Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0153F7F5DD for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:29:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 307D414225A for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:28:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 29950-09 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:28:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from redwood.morsemedia.net (redwood.morsemedia.net [69.50.246.194]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E9B142257 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:28:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from [75.111.46.70] (helo=[192.168.0.103]) by redwood.morsemedia.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1GwLLP-0004K3-16; Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:28:03 -0800 Message-ID: <4586C189.9000508@calconnect.org> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:27:53 -0800 From: Dave Thewlis Organization: The Calendaring and Scheduling Consortium User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ietf-caldav list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060106000901060605020705" X-MorseMedia-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MorseMedia-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-MorseMedia-MailScanner-From: dave.thewlis@calconnect.org X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - redwood.morsemedia.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - osafoundation.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - calconnect.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 tagged_above=-50.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL, HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY X-Spam-Level: Subject: [Ietf-caldav] CalConnect Roundtable VIII and Interoperabilty Testing Event January 29-February 2, 2007 - Announcement and Registration Open X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Dave.Thewlis@calconnect.org List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:29:01 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060106000901060605020705 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The Calendaring and Scheduling Consortium has opened Registration for its Roundtable VIII and associated CalConnect Interoperability Test Event, which will be hosted by Novell in Provo, Utah, on January 29 through February 2, 2006. The IOP test event will run from noon Monday the 29th of January through noon Wednesday the 31st. The Roundtable will begin with lunch at 1230 on Wednesday January 31st and go to noon on Friday February 2nd. More information, logistics and registration information for both the Roundtable and the IOP test event may be found on the CalConnect web site at http://www.calconnect.org/roundtable8.html. And feel free to call me (telephone numbers below) or e-mail me with any questions or comments. Topical agendas for the technical committee meetings, and more detailed information about the testing planned at the IOP test event, will be posted to the CalConnect website as we get nearer to the event. This notice is being sent to multiple calendar-related lists; my apologies if you receive this more than once. We look forward to welcoming you to Provo! Best regards, Dave Thewlis -- *Dave Thewlis, Executive Director Calconnect - The Calendaring and Scheduling Consortium* +1 707 840 9391 (voice) +1 707 498 2238 (mobile) http://www.calconnect.org Dave.Thewlis@calconnect.org --------------060106000901060605020705 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The Calendaring and Scheduling Consortium has opened Registration for its Roundtable VIII and associated CalConnect Interoperability Test Event, which will be hosted by Novell in Provo, Utah, on January 29 through February 2, 2006.

The IOP test event will run from noon Monday the 29th of January through noon Wednesday the 31st.

The Roundtable will begin with lunch at 1230 on Wednesday January 31st and go to noon on Friday February 2nd.

More information, logistics and registration information for both the Roundtable and the IOP test event may be found on the CalConnect web site at http://www.calconnect.org/roundtable8.html.  And feel free to call me (telephone numbers below) or e-mail me with any questions or comments.

Topical agendas for the technical committee meetings, and more detailed information about the testing planned at the IOP test event, will be posted to the CalConnect website as we get nearer to the event.

This notice is being sent to multiple calendar-related lists; my apologies if you receive this more than once. 

We look forward to welcoming you to Provo!

Best regards,

Dave Thewlis

--
Dave Thewlis, Executive Director
Calconnect - The Calendaring and Scheduling Consortium

+1 707 840 9391 (voice) · +1 707 498 2238 (mobile)
http://www.calconnect.org · Dave.Thewlis@calconnect.org
--------------060106000901060605020705-- Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DBCC7F52E for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 13:24:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C099C14225A for ; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:12:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 17226-03; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:12:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (c-69-181-78-47.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [69.181.78.47]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9468142257; Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:12:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <7C2FED3D13FC620F8A108222@ninevah.local> References: <45841602.1000006@gmx.de> <7C2FED3D13FC620F8A108222@ninevah.local> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <0CC89239-E0B0-4CAB-8884-2530B0C26AD6@osafoundation.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Lisa Dusseault Subject: Re: [Ietf-caldav] i;octet collation requirement Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 13:23:11 -0800 To: Cyrus Daboo X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 tagged_above=-50.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL X-Spam-Level: Cc: CalDAV DevList , The IESG X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 21:24:08 -0000 I thought we explained this limitation in the spec itself, but I can't find that now. If we missed it, that's an unintentional oversight -- we definitely did discuss the limitation. Lisa On Dec 16, 2006, at 1:19 PM, Cyrus Daboo wrote: > Hi Julian, > > --On December 16, 2006 4:51:30 PM +0100 Julian Reschke > wrote: > >> In >> > caldav-15.html#rfc.sect >> ion.7.5>, CalDAV requires: >> >> ++ >> CalDAV servers are REQUIRED to support the "i;ascii-casemap" and >> "i;octet" collations as described in [I-D.newman-i18n-comparator], >> and >> MAY support other collations. >> ++ >> >> As CalDAV is not defined in terms of octet sequences, but in terms of >> Unicode characters, how is "i;octet" supposed to provide any >> meaningful >> results? >> >> Did anybody implement that? How? > > The base collation specification only defines i;ascii-casemap and > i;octet. Work is ongoing to provide better "unicode" collations: > > i;basic - collation-basic-00.txt> > > i;unicode-casemap - crispin-collation-unicasemap-00.txt> > > Certainly text matching on user supplied calendar data in > properties such as SUMMARY and DESCRIPTION will require one of > these (I certainly intend to implement one or both of these). > > In the meantime i;ascii-casemap and i;octet can be used to match > "tokens" in iCalendar enumerated properties which are just plain > ascii. > > -- > Cyrus Daboo > > _______________________________________________ > Ietf-caldav mailing list -- Ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org > See http://ietf.webdav.org/caldav/ for more CalDAV resources > http://lists.osafoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-caldav Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 618DC7F536 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 886F214225C for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:45:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03214-07 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:45:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 966A814225A for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:45:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Dec 2006 21:34:07 -0000 Received: from p508F900D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.144.13] by mail.gmx.net (mp028) with SMTP; 16 Dec 2006 22:34:07 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 Message-ID: <4584664C.5040908@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 22:34:04 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cyrus Daboo Subject: Re: [Ietf-caldav] i;octet collation requirement References: <45841602.1000006@gmx.de> <7C2FED3D13FC620F8A108222@ninevah.local> In-Reply-To: <7C2FED3D13FC620F8A108222@ninevah.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 tagged_above=-50.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL X-Spam-Level: Cc: CalDAV DevList , The IESG X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 04:41:44 -0000 Cyrus Daboo schrieb: > ... >> As CalDAV is not defined in terms of octet sequences, but in terms of >> Unicode characters, how is "i;octet" supposed to provide any meaningful >> results? >> >> Did anybody implement that? How? > > The base collation specification only defines i;ascii-casemap and > i;octet. Work is ongoing to provide better "unicode" collations: > > i;basic - > > > > i;unicode-casemap - > That's great. Hopefully they'll be finished soon :-). > Certainly text matching on user supplied calendar data in properties > such as SUMMARY and DESCRIPTION will require one of these (I certainly > intend to implement one or both of these). > > In the meantime i;ascii-casemap and i;octet can be used to match > "tokens" in iCalendar enumerated properties which are just plain ascii. But in this case I think it's still necessary to define what the mapping from a Unicode character sequence to the octet sequence used in "i;octet" is, right? Keep in mind that there are many ways to serialize a set of Unicode characters to an octet string, and depending on what method you use, the octet sequence will be different, thus collate differently. (BTW: this seems also to apply to "i;ascii-casemap", which is defined in terms of octets). Best regards, Julian Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84417F53C for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 20:22:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A219142264 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:25:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 03216-08 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mulberrymail.com (static-71-240-120-213.pitt.east.verizon.net [71.240.120.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D1DD142262 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 21:25:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.1.3] ([10.0.1.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by mulberrymail.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id kBGLJ124022844 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:19:06 -0500 Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:19:01 -0500 From: Cyrus Daboo To: Julian Reschke , CalDAV DevList Subject: Re: [Ietf-caldav] i;octet collation requirement Message-ID: <7C2FED3D13FC620F8A108222@ninevah.local> In-Reply-To: <45841602.1000006@gmx.de> References: <45841602.1000006@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.7 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.3 tagged_above=-50.0 required=4.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED X-Spam-Level: Cc: The IESG X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 04:22:16 -0000 Hi Julian, --On December 16, 2006 4:51:30 PM +0100 Julian Reschke wrote: > In > ion.7.5>, CalDAV requires: > > ++ > CalDAV servers are REQUIRED to support the "i;ascii-casemap" and > "i;octet" collations as described in [I-D.newman-i18n-comparator], and > MAY support other collations. > ++ > > As CalDAV is not defined in terms of octet sequences, but in terms of > Unicode characters, how is "i;octet" supposed to provide any meaningful > results? > > Did anybody implement that? How? The base collation specification only defines i;ascii-casemap and i;octet. Work is ongoing to provide better "unicode" collations: i;basic - i;unicode-casemap - Certainly text matching on user supplied calendar data in properties such as SUMMARY and DESCRIPTION will require one of these (I certainly intend to implement one or both of these). In the meantime i;ascii-casemap and i;octet can be used to match "tokens" in iCalendar enumerated properties which are just plain ascii. -- Cyrus Daboo Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Delivered-To: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org (laweleka.osafoundation.org [204.152.186.98]) by leilani.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46A637F57C for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3784E142262 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from laweleka.osafoundation.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (laweleka.osafoundation.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 11926-05 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:51:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.net [213.165.64.20]) by laweleka.osafoundation.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 50439142249 for ; Sat, 16 Dec 2006 07:51:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 16 Dec 2006 15:51:34 -0000 Received: from p508F900D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de (EHLO [192.168.178.22]) [80.143.144.13] by mail.gmx.net (mp036) with SMTP; 16 Dec 2006 16:51:34 +0100 X-Authenticated: #1915285 Message-ID: <45841602.1000006@gmx.de> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 16:51:30 +0100 From: Julian Reschke User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8.0.4) Gecko/20060516 Thunderbird/1.5.0.4 Mnenhy/0.7.4.666 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: CalDAV DevList Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new and clamav at osafoundation.org X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.2 tagged_above=-50.0 required=4.0 tests=AWL X-Spam-Level: Cc: The IESG Subject: [Ietf-caldav] i;octet collation requirement X-BeenThere: ietf-caldav@osafoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions on Calendar Access protocol based on WebDAV List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:51:39 -0000 Hi. In , CalDAV requires: ++ CalDAV servers are REQUIRED to support the "i;ascii-casemap" and "i;octet" collations as described in [I-D.newman-i18n-comparator], and MAY support other collations. ++ As CalDAV is not defined in terms of octet sequences, but in terms of Unicode characters, how is "i;octet" supposed to provide any meaningful results? Did anybody implement that? How? Best regards, Julian