From nobody Mon Feb 1 08:10:52 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bess@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: bess@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 845C53A1297; Mon, 1 Feb 2021 08:10:50 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.997 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.997 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, HTTPS_HTTP_MISMATCH=0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4dulKMNnI2QN; Mon, 1 Feb 2021 08:10:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ot1-x330.google.com (mail-ot1-x330.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::330]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 69E2C3A1296; Mon, 1 Feb 2021 08:10:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-ot1-x330.google.com with SMTP id i20so16777341otl.7; Mon, 01 Feb 2021 08:10:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:to:cc:subject:thread-topic:thread-index:date:message-id :references:accept-language:content-language:mime-version; bh=35Yg5eUCVmd30u15VOzZaefNJgxTo+mdrzzbNItptsQ=; b=dzGBZGKBTuX8qTBGcS2dTZ2o1c7ZHZd7w+376HkG3ecYYsDYiM/aNAyTLbpXHfgYgI Wz7UDfvU3xDJk/qBd7nyL559Rni14kdhpx0b+XX2IdNelC+At3lnf/jrH3c8fZrDdWw0 df7+3C5hNCHS6IPh4o+s9lm7PqOShvqSGrwln7k+5FsQrXZaoDlgQiHvPHDPmJQ29Tun wMAdSkKPoVt3mmdr7m6djbyP8sEWMtvnNMyQcOI9PqpMvMPlMXz1ZN/8BsgbM7ajzrcD FgH7hbry+dG/ycvr2fC99OGsiTXeeCKax9bK549DrbiFy4cLSpsjSKnPZN2+n8D0s4Bl E7ug== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:thread-topic:thread-index :date:message-id:references:accept-language:content-language :mime-version; bh=35Yg5eUCVmd30u15VOzZaefNJgxTo+mdrzzbNItptsQ=; b=mWBRUZq6R7lfbjbSsFUOXS/XOt8hH8+zOf3K0dHF4n34alI2ffra5sh2lhq3qjIdcH 7nghe/SSik57nrYx9e2zk21I/eWH0/87zcLrOacIOhG01Er/hnguAJV35GKwlZpUCZbn a8yR041LVQvy7kfczLIi8YqW3L+g/ATdh4/a/pw9kdBnNd4lq/q492AnV4D/bFwnNYxY IMnFXuhSMttr7rhM++CGaDLCuDFNEM8I+MLbYPyd/nok7mwofuPjzd/JRA9JC0VY4eHI seg2jJnw8RRY+dEUuu19E/S+zsthrSVutlLbFoiSo/9/NWeAujzubq1l1WO9udr01oeP k6mQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5327oPlqEiwmV1LhXGHYEGCORCOU4/1qUl7tvPu5EQsUx6JDq1cs SEt5Rg0RxzHCA09eonFeL1s= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxGLkW5xt/mRoCdRwQskLjJySia8LqI5GxlLPRhxKiBPn4VRsn0VqVeg6UAGByimdv1YISn8A== X-Received: by 2002:a9d:4b07:: with SMTP id q7mr11765558otf.270.1612195832731; Mon, 01 Feb 2021 08:10:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from DF4PR8401MB0650.NAMPRD84.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM ([2a01:111:f400:7509::5]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id l8sm4130128ota.9.2021.02.01.08.10.31 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Feb 2021 08:10:32 -0800 (PST) From: =?Windows-1252?Q?Luc_Andr=E9_Burdet?= To: "slitkows.ietf@gmail.com" , "bess@ietf.org" CC: "bess-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 Thread-Index: AdbteAcVQBKg3IU0QLq78eLnSMtz4w== X-MS-Exchange-MessageSentRepresentingType: 1 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2021 16:10:31 +0000 Message-ID: References: <021001d6ed78$13981240$3ac836c0$@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-Exchange-Organization-SCL: -1 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-MS-Exchange-Organization-RecordReviewCfmType: 0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_DF4PR8401MB06501FBE50EFF9F65F1CC05BAFB69DF4PR8401MB0650_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 X-BeenThere: bess@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: BGP-Enabled ServiceS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2021 16:10:51 -0000 --_000_DF4PR8401MB06501FBE50EFF9F65F1CC05BAFB69DF4PR8401MB0650_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi St=E9phane, Neeraj/authors, There is a use-case that was seemingly excluded from RFC7432 which I think = this draft is a good candidate to cover. I otherwise support progression. RFC7432 s.10 addresses the gateway use-case, and enforces ESI=3D0 on any (o= ptional)gateway MAC advertisement. This draft which expands on use-cases of IRB/MAC mobility may be a good pla= ce to introduce and describe Aliasing and Backup(i.e. RFC7432 s.8) procedur= es on the Gateway MAC for multi-homing Gateways sharing a same MAC. Currently RFC7432 specifies such gateways don=92t need to advertise the MAC= (s.10.1 =A76, optional) whereas it may make sense to advertise them with n= onzero ESI (alongside EADs). Fast-failover of shared Gateway MACs could b= e covered here as an extension to 7432. Thoughts? This could also potentially be done in 7432-bis. Regards, Luc Andr=E9 Burdet | Cisco | laburdet.ietf@gmail.com | Tel: +1 613 254= 4814 From: BESS on behalf of "slitkows.ietf@gmail.com" <= slitkows.ietf@gmail.com> Date: Monday, January 18, 2021 at 03:58 To: "bess@ietf.org" Cc: "bess-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-ietf-be= ss-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 This email starts a two-week working group last call for draft-ietf-bess-ev= pn-irb-extended-mobility-01 [1] Please review the draft and send any comments to the BESS list. Also, pleas= e indicate if you support publishing the draft as a standards track RFC. This poll runs until February 1st. We are also polling for knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to th= is Document, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF = IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as an Author or a Contributor of this document please res= pond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevan= t undisclosed IPR. The Document won't progress without answers from all the= Authors and Contributors. There is currently no IPR disclosed. In addition, we are polling for knowledge of implementations of this draft,= per the BESS policy in [2]. Thank you, Matthew & Stephane [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobi= lity/ [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw<= https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1= tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!X5h4y9zD3js4IFT_XC9-diCFCY2KETdVMSaY= YY3ihMfJkJT9ibnhUx4IgRXhv_vc$> --_000_DF4PR8401MB06501FBE50EFF9F65F1CC05BAFB69DF4PR8401MB0650_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi St=E9phane, Neeraj/authors,<= o:p>

 

There is a use-case that was seemingly excluded from= RFC7432 which I think this draft is a good candidate to cover.<= /p>

I otherwise support progression.


RFC7432 s.10 addresses the gateway use-case, and enforces ESI=3D0 on any (o= ptional)gateway MAC advertisement.

 

This draft which expands on use-cases of IRB/MAC mob= ility may be a good place to introduce and describe Aliasing and Backup(i.e= . RFC7432 s.8) procedures on the Gateway MAC for multi-homing Gateways shar= ing a same MAC.

Currently RFC7432 specifies such gateways don=92t ne= ed to advertise the MAC (s.10.1 =A76, optional) whereas it may make sense t= o advertise them with nonzero ESI (alongside EADs).   Fast-failov= er of shared Gateway MACs could be covered here as an extension to 7432.

 

Thoughts? This could also poten= tially be done in 7432-bis.

 

Regards,

Luc Andr=E9 Burdet |  Cisc= o  |  laburdet.ietf@gmail.com  |  Tel: +1 613 254 4814<= o:p>

&n= bsp;

&n= bsp;

From= : BESS <bess-bou= nces@ietf.org> on behalf of "slitkows.ietf@gmail.com" <slit= kows.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, January 18, 2021 at 03:58
To: "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>
Cc: "bess-chairs@ietf.org" <bess-chairs@ietf.org> Subject: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-= ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01

 

This email starts a two-week= working group last call for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 = [1]

 

 

 

Please review the draft and = send any comments to the BESS list. Also, please indicate if you support pu= blishing the draft as a standards track RFC.

 

 

 

This poll runs until Februar= y 1st.

 

 

 

We are also polling for know= ledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to this Document, to ensure that = IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 48= 79, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

 

If you are listed as an Auth= or or a Contributor of this document please respond to this email and indic= ate whether or not you are aware of any relevant undisclosed IPR. The Docum= ent won't progress without answers from all the Authors and Contributors.

 

There is currently no IPR di= sclosed.

 

In additi= on, we are polling for knowledge of implementations of this draft, per the BESS policy in [2]. &nbs= p; 

 

 

Thank you,

 

Matthew & Stephane

 

[1] https://d= atatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility/

[2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arc= h/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw

 

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Not aware of any undisclosed IPR. Thanks, Neeraj On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 12:58 AM wrote: > This email starts a two-week working group last call for > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 [1] > > > > > > > > Please review the draft and send any comments to the BESS list. Also, > please indicate if you support publishing the draft as a standards track > RFC. > > > > > > > > This poll runs until February 1st. > > > > > > > > We are also polling for knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to > this Document, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with > IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > > > If you are listed as an Author or a Contributor of this document please > respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any > relevant undisclosed IPR. 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charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Luc, The default gateway aliasing concept is indeed covered in https://tools.iet= f.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis-00#section-10.1 But there is no use of non-zero ESI along with this procedure. If there is a use-case for it, compared to the existing functionality in th= e draft above, we should discuss it in the context of it.. personally I don= =92t think it belongs to the irb-extended-mobility draft. Thanks. Jorge From: BESS on behalf of Luc Andr=E9 Burdet Date: Monday, February 1, 2021 at 5:11 PM To: slitkows.ietf@gmail.com , bess@ietf.org Cc: bess-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-iet= f-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 Hi St=E9phane, Neeraj/authors, There is a use-case that was seemingly excluded from RFC7432 which I think = this draft is a good candidate to cover. I otherwise support progression. RFC7432 s.10 addresses the gateway use-case, and enforces ESI=3D0 on any (o= ptional)gateway MAC advertisement. This draft which expands on use-cases of IRB/MAC mobility may be a good pla= ce to introduce and describe Aliasing and Backup(i.e. RFC7432 s.8) procedur= es on the Gateway MAC for multi-homing Gateways sharing a same MAC. Currently RFC7432 specifies such gateways don=92t need to advertise the MAC= (s.10.1 =A76, optional) whereas it may make sense to advertise them with n= onzero ESI (alongside EADs). Fast-failover of shared Gateway MACs could b= e covered here as an extension to 7432. Thoughts? This could also potentially be done in 7432-bis. Regards, Luc Andr=E9 Burdet | Cisco | laburdet.ietf@gmail.com | Tel: +1 613 254= 4814 From: BESS on behalf of "slitkows.ietf@gmail.com" <= slitkows.ietf@gmail.com> Date: Monday, January 18, 2021 at 03:58 To: "bess@ietf.org" Cc: "bess-chairs@ietf.org" Subject: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-ietf-be= ss-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 This email starts a two-week working group last call for draft-ietf-bess-ev= pn-irb-extended-mobility-01 [1] Please review the draft and send any comments to the BESS list. Also, pleas= e indicate if you support publishing the draft as a standards track RFC. This poll runs until February 1st. We are also polling for knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to th= is Document, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF = IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as an Author or a Contributor of this document please res= pond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevan= t undisclosed IPR. The Document won't progress without answers from all the= Authors and Contributors. There is currently no IPR disclosed. In addition, we are polling for knowledge of implementations of this draft,= per the BESS policy in [2]. Thank you, Matthew & Stephane [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobi= lity/ [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw<= https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1= tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!X5h4y9zD3js4IFT_XC9-diCFCY2KETdVMSaY= YY3ihMfJkJT9ibnhUx4IgRXhv_vc$> --_000_MWHPR08MB3520B6F2095377EB162CEFAAF7B59MWHPR08MB3520namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Luc,

 

The default gateway aliasing concept is indeed covered in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-bess-rfc7432bis-00#section-10.1 =

 

But there is no use of non-zero ESI along with this procedure.=

If there is a use-case for it, compared to the existing functionality in = the draft above, we should discuss it in the context of it.. personally I d= on=92t think it belongs to the irb-extended-mobility draft.

 

Thanks.

Jorge

 

From: BESS <bess-bounces@ietf.org> on be= half of Luc Andr=E9 Burdet <laburdet.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, February 1, 2021 at 5:11 PM
To: slitkows.ietf@gmail.com <slitkows.ietf@gmail.com>, bess@ie= tf.org <bess@ietf.org>
Cc: bess-chairs@ietf.org <bess-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for dr= aft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01

Hi St=E9phane, Neeraj/a= uthors,

 

There is a use-case tha= t was seemingly excluded from RFC7432 which I think this draft is a good ca= ndidate to cover.

I otherwise support pro= gression.


RFC7432 s.10 addresses the gateway use-case, and enforces ESI=3D0 on any (o= ptional)gateway MAC advertisement.

 

This draft which expand= s on use-cases of IRB/MAC mobility may be a good place to introduce and des= cribe Aliasing and Backup(i.e. RFC7432 s.8) procedures on the Gateway MAC f= or multi-homing Gateways sharing a same MAC.

Currently RFC7432 speci= fies such gateways don=92t need to advertise the MAC (s.10.1 =A76, optional= ) whereas it may make sense to advertise them with nonzero ESI (alongside E= ADs).   Fast-failover of shared Gateway MACs could be covered here as an extension to 7432.

 

Thoughts? This could al= so potentially be done in 7432-bis.

 

Regards,

Luc Andr=E9 Burdet | &n= bsp;Cisco  |  laburdet.ietf@gmail.com  |  Tel: +1 613 2= 54 4814

 

 

From: BESS <bess-bounc= es@ietf.org> on behalf of "slitkows.ietf@gmail.com" <slitko= ws.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, January 18, 2021 at 03:58
To: "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>
Cc: "bess-chairs@ietf.org" <bess-chairs@ietf.org> Subject: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-= ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01

 

This email starts a = two-week working group last call for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobi= lity-01 [1]

 

 

 

Please review the dr= aft and send any comments to the BESS list. Also, please indicate if you su= pport publishing the draft as a standards track RFC.

 

 

 

This poll runs until= February 1st.

 

 

 

We are also polling = for knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to this Document, to ensu= re that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs = 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

 

If you are listed as= an Author or a Contributor of this document please respond to this email a= nd indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant undisclosed IPR. T= he Document won't progress without answers from all the Authors and Contributors.

 

There is currently n= o IPR disclosed.

 

In addition, we are polling for knowledge of implementations of this draft, per the BESS policy in [2]. &nbs= p; 

 

 

Thank you,

 

Matthew & Stepha= ne

 

[1] https://d= atatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility/

[2] https:/= /mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw<= /span>

 

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Thanks, Neeraj > On Feb 2, 2021, at 12:06 AM, Neeraj Malhotra wrote= : >=20 > =EF=BB=BF >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Support as co-author. Not aware of any undisclosed IPR. >=20 > Thanks, > Neeraj >=20 >> On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 12:58 AM wrote: >> This email starts a two-week working group last call for draft-ietf-bess-= evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 [1] >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Please review the draft and send any comments to the BESS list. Also, ple= ase indicate if you support publishing the draft as a standards track RFC. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> This poll runs until February 1st. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> We are also polling for knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to t= his Document, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF I= PR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> If you are listed as an Author or a Contributor of this document please r= espond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any releva= nt undisclosed IPR. The Document won't progress without answers from all the= Authors and Contributors. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> There is currently no IPR disclosed. >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> In addition, we are polling for knowledge of implementations of this draf= t, per the BESS policy in [2]. =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Thank you, >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Matthew & Stephane >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mo= bility/ >>=20 >> [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDp= w >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> BESS mailing list >> BESS@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess --Apple-Mail-89247B48-D97F-472A-AC76-173AACC575F9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

missed mentionin= g earlier that there are known implementations of this draft.

=
Thanks,
Neeraj

On Feb 2, 2021, at 12:06 AM, Neeraj Malhotra <neeraj.ietf@gmail= .com> wrote:

=EF=BB=BF

Hi,

Sup= port as co-author. Not aware of any undisclosed IPR.

Thanks,
Neeraj

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 12:58 AM <slitkows.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
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This email starts a two-week w= orking group last call for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 [1]=

 

 

 

Please review the draft and send any c= omments to the BESS list. Also, please indicate if you support publishing th= e draft as a standards track RFC.

 

 

 

This p= oll runs until February 1st.

 =

 

 

We are also polling for knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to th= is Document, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF I= PR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

 

If you are listed as an Author or a= Contributor of this document please respond to this email and indicate whet= her or not you are aware of any relevant undisclosed IPR. The Document won't= progress without answers from all the Authors and Contributors.

 

There is currently no IPR disclose= d.

 

In addition, we are polling f= or knowledge of implementations of this draft, per the BESS policy in [2].=   

 = ;

 

Thank you,

 

Matthew & Stephane

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[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility= /

[2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTq= b_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw

 

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(EVPN Operations, Administration and Maintenance Requirements and Framework) to Informational RFC X-BeenThere: bess@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: BGP-Enabled ServiceS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2021 16:10:12 -0000 The IESG has received a request from the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG (bess) to consider the following document: - 'EVPN Operations, Administration and Maintenance Requirements and Framework' as Informational RFC The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the last-call@ietf.org mailing lists by 2021-02-16. Exceptionally, comments may be sent to iesg@ietf.org instead. In either case, please retain the beginning of the Subject line to allow automated sorting. Abstract This document specifies the requirements and reference framework for Ethernet VPN (EVPN) Operations, Administration and Maintenance (OAM). The requirements cover the OAM aspects of EVPN and PBB-EVPN. The framework defines the layered OAM model encompassing the EVPN service layer, network layer and underlying Packet Switched Network (PSN) transport layer. The file can be obtained via https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk/ No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. From nobody Tue Feb 2 08:26:30 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: bess@ietf.org Delivered-To: bess@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7EDA3A1C06; Tue, 2 Feb 2021 08:26:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: "IETF-Announce" X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.25.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Cc: Stephane Litkowski , The IESG , bess-chairs@ietf.org, bess@ietf.org, draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover@ietf.org, martin.vigoureux@nokia.com, rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org, slitkows.ietf@gmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <161228318173.30289.17324346747023931242@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2021 08:26:21 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [bess] Protocol Action: 'Multicast VPN Fast Upstream Failover' to Proposed Standard (draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-15.txt) X-BeenThere: bess@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: BGP-Enabled ServiceS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2021 16:26:22 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Multicast VPN Fast Upstream Failover' (draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover-15.txt) as Proposed Standard This document is the product of the BGP Enabled ServiceS Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alvaro Retana, Deborah Brungard and Martin Vigoureux. A URL of this Internet Draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-mvpn-fast-failover/ Technical Summary This document defines multicast VPN extensions and procedures that allow fast failover for upstream failures. Working Group Summary There was no particular controversy on this draft but multiple enhancements have been added over time by various contributors. The document has been in the WG for a while and the initial authors/editors were not maintaining it anymore. Chairs had to appoint a new editor to close the work as the WG was interested to finish the work. Document Quality There is at least one known implementation. The document has been reviewed by some key experts of the working group. Personnel Stephane Litkowski is the document shepherd Martin Vigoureux is the responsible AD. 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Sure, will add the security consideration section. Neeraj On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 9:04 PM Anoop Ghanwani wrote: > The security considerations section is empty. Is it possible to have that > updated before the WGLC? > > I will try to review and provide more detailed comments. > > On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 12:58 AM wrote: > >> This email starts a two-week working group last call for >> draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 [1] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Please review the draft and send any comments to the BESS list. 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Hi,

Tha= nks Anoop. Sure, will add the security=C2=A0consideration section.

Neeraj

On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 9:04 PM Anoop Ghanwan= i <anoop@alumni.duke.edu>= ; wrote:
The security considerat= ions section is empty.=C2=A0 Is it=C2=A0possible to have that updated befor= e the WGLC?

I will try to review and provide more detail= ed comments.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2021 at 12:58 AM <slitkows.ietf@gmail.com> wr= ote:

This email starts a two-week working group last call for draft-ietf-bess-= evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 [1]

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Please review the draft and send any comments to the = BESS list. Also, please indicate if you support publishing the draft as a s= tandards track RFC.

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This poll runs until February 1st.<= /p>

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We are also polling for knowledge= of any undisclosed IPR that applies to this Document, to ensure that IPR h= as been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3= 669 and 5378 for more details).

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If you are list= ed as an Author or a Contributor of this document please respond to this em= ail and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant undisclosed I= PR. The Document won't progress without answers from all the Authors an= d Contributors.

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There is currently no IPR disc= losed.

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In addition, we are polling for knowledge of implementations of this d= raft, per the BESS policy in [2]. =C2=A0=C2=A0<= u>

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Thank you,=

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[1]=C2=A0= https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf= -bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility/

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On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 2:46 AM wrote: > Send BESS mailing list submissions to > bess@ietf.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > bess-request@ietf.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > bess-owner@ietf.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of BESS digest..." > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 (LINGALA, AVINASH) > 2. Re: WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 (UTTARO, JAMES) > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "LINGALA, AVINASH" > To: "slitkows.ietf@gmail.com" , "bess@ietf.org" < > bess@ietf.org> > Cc: "bess-chairs@ietf.org" > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 09:19:51 +0000 > Subject: Re: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 > > Hi, > > > > Support as co-author. Not aware of any undisclosed IPR. > > > > Thanks, > > Avinash > > > > *From: *BESS on behalf of "slitkows.ietf@gmail.com" > > *Date: *Monday, January 18, 2021 at 3:58 AM > *To: *"bess@ietf.org" > *Cc: *"bess-chairs@ietf.org" > *Subject: *[bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 > > > > This email starts a two-week working group last call for > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 [1] > > > > > > > > Please review the draft and send any comments to the BESS list. Also, > please indicate if you support publishing the draft as a standards track > RFC. > > > > > > > > This poll runs until February 1st. > > > > > > > > We are also polling for knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to > this Document, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with > IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > > > > If you are listed as an Author or a Contributor of this document please > respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any > relevant undisclosed IPR. The Document won't progress without answers from > all the Authors and Contributors. > > > > There is currently no IPR disclosed. > > > > In addition, we are polling for knowledge of implementations of this > draft, per the BESS policy in [2]. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Matthew & Stephane > > > > [1] > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility/ > > > [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw > > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "UTTARO, JAMES" > To: "LINGALA, AVINASH" , "slitkows.ietf@gmail.com" < > slitkows.ietf@gmail.com>, "bess@ietf.org" > Cc: "bess-chairs@ietf.org" > Bcc: > Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2021 10:45:37 +0000 > Subject: Re: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 > > *Support* > > > > *Thanks,* > > * Jim Uttaro* > > > > *From:* BESS *On Behalf Of * LINGALA, AVINASH > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2021 4:20 AM > *To:* slitkows.ietf@gmail.com; bess@ietf.org > *Cc:* bess-chairs@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 > > > > ****Security Advisory:* This Message Originated Outside of AT&T *** > Reference http://cso.att.com/EmailSecurity/IDSP.html for more information. > > Hi, > > > > Support as co-author. Not aware of any undisclosed IPR. > > > > Thanks, > > Avinash > > > > *From: *BESS on behalf of "slitkows.ietf@gmail.com" > > *Date: *Monday, January 18, 2021 at 3:58 AM > *To: *"bess@ietf.org" > *Cc: *"bess-chairs@ietf.org" > *Subject: *[bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 > > > > This email starts a two-week working group last call for > draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 [1] > > > > > > > > Please review the draft and send any comments to the BESS list. 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The Document won't progress without answers from > all the Authors and Contributors. > > > > There is currently no IPR disclosed. > > > > In addition, we are polling for knowledge of implementations of this > draft, per the BESS policy in [2]. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Matthew & Stephane > > > > [1] > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility/ > > > [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw > > > > _______________________________________________ > BESS mailing list > BESS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess > -- Regards, Mitesh --0000000000003bf2a505ba628e68 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I support this draft.

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To:=C2=A0"slitkows.ietf@gmail.com" <slitkows.ietf@gmail.c= om>, "bess@i= etf.org" <be= ss@ietf.org>
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Subject:=C2=A0Re: [b= ess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb= -extended-mobility-01

Hi,

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Support as co-author. Not aware of any undisclosed IPR.

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Thanks,

Avinash

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From: = BESS <bess-bounces@ietf.org>= ; on behalf of "slitkows.ietf@gmail.com" <slitkows.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, January 18, 2021 at 3:58 AM
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Subject: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-= ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01

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This email starts a tw= o-week working group last call for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobili= ty-01 [1]

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Please review the draf= t and send any comments to the BESS list. Also, please indicate if you supp= ort publishing the draft as a standards track RFC.

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This poll runs until F= ebruary 1st.

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We are also polling fo= r knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to this Document, to ensure= that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 39= 79, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

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Thank you,

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Matthew & Stephane=

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Thanks,

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From: = BESS <bess-bounces@ietf.org>= ; on behalf of "slitkows.ietf@gmail.com" <slitkows.= ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Monday, January 18, 2021 at 3:58 AM
To: "bess@ie= tf.org" <bes= s@ietf.org>
Cc: "= bess-chairs@ietf.org" <bess-chairs@ietf.org>
Subject: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-= ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01

=C2=A0

This email starts a tw= o-week working group last call for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobili= ty-01 [1]

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=C2=A0

=C2=A0

Please review the draf= t and send any comments to the BESS list. Also, please indicate if you supp= ort publishing the draft as a standards track RFC.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

This poll runs until F= ebruary 1st.

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

We are also polling fo= r knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to this Document, to ensure= that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 39= 79, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details).

=C2=A0

If you are listed as a= n Author or a Contributor of this document please respond to this email and= indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant undisclosed IPR. The= Document won't progress without answers from all the Authors and Contributors.

=C2=A0

There is currently no = IPR disclosed.

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In addition, we are poll= ing for knowledge of implementations of this draft, per the BESS policy in [2]. =C2= =A0=C2=A0

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=C2=A0

Thank you,

=C2=A0

Matthew & Stephane=

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[1]=C2= =A0https://datatra= cker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility/

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Regards, Jakob. From: BESS On Behalf Of slitkows.ietf@gmail.com Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 12:58 AM To: bess@ietf.org Cc: bess-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-ietf-be= ss-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 This email starts a two-week working group last call for draft-ietf-bess-ev= pn-irb-extended-mobility-01 [1] Please review the draft and send any comments to the BESS list. Also, pleas= e indicate if you support publishing the draft as a standards track RFC. This poll runs until February 1st. We are also polling for knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to th= is Document, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF = IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). If you are listed as an Author or a Contributor of this document please res= pond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevan= t undisclosed IPR. 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I support.

 

Regards,

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Sent: Monday, January 18, 2021 12:58 AM
To: bess@ietf.org
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Subject: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-= ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01

 

This email starts a two-week working group last c= all for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 [1]

 

 

 

Please review the draft and send any comments to = the BESS list. Also, please indicate if you support publishing the draft as= a standards track RFC.

 

 

 

This poll runs until February 1st.

 

 

 

We are also polling for knowledge of any undisclo= sed IPR that applies to this Document, to ensure that IPR has been disclose= d in compliance with IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for= more details).

 

If you are listed as an Author or a Contributor o= f this document please respond to this email and indicate whether or not yo= u are aware of any relevant undisclosed IPR. The Document won't progress wi= thout answers from all the Authors and Contributors.

 

There is currently no IPR disclosed.

 

In addition, we are polling for knowledge of implementations of this draft, per t= he BESS policy in [2].   

 

 

Thank you,

 

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[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobil= ity/

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Regards, Muthu On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 3:26 AM Gyan Mishra wrote: > Muthu > > How does RFa. 6286 AS wide BGP identifier change the BGP path selection > process when all attributes are equal and =E2=80=98bestpath compare-route= rid=E2=80=9D is > uses so the valid/best path is deterministic and oldest versus newest > default. > The AS wide BGP identifier shouldn't change the BGP path selection process in this case, since you compare by converting them to host byte order and treating them as 4-octet unsigned integers as per RFC4271. > > > I believe the BGP Identifier just as with OSPF or ISIS does not have to b= e > routable, so in an IPv6 only network precluding RFC 6286 I believe could > you still use a 4 octet IP address as the router-id. > Right. However, if we preclude RFC6286, then the BGP identifier needs to be a valid unicast host IPv4 address (for e.g. can't be a multicast address): Syntactic correctness means that the BGP Identifier field represents a valid unicast IP host address. > > > This question comes up a lot these days as operations migrate to some > flavor of IPv6 only core MPLS LDPv6, SR-MPLSv6, SRv6. > > > Thanks > > Gyan > On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:45 AM Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal < > muthu.arul@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Tulasi, >> >> In pure IPv6 networks, I think using the BGP identifier in place of the >> IP address part in the type 1 RD should suffice for all practical purpos= es. >> The only catch is, if it is an AS-wide unique BGP identifier [RFC6286], >> then it is not an IP address 'per se'. But, I think it makes no differen= ce >> from an interoperability standpoint.. >> >> Perhaps, in line with RFC6286, we should redefine the IP address part of >> the type 1 RD as just a 4-octet, unsigned, non-zero integer.. >> >> Regards, >> Muthu >> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 11:31 AM TULASI RAM REDDY < >> tulasiramireddy@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> In a pure IPv6 network, how do one expect to construct the Type 1 RD. >>> As per EVPN RFC 7432 for EAD per ES, it should be Type 1 RD, but if the >>> loopback address is only IPv6 then what is the expectation here? >>> Should we use BGP router ID(32bit) here? >>> >>> From RFC7432: EVPN >>> >>> 8.2.1 . Constructin= g Ethernet A-D per Ethernet Segment Route >>> >>> The Route Distinguisher (RD) MUST be a Type 1 RD [RFC4364 ]. The >>> *value field comprises an IP address of the PE (typically, the >>> loopback address)* followed by a number unique to the PE. >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> TULASI RAMI REDDY N >>> _______________________________________________ >>> BESS mailing list >>> BESS@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Idr mailing list >> Idr@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr >> > -- > > > > *Gyan Mishra* > > *Network Solutions A**rchitect * > > > > *M 301 502-134713101 Columbia Pike *Silver Spring, MD > > --000000000000c900b705ba67bf60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Gyan,

Please see inline..
Regards,
Mu= thu

On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 3:26 AM Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> wrote:
Muthu=C2=A0

How does RFa. 6286 AS wide BGP = identifier change the BGP path selection process when all attributes are eq= ual and =E2=80=98bestpath compare-routerid=E2=80=9D is uses so the valid/be= st path is deterministic and oldest versus newest default.
The AS wide BGP identifi= er shouldn't change the BGP path selection process in this case, since = you compare by converting them to host byte order and treating them as 4-oc= tet unsigned integers as per RFC4271.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0

I believe the BGP Identifier jus= t as with OSPF or ISIS does not have to be routable, so in an IPv6 only net= work precluding RFC 6286 I believe could you still use a 4 octet IP address= as the router-id.

Right. However, if we preclude RFC6286, then the BGP identifier needs to b= e a valid unicast host IPv4 address (for e.g. can't be a multicast addr= ess):

<snip= =20 RFC4271>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Syntactic correctness mean= s that the BGP Identifier field represents
=C2=A0 =C2=A0a valid unicast = IP host address.
</snip>=C2=A0
= =C2=A0
=C2=A0

This questio= n comes up a lot these days as operations migrate to some flavor of IPv6 on= ly core MPLS LDPv6, SR-MPLSv6, SRv6.


Thanks=C2=A0

Gyan=C2=A0
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021= at 5:45 AM Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal <muthu.arul@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi= Tulasi,

In pure IPv6 networks, I think using the BGP identifier in pla= ce of the IP address part in the type 1 RD should suffice for all practical= =C2=A0purposes. The only catch is, if it is an=C2=A0AS-wide unique BGP iden= tifier [RFC6286], then it is not an IP address 'per se'. But, I thi= nk it makes no difference from an interoperability=C2=A0standpoint..
Perhaps, in line with RFC6286, we should redefine the IP address part of = the type 1 RD as just a=C2=A04-octet, unsigned, non-zero integer..

<= /div>
= Regards,
Muthu

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 11:3= 1 AM TULASI RAM REDDY <tulasiramireddy@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,
<= div>
In a pure IPv6 network, how do one expect to construct t= he Type 1 RD.
As per EVPN RFC 7432 for EAD per ES, it should be T= ype 1 RD, but if the loopback address is only IPv6 then what is the expecta= tion here?
Should we use BGP router ID(32bit) here?
=

From RFC7432: EVPN

8.2.1. Con= structing Ethernet A-D per Ethernet Segment Route

   The Route Distinguisher (RD) MUST b=
e a Type 1 RD [RFC4364].  The
   value field comprises an IP address o=
f the PE (typically, the
   loopback address) followed by a number unique to the PE.

Thanks,
TULASI RAM= I REDDY N
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--00000000000076e38805ba6bb0c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not sure, it was just a question..will let Gyan comment if there are devices out there that don't support RFC6286.. Regards, Muthu On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 11:21 AM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) wrote: > Why preclude RFC 6286 ? > > > > Regards, > > Jakob. > > > > *From:* Idr *On Behalf Of * Muthu Arul Mozhi > Perumal > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2021 9:21 PM > *To:* Gyan Mishra > *Cc:* TULASI RAM REDDY ; bess@ietf.org; > idr@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Idr] [bess] Type 1 RD for Pure IPv6 network -- EVPN > > > > Hi Gyan, > > > > Please see inline.. > > Regards, > > Muthu > > > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 3:26 AM Gyan Mishra wrote= : > > Muthu > > > > How does RFa. 6286 AS wide BGP identifier change the BGP path selection > process when all attributes are equal and =E2=80=98bestpath compare-route= rid=E2=80=9D is > uses so the valid/best path is deterministic and oldest versus newest > default. > > The AS wide BGP identifier shouldn't change the BGP path selection proces= s > in this case, since you compare by converting them to host byte order and > treating them as 4-octet unsigned integers as per RFC4271. > > > > > > > > I believe the BGP Identifier just as with OSPF or ISIS does not have to b= e > routable, so in an IPv6 only network precluding RFC 6286 I believe could > you still use a 4 octet IP address as the router-id. > > > > Right. However, if we preclude RFC6286, then the BGP identifier needs to > be a valid unicast host IPv4 address (for e.g. can't be a multicast > address): > > > > > > Syntactic correctness means that the BGP Identifier field represents > a valid unicast IP host address. > > > > > > > > > > This question comes up a lot these days as operations migrate to some > flavor of IPv6 only core MPLS LDPv6, SR-MPLSv6, SRv6. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Gyan > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:45 AM Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal < > muthu.arul@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Tulasi, > > > In pure IPv6 networks, I think using the BGP identifier in place of the I= P > address part in the type 1 RD should suffice for all practical purposes. > The only catch is, if it is an AS-wide unique BGP identifier [RFC6286], > then it is not an IP address 'per se'. But, I think it makes no differenc= e > from an interoperability standpoint.. > > Perhaps, in line with RFC6286, we should redefine the IP address part of > the type 1 RD as just a 4-octet, unsigned, non-zero integer.. > > Regards, > > Muthu > > > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 11:31 AM TULASI RAM REDDY < > tulasiramireddy@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > In a pure IPv6 network, how do one expect to construct the Type 1 RD. > > As per EVPN RFC 7432 for EAD per ES, it should be Type 1 RD, but if the > loopback address is only IPv6 then what is the expectation here? > > Should we use BGP router ID(32bit) here? > > > > From RFC7432: EVPN > 8.2.1 . Constructing > Ethernet A-D per Ethernet Segment Route > > The Route Distinguisher (RD) MUST be a Type 1 RD [RFC4364 ]. The > > *value field comprises an IP address of the PE (typically, the* > > * loopback address)* followed by a number unique to the PE. > > > > Thanks, > > TULASI RAMI REDDY N > > _______________________________________________ > BESS mailing list > BESS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess > > _______________________________________________ > Idr mailing list > Idr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr > > -- > > > > *Gyan Mishra* > > *Network Solutions Architect * > > > > *M 301 502-1347 13101 Columbia Pike *Silver Spring, MD > > > > --00000000000076e38805ba6bb0c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not sure, it was just = a question..will let Gyan comment if there are devices out there that don&#= 39;t support RFC6286..

Regards,
Muthu

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 11:21 A= M Jakob Heitz (jheitz) <jheitz@cisco= .com> wrote:

W= hy preclude RFC 6286 ?

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R= egards,

J= akob.

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From: Idr <idr-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal
Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2021 9:21 PM
To: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
Cc: TULASI RAM REDDY <tulasiramireddy@gmail.com>; bess@ietf.org; idr@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Idr] [bess] Type 1 RD for Pure IPv6 network -- EVPN=

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Hi Gyan,

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Please see inline..

Regards,

Muthu

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On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 3:26 AM Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.co= m> wrote:

Muthu=C2=A0

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How does RFa. 6286 AS wide BGP identifier change the= BGP path selection process when all attributes are equal and =E2=80=98best= path compare-routerid=E2=80=9D is uses so the valid/best path is determinis= tic and oldest versus newest default.

The AS wide BGP identifier shouldn't change the BGP path select= ion process in this case, since you compare by converting them to host byte= order and treating them as 4-octet unsigned integers as per RFC4271.

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I believe the BGP Identifier just as with OSPF or IS= IS does not have to be routable, so in an IPv6 only network precluding RFC = 6286 I believe could you still use a 4 octet IP address as the router-id.

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Right. However, if we preclude RFC6286, then the BGP identifier nee= ds to be a valid unicast host IPv4 address (for e.g. can't be a multica= st address):

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On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:45 AM Muthu Arul Mozhi Per= umal <muthu.ar= ul@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Tulasi,


In pure IPv6 networks, I think using the BGP identifier in place of the IP = address part in the type 1 RD should suffice for all practical=C2=A0purpose= s. The only catch is, if it is an=C2=A0AS-wide unique BGP identifier [RFC62= 86], then it is not an IP address 'per se'. But, I think it makes no difference from an interoperability=C2=A0standpoi= nt..

Perhaps, in line with RFC6286, we shou= ld redefine the IP address part of the type 1 RD as just a=C2=A04-octet, un= signed, non-zero integer..

Regards,

Muthu

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On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 11:31 AM TULASI RAM REDDY &l= t;tulasirami= reddy@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,

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In a pure IPv6 network, how do one expect to constru= ct the Type 1 RD.

As per EVPN RFC 7432 for EAD per ES, it should be Ty= pe 1 RD, but if the loopback address is only IPv6 then what is the expectat= ion here?

Should we use BGP router ID(32bit) here?

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From RFC7432: EVPN

8.2.= 1.=C2=A0 Constructing Ethernet A-D per Ethernet Segment Route<= /h4>

=C2=A0=C2=A0 The Route Distinguisher (RD) MUST be a Type 1 RD [RFC4364].=C2=A0 The
=C2=A0=C2=A0 value field comprises an IP address of the PE (typical=
ly, the
=C2=A0=C2=A0 loopback address) followed by a number unique to t=
he PE.

=C2=A0

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I see in the remarks that the BGP identifier is to use RFC 4271 process for path selection resolution. In the route selection, where the BGP Identifier is not used in comparing a route from an internal neighbor and a route from an external neighbor. In addition, routes from BGP speakers with identical BGP Identifiers have been dealt with (e.g., parallel BGP sessions between two BGP speakers). When you are comparing two paths with the same router-id and you convert to host byte order and treat as unsigned integer per RFC 4271 can you give an example of how that would work. I am not following the verbiage. If the BGP identifier is the same AS wide would the host byte order be the same for each BGP speaker? The BGP Identifier of the local system is compared to the BGP Identifier of the remote system (as specified in the OPEN message). Comparing BGP Identifiers is done by converting them to host byte order and treating them as 4-octet unsigned integers. > >> >> I believe the BGP Identifier just as with OSPF or ISIS does not have to >> be routable, so in an IPv6 only network precluding RFC 6286 I believe co= uld >> you still use a 4 octet IP address as the router-id. >> > > Right. However, if we preclude RFC6286, then the BGP identifier needs to > be a valid unicast host IPv4 address (for e.g. can't be a multicast > address): > > > Syntactic correctness means that the BGP Identifier field represents > a valid unicast IP host address. > > > Gyan> I do see that verbiage in section 6.2 If the BGP Identifier field of the OPEN message is syntactically incorrect, then the Error Subcode MUST be set to Bad BGP Identifier. Syntactic correctness means that the BGP Identifier field represents a valid unicast IP host address. BGP with IGP call back NH tracker checks the NH but how does BGP code validate the RIB that the router-id is a connected loopback but and also advertised by IGP. I have not tried it but if you set a bogus router-id would all the BGP peers go down. I will try that in the lab. >> >> This question comes up a lot these days as operations migrate to some >> flavor of IPv6 only core MPLS LDPv6, SR-MPLSv6, SRv6. >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Gyan >> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:45 AM Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal < >> muthu.arul@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Tulasi, >>> >>> In pure IPv6 networks, I think using the BGP identifier in place of the >>> IP address part in the type 1 RD should suffice for all practical purpo= ses. >>> The only catch is, if it is an AS-wide unique BGP identifier [RFC6286], >>> then it is not an IP address 'per se'. But, I think it makes no differe= nce >>> from an interoperability standpoint.. >>> >>> Perhaps, in line with RFC6286, we should redefine the IP address part o= f >>> the type 1 RD as just a 4-octet, unsigned, non-zero integer.. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Muthu >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 11:31 AM TULASI RAM REDDY < >>> tulasiramireddy@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi All, >>>> >>>> In a pure IPv6 network, how do one expect to construct the Type 1 RD. >>>> As per EVPN RFC 7432 for EAD per ES, it should be Type 1 RD, but if th= e >>>> loopback address is only IPv6 then what is the expectation here? >>>> Should we use BGP router ID(32bit) here? >>>> >>>> From RFC7432: EVPN >>>> >>>> 8.2.1 . Constructi= ng Ethernet A-D per Ethernet Segment Route >>>> >>>> The Route Distinguisher (RD) MUST be a Type 1 RD [RFC4364 ]. The >>>> *value field comprises an IP address of the PE (typically, the >>>> loopback address)* followed by a number unique to the PE. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> TULASI RAMI REDDY N >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> BESS mailing list >>>> BESS@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Idr mailing list >>> Idr@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr >>> >> -- >> >> >> >> *Gyan Mishra* >> >> *Network Solutions A**rchitect * >> >> >> >> *M 301 502-134713101 Columbia Pike >> *Silver >> Spring, MD >> >> -- *Gyan Mishra* *Network Solutions A**rchitect * *M 301 502-134713101 Columbia Pike *Silver Spring, MD --000000000000cacd5105ba6f0e20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi=C2=A0Muthu

Please see in-line=C2=A0

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 12:20 AM Muth= u Arul Mozhi Perumal <muthu.arul= @gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Gyan,

<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif= ;font-size:small">Please see inline..
<= div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif= ;font-size:small">Regards,
Muthu

On Sat, Jan 30, 202= 1 at 3:26 AM Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> wrote:
Muthu=C2=A0

How does RFa. 6286 AS wide BGP identifier change the BGP path select= ion process when all attributes are equal and =E2=80=98bestpath compare-rou= terid=E2=80=9D is uses so the valid/best path is deterministic and oldest v= ersus newest default.
The AS wide BGP identifier shouldn't change the BGP path = selection process in this case, since you compare by converting them to hos= t byte order and treating them as 4-octet unsigned integers as per RFC4271.=

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Gyan> So with RFC 6286 the 4 octet unsi= gned could be any number from 1 to 4.2 billion.=C2=A0 I see in the remarks = that the BGP identifier is to use RFC 4271 process for path selection resol= ution.

     In the route selection, where=
 the BGP Identifier is not used in
     comparing a route from an internal neighbor and a route from an
     external neighbor.  In addition, routes from BGP speakers with
     identical BGP Identifiers have been dealt with (e.g., parallel BGP
     sessions between two BGP speakers).

When you are comparing two paths with the same router-id and you co= nvert to host byte order and treat as unsigned integer per RFC 4271 can you= give an example of how that would work.=C2=A0 I am not following the verbi= age.=C2=A0 If the BGP identifier is the same AS wide would the host byte or= der be the same for each BGP speaker?

         The B=
GP Identifier of the local system is compared to the BGP
         Identifier of the remote system (as specified in the OPEN
         message).  Comparing BGP Identifiers is done by converting them
         to host byte order and treating them as 4-octet unsigned
         integers.

= =C2=A0

I believe the BGP= Identifier just as with OSPF or ISIS does not have to be routable, so in a= n IPv6 only network precluding RFC 6286 I believe could you still use a 4 o= ctet IP address as the router-id.

Right. However, if we preclude RFC6286, then the BGP identi= fier needs to be a valid unicast host IPv4 address (for e.g. can't be a= multicast address):

<snip=20 RFC4271>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Syntactic correctness mean= s that the BGP Identifier field represents
=C2=A0 =C2=A0a valid unicast = IP host address.
</snip>=C2=A0
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X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2021 05:42:01 -0000 --0000000000007dcf0205ba7c298f Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 11:22 PM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) wrote: > > > Syntactic correctness means that the BGP Identifier field represents > a valid unicast IP host address. > > > > > > Gyan> I do see that verbiage in section 6.2 > > > > If the BGP Identifier field of the OPEN message is syntactically > > incorrect, then the Error Subcode MUST be set to Bad BGP Identifier. > > Syntactic correctness means that the BGP Identifier field represents > > a valid unicast IP host address. > > > > BGP with IGP call back NH tracker checks the NH but how does BGP code val= idate the RIB that the router-id is a connected loopback but > > and also advertised by IGP. I have not tried it but if you set a bogus r= outer-id would all the BGP peers go down. > > I will try that in the lab. > > > > IOS-XR does not have this check. Nothing breaks by violating this rule. > IOS-XR implements RFC 6286. > > I think you'll be hard pressed to find a router that checks this. > > Gyan> Agreed. That is exactly what I thought. I was going to try on IO= S > XR but you saved me some time and results as I expected. I will try test > RFC 6286 on XR. Have you tried doing IPv6 only peers on XR and with BGP > identifier set unique to 4 octet IP address and see if that works. I am > guessing it would work as XR does not have the check. > I am not crazy about the RFC 6286 AS wide BGP identifier with 4 octet unsigned non zero integer. Most operators are more comfortable having unique 4 octet IP address as BGP identifier and I think would much rather do that as long as the check does not exist as even with enabling RFC 6286 and having AS wide unique identifier seems odd and scary to me as normally the BGP identifier must always be unique within the domain or breaks BGP. dual stack edge over v6 core RFC 5565 is becoming more common for operators every day with SRv6 push and thus IPv6 only routers and running into this issue where now you have to enable RFC 6286. I am thinking it maybe well worthwhile to write a draft that updates RFC 4271 check as vendors don=E2=80=99t follow it anyway and as we all know not checking is not going to break anything and making so that for IPv6 only routers such as in a SRv6 core that the BGP identifier can remain a 4 octet IP and then operators now could keep the same unique BGP identifier IP you had on the router before you ripped it out of the core when transitioned to SRv6. > Regards, > > Jakob. > > > --=20 *Gyan Mishra* *Network Solutions A**rchitect * *M 301 502-134713101 Columbia Pike *Silver Spring, MD --0000000000007dcf0205ba7c298f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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=C2=A0 =C2=A0Syntactic correctness means that the BGP Identifier fi= eld represents
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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Gyan> I do see that verbiage = in section 6.2

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=C2=A0=C2=A0 If the BGP Identifier field of the OPEN message=
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=C2=A0=C2=A0 incorrect, then the Error Subcode MUST be set t=
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=C2=A0=C2=A0 Syntactic correctness means that the BGP Identi=
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BGP with IGP call back NH tracker checks t=
he NH but how does BGP code validate the RIB that the router-id is a connec=
ted loopback but
and also advertised by IGP.=C2=A0 I have n=
ot tried it but if you set a bogus router-id would all the BGP peers go dow=
n.
I will try that in the lab.

=C2=A0=

I= OS-XR does not have this check. Nothing breaks by violating this rule. IOS-= XR implements RFC 6286.

I= think you'll be hard pressed to find a router that checks this.=

=C2=A0Gyan> Agreed.=C2=A0 That is exactly what I thou= ght.=C2=A0 I was going to try on IOS XR but you saved me some time and resu= lts as I expected.=C2=A0 I will try test RFC 6286 on XR.=C2=A0 Have you tri= ed doing IPv6 only peers on XR and with BGP identifier set unique to 4 octe= t IP address and see if that works.=C2=A0 I am guessing it would work as XR= does not have the check. =C2=A0


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I = =C2=A0am not crazy about the RFC 6286 AS wide BGP identifier with 4 octet u= nsigned non zero integer.=C2=A0 Most operators are more comfortable having = unique 4 octet IP address as BGP identifier and I think would much rather d= o that as long as the check does not exist as even with enabling RFC 6286 a= nd having AS wide unique identifier seems odd and scary to me as normally t= he BGP identifier must always be unique within the domain or breaks BGP.

dual stack edge over v6 co= re RFC 5565 is becoming more common for operators every day with SRv6 push = and thus IPv6 only routers and running into this issue where now you have t= o enable RFC 6286.

I am = thinking it maybe well worthwhile to write a draft that updates RFC 4271 ch= eck as vendors don=E2=80=99t follow it anyway and as we all know not checki= ng is not going to break anything and making so that for IPv6 only routers = such as in a SRv6 core that the BGP identifier can remain a 4 octet IP and = then operators now could keep the same unique BGP identifier IP you had on = the router before you ripped it out of the core when transitioned to SRv6.<= /div>

R= egards,

J= akob.

<= u>=C2=A0

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The change at this point is to bring the terminology into line with that defined in the TEAS WG which has recently adopted draft-ietf-teas-ietf-network-slice-definition Reviews would be welcomed. Thanks, Adrian -----Original Message----- From: I-D-Announce On Behalf Of internet-drafts@ietf.org Sent: 04 February 2021 09:43 To: i-d-announce@ietf.org Subject: I-D Action: draft-drake-bess-enhanced-vpn-06.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. Title : BGP-LS Filters : A Framework for Network Slicing and Enhanced VPNs Authors : John Drake Adrian Farrel Luay Jalil Avinash Lingala Filename : draft-drake-bess-enhanced-vpn-06.txt Pages : 23 Date : 2021-02-04 Abstract: Future networks that support advanced services, such as those enabled by 5G mobile networks, envision a set of overlay networks each with different performance and scaling properties. These overlays are known as network slices and are realized over a common underlay network. In the context of IETF technologies, they are known as IETF network slices. In order to support IETF network slicing, as well as to offer enhanced VPN services in general, it is necessary to define a mechanism by which specific resources (links and/or nodes) of an underlay network can be used by a specific network slice, VPN, or set of VPNs. This document sets out such a mechanism for use in Segment Routing networks. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-drake-bess-enhanced-vpn/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-drake-bess-enhanced-vpn-06 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-drake-bess-enhanced-vpn-06 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-drake-bess-enhanced-vpn-06 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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SMTP id n23mr5743614otq.371.1612446827601; Thu, 04 Feb 2021 05:53:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: TULASI RAM REDDY Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 19:23:36 +0530 Message-ID: To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Cc: "Jakob Heitz (jheitz)" , Gyan Mishra , Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal , "bess@ietf.org" , "idr@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000060e2b005ba8308d1" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [bess] [Idr] Type 1 RD for Pure IPv6 network -- EVPN X-BeenThere: bess@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: BGP-Enabled ServiceS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Feb 2021 13:53:58 -0000 --00000000000060e2b005ba8308d1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, So, we can also assume the below "IP address of the PE" requirement for Type 1 RD of EAD per AS is not true in pure IPv6 only AS. This should be read as any AS wide unique 4-octet, unsigned, non-zero integer (similar to RFC6286). >From RFC7432: EVPN 8.2.1 . Constructing Ethernet A-D per Ethernet Segment Route The Route Distinguisher (RD) MUST be a Type 1 RD [RFC4364 ]. The *value field comprises an* IP address of the PE *(typically, the loopback address)* followed by a number unique to the PE. Thanks, Tulasi. On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 4:39 PM Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Gyan, > > Agree with Jakob. There is no reason for the BGP Identifier to be a uniqu= e > IPv4 address. Consider an IPv6 only AS. However, there is nothing > precluding you from using an IPv4 address if you are uncomfortable. > > > > Thanks, > Acee > > > > *From: *BESS on behalf of "Jakob Heitz (jheitz)" > > *Date: *Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 12:52 AM > *To: *Gyan Mishra > *Cc: *TULASI RAM REDDY , Muthu Arul Mozhi > Perumal , "bess@ietf.org" , IDR List > > *Subject: *Re: [bess] [Idr] Type 1 RD for Pure IPv6 network -- EVPN > > > > RFC 6286 already updates RFC 4271. > > Basically, RID is not unique. (ASN,RID) is unique. The only limitation on > RID is that RID !=3D 0. > > > > Regards, > > Jakob. > > > > *From:* Gyan Mishra > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 3, 2021 9:42 PM > *To:* Jakob Heitz (jheitz) > *Cc:* Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal ; TULASI RAM REDDY < > tulasiramireddy@gmail.com>; bess@ietf.org; idr@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Idr] [bess] Type 1 RD for Pure IPv6 network -- EVPN > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 11:22 PM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) > wrote: > > > > Syntactic correctness means that the BGP Identifier field represents > a valid unicast IP host address. > > > > > > Gyan> I do see that verbiage in section 6.2 > > > > If the BGP Identifier field of the OPEN message is syntactically > > incorrect, then the Error Subcode MUST be set to Bad BGP Identifier. > > Syntactic correctness means that the BGP Identifier field represents > > a valid unicast IP host address. > > > > BGP with IGP call back NH tracker checks the NH but how does BGP code val= idate the RIB that the router-id is a connected loopback but > > and also advertised by IGP. I have not tried it but if you set a bogus r= outer-id would all the BGP peers go down. > > I will try that in the lab. > > > > IOS-XR does not have this check. Nothing breaks by violating this rule. > IOS-XR implements RFC 6286. > > I think you'll be hard pressed to find a router that checks this. > > Gyan> Agreed. That is exactly what I thought. I was going to try on IO= S > XR but you saved me some time and results as I expected. I will try test > RFC 6286 on XR. Have you tried doing IPv6 only peers on XR and with BGP > identifier set unique to 4 octet IP address and see if that works. I am > guessing it would work as XR does not have the check. > > > > I am not crazy about the RFC 6286 AS wide BGP identifier with 4 octe= t > unsigned non zero integer. Most operators are more comfortable having > unique 4 octet IP address as BGP identifier and I think would much rather > do that as long as the check does not exist as even with enabling RFC 628= 6 > and having AS wide unique identifier seems odd and scary to me as normall= y > the BGP identifier must always be unique within the domain or breaks BGP. > > > > dual stack edge over v6 core RFC 5565 is becoming more common for > operators every day with SRv6 push and thus IPv6 only routers and running > into this issue where now you have to enable RFC 6286. > > > > I am thinking it maybe well worthwhile to write a draft that updates RFC > 4271 check as vendors don=E2=80=99t follow it anyway and as we all know n= ot > checking is not going to break anything and making so that for IPv6 only > routers such as in a SRv6 core that the BGP identifier can remain a 4 oct= et > IP and then operators now could keep the same unique BGP identifier IP yo= u > had on the router before you ripped it out of the core when transitioned = to > SRv6. > > Regards, > > Jakob. > > > > -- > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > > *Gyan Mishra* > > *Network Solutions Architect * > > > > *M 301 502-1347 13101 Columbia Pike *Silver Spring, MD > > > --=20 TULASI RAMI REDDY N --00000000000060e2b005ba8308d1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

What I am uncomfortable as an operator with is= the AS wide BGP identifier on every core router using the RFC 6286 knob fo= r the SRv6 use case.=C2=A0 If we could continue to use unique IPv4 address = =C2=A0on every core router in the SRv6 IPv6 only core use case I would be m= ore comfortable then using the RFC 6286 knob.

Kind Regards=C2=A0

<= div dir=3D"auto">Gyan
Hi All,

So, we can also assume the below &quo= t;IP address of the PE" requirement for Type 1 RD of EAD per AS
is not true in pure IPv6 only AS.
This should be re= ad as any AS wide unique 4-octet, unsigned, non-zero integer (similar to RF= C6286).=C2=A0

>From RFC7432: EVPN

8.2.1 <htt=
ps://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7432#section-8.2.1>.
Constructing Ethernet A-D per Ethernet Segment Route

   The Route Distinguisher (RD) MUST be a Type 1 RD [RFC4364
<https://tools.ietf.org/=
html/rfc4364>].  The
   *value field comprises an IP address of the PE (typically, the
   loopback address)* followed by a number unique to the PE.
Thanks,
Tulasi.

= On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 4:39 PM Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi Gyan,

Agree with Jakob. There is no reason for the BGP Ide= ntifier to be a unique IPv4 address. Consider an IPv6 only AS. However, the= re is nothing precluding you from using an IPv4 address if you are uncomfor= table.

=C2=A0

Thanks,
Acee

=C2=A0

From: BESS <bess-bounces@ietf.org>= ; on behalf of "Jakob Heitz (jheitz)" <jheitz=3D40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.or= g>
Date: Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 12:52 AM
To: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
Cc: TULASI RAM REDDY <tulasiramireddy@gmail.com>, Muthu Arul Mozhi Per= umal <muthu.ar= ul@gmail.com>, "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>, IDR List <idr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [bess] [Idr] Type 1 RD for Pure IPv6 network -- EVPN=

=C2=A0

RFC 6286 already updates RFC 4271.=

Basically, RID is not unique. (ASN,RID) is uniqu= e. The only limitation on RID is that RID !=3D 0.

=C2=A0

Regards,

Jakob.

=C2=A0

From: Gyan Mishra= <hayabusagsm= @gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 9:42 PM
To: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) <jheitz@cisco.com>
Cc: Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal <muthu.arul@gmail.com>; TULASI RAM REDDY <<= a href=3D"mailto:tulasiramireddy@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tulasiramired= dy@gmail.com>; be= ss@ietf.org; idr@ietf= .org
Subject: Re: [Idr] [bess] Type 1 RD for Pure IPv6 network -- EVPN=

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 1= 1:22 PM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) <jheitz@cisco.com> wrote:

<= ;snip RFC4271>

=C2= =A0 =C2=A0Syntactic correctness means that the BGP Identifier field represe= nts
=C2=A0 =C2=A0a valid unicast IP host address.

<= ;/snip>=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Gyan> I do see that verbiage in section 6.2

=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 If the BGP Identifier field of the OPEN message is syntactically=
=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 incorrect, then the Error Subcode MUST be set to Bad BGP Identifier.
=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 Syntactic correctness means that the BGP Identifier field represents
=C2=A0=C2=
=A0 a valid unicast IP host address.
=C2=A0
BGP with IGP call back NH tracker checks the NH but how does BGP cod=
e validate the RIB that the router-id is a connected loopback but=
and also advertised by IGP.=C2=A0 I have not tried it but if you set=
 a bogus router-id would all the BGP peers go down.
I will try that in the lab.

=C2=A0

IOS-XR does not have thi= s check. Nothing breaks by violating this rule. IOS-XR implements RFC 6286.=

I think you'll be ha= rd pressed to find a router that checks this.

=C2=A0Gyan> Agreed.= =C2=A0 That is exactly what I thought.=C2=A0 I was going to try on IOS XR b= ut you saved me some time and results as I expected.=C2=A0 I will try test = RFC 6286 on XR.=C2=A0 Have you tried doing IPv6 only peers on XR and with BGP identifier set unique to 4 octet IP address and see if that works= .=C2=A0 I am guessing it would work as XR does not have the check. =C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I =C2=A0am= not crazy about the RFC 6286 AS wide BGP identifier with 4 octet unsigned = non zero integer.=C2=A0 Most operators are more comfortable having unique 4= octet IP address as BGP identifier and I think would much rather do that as long as the check does not exist as even with enabling R= FC 6286 and having AS wide unique identifier seems odd and scary to me as n= ormally the BGP identifier must always be unique within the domain or break= s BGP.

=C2=A0

dual stack edge over v6 = core RFC 5565 is becoming more common for operators every day with SRv6 pus= h and thus IPv6 only routers and running into this issue where now you have= to enable RFC 6286.

=C2=A0

I am thinking it maybe w= ell worthwhile to write a draft that updates RFC 4271 check as vendors don= =E2=80=99t follow it anyway and as we all know not checking is not going to= break anything and making so that for IPv6 only routers such as in a SRv6 core that the BGP identifier can remain a 4 octe= t IP and then operators now could keep the same unique BGP identifier IP yo= u had on the router before you ripped it out of the core when transitioned = to SRv6.

Regards,

Jakob.<= /u>

=C2=A0<= /u>

--

3D"Image

Gya= n Mishra

Networ= k Solutions Architect=C2=A0

M 301 = 502-1347
13101 Columbia Pike=C2=A0
Silver Spring, MD

=C2=A0



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TULASI RAMI REDDY N
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Hi All,

As mentioned = in the Problem Statement of RFC8584 Sec 1.3, Default DF algorithm is expect= ed to have
all multihomed PEs to have Originating IP of the = same address family.
Do we see any interop issue if the different= address families are considered, i.e. ordering in
ascending ord= er based on numerical value in Originating IP here? For IPv4 read 4 octets = as unsigned integer
and IPv6 is considered as 16 octet unsig= ned integer.

1.3. Problem Statement

Default DF election algorithm assumes
that all the PEs who are multihomed to the same ES (and interested in
the DF election by exchanging EVPN routes) use an Originating
Router's IP address [RFC7432] of the same fa=
mily.

Thanks,
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What I am uncomfortable as an operator with is the AS wide BGP identifier on every core router using the RFC 6286 knob for the SRv6 use case. If we could continue to use unique IPv4 address on every core router in the SRv6 IPv6 only core use case I would be more comfortable then using the RFC 6286 knob. Kind Regards Gyan On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 6:09 AM Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > Hi Gyan, > > Agree with Jakob. There is no reason for the BGP Identifier to be a uniqu= e > IPv4 address. Consider an IPv6 only AS. However, there is nothing > precluding you from using an IPv4 address if you are uncomfortable. > > > > Thanks, > Acee > > > > *From: *BESS on behalf of "Jakob Heitz (jheitz)" > > *Date: *Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 12:52 AM > *To: *Gyan Mishra > > *Cc: *TULASI RAM REDDY , Muthu Arul Mozhi > Perumal , "bess@ietf.org" , IDR List > > *Subject: *Re: [bess] [Idr] Type 1 RD for Pure IPv6 network -- EVPN > > > > RFC 6286 already updates RFC 4271. > > Basically, RID is not unique. (ASN,RID) is unique. The only limitation on > RID is that RID !=3D 0. > > > > Regards, > > Jakob. > > > > *From:* Gyan Mishra > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 3, 2021 9:42 PM > *To:* Jakob Heitz (jheitz) > *Cc:* Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal ; TULASI RAM REDDY < > tulasiramireddy@gmail.com>; bess@ietf.org; idr@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [Idr] [bess] Type 1 RD for Pure IPv6 network -- EVPN > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 11:22 PM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) > wrote: > > > > Syntactic correctness means that the BGP Identifier field represents > a valid unicast IP host address. > > > > > > Gyan> I do see that verbiage in section 6.2 > > > > If the BGP Identifier field of the OPEN message is syntactically > > incorrect, then the Error Subcode MUST be set to Bad BGP Identifier. > > Syntactic correctness means that the BGP Identifier field represents > > a valid unicast IP host address. > > > > BGP with IGP call back NH tracker checks the NH but how does BGP code val= idate the RIB that the router-id is a connected loopback but > > and also advertised by IGP. I have not tried it but if you set a bogus r= outer-id would all the BGP peers go down. > > I will try that in the lab. > > > > IOS-XR does not have this check. Nothing breaks by violating this rule. > IOS-XR implements RFC 6286. > > I think you'll be hard pressed to find a router that checks this. > > Gyan> Agreed. That is exactly what I thought. I was going to try on IO= S > XR but you saved me some time and results as I expected. I will try test > RFC 6286 on XR. Have you tried doing IPv6 only peers on XR and with BGP > identifier set unique to 4 octet IP address and see if that works. I am > guessing it would work as XR does not have the check. > > > > I am not crazy about the RFC 6286 AS wide BGP identifier with 4 octe= t > unsigned non zero integer. Most operators are more comfortable having > unique 4 octet IP address as BGP identifier and I think would much rather > do that as long as the check does not exist as even with enabling RFC 628= 6 > and having AS wide unique identifier seems odd and scary to me as normall= y > the BGP identifier must always be unique within the domain or breaks BGP. > > > > dual stack edge over v6 core RFC 5565 is becoming more common for > operators every day with SRv6 push and thus IPv6 only routers and running > into this issue where now you have to enable RFC 6286. > > > > I am thinking it maybe well worthwhile to write a draft that updates RFC > 4271 check as vendors don=E2=80=99t follow it anyway and as we all know n= ot > checking is not going to break anything and making so that for IPv6 only > routers such as in a SRv6 core that the BGP identifier can remain a 4 oct= et > IP and then operators now could keep the same unique BGP identifier IP yo= u > had on the router before you ripped it out of the core when transitioned = to > SRv6. > > Regards, > > Jakob. > > > > -- > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > > *Gyan Mishra* > > *Network Solutions Architect * > > > > *M 301 502-1347 13101 Columbia Pike > > *Silver Spring, MD > > > --=20 *Gyan Mishra* *Network Solutions A**rchitect * *M 301 502-134713101 Columbia Pike *Silver Spring, MD --00000000000005cc8405ba83e58f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Acee

<= div dir=3D"auto">Understood the uniqueness by ASN,RID per RFC 6286 AS wide = BGP identifier for the IPv6 only SRv6 core use case.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 6:09 AM Acee Lindem (acee)= <acee@cisco.com> wrote:

Hi Gyan,

Agree with Jakob. There is no reason for the BGP Ide= ntifier to be a unique IPv4 address. Consider an IPv6 only AS. However, the= re is nothing precluding you from using an IPv4 address if you are uncomfor= table.

=C2=A0

Thanks,
Acee

=C2=A0

From: BESS <bess-bounces@ietf.org>= ; on behalf of "Jakob Heitz (jheitz)" <jheitz=3D40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.or= g>
Date: Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 12:52 AM
To: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>

<= b>Cc: TULASI RAM REDDY <tulasiramireddy@gmail.com>, Muthu Arul Mozhi Peru= mal <muthu.aru= l@gmail.com>, "bess@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org>, IDR List <idr@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [bess] [Idr] Type 1 RD for Pure IPv6 network -- EVPN=

=C2=A0

RFC 6286 already updates RFC 4271.=

Basically, RID is not unique. (ASN,RID) is uniqu= e. The only limitation on RID is that RID !=3D 0.

=C2=A0

Regards,

Jakob.

=C2=A0

From: Gyan Mishra= <hayabusagsm= @gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 9:42 PM
To: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) <jheitz@cisco.com>
Cc: Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal <muthu.arul@gmail.com>; TULASI RAM REDDY <<= a href=3D"mailto:tulasiramireddy@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tulasiramired= dy@gmail.com>; be= ss@ietf.org; idr@ietf= .org
Subject: Re: [Idr] [bess] Type 1 RD for Pure IPv6 network -- EVPN=

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On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 1= 1:22 PM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) <jheitz@cisco.com> wrote:

<snip RFC427= 1>

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Sy= ntactic correctness means that the BGP Identifier field represents
=C2=A0 =C2=A0a valid unicast IP host address.

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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Gyan> I do see that verbiage in section 6.2

=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0 If the BGP Identifier field o=
f the OPEN message is syntactically
=C2=A0=C2=A0 incorrect, then the Error Sub=
code MUST be set to Bad BGP Identifier.
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Syntactic correctness means t=
hat the BGP Identifier field represents
=C2=A0=C2=A0 a valid unicast IP host addre=
ss.
=C2=A0
BGP with IGP call back N=
H tracker checks the NH but how does BGP code validate the RIB that the rou=
ter-id is a connected loopback but
and also advertised by I=
GP.=C2=A0 I have not tried it but if you set a bogus router-id would all th=
e BGP peers go down.
I will try that in the l=
ab.

=C2=A0

IOS-XR does not have thi= s check. Nothing breaks by violating this rule. IOS-XR implements RFC 6286.=

I think you'll be ha= rd pressed to find a router that checks this.

=C2=A0Gyan> Agreed.= =C2=A0 That is exactly what I thought.=C2=A0 I was going to try on IOS XR b= ut you saved me some time and results as I expected.=C2=A0 I will try test = RFC 6286 on XR.=C2=A0 Have you tried doing IPv6 only peers on XR and with BGP identifier set unique to 4 octet IP address and see if that works= .=C2=A0 I am guessing it would work as XR does not have the check. =C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I =C2=A0am= not crazy about the RFC 6286 AS wide BGP identifier with 4 octet unsigned = non zero integer.=C2=A0 Most operators are more comfortable having unique 4= octet IP address as BGP identifier and I think would much rather do that as long as the check does not exist as even with enabling R= FC 6286 and having AS wide unique identifier seems odd and scary to me as n= ormally the BGP identifier must always be unique within the domain or break= s BGP.

=C2=A0

dual stack edge over v6 = core RFC 5565 is becoming more common for operators every day with SRv6 pus= h and thus IPv6 only routers and running into this issue where now you have= to enable RFC 6286.

=C2=A0

I am thinking it maybe w= ell worthwhile to write a draft that updates RFC 4271 check as vendors don= =E2=80=99t follow it anyway and as we all know not checking is not going to= break anything and making so that for IPv6 only routers such as in a SRv6 core that the BGP identifier can remain a 4 octe= t IP and then operators now could keep the same unique BGP identifier IP yo= u had on the router before you ripped it out of the core when transitioned = to SRv6.

Regards,

Jakob.<= /u>

=C2=A0<= /u>

--

3D"Image

<= /div>

Gyan Mishra

Network Solutions = Architect=C2=A0

M 301 502-1347
13101 Columbia Pik= e=C2=A0
Silver Spring, MD

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X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2021 00:23:46 -0000 --00000000000022e72605ba8bd5f9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was thinking a CLI knob but RFC 6286 updates RFC 4271 which sounds like new default behavior change with a upgrade. Kind Regards Gyan On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 11:16 AM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) wrote: > There's no knob for RFC 6286. RID cannot be assumed to be unique across > ASes. Period. Well, unless you have control over all the ASes. What do yo= u > mean by the knob exactly? > > Regards, > Jakob. > > > On Feb 4, 2021, at 6:55 AM, Gyan Mishra wrote: > > =EF=BB=BF > > > Hi Acee > > Understood the uniqueness by ASN,RID per RFC 6286 AS wide BGP identifier > for the IPv6 only SRv6 core use case. > > What I am uncomfortable as an operator with is the AS wide BGP identifier > on every core router using the RFC 6286 knob for the SRv6 use case. If w= e > could continue to use unique IPv4 address on every core router in the SR= v6 > IPv6 only core use case I would be more comfortable then using the RFC 62= 86 > knob. > > Kind Regards > > Gyan > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 6:09 AM Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > >> Hi Gyan, >> >> Agree with Jakob. There is no reason for the BGP Identifier to be a >> unique IPv4 address. Consider an IPv6 only AS. However, there is nothing >> precluding you from using an IPv4 address if you are uncomfortable. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> Acee >> >> >> >> *From: *BESS on behalf of "Jakob Heitz (jheitz)" >> >> *Date: *Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 12:52 AM >> *To: *Gyan Mishra >> >> *Cc: *TULASI RAM REDDY , Muthu Arul Mozhi >> Perumal , "bess@ietf.org" , IDR >> List >> *Subject: *Re: [bess] [Idr] Type 1 RD for Pure IPv6 network -- EVPN >> >> >> >> RFC 6286 already updates RFC 4271. >> >> Basically, RID is not unique. (ASN,RID) is unique. The only limitation o= n >> RID is that RID !=3D 0. >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> Jakob. >> >> >> >> *From:* Gyan Mishra >> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 3, 2021 9:42 PM >> *To:* Jakob Heitz (jheitz) >> *Cc:* Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal ; TULASI RAM REDDY = < >> tulasiramireddy@gmail.com>; bess@ietf.org; idr@ietf.org >> *Subject:* Re: [Idr] [bess] Type 1 RD for Pure IPv6 network -- EVPN >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 11:22 PM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) >> wrote: >> >> >> >> Syntactic correctness means that the BGP Identifier field represents >> a valid unicast IP host address. >> >> >> >> >> >> Gyan> I do see that verbiage in section 6.2 >> >> >> >> If the BGP Identifier field of the OPEN message is syntactically >> >> incorrect, then the Error Subcode MUST be set to Bad BGP Identifier. >> >> Syntactic correctness means that the BGP Identifier field represents >> >> a valid unicast IP host address. >> >> >> >> BGP with IGP call back NH tracker checks the NH but how does BGP code va= lidate the RIB that the router-id is a connected loopback but >> >> and also advertised by IGP. I have not tried it but if you set a bogus = router-id would all the BGP peers go down. >> >> I will try that in the lab. >> >> >> >> IOS-XR does not have this check. Nothing breaks by violating this rule. >> IOS-XR implements RFC 6286. >> >> I think you'll be hard pressed to find a router that checks this. >> >> Gyan> Agreed. That is exactly what I thought. I was going to try on >> IOS XR but you saved me some time and results as I expected. I will try >> test RFC 6286 on XR. Have you tried doing IPv6 only peers on XR and wit= h >> BGP identifier set unique to 4 octet IP address and see if that works. = I >> am guessing it would work as XR does not have the check. >> >> >> >> I am not crazy about the RFC 6286 AS wide BGP identifier with 4 >> octet unsigned non zero integer. Most operators are more comfortable >> having unique 4 octet IP address as BGP identifier and I think would muc= h >> rather do that as long as the check does not exist as even with enabling >> RFC 6286 and having AS wide unique identifier seems odd and scary to me = as >> normally the BGP identifier must always be unique within the domain or >> breaks BGP. >> >> >> >> dual stack edge over v6 core RFC 5565 is becoming more common for >> operators every day with SRv6 push and thus IPv6 only routers and runnin= g >> into this issue where now you have to enable RFC 6286. >> >> >> >> I am thinking it maybe well worthwhile to write a draft that updates RFC >> 4271 check as vendors don=E2=80=99t follow it anyway and as we all know = not >> checking is not going to break anything and making so that for IPv6 only >> routers such as in a SRv6 core that the BGP identifier can remain a 4 oc= tet >> IP and then operators now could keep the same unique BGP identifier IP y= ou >> had on the router before you ripped it out of the core when transitioned= to >> SRv6. >> >> Regards, >> >> Jakob. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> [image: Image removed by sender.] >> >> *Gyan Mishra* >> >> *Network Solutions Architect * >> >> >> >> *M 301 502-1347 13101 Columbia Pike >> >> *Silver Spring, MD >> >> >> > -- > > > > *Gyan Mishra* > > *Network Solutions A**rchitect * > > > > *M 301 502-1347 13101 Columbia Pike > > *Silver Spring, MD > > -- *Gyan Mishra* *Network Solutions A**rchitect * *M 301 502-134713101 Columbia Pike *Silver Spring, MD --00000000000022e72605ba8bd5f9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I was thinking a CLI knob but RFC 6286 upd= ates RFC 4271 which sounds like new default behavior change with a upgrade.=

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[174.62.126.246]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id oa10sm8747601pjb.45.2021.02.12.17.37.14 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 12 Feb 2021 17:37:14 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-C12B9CD4-3EE9-478E-9F14-8F13105D4663 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Neeraj Malhotra Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2021 17:37:13 -0800 Message-Id: References: <098601d7004e$b9d96440$2d8c2cc0$@gmail.com> Cc: bess@ietf.org, draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility@ietf.org, bess-chairs@ietf.org In-Reply-To: <098601d7004e$b9d96440$2d8c2cc0$@gmail.com> To: slitkows.ietf@gmail.com X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18D52) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 X-BeenThere: bess@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: BGP-Enabled ServiceS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Feb 2021 01:37:18 -0000 --Apple-Mail-C12B9CD4-3EE9-478E-9F14-8F13105D4663 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Thanks Stephane. Will update very soon. Neeraj > On Feb 11, 2021, at 12:20 AM, slitkows.ietf@gmail.com wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > Hi Authors, > =20 > Please address the comments raised by the WG members before we move forwar= d. > I have fixed the dependency to the individual draft, so now the IPR appear= s on the WG doc. > =20 > Brgds, > =20 > Stephane > =20 > =20 > From: Acee Lindem (acee) =20 > Sent: lundi 18 janvier 2021 18:25 > To: slitkows.ietf@gmail.com; bess@ietf.org > Cc: bess-chairs@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-ie= tf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 > =20 > Hi Stephane, et al, > I did another quick read of the draft and I support publication. I think i= t would be good to state in the introduction which sections of the draft our= normative and which are informative. > Thanks, > Acee > =20 > From: BESS on behalf of "slitkows.ietf@gmail.com" <= slitkows.ietf@gmail.com> > Date: Monday, January 18, 2021 at 3:58 AM > To: "bess@ietf.org" > Cc: "bess-chairs@ietf.org" > Subject: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for draft-ietf-b= ess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 > =20 > This email starts a two-week working group last call for draft-ietf-bess-e= vpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 [1] > =20 > =20 > =20 > Please review the draft and send any comments to the BESS list. Also, plea= se indicate if you support publishing the draft as a standards track RFC. > =20 > =20 > =20 > This poll runs until February 1st. > =20 > =20 > =20 > We are also polling for knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to t= his Document, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF I= PR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). > =20 > If you are listed as an Author or a Contributor of this document please re= spond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevan= t undisclosed IPR. The Document won't progress without answers from all the A= uthors and Contributors. > =20 > There is currently no IPR disclosed. > =20 > In addition, we are polling for knowledge of implementations of this draft= , per the BESS policy in [2]. =20 > =20 > =20 > Thank you, > =20 > Matthew & Stephane > =20 > [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mob= ility/ > [2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw= > =20 --Apple-Mail-C12B9CD4-3EE9-478E-9F14-8F13105D4663 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

Thank= s Stephane. Will update very soon.

Neeraj

On Feb 11, 2021, at 12:20 AM, slitk= ows.ietf@gmail.com wrote:

=EF=BB=BF

Hi Authors,

<= o:p> 

Please address the comments raised by the WG= members before we move forward.

I have fixed the d= ependency to the individual draft, so now the IPR appears on the WG doc.

 

Brgds,

 

Stephane

<= p class=3D"MsoNormal"> 

 

From: Acee Lindem (acee) <acee@cisco.com>
Sent: lundi 18= janvier 2021 18:25
To: slitkows.ietf@gmail.com; bess@ietf.org
= Cc: bess-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [bess] WG Last Call, I= PR and Implementation Poll for draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01=

 

Hi Stephane, et al,

I did another quick r= ead of the draft and I support publication. I think it would be good to stat= e in the introduction which sections of the draft our normative and which ar= e informative.

Thanks,

Acee

=  

From: <= /span>B

Kind Regards=C2=A0

Gyan

There's no knob for RFC 6286. RID cannot be assumed to be unique across= ASes. Period. Well, unless you have control over all the ASes. What do you= mean by the knob exactly?

Regards,
Jakob.


On Feb 4, 2021, at 6:55 AM, Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com= > wrote:

=EF=BB=BF

Hi Acee

Understood the uniqueness by ASN,RID per RFC 6286 AS wide= BGP identifier for the IPv6 only SRv6 core use case.

What I am uncomfortable as an operator with is the AS wid= e BGP identifier on every core router using the RFC 6286 knob for the SRv6 = use case.=C2=A0 If we could continue to use unique IPv4 address =C2=A0on ev= ery core router in the SRv6 IPv6 only core use case I would be more comfortable then using the RFC 6286 knob.

Kind Regards=C2=A0

Gyan

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 6:09 AM Acee L= indem (acee) <acee@c= isco.com> wrote:

Hi Gyan,

Agree with Jakob. There is no reason for the BGP Ide= ntifier to be a unique IPv4 address. Consider an IPv6 only AS. However, the= re is nothing precluding you from using an IPv4 address if you are uncomfor= table.

=C2=A0

Thanks,
Acee

=C2=A0

From: BESS <bess-bounces@ietf.org>= ; on behalf of "Jakob Heitz (jheitz)" <jheitz=3D40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.or= g>
Date: Thursday, February 4, 2021 at 12:52 AM
To: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>

Cc: TULASI RAM REDDY <tulasiramireddy@gmail.com>, Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal &l= t;muthu.arul@gmai= l.com>, "bes= s@ietf.org" <bess@ietf.org&g= t;, IDR List <idr@ietf= .org>
Subject: Re: [bess] [Idr] Type 1 RD for Pure IPv6 network -- EVPN=

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RFC 6286 already updates RFC 4271.=

Basically, RID is not unique. (ASN,RID) is uniqu= e. The only limitation on RID is that RID !=3D 0.

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Regards,

Jakob.

=C2=A0

From: Gyan Mishra= <hayabusagsm= @gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2021 9:42 PM
To: Jakob Heitz (jheitz) <jheitz@cisco.com>
Cc: Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal <muthu.arul@gmail.com>; TULASI RAM REDDY <<= a href=3D"mailto:tulasiramireddy@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">tulasiramired= dy@gmail.com>; bess@ietf.org; idr@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Idr] [bess] Type 1 RD for Pure IPv6 network -- EVPN=

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=C2=A0

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On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 1= 1:22 PM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) <jheitz@cisco.com> wrote:

<snip RFC4271>

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Syntactic correctness mean= s that the BGP Identifier field represents
=C2=A0 =C2=A0a valid unicast IP host address.

</snip>=C2=A0

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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Gyan= > I do see that verbiage in section 6.2

=C2=A0
=C2=A0=C2=A0 If the BGP Identifier field o=
f the OPEN message is syntactically
=C2=A0=C2=A0 incorrect, then the Error Sub=
code MUST be set to Bad BGP Identifier.
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Syntactic correctness means t=
hat the BGP Identifier field represents
=C2=A0=C2=A0 a valid unicast IP host addre=
ss.
=C2=A0
BGP with IGP call back N=
H tracker checks the NH but how does BGP code validate the RIB that the rou=
ter-id is a connected loopback but
and also advertised by I=
GP.=C2=A0 I have not tried it but if you set a bogus router-id would all th=
e BGP peers go down.
I will try that in the l=
ab.

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IOS-XR does not have this check. Nothing breaks = by violating this rule. IOS-XR implements RFC 6286.

I think you'll be hard pressed to find a rou= ter that checks this.

=C2=A0Gyan> Agreed.=C2=A0 That is exactly wha= t I thought.=C2=A0 I was going to try on IOS XR but you saved me some time = and results as I expected.=C2=A0 I will try test RFC 6286 on XR.=C2=A0 Have you tried doing IPv6 only peers on XR and with BGP identifi= er set unique to 4 octet IP address and see if that works.=C2=A0 I am guess= ing it would work as XR does not have the check. =C2=A0

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=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I =C2=A0am= not crazy about the RFC 6286 AS wide BGP identifier with 4 octet unsigned = non zero integer.=C2=A0 Most operators are more comfortable having unique 4= octet IP address as BGP identifier and I think would much rather do that as long as the check does not exist as even with enabling R= FC 6286 and having AS wide unique identifier seems odd and scary to me as n= ormally the BGP identifier must always be unique within the domain or break= s BGP.

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dual stack edge over v6 = core RFC 5565 is becoming more common for operators every day with SRv6 pus= h and thus IPv6 only routers and running into this issue where now you have= to enable RFC 6286.

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I am thinking it maybe w= ell worthwhile to write a draft that updates RFC 4271 check as vendors don= =E2=80=99t follow it anyway and as we all know not checking is not going to= break anything and making so that for IPv6 only routers such as in a SRv6 core that the BGP identifier can remain a 4 octe= t IP and then operators now could keep the same unique BGP identifier IP yo= u had on the router before you ripped it out of the core when transitioned = to SRv6.

Regards,

Jakob.

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=3D"Image

Gyan Mishra

Network Solutions Architect= =C2=A0

M 301 502-1347
= 13101 Columbia Pike=C2=A0
Silver Spring, MD

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Gyan M= ishra

Network Solutions Architect=C2=A0

M 301 502-1347
13101 Columbia Pik= e=C2=A0
Silver Spring, MD


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Return-Path: X-Original-To: bess@ietf.org Delivered-To: bess@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C7C3A1D59; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 00:05:43 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: bess@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 7.25.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bess@ietf.org Message-ID: <161251234341.12158.15831415425259416355@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2021 00:05:43 -0800 Archived-At: Subject: [bess] I-D Action: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-12.txt X-BeenThere: bess@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: BGP-Enabled ServiceS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2021 08:05:44 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts 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This draft is a work item of the BGP Enabled ServiceS WG of the IETF. Title : Integrated Routing and Bridging in EVPN Authors : Ali Sajassi Samer Salam Samir Thoria John E Drake Jorge Rabadan Filename : draft-ietf-bess-evpn-inter-subnet-forwarding-12.txt Pages : 35 Date : 2021-02-05 Abstract: Ethernet VPN (EVPN) provides an extensible and flexible multi-homing VPN solution over an MPLS/IP network for intra-subnet connectivity among Tenant Systems and End Devices that can be physical or virtual. However, there are scenarios for which there is a need for a dynamic and efficient inter-subnet connectivity among these Tenant Systems and End Devices while maintaining the multi-homing capabilities of EVPN. This document describes an Integrated Routing and Bridging (IRB) solution based on EVPN to address such requirements. 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So, all the PEs multihomed to an ES may not always arrive at the same DF (or BFD in the case of single-active L-LINE service) with the default DF election algo. This is problematic (and may cause traffic loops). Hence, the default DF election algo works only when all PEs multihomed to an ES have Originating Router's IP Address of the same AF.. Regards, Muthu On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 7:58 PM TULASI RAM REDDY wrote: > Hi All, > > As mentioned in the Problem Statement of RFC8584 Sec 1.3, Default DF > algorithm is expected to have > all multihomed PEs to have Originating IP of the same address family. > Do we see any interop issue if the different address families are > considered, i.e. ordering in > ascending order based on numerical value in Originating IP here? For IPv4 > read 4 octets as unsigned integer > and IPv6 is considered as 16 octet unsigned integer. > > 1.3 . Problem Statement > > Default DF election algorithm assumes > that all the PEs who are multihomed to the same ES (and interested in > the DF election by exchanging EVPN routes) use an Originating > Router's IP address [RFC7432 ] of the same family. > > > Thanks, > TULASI RAMI REDDY N > _______________________________________________ > BESS mailing list > BESS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess > --000000000000f2539f05ba93af6f Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Tulasi,

I think the problem is, there is = no standard way to numerically compare IPv4 with IPv6 addresses to form an = ordered=C2=A0list. So, all the PEs multihomed to an ES may not always arriv= e at the same DF (or BFD in the case of single-active L-LINE service) with = the default DF election algo. This is problematic (and may cause traffic lo= ops). Hence, the default=C2=A0DF election algo works only when all PEs mult= ihomed to an ES have=C2=A0Originating Router's IP Address of the same A= F..

Regards,
Muthu

Hi All,

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As mentioned in the Problem Statement of RFC8584 Sec 1.3, Default= DF algorithm is expected to have
all multihomed PEs to have= Originating IP of the same address family.
Do we see any interop= issue if the different address families are considered, i.e. ordering in
ascending order based on numerical value in Originating IP here? = For IPv4 read 4 octets as unsigned integer
and IPv6 is consi= dered as 16 octet unsigned integer.

1.3. Probl= em Statement

Default DF election algorithm assumes
that all the PEs who are multihomed to the same ES (and interested in
the DF election by exchanging EVPN routes) use an Originating
Router's IP address [RFC7432] of the same family.

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Shouldn't numeric value here mean simply the 4byte or 16 byte unsigned value representation of the IP address field? Thinking loudly on how to interpret numeric value and the limitations here. Any comments? each PE builds an ordered list of the IP addresses of all the PE nodes connected to the Ethernet segment (including itself), in *increasing numeric value* Thanks, Tulasi. On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 3:15 PM Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal < muthu.arul@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Tulasi, > > I think the problem is, there is no standard way to numerically compare > IPv4 with IPv6 addresses to form an ordered list. So, all the PEs > multihomed to an ES may not always arrive at the same DF (or BFD in the > case of single-active L-LINE service) with the default DF election algo. > This is problematic (and may cause traffic loops). Hence, the default DF > election algo works only when all PEs multihomed to an ES have Originating > Router's IP Address of the same AF.. > > Regards, > Muthu > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 7:58 PM TULASI RAM REDDY > wrote: > >> Hi All, >> >> As mentioned in the Problem Statement of RFC8584 Sec 1.3, Default DF >> algorithm is expected to have >> all multihomed PEs to have Originating IP of the same address family. >> Do we see any interop issue if the different address families are >> considered, i.e. ordering in >> ascending order based on numerical value in Originating IP here? For IPv4 >> read 4 octets as unsigned integer >> and IPv6 is considered as 16 octet unsigned integer. >> >> 1.3 . Problem Statement >> >> Default DF election algorithm assumes >> that all the PEs who are multihomed to the same ES (and interested in >> the DF election by exchanging EVPN routes) use an Originating >> Router's IP address [RFC7432 ] of the same family. >> >> >> Thanks, >> TULASI RAMI REDDY N >> _______________________________________________ >> BESS mailing list >> BESS@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess >> > -- TULASI RAMI REDDY N --000000000000d099db05ba969ae6 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Muthu.
Shouldn'= t numeric value here mean simply the 4byte or 16 byte unsigned value repres= entation of the IP address field?
Thinking loudly on how to inter= pret numeric=20 value=C2=A0 and the limitations here. Any comments?

=
each PE builds an ordered list of the IP
addresses of all the PE nodes connected to the Ethernet segment
(including itself), in increasing numeric value

Thanks,
Tulasi.
On Fri, Feb 5, 202= 1 at 3:15 PM Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal <muthu.arul@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Tulasi,

I t= hink the problem is, there is no standard way to numerically compare IPv4 w= ith IPv6 addresses to form an ordered=C2=A0list. So, all the PEs multihomed= to an ES may not always arrive at the same DF (or BFD in the case of singl= e-active L-LINE service) with the default DF election algo. This is problem= atic (and may cause traffic loops). Hence, the default=C2=A0DF election alg= o works only when all PEs multihomed to an ES have=C2=A0Originating Router&= #39;s IP Address of the same AF..

Regards,
Muthu

On Thu, Feb 4, = 2021 at 7:58 PM TULASI RAM REDDY <tulasiramireddy@gmail.com> wrote:
=
Hi All,<= br clear=3D"all">

As mentioned in the Problem Statement = of RFC8584 Sec 1.3, Default DF algorithm is expected to have
all multihomed PEs to have Originating IP of the same address family.
Do we see any interop issue if the different address families are con= sidered, i.e. ordering in
ascending order based on numerical val= ue in Originating IP here? For IPv4 read 4 octets as unsigned integer
<= /div>
and IPv6 is considered as 16 octet unsigned integer.

1.3. Problem Statement

Default DF election algorithm assumes
that all the PEs who are multihomed to the same ES (and interested in
the DF election by exchanging EVPN routes) use an Originating
Router's IP address [RFC7432] of the same family.

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charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tulasi, For the default DF algorithm, I think at that point it will be up to the im= plementation how to resolve the candidate list PEs with originating IPs of = different family. I know of some implementations that do what you are saying, but you can=92t= assume all RFC7432/8584 implementations will do that. Thanks. Jorge From: BESS on behalf of TULASI RAM REDDY Date: Friday, February 5, 2021 at 2:15 PM To: Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal Cc: bess@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] RFC 8584: EVPN DF Election - Originating Router's IP Ad= dress of different address family Thanks Muthu. Shouldn't numeric value here mean simply the 4byte or 16 byte unsigned valu= e representation of the IP address field? Thinking loudly on how to interpret numeric value and the limitations here= . Any comments? each PE builds an ordered list of the IP addresses of all the PE nodes connected to the Ethernet segment (including itself), in increasing numeric value Thanks, Tulasi. On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 3:15 PM Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal > wrote: Hi Tulasi, I think the problem is, there is no standard way to numerically compare IPv= 4 with IPv6 addresses to form an ordered list. So, all the PEs multihomed t= o an ES may not always arrive at the same DF (or BFD in the case of single-= active L-LINE service) with the default DF election algo. This is problemat= ic (and may cause traffic loops). Hence, the default DF election algo works= only when all PEs multihomed to an ES have Originating Router's IP Address= of the same AF.. Regards, Muthu On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 7:58 PM TULASI RAM REDDY > wrote: Hi All, As mentioned in the Problem Statement of RFC8584 Sec 1.3, Default DF algori= thm is expected to have all multihomed PEs to have Originating IP of the same address family. Do we see any interop issue if the different address families are considere= d, i.e. ordering in ascending order based on numerical value in Originating IP here? For IPv4 r= ead 4 octets as unsigned integer and IPv6 is considered as 16 octet unsigned integer. 1.3. Problem Statement Default DF election algorithm assumes that all the PEs who are multihomed to the same ES (and interested in the DF election by exchanging EVPN routes) use an Originating Router's IP address [RFC7432] of the s= ame family. Thanks, TULASI RAMI REDDY N _______________________________________________ BESS mailing list BESS@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess -- TULASI RAMI REDDY N --_000_MWHPR08MB352053355938646D1828A103F7B29MWHPR08MB3520namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Tulasi,

 

For the default DF algorithm, I think at that point it will be up to the = implementation how to resolve the candidate list PEs with originating IPs o= f different family.

I know of some implementations that do what you are saying, but you can= =92t assume all RFC7432/8584 implementations will do that.

 

Thanks.

Jorge

 

From: BESS <bess-bounces@ietf.org> on be= half of TULASI RAM REDDY <tulasiramireddy@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, February 5, 2021 at 2:15 PM
To: Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal <muthu.arul@gmail.com>
Cc: bess@ietf.org <bess@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [bess] RFC 8584: EVPN DF Election - Originating Router'= s IP Address of different address family

Thanks Muthu.

Shouldn't numeric value= here mean simply the 4byte or 16 byte unsigned value representation of the= IP address field?

Thinking loudly on how = to interpret numeric value  and the limitations here. Any comments?

 

each PE builds an ordered list of the IP<=
o:p>
addresses of all the PE nodes connected t=
o the Ethernet segment
(including itself), in increasing nume=
ric value

 

Thanks,

Tulasi.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at = 3:15 PM Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal <muthu.arul@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Tulasi,

 =

I think the problem is, = there is no standard way to numerically compare IPv4 with IPv6 addresses to= form an ordered list. So, all the PEs multihomed to an ES may not always arrive at the same DF (or BFD in the case of singl= e-active L-LINE service) with the default DF election algo. This is problem= atic (and may cause traffic loops). Hence, the default DF election alg= o works only when all PEs multihomed to an ES have Originating Router's IP Address of the same AF..

 =

Regards,

Muthu<= /p>

 =

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at = 7:58 PM TULASI RAM REDDY <tulasiramireddy@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,

 

As mentioned in the Pro= blem Statement of RFC8584 Sec 1.3, Default DF algorithm is expected to have

all multihomed PEs to h= ave Originating IP of the same address family.

Do we see any interop i= ssue if the different address families are considered, i.e. ordering in

ascending order based o= n numerical value in Originating IP here? For IPv4 read 4 octets as unsigne= d integer

and IPv6 is considered = as 16 octet unsigned integer.

 

1.3= .  Problem Statement

Default DF election algorithm assumes
that all the PEs who are multihomed to th=
e same ES (and interested in
the DF election by exchanging EVPN routes=
) use an Originating
Router's IP address [RFC7432] of the same family.

 

Thanks,

TULASI RAMI REDDY N

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The General Area Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just like any other last call comments. For more information, please see the FAQ at . Document: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-04 Reviewer: David Schinazi Review Date: 2021-02-05 IETF LC End Date: 2021-02-16 IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat Summary: Thank you for a well-written document. It introduces a lot of terminology I wasn't used to, but does a good job of explaining it. Major issues: None Minor issues: None Nits/editorial comments: - The abstract defines all the acronyms (which is great) except PBB, could it define that one too? - Section 2.1 doesn't really explain what a "P node" is. 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See below. On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 4:44 PM David Schinazi via Datatracker wrote: > Reviewer: David Schinazi > Review result: Ready with Nits > > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area > Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed > by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just > like any other last call comments. > > For more information, please see the FAQ at > > . > > Document: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-04 > Reviewer: David Schinazi > Review Date: 2021-02-05 > IETF LC End Date: 2021-02-16 > IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat > > Summary: Thank you for a well-written document. > It introduces a lot of terminology I wasn't used to, > but does a good job of explaining it. > > Major issues: None > > Minor issues: None > > Nits/editorial comments: > - The abstract defines all the acronyms (which is great) except PBB, could it define that one too? > - Section 2.1 doesn't really explain what a "P node" is. Sure, we can expand PBB (Provider Backbone Bridge) in the abstract and say in Section 2.1 that P is Provider. These should probably also be added to the terminology section. I've made these changes in the working copy but they are pretty minor so I think I'll wait for the results of other reviews before uploading a new version. Thanks, Donald =============================== Donald E. 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David On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 6:34 PM Donald Eastlake wrote: > Hi Dave, > > Thanks for the review. See below. > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 4:44 PM David Schinazi via Datatracker > wrote: > > Reviewer: David Schinazi > > Review result: Ready with Nits > > > > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area > > Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed > > by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just > > like any other last call comments. > > > > For more information, please see the FAQ at > > > > . > > > > Document: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-04 > > Reviewer: David Schinazi > > Review Date: 2021-02-05 > > IETF LC End Date: 2021-02-16 > > IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat > > > > Summary: Thank you for a well-written document. > > It introduces a lot of terminology I wasn't used to, > > but does a good job of explaining it. > > > > Major issues: None > > > > Minor issues: None > > > > Nits/editorial comments: > > - The abstract defines all the acronyms (which is great) except PBB, > could it define that one too? > > - Section 2.1 doesn't really explain what a "P node" is. > > Sure, we can expand PBB (Provider Backbone Bridge) in the abstract and > say in Section 2.1 that P is Provider. These should probably also be > added to the terminology section. I've made these changes in the > working copy but they are pretty minor so I think I'll wait for the > results of other reviews before uploading a new version. > > Thanks, > Donald > =============================== > Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) > 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA > d3e3e3@gmail.com > --000000000000f862d505baa25c83 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
That sounds great, thanks Donald!

David=

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 6:34 PM Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dave,

Thanks for the review. See below.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 4:44 PM David Schinazi via Datatracker
<noreply@ietf.org<= /a>> wrote:
> Reviewer: David Schinazi
> Review result: Ready with Nits
>
> I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area > Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed
> by the IESG for the IETF Chair.=C2=A0 Please treat these comments just=
> like any other last call comments.
>
> For more information, please see the FAQ at
>
> <
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>
> Document: draft-ietf-bess-evpn-oam-req-frmwk-04
> Reviewer: David Schinazi
> Review Date: 2021-02-05
> IETF LC End Date: 2021-02-16
> IESG Telechat date: Not scheduled for a telechat
>
> Summary: Thank you for a well-written document.
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0It introduces a lot of terminology I wasn't used to, >=C2=A0 =C2=A0but does a good job of explaining it.
>
> Major issues: None
>
> Minor issues: None
>
> Nits/editorial comments:
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- The abstract defines all the acronyms (which is great) e= xcept PBB, could it define that one too?
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0- Section 2.1 doesn't really explain what a "P no= de" is.

Sure, we can expand PBB (Provider Backbone Bridge) in the abstract and
say in Section 2.1 that P is Provider. These should probably also be
added to the terminology section. I've made these changes in the
working copy but they are pretty minor so I think I'll wait for the
results of other reviews before uploading a new version.

Thanks,
Donald
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boundary="00000000000084a98a05baf32a83" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [bess] RFC 8584: EVPN DF Election - Originating Router's IP Address of different address family X-BeenThere: bess@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: BGP-Enabled ServiceS working group discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2021 03:40:41 -0000 --00000000000084a98a05baf32a83 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Satya, Please see inline.. On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 8:37 AM Satya Mohanty (satyamoh) wrote: > Hi Tulasi and Muthu, > > > > Yes, the numeric value here refers to the 4byte or 16byte unsigned value > representation of the IP address field. > > Maybe in the 7432-bis this can be stated explicitly. > Agree, this is important to clarify in 7432-bis and simple to fix in implementations that don't compare IPv4 and IPv6 addresses this way for default DF election algo.. > > > We did envision this possibility in RFC 8584 (the HRW hash already takes > care of the fact that the IP address could be either IPV4 or IPV6). > > > > However, with respect to deployment do you have a case in mind of this > =E2=80=9Cmixed v4/v6=E2=80=9D that will necessitate such a tie-break? > > I mean one of the MH PEs has an ipv4 originator address and the other a v= 6 > originator address. > Yes, in a dual-stack environment, there could be multihomed PEs running (1) BGP over IP4 w/ IPv4 NH, (2) BGP over IPv6 w/ IPv4 NH, (3) BGP over IPv6 w/ IPv6 NH, say connected thru' an RR in control plane, and all part of the same ES group. In this case, the Originating Router's IP address in the ES route could be an IPv4 or IPv6 address (implementation specific).. Regards, Muthu > > > Thanks, > > --Satya > > > > > > *From: *BESS on behalf of TULASI RAM REDDY < > tulasiramireddy@gmail.com> > *Date: *Friday, February 5, 2021 at 5:17 AM > *To: *Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal > *Cc: *"bess@ietf.org" > *Subject: *Re: [bess] RFC 8584: EVPN DF Election - Originating Router's > IP Address of different address family > > > > Thanks Muthu. > > Shouldn't numeric value here mean simply the 4byte or 16 byte unsigned > value representation of the IP address field? > > Thinking loudly on how to interpret numeric value and the limitations > here. Any comments? > > > > each PE builds an ordered list of the IP > > addresses of all the PE nodes connected to the Ethernet segment > > (including itself), in *increasing numeric value* > > > > Thanks, > > Tulasi. > > On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 3:15 PM Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal < > muthu.arul@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Tulasi, > > > > I think the problem is, there is no standard way to numerically compare > IPv4 with IPv6 addresses to form an ordered list. So, all the PEs > multihomed to an ES may not always arrive at the same DF (or BFD in the > case of single-active L-LINE service) with the default DF election algo. > This is problematic (and may cause traffic loops). Hence, the default DF > election algo works only when all PEs multihomed to an ES have Originatin= g > Router's IP Address of the same AF.. > > > > Regards, > > Muthu > > > > On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 7:58 PM TULASI RAM REDDY > wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > As mentioned in the Problem Statement of RFC8584 Sec 1.3, Default DF > algorithm is expected to have > > all multihomed PEs to have Originating IP of the same address family. > > Do we see any interop issue if the different address families are > considered, i.e. ordering in > > ascending order based on numerical value in Originating IP here? For IPv4 > read 4 octets as unsigned integer > > and IPv6 is considered as 16 octet unsigned integer. > > > 1.3 . Problem Statement > > Default DF election algorithm assumes > > that all the PEs who are multihomed to the same ES (and interested in > > the DF election by exchanging EVPN routes) use an Originating > > Router's IP address [RFC7432 ] of th= e same family. > > > > Thanks, > > TULASI RAMI REDDY N > > _______________________________________________ > BESS mailing list > BESS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/bess > > > > -- > > TULASI RAMI REDDY N > --00000000000084a98a05baf32a83 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Satya,

Please see inline..

On Wed, Feb 10, 2021 at 8:37 AM Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)= <satyamoh@cisco.com> wrote= :

Hi Tulasi and Muthu,

=C2=A0

Yes, the numeric value here refers to the 4byte or 1= 6byte unsigned value representation of the IP address field.<= /p>

Maybe in the 7432-bis this can be stated explicitly.=


Agree, = this is important to clarify in 7432-bis and simple to fix in implementatio= ns that don't compare IPv4 and IPv6 addresses this way for default DF e= lection algo..
=C2=A0
=

=C2=A0

We did envision this possibility in RFC 8584 (the HR= W hash already takes care of the fact that the IP address could be either I= PV4 or IPV6).

=C2=A0

However, with respect to deployment do you have a ca= se in mind of this =E2=80=9Cmixed v4/v6=E2=80=9D that will necessitate such= a tie-break?

I mean one of the MH PEs has an ipv4 originator addr= ess and the other a v6 originator address.


Yes, in a dual-stack environment, there = could be multihomed PEs running (1) BGP over IP4 w/ IPv4 NH, (2) BGP over I= Pv6 w/ IPv4 NH, (3) BGP over IPv6 w/ IPv6 NH, say connected thru' an RR= in control plane, and all part of the same ES group. In this case, the Ori= ginating Router's IP address in the ES route could be an IPv4 or IPv6 a= ddress (implementation specific)..

=
Regards,
Muthu
=C2=A0<= /div>

=C2=A0

Thanks,

--Satya

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: = BESS <bess-bounces@ietf.org>= ; on behalf of TULASI RAM REDDY <tulasiramireddy@gmail.com>
Date: Friday, February 5, 2021 at 5:17 AM
To: Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal <muthu.arul@gmail.com>
Cc: "bess@ie= tf.org" <bes= s@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [bess] RFC 8584: EVPN DF Election - Originating Router&= #39;s IP Address of different address family

=C2=A0

Thanks Muthu.

Shouldn't numeric value here mean simply the 4by= te or 16 byte unsigned value representation of the IP address field?=

Thinking loudly on how to interpret numeric value=C2= =A0 and the limitations here. Any comments?

=C2=A0

each PE builds an ordered list of the IP
addresses of all the PE nodes connected to the Ethernet segment=
(including itself), in increasing numeric value

=C2=A0

Thanks,

Tulasi.

On Fri, Feb 5, 2021 at 3:15 PM Muthu Arul Mozhi Peru= mal <muthu.aru= l@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Tulasi,

=C2=A0

I think the problem is, there is no standard way to numerically com= pare IPv4 with IPv6 addresses to form an ordered=C2=A0list. So, all the PEs= multihomed to an ES may not always arrive at the same DF (or BFD in the case of single-active L-LINE service) with t= he default DF election algo. This is problematic (and may cause traffic loo= ps). Hence, the default=C2=A0DF election algo works only when all PEs multi= homed to an ES have=C2=A0Originating Router's IP Address of the same AF..

=C2=A0

Regards,

Muthu

=C2=A0

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 7:58 PM TULASI RAM REDDY <= tulasiramire= ddy@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,

=C2=A0

As mentioned in the Problem Statement of RFC8584 Sec= 1.3, Default DF algorithm is expected to have

all multihomed PEs to have Originating IP of the sam= e address family.

Do we see any interop issue if the different address= families are considered, i.e. ordering in

ascending order based on numerical value in Originat= ing IP here? For IPv4 read 4 octets as unsigned integer

and IPv6 is considered as 16 octet unsigned integer.=

=C2=A0

1.3.=C2=A0 Problem Statement

Default DF election algorithm assumes
that all the PEs who are multihomed to the same ES (and interested in<=
u>
the DF election by exchanging EVPN routes) use an Originating
Router's IP address [RFC7=
432] of the same family.

=C2=A0

Thanks,

TULASI RAMI REDDY N

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I have fixed the dependency to the individual draft, so now the IPR = appears on the WG doc. =20 Brgds, =20 Stephane =20 =20 From: Acee Lindem (acee) =20 Sent: lundi 18 janvier 2021 18:25 To: slitkows.ietf@gmail.com; bess@ietf.org Cc: bess-chairs@ietf.org Subject: Re: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for = draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 =20 Hi Stephane, et al,=20 I did another quick read of the draft and I support publication. I think = it would be good to state in the introduction which sections of the = draft our normative and which are informative. Thanks, Acee =20 From: BESS > on = behalf of "slitkows.ietf@gmail.com " = > Date: Monday, January 18, 2021 at 3:58 AM To: "bess@ietf.org " > Cc: "bess-chairs@ietf.org " = > Subject: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for = draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 =20 This email starts a two-week working group last call for = draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 [1] =20 =20 =20 Please review the draft and send any comments to the BESS list. Also, = please indicate if you support publishing the draft as a standards track = RFC. =20 =20 =20 This poll runs until February 1st. =20 =20 =20 We are also polling for knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to = this Document, to ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with = IETF IPR rules (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details). =20 If you are listed as an Author or a Contributor of this document please = respond to this email and indicate whether or not you are aware of any = relevant undisclosed IPR. The Document won't progress without answers = from all the Authors and Contributors. =20 There is currently no IPR disclosed. =20 In addition, we are polling for knowledge of implementations of this = draft, per the BESS policy in [2]. =20 =20 =20 Thank you, =20 Matthew & Stephane =20 [1] = https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobili= ty/=20 [2] = = https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SEdkjqDpw =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0987_01D70057.1B9F79F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Authors,

 

Please address the comments raised = by the WG members before we move forward.

I have fixed the dependency to the = individual draft, so now the IPR appears on the WG = doc.

 

Brgds,

 

Stephane

 

 

From: Acee Lindem (acee) = <acee@cisco.com>
Sent: lundi 18 janvier 2021 = 18:25
To: slitkows.ietf@gmail.com; bess@ietf.org
Cc: = bess-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and = Implementation Poll for = draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01

=

 

Hi Stephane, et al, =

I did = another quick read of the draft and I support publication. I think it = would be good to state in the introduction which sections of the draft = our normative and which are informative.

Thanks,

Acee

 

From: = BESS <bess-bounces@ietf.org> on = behalf of "slitkows.ietf@gmail.com"= <slitkows.ietf@gmail.com>Date: Monday, January 18, 2021 at 3:58 AM
To: = "bess@ietf.org" = <bess@ietf.org>
Cc: = "bess-chairs@ietf.org" = <bess-chairs@ietf.org>
S= ubject: [bess] WG Last Call, IPR and Implementation Poll for = draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01

=

 

This email starts a = two-week working group last call for = draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-extended-mobility-01 = [1]

 

 

 

Please review the draft = and send any comments to the BESS list. Also, please indicate if you = support publishing the draft as a standards track = RFC.

 

 

 

This poll runs until = February 1st.

 

 

 

We are also polling for = knowledge of any undisclosed IPR that applies to this Document, to = ensure that IPR has been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules = (see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more = details).

 

If you are listed as an = Author or a Contributor of this document please respond to this email = and indicate whether or not you are aware of any relevant undisclosed = IPR. The Document won't progress without answers from all the Authors = and Contributors.

 

There is currently no = IPR disclosed.

 

In addition, we are = polling for knowledge of implementations = of this draft, per the = BESS policy in [2].   

 

 

Thank = you,

 

Matthew & = Stephane

 

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-bess-evpn-irb-ex= tended-mobility/

[2] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/bess/cG3X1tTqb_vPC4rg56SE= dkjqDpw

 

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   Syntactic correctness means that the BGP Identifier field represents
   a valid unicast IP host address.

BGP with IGP call back NH tracker checks the NH but how does BGP code v=
alidate the RIB that the router-id is a connected loopback but
and also advertised by I=
GP.  I have not tried it but if you set a bogus router-id would all the BGP=
 peers go down.
I will try that in the lab.

=
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=
This question comes up a lot these days as operatio= ns migrate to some flavor of IPv6 only core MPLS LDPv6, SR-MPLSv6, SRv6.


Thanks=C2=A0

Gyan=C2= =A0
On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 at 5:45 AM Muthu Arul Mozhi Perumal &= lt;muthu.arul@gma= il.com> wrote:
Hi Tulasi,

In pure IPv6 networks, I think using the BGP identifier = in place of the IP address part in the type 1 RD should suffice for all pra= ctical=C2=A0purposes. The only catch is, if it is an=C2=A0AS-wide unique BG= P identifier [RFC6286], then it is not an IP address 'per se'. But,= I think it makes no difference from an interoperability=C2=A0standpoint..<= br>
Perhaps, in line with RFC6286, we should redefine the IP address pa= rt of the type 1 RD as just a=C2=A04-octet, unsigned, non-zero integer..
Regards,
Muthu

On Fri, Jan 22, 2021= at 11:31 AM TULASI RAM REDDY <tulasiramireddy@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi All,

In a p= ure IPv6 network, how do one expect to construct the Type 1 RD.
A= s per EVPN RFC 7432 for EAD per ES, it should be Type 1 RD, but if the loop= back address is only IPv6 then what is the expectation here?
= Should we use BGP router ID(32bit) here?

From = RFC7432: EVPN

8.2.1. Const= ructing Ethernet A-D per Ethernet Segment Route

   The Route Distinguisher (RD) MUST b=
e a Type 1 RD [RFC4364].  The
   value field comprises an IP address o=
f the PE (typically, the
   loopback address) followed by a number unique to the PE.

Thanks,
TULASI RAM= I REDDY N
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