From nobody Thu Sep 1 14:50:18 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF84912D79B; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 14:50:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.447 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.447 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rPoupeU58jvW; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 14:50:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3458712D7A0; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 14:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.1.9] (cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u81LoCio097384 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 1 Sep 2016 16:50:14 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ben@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-66-25-7-22.tx.res.rr.com [66.25.7.22] claimed to be [10.0.1.9] From: "Ben Campbell" To: "Mirja Kuehlewind" Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2016 16:50:12 -0500 Message-ID: <5E90E26D-4817-45C1-90C8-E8CF21DF62EC@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <147264838158.5840.17092036625902905957.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> References: <147264838158.5840.17092036625902905957.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_MailMate_A9B10EA6-BB90-4130-AD55-F9D2CDC3A617_=" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.5r5260) Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-avtext-rid@ietf.org, avtext@ietf.org, jonathan@vidyo.com, The IESG , avtext-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [avtext] =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind=27s_No_Objection_on_draft?= =?utf-8?q?-ietf-avtext-rid-08=3A_=28with_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2016 21:50:18 -0000 --=_MailMate_A9B10EA6-BB90-4130-AD55-F9D2CDC3A617_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Mirja, Please see comments inline: Thanks! Ben. On 31 Aug 2016, at 7:59, Mirja Kuehlewind wrote: > Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-avtext-rid-08: No Objection > > > There is one use of normative language but no rfc2119 boilerplate: > > "RtpStreamId and RepairedStreamId MUST contain only alphanumeric > characters." I _think_ that is intended to indicate that is already an existing requirement on SDES items. But if that's the case, it probably needs to be attributed as a quote, or drop capital letters. (Authors, please confirm or deny.) > > I would actually recommend to add more normative language (and the > boilerplate), e.g.: > > " To be clear: the value carried in a RepairedRtpStreamId MUST > match the RtpStreamId value from another RTP stream in the same > session. For example, if a source RTP stream is identified by > RtpStreamId "A", then any redundancy RTP stream that repairs that > source RTP stream will contain a RepairedRtpStreamId of "A" (if > this > mechanism is being used to perform such correlation). These > redundant RTP streams MAY also contain their own unique > RtpStreamId." Again, I'd like the authors to confirm, but I think the (currently lower case) "may" is a statement of fact, rather than permission. --=_MailMate_A9B10EA6-BB90-4130-AD55-F9D2CDC3A617_= Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Mirja,

Please see comments inline:

Thanks!

Ben.

On 31 Aug 2016, at 7:59, Mirja Kuehlewind wrote:

Mirja K=C3=BChlewind has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-avtext-rid-08: No Objection
There is one use of normative language but no rfc= 2119 boilerplate:
"RtpStreamId and RepairedStreamId MUST contain on= ly alphanumeric
characters."

I think that is intended to indicate that is alr= eady an existing requirement on SDES items. But if that's the case, it pr= obably needs to be attributed as a quote, or drop capital letters. (Autho= rs, please confirm or deny.)

I would actually recommend to add more normative = language (and the
boilerplate), e.g.:
" To be clear: the value carried in a RepairedRtp= StreamId MUST
match the RtpStreamId value from another RTP s= tream in the same
session. For example, if a source RTP stream = is identified by
RtpStreamId "A", then any redundancy RTP strea= m that repairs that
source RTP stream will contain a RepairedRtpSt= reamId of "A" (if this
mechanism is being used to perform such correl= ation). These
redundant RTP streams MAY also contain their o= wn unique RtpStreamId."

Again, I'd like the authors to confirm, but I think the (= currently lower case) "may" is a statement of fact, rather than permissio= n.

--=_MailMate_A9B10EA6-BB90-4130-AD55-F9D2CDC3A617_=-- From nobody Thu Sep 1 15:02:31 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071EA12DB17; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 15:02:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.447 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.447 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nf_5wSz5ilJR; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 15:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9327D12DB06; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 15:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Orochi.local (99-152-145-110.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.145.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u81M2OiE098572 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:02:26 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host 99-152-145-110.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.145.110] claimed to be Orochi.local To: Ben Campbell , Mirja Kuehlewind References: <147264838158.5840.17092036625902905957.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <5E90E26D-4817-45C1-90C8-E8CF21DF62EC@nostrum.com> From: Adam Roach Message-ID: <84bc0499-d77f-1e5c-d06d-cb27b81428e3@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:02:24 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5E90E26D-4817-45C1-90C8-E8CF21DF62EC@nostrum.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0AE24CE3896BF48F2EF14916" Archived-At: Cc: draft-ietf-avtext-rid@ietf.org, avtext@ietf.org, jonathan@vidyo.com, The IESG , avtext-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [avtext] =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind=27s_No_Objection_on_draft?= =?utf-8?q?-ietf-avtext-rid-08=3A_=28with_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2016 22:02:29 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0AE24CE3896BF48F2EF14916 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On 9/1/16 16:50, Ben Campbell wrote: > > Hi Mirja, > > Please see comments inline: > > Thanks! > > Ben. > > On 31 Aug 2016, at 7:59, Mirja Kuehlewind wrote: > > Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-avtext-rid-08: No Objection > There is one use of normative language but no rfc2119 boilerplate: > "RtpStreamId and RepairedStreamId MUST contain only alphanumeric > characters." > > I /think/ that is intended to indicate that is already an existing > requirement on SDES items. But if that's the case, it probably needs > to be attributed as a quote, or drop capital letters. (Authors, please > confirm or deny.) > No, it's a further restriction. SDES items can contain UTF-8. In Berlin, we decided that we wanted to limit these to alphanumeric, to match the SDP restrictions. > I would actually recommend to add more normative language (and the > boilerplate), e.g.: > " To be clear: the value carried in a RepairedRtpStreamId MUST > match the RtpStreamId value from another RTP stream in the same > session. For example, if a source RTP stream is identified by > RtpStreamId "A", then any redundancy RTP stream that repairs that > source RTP stream will contain a RepairedRtpStreamId of "A" (if this > mechanism is being used to perform such correlation). These > redundant RTP streams MAY also contain their own unique RtpStreamId." > > Again, I'd like the authors to confirm, but I think the (currently > lower case) "may" is a statement of fact, rather than permission. > This is true. The omission of RFC 2119 language was not entirely unintentional. My understanding is that using 2119 is optional, and largely at the authors' discretion. At some point, it became clear that this document was easier to read without 2119 terms. The inclusion of "MUST" in this very recent edit (like I said, it came out of Berlin) was in error. It should be lowercase. Unless we're going to get into an argument over editorial control. /a --------------0AE24CE3896BF48F2EF14916 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 9/1/16 16:50, Ben Campbell wrote:

Hi Mirja,

Please see comments inline:

Thanks!

Ben.

On 31 Aug 2016, at 7:59, Mirja Kuehlewind wrote:

Mirja Kühlewind has entered the following ballot position for
draft-ietf-avtext-rid-08: No Objection
There is one use of normative language but no rfc2119 boilerplate:
"RtpStreamId and RepairedStreamId MUST contain only alphanumeric
characters."

I think that is intended to indicate that is already an existing requirement on SDES items. But if that's the case, it probably needs to be attributed as a quote, or drop capital letters. (Authors, please confirm or deny.)


No, it's a further restriction. SDES items can contain UTF-8. In Berlin, we decided that we wanted to limit these to alphanumeric, to match the SDP restrictions.

I would actually recommend to add more normative language (and the
boilerplate), e.g.:
" To be clear: the value carried in a RepairedRtpStreamId MUST
match the RtpStreamId value from another RTP stream in the same
session. For example, if a source RTP stream is identified by
RtpStreamId "A", then any redundancy RTP stream that repairs that
source RTP stream will contain a RepairedRtpStreamId of "A" (if this
mechanism is being used to perform such correlation). These
redundant RTP streams MAY also contain their own unique RtpStreamId."

Again, I'd like the authors to confirm, but I think the (currently lower case) "may" is a statement of fact, rather than permission.


This is true.

The omission of RFC 2119 language was not entirely unintentional. My understanding is that using 2119 is optional, and largely at the authors' discretion. At some point, it became clear that this document was easier to read without 2119 terms. The inclusion of "MUST" in this very recent edit (like I said, it came out of Berlin) was in error. It should be lowercase.

Unless we're going to get into an argument over editorial control.

/a

--------------0AE24CE3896BF48F2EF14916-- From nobody Thu Sep 1 19:36:38 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A3D12DB57; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 19:36:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.448 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.448 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.548] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4Z6fc-XwDq2t; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 19:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B76BD12DB62; Thu, 1 Sep 2016 19:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Svantevit.roach.at (cpe-70-122-154-80.tx.res.rr.com [70.122.154.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u822aQYb036645 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 1 Sep 2016 21:36:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-70-122-154-80.tx.res.rr.com [70.122.154.80] claimed to be Svantevit.roach.at To: Ben Campbell , Mirja Kuehlewind References: <147264838158.5840.17092036625902905957.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <5E90E26D-4817-45C1-90C8-E8CF21DF62EC@nostrum.com> <84bc0499-d77f-1e5c-d06d-cb27b81428e3@nostrum.com> From: Adam Roach Message-ID: <00c6e42c-b5fc-e9ef-0ff4-4c3e4b115286@nostrum.com> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 21:36:21 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <84bc0499-d77f-1e5c-d06d-cb27b81428e3@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Cc: avtext-chairs@ietf.org, draft-ietf-avtext-rid@ietf.org, avtext@ietf.org, The IESG , jonathan@vidyo.com Subject: Re: [avtext] =?utf-8?q?Mirja_K=C3=BChlewind=27s_No_Objection_on_draft?= =?utf-8?q?-ietf-avtext-rid-08=3A_=28with_COMMENT=29?= X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2016 02:36:33 -0000 On 9/1/16 5:02 PM, Adam Roach wrote: > > The omission of RFC 2119 language was not entirely unintentional. My > understanding is that using 2119 is optional, and largely at the > authors' discretion. At some point, it became clear that this document > was easier to read without 2119 terms. The inclusion of "MUST" in this > very recent edit (like I said, it came out of Berlin) was in error. It > should be lowercase. > > Unless we're going to get into an argument over editorial control. > I apologize. This came out as unnecessarily grumpy. What I meant is that I believe the behavior described by the document is well-specified without the use of RFC 2119 language, and that the prose flows better without it. It is my preference not to re-work the phrasing to incorporate capitalized terms. /a From nobody Sun Sep 4 23:24:52 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C73C12B186; Sun, 4 Sep 2016 23:24:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.728 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.728 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.508, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TyAvYO2BweRR; Sun, 4 Sep 2016 23:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lhrrgout.huawei.com (lhrrgout.huawei.com [194.213.3.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A085F12B188; Sun, 4 Sep 2016 23:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 172.18.7.190 (EHLO lhreml705-cah.china.huawei.com) ([172.18.7.190]) by lhrrg02-dlp.huawei.com (MOS 4.3.7-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id CQT05616; Mon, 05 Sep 2016 06:24:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from NKGEML411-HUB.china.huawei.com (10.98.56.70) by lhreml705-cah.china.huawei.com (10.201.5.168) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.235.1; Mon, 5 Sep 2016 07:24:43 +0100 Received: from NKGEML513-MBX.china.huawei.com ([169.254.1.179]) by nkgeml411-hub.china.huawei.com ([10.98.56.70]) with mapi id 14.03.0235.001; Mon, 5 Sep 2016 14:24:37 +0800 From: "Huangyihong (Rachel)" To: "draft-ietf-avtext-avpf-ccm-layered@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [avtext] IPR query for draft-ietf-avtext-avpf-ccm-layered Thread-Index: AdIHPizFe1JVHZKYSAyZh/CCpA3vzg== Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2016 06:24:37 +0000 Message-ID: <51E6A56BD6A85142B9D172C87FC3ABBB86F54C8B@nkgeml513-mbx.china.huawei.com> Accept-Language: zh-CN, en-US Content-Language: zh-CN X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.136.78.28] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_51E6A56BD6A85142B9D172C87FC3ABBB86F54C8Bnkgeml513mbxchi_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-CFilter-Loop: Reflected X-Mirapoint-Virus-RAPID-Raw: score=unknown(0), refid=str=0001.0A020203.57CD0FAD.0088, ss=1, re=0.000, recu=0.000, reip=0.000, cl=1, cld=1, fgs=0, ip=169.254.1.179, so=2013-06-18 04:22:30, dmn=2013-03-21 17:37:32 X-Mirapoint-Loop-Id: 36ae6416f6cb8c5da953f0a44c53b21e Archived-At: Cc: "jonathan@vidyo.com" , "avtext@ietf.org" Subject: [avtext] IPR query for draft-ietf-avtext-avpf-ccm-layered X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2016 06:24:50 -0000 --_000_51E6A56BD6A85142B9D172C87FC3ABBB86F54C8Bnkgeml513mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi authors, Would you please indicate if you know of any IPR in draft-ietf-avtext-avpf-= ccm-layered-01.txt? We need this IPR declaration before we forward this for= RFC publication. BR, Rachel --_000_51E6A56BD6A85142B9D172C87FC3ABBB86F54C8Bnkgeml513mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi authors,

 

Would you please indicate if yo= u know of any IPR in draft-ietf-avtext-avpf-ccm-layered-01.txt? We need thi= s IPR declaration before we forward this for RFC publication.

 

BR,

Rachel

 

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Dear authors,=

 

Would you please solve the foll= owing nits found in idnits?

 

 

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  -- The draft header indicates that this document updates RFC5104= , but the

     abstract doesn't seem to directly say this.&nb= sp; It does mention RFC5104

     though, so this could be OK.=

 

 

  Miscellaneous warnings:

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     comments or warnings related to the use of a d= isclaimer for pre-RFC5378

     work that could not be issued because of this.=   Please check the Legal

     Provisions document at http://trustee.ietf.org= /license-info to determine

     if you need the pre-RFC5378 disclaimer.

 

  -- The document date (May 17, 2016) is 112 days in the past.&nbs= p; Is this

     intentional?

 

 

  Checking references for intended status: Proposed Standard<= /o:p>

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     (See RFCs 3967 and 4897 for information about = using normative references

     to lower-maturity documents in RFCs)

 

  =3D=3D Unused Reference: 'I-D.ietf-mmusic-rid' is defined on lin= e 391, but no

     explicit reference was found in the text<= /o:p>

 

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     397, but no explicit reference was found in th= e text

 

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BR,

Rachel

 

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avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 630A312B47C; Tue, 13 Sep 2016 07:08:53 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.33.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147377573340.10991.8309934423231597583.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 07:08:53 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: avtext@ietf.org, ipr-announce@ietf.org Subject: [avtext] IPR Disclosure Vidyo, Inc.'s Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-avtext-framemarking X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 14:08:53 -0000 Dear Espen Berger, Suhas Nandakumar, Mo Zanaty: An IPR disclosure that pertains to 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The title of the IPR disclosure is "Vidyo, Inc.'s Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-avtext-framemarking" Thank you IETF Secretariat From nobody Thu Sep 22 18:09:40 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietf.org Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C7812B2EF; Thu, 22 Sep 2016 18:09:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.33.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <147459297813.22415.2254357730188318136.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 18:09:38 -0700 Archived-At: Cc: avtext@ietf.org Subject: [avtext] I-D Action: draft-ietf-avtext-avpf-ccm-layered-02.txt X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 01:09:38 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Audio/Video Transport Extensions of the IETF. Title : Using Codec Control Messages in the RTP Audio-Visual Profile with Feedback with Layered Codecs Authors : Stephan Wenger Jonathan Lennox Bo Burman Magnus Westerlund Filename : draft-ietf-avtext-avpf-ccm-layered-02.txt Pages : 11 Date : 2016-09-22 Abstract: This document updates RFC5104 by fixing a shortcoming in the specification language of the Codec Control Message Full Intra Request (FIR) as defined in RFC5104 when using it with layered codecs. In particular, a Decoder Refresh Point needs to be sent by a media sender when a FIR is received on any layer of the layered bitstream, regardless on whether those layers are being sent in a single or in multiple RTP flows. The other payload-specific feedback messages defined in RFC 5104 and RFC 4585 as updated by RFC 5506 have also been analyzed, and no corresponding shortcomings have been found. 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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear WG, This is a short 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-avtext-avpf-ccm-layered. Please hav= e a careful review of following new version to see if there's any further i= ssues left. This WGLC will end on September 30, 2016. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-avpf-ccm-layered-02 BR, Rachel --_000_51E6A56BD6A85142B9D172C87FC3ABBB86FA5F7Ankgeml513mbxchi_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear WG,

 

This is a short 2nd = WGLC for draft-ietf-avtext-avpf-ccm-layered. Please have a careful review o= f following new version to see if there’s any further issues left. Th= is WGLC will end on September 30, 2016.

 

https://tools.ietf.org/ht= ml/draft-ietf-avtext-avpf-ccm-layered-02

 

BR,

Rachel

 

--_000_51E6A56BD6A85142B9D172C87FC3ABBB86FA5F7Ankgeml513mbxchi_-- From nobody Mon Sep 26 16:11:35 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: avtext@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D126D12B36D for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 16:11:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RJJgqi6VJI9V for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 16:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-lf0-x22e.google.com (mail-lf0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3E9A12B375 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 16:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id b71so137796227lfg.0 for ; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 16:11:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Z0vN4O7jm916qkXRy1wuhrpNBK47hncrQ7THtWCk0sw=; b=W8qxQk+4uKyLEWGwhEt+npDziOHsbPaatV495EEQOvVaxC4TskwYNGUQhiGy/63r1h dzxMek93cOXT9hZ9DjZKTAnVkRDc+nBkcApAy5czJCkh5SwAvsI7rzWWmFHvlEGbHwkf kP2yaa/S1cQi1EpZruN1AjEu4BahtXAeoGT4AGNsNOwOhamdb8mF9kBySCRsmyM6QgGU n70HNPcayzIQp41ypJcUz10p1CT7YjzxUaC4RiRBcLff1Iouva8rKOJ0EPkPoEo2aQ1J OEor6X8BB2SMJBkPV+lkT0D3mJ+Ap9NKQ1vnWptCRfBmluz+1+TqBxObiZUyoxiYATgq Y3ug== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Z0vN4O7jm916qkXRy1wuhrpNBK47hncrQ7THtWCk0sw=; b=kh6dEBHFw/bjwyfihcpz5fx6tmAqPwio5qCmwsDd5FlmoceRYEbVgkDqwe8XTriyMc zRULLJqPCYnq1ojlmCwiLFIK9zxONqPedCgPKI3YvAI/fsiZ5QbVG5DVSIFsu3ImzsF8 YvotEKJNg1peXodUd2WkSZyakeEfVGCC7/G8LZDiH3Tee/2+Q7lQnbdXoPi1lWFY8R7W NayLiUI/3CKRQLePpVxMXrTCN5oUHkXJLORrCtq2l7g+xVhA+SRCkK038aXYPe1tHKf7 mxSxhXGwidkVtpMDlgb4LdXaBLUP+puG4Nq/aGcEtd/xFC6ZWgouxRfcqzHpx28pMLiG KwmA== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwPRewmyn0IVnNEXHg8ikcpkU8zZUd6QSkgqVB55H66EUUmV7VJejlaEvNA5gphCt4SDbt/wcrJjZ101cg== X-Received: by 10.46.0.163 with SMTP id e35mr7301260lji.55.1474931490865; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 16:11:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.201.73 with HTTP; Mon, 26 Sep 2016 16:11:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51E6A56BD6A85142B9D172C87FC3ABBB86FA5F7A@nkgeml513-mbx.china.huawei.com> References: <51E6A56BD6A85142B9D172C87FC3ABBB86FA5F7A@nkgeml513-mbx.china.huawei.com> From: Ron Even Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2016 02:11:30 +0300 Message-ID: To: "Huangyihong (Rachel)" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1142a96c94c7fe053d713fef Archived-At: Cc: "avtext@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [avtext] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-avtext-avpf-ccm-layered X-BeenThere: avtext@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Audio/Video Transport Extensions working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2016 23:11:35 -0000 --001a1142a96c94c7fe053d713fef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I reviewed the current version and have not comments. I find the clarifications for FIR usage for layered codec correct. Roni Even. On Thursday, September 22, 2016, Huangyihong (Rachel) < rachel.huang@huawei.com> wrote: > Dear WG, > > > > This is a short 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-avtext-avpf-ccm-layered. Please > have a careful review of following new version to see if there=E2=80=99s = any > further issues left. This WGLC will end on September 30, 2016. > > > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-avtext-avpf-ccm-layered-02 > > > > BR, > > Rachel > > > --001a1142a96c94c7fe053d713fef Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,=C2=A0
I reviewed the current version and have not comments.
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Dear al= l,

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The 2nd WGLC is finished. There=A1=AFs no more issue raised for now. I= =A1=AFll move this document into next step.

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BR,

Rachel<= o:p>

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=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: avtext [mailto:avtext-bounces@ietf.org] =B4=FA=B1=ED = Huangyihong (Rachel)
=B7=A2=CB=CD= =CA=B1=BC=E4: 2016=C4=EA9=D4=C2<= span lang=3D"EN-US">23=C8=D5 10:05
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=D6=F7=CC=E2: [avtext] 2nd WGLC for draft-ietf-avtext-avpf-ccm-layered

 

Dear WG,

 

This is a short 2nd = WGLC for draft-ietf-avtext-avpf-ccm-layered. Please have a careful review o= f following new version to see if there=A1=AFs any further issues left. Thi= s WGLC will end on September 30, 2016.

 

https://tools.ietf.org/ht= ml/draft-ietf-avtext-avpf-ccm-layered-02

 

BR,

Rachel

 

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