";a="31240258" Received: from rcdn-core2-4.cisco.com ([173.37.113.191]) by alln-iport-1.cisco.com with ESMTP; 28 Mar 2014 18:39:51 +0000 Received: from xhc-aln-x09.cisco.com (xhc-aln-x09.cisco.com [173.36.12.83]) by rcdn-core2-4.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s2SIdpPo012448 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL); Fri, 28 Mar 2014 18:39:51 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x04.cisco.com ([169.254.8.5]) by xhc-aln-x09.cisco.com ([173.36.12.83]) with mapi id 14.03.0123.003; Fri, 28 Mar 2014 13:39:51 -0500 From: "Gonzalo Salgueiro (gsalguei)" To: Magnus Westerlund Thread-Topic: [avtext] Packet stream in draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-grouping-taxonomy-01 Thread-Index: AQHPSpInNdFWfqljREaG6wrlNq2Hj5r3KOEA Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 18:39:50 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5335874A.6000100@ericsson.com> In-Reply-To: <5335874A.6000100@ericsson.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.116.132.53] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/avtext/PHk3lnoY3pHC6jrA21PA2SeNToE Cc: "avtext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [avtext] Packet stream in draft-ietf-avtext-rtp-grouping-taxonomy-01 X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 18:39:56 -0000 This was also a comment recently raised by Paul Jones, so I think it makes = sense to make that change throughout the document. Cheers, Gonzalo On Mar 28, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Magnus Westerlund wrote: > Hi, >=20 > Currently Section 2.1.10. defines "Packet Stream". I think this is > sufficient terminology within the context of the grouping taxonomy > document. However, I have noticed that when discussing this, I commonly > have to prefix it with RTP to say "RTP packet stream" for it to make sens= e. >=20 > Thus, I wonder if this prefixing with "RTP" should be included in the > document to ensure that it is an official term? >=20 > Cheers >=20 > Magnus Westerlund >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Services, Media and Network features, Ericsson Research EAB/TXM > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 > F=E4r=F6gatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 > SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >=20 > _______________________________________________ > avtext mailing list > avtext@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/avtext