From nobody Tue Aug 5 00:37:44 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9116C1B291D for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 00:37:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OYtngSF5cusL for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 00:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pa0-x236.google.com (mail-pa0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c03::236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E2CC01B2905 for ; Tue, 5 Aug 2014 00:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pa0-f54.google.com with SMTP id fa1so906482pad.13 for ; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 00:37:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:subject:message-id:date:to:mime-version; bh=OAhmW9RHrVb+alLKAHxW9GFF5iIGNaJTBdusbAeF0NI=; b=C2JN55qKGP0LDrWVeEEXAPdjicqZolGkyP3VyJda9BgJSr4ycIi/Jq3o9NZjVtN8hR RLb8lU7NrIW0mFrSnGKj3hbpGTZW+wphCIo5JUvtm5DlU7ivdQ7iRZRlNhEFN9XFBGT3 jTWPbXZcCe+iAOl8zBAhigE2mnsY+PLgZqERlCAemPfYFUVEFu03ZkaNxAm9cSmQbnWQ JNnYEswD4B99j8wUTHz38kA3obQZhKkzlr88cjjESJSE/xvptQVlGZz7kMPiBApS4wLn nDER23fgWmdNA9OITzKG07eLaO1s8tWmHLk1FcDD+vwcgdkhI5B9MEQ0T8sgL0LQ1OQs WNDQ== X-Received: by 10.66.170.171 with SMTP id an11mr1813430pac.146.1407224260147; Tue, 05 Aug 2014 00:37:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.100] ([1.147.229.249]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id lq4sm3470553pab.48.2014.08.05.00.37.38 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 05 Aug 2014 00:37:39 -0700 (PDT) From: James Winterbottom Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_23A497F4-0080-4E8E-81CF-F25B5709A87B" Message-Id: <5BBFC559-2048-4F38-B452-6044F4899967@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 17:37:34 +1000 To: "ecrit_ietf.org" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/YgR9g2yORZ2vNWAThvh1Sdck_zo Subject: [Ecrit] draft-marshall-ecrit-similar-location-04 X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014 07:37:42 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_23A497F4-0080-4E8E-81CF-F25B5709A87B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Marc and Roger, In light of the precedent being set by the working group that requires a = liaison statement from an SDO be provided prior to a work item being = adopted by working group. I request that the SDO requiring the = functionality outlined in draft-marshall-ecrit-similar-location-04 = submit an LS indicating why it is required and why the current LVF = capabilities offered by LoST are insufficient to address its needs, and = that it will use this specification prior to this work being adopted by = the WG. Cheers =91James --Apple-Mail=_23A497F4-0080-4E8E-81CF-F25B5709A87B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Marc = and Roger,

In light of the precedent being set by the = working group that requires a liaison statement from an SDO be provided = prior to a work item being adopted by working group. I request that the = SDO requiring the functionality outlined in draft-marshall-ecrit-similar-location-04  submit an LS = indicating why it is required and why the current LVF capabilities = offered by LoST are insufficient to address its needs, and that it will = use this specification prior to this work being adopted by the = WG.


Cheers
=91James

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On Aug 5, 2014, at 12:00 PMPDT, ecrit-request@ietf.org wrote: > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 17:37:34 +1000 > From: James Winterbottom > To: "ecrit_ietf.org" > Subject: [Ecrit] draft-marshall-ecrit-similar-location-04 > Message-ID: <5BBFC559-2048-4F38-B452-6044F4899967@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"windows-1252" >=20 > Marc and Roger, >=20 > In light of the precedent being set by the working group that requires = a liaison statement from an SDO be provided prior to a work item being = adopted by working group. I request that the SDO requiring the = functionality outlined in draft-marshall-ecrit-similar-location-04 = submit an LS indicating why it is required and why the current LVF = capabilities offered by LoST are insufficient to address its needs, and = that it will use this specification prior to this work being adopted by = the WG. >=20 >=20 > Cheers > James >=20 From nobody Wed Aug 6 10:11:03 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C55F1A014D for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:11:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 4zcYYaV-eqkB for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:10:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sesbmg22.ericsson.net (sesbmg22.ericsson.net [193.180.251.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 343AD1ABB2B for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 10:10:54 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb30-f79ba6d000000fe1-01-53e2619cdc8f Received: from ESESSHC017.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by sesbmg22.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 7F.38.04065.C9162E35; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:10:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSMB209.ericsson.se ([169.254.9.4]) by ESESSHC017.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.69]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 19:10:51 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: "Marc Linsner (mlinsner)" , "ecrit@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: draft-winterbottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04 Thread-Index: AQHPqmcDQBOWz8idXUOAditSmLV3JpvD3dJX Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:10:51 +0000 Message-ID: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1D3E202B@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.16] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1D3E202BESESSMB209erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrBLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvje6cxEfBBueaxSwaFz1ltTh7+Tqj A5PHlN8bWT2WLPnJFMAUxWWTkpqTWZZapG+XwJXx8GUPW8EqpYrGN2eYGxj3y3QxcnJICJhI TNnxihHCFpO4cG89WxcjF4eQwFFGiYX3/kA5CxklTnaCVHFwsAlYSHT/0wZpEBEIl5hw+BAb iC0sYChx9/9KVoi4kcTJFesZYey/D9ewgNgsAioSixq2MYHYvAK+Eq+WTGMHsYUE9CXWX93A CjKeU8BA4uQhIZAwI9A930+tAStnFhCXuPVkPhPEnQISS/acZ4awRSVePv7HCmErSuw8284M UZ8vcevBU6hVghInZz5hmcAoMgvJqFlIymYhKYOIG0i8PzefGcLWlli28DWUrS+x8ctZRmTx BYzsqxhFi1OLk3LTjYz0Uosyk4uL8/P08lJLNjECo+rglt8GOxhfPnc8xCjAwajEw/sg+GGw EGtiWXFl7iFGaQ4WJXHehefmBQsJpCeWpGanphakFsUXleakFh9iZOLglGpgLDzS9MvjXqU8 z4KZd7ubriw7YfnRp0W3pJVnpetMwQgD/Y/bllTyzEvbvjJf1qFWrkPmx/neyCr3U8vlX72/ 5eov+HRNwbZFDTc+Xnz6dfJB5Z9vf/tNm5Kzu5SZI+qiafPyxbkWfknrvA409ehtSc/ZaLdk uhBLVtPR/ZtMZ/tomYZwnu2bpsRSnJFoqMVcVJwIANiKg5eLAgAA Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/7r21Px-8uioZN6rnqfvdrER1hqA Subject: Re: [Ecrit] draft-winterbottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04 X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 17:11:02 -0000 --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1D3E202BESESSMB209erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I support option #1. Regards, Christer ________________________________ From: Ecrit [ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Marc Linsner (mlinsner) [= mlinsner@cisco.com] Sent: Monday, 28 July 2014 4:22 PM To: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] draft-winterbottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04 All, This draft was presented in a compressed time slot at the Toronto meeting l= ast week. James W. has indicated an urgency to move this work forward. Th= e chairs are asking everyone to review this from the perspective of adoptin= g this draft as a wg item. So, please review this from the overall archite= ctural value of providing emergency call routing within a HELD req/response= (protocol details and word smithing can be done after it becomes a wg item= ). Since James has indicated this work will be used by other SDOs, and coupled= with the stated urgency, the chairs request that you review the draft and = indicate to the list by COB Wednesday August 6, 2014 your opinion: 1. I believe this work should move forward in ECRIT 2. I=92m agnostic to this work and don=92t care either way 3. I=92m opposed to this architectural change to the ECRIT model and bel= ieve this work should not be adopted. A indication of #2 tells the chairs that you are aware of the work and trul= y don=92t have an opinion, it helps us in determining what percentage of th= e wg participants have read the draft. Thanks, Marc & Roger --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1D3E202BESESSMB209erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 

I support option #1.

 

Regards,

 

Christer

 

From: Ecrit [ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] on be= half of Marc Linsner (mlinsner) [mlinsner@cisco.com]
Sent: Monday, 28 July 2014 4:22 PM
To: ecrit@ietf.org
Subject: [Ecrit] draft-winterbottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04

All,

This draft was presented in a compressed time slot at the Toronto meet= ing last week.  James W. has indicated an urgency to move this work fo= rward.  The chairs are asking everyone to review this from the perspec= tive of adopting this draft as a wg item.  So, please review this from the overall architectural value of provi= ding emergency call routing within a HELD req/response (protocol details an= d word smithing can be done after it becomes a wg item).

Since James has indicated this work will be used by other SDOs, and co= upled with the stated urgency, the chairs request that you review the draft= and indicate to the list by COB Wednesday August 6, 2014 your opinion:
  1. I believe this work should move forward in ECRIT
  2. I=92m agnosti= c to this work and don=92t care either way
  3. I=92m opposed to this a= rchitectural change to the ECRIT model and believe this work should not be = adopted.

A indication of #2 tells the chairs that you are aware of the work and= truly don=92t have an opinion, it helps us in determining what percentage = of the wg participants have read the draft.

Thanks,

Marc & Roger


--_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1D3E202BESESSMB209erics_-- From nobody Wed Aug 6 12:26:31 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 188851A0115 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:26:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id h04YBqRQADK4 for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:26:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpe1.intersmtp.com (smtpe1.intersmtp.com [62.239.224.235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1AB7C1A00DD for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 12:26:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from EVMHT65-UKRD.domain1.systemhost.net (10.36.3.102) by RDW083A006ED62.bt.com (10.187.98.11) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.181.6; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 20:26:22 +0100 Received: from EMV67-UKRD.domain1.systemhost.net ([169.254.1.210]) by EVMHT65-UKRD.domain1.systemhost.net ([10.36.3.102]) with mapi; Wed, 6 Aug 2014 20:26:18 +0100 From: To: Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 20:26:16 +0100 Thread-Topic: ECRIT : draft-winterbottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04 Thread-Index: AQHPqmcDQBOWz8idXUOAditSmLV3JpvD3dJXgAAlILA= Message-ID: <9A47E8BDEFBF434D89F9024ACF5D677840F81D6D62@EMV67-UKRD.domain1.systemhost.net> References: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1D3E202B@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> In-Reply-To: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1D3E202B@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> Accept-Language: en-US, en-GB Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US, en-GB Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_9A47E8BDEFBF434D89F9024ACF5D677840F81D6D62EMV67UKRDdoma_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/iTPQPrAMbAvzZ8tXXmJk6qjpVOg Subject: [Ecrit] ECRIT : draft-winterbottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04 X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 19:26:29 -0000 --_000_9A47E8BDEFBF434D89F9024ACF5D677840F81D6D62EMV67UKRDdoma_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, I support Option #1 in message below. Regards, John ________________________________ From: Ecrit [ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] on behalf of Marc Linsner (mlinsner) [= mlinsner@cisco.com] Sent: Monday, 28 July 2014 4:22 PM To: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] draft-winterbottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04 All, This draft was presented in a compressed time slot at the Toronto meeting l= ast week. James W. has indicated an urgency to move this work forward. Th= e chairs are asking everyone to review this from the perspective of adoptin= g this draft as a wg item. So, please review this from the overall archite= ctural value of providing emergency call routing within a HELD req/response= (protocol details and word smithing can be done after it becomes a wg item= ). Since James has indicated this work will be used by other SDOs, and coupled= with the stated urgency, the chairs request that you review the draft and = indicate to the list by COB Wednesday August 6, 2014 your opinion: 1. I believe this work should move forward in ECRIT 2. I'm agnostic to this work and don't care either way 3. I'm opposed to this architectural change to the ECRIT model and believ= e this work should not be adopted. A indication of #2 tells the chairs that you are aware of the work and trul= y don't have an opinion, it helps us in determining what percentage of the = wg participants have read the draft. Thanks, Marc & Roger --_000_9A47E8BDEFBF434D89F9024ACF5D677840F81D6D62EMV67UKRDdoma_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

All, = ; I support Option #1 in message below.

 

Rega= rds,

 

John

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From: Ecrit [ecrit-bo= unces@ietf.org] on behalf of Marc Linsner (mlinsner) [mlinsner@cisco.com]Sent: Monday, 28 July 2014 4:22 PM
To: ecrit@ietf.org
Subject: [Ecrit] draft-winter= bottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04

All,=

 

This draft was presented in a compressed time slot at t= he Toronto meeting last week.  James W. has indicated an urgency to mo= ve this work forward.  The chairs are asking everyone to review this f= rom the perspective of adopting this draft as a wg item.  So, please r= eview this from the overall architectural value of providing emergency call= routing within a HELD req/response (protocol details and word smithing can= be done after it becomes a wg item).

 

Since James has in= dicated this work will be used by other SDOs, and coupled with the stated u= rgency, the chairs request that you review the draft and indicate to the li= st by COB Wednesday August 6, 2014 your opinion:

  1. I belie= ve this work should move forward in ECRIT
  2. I’m agnostic to this work and don’t = care either way
  3. I’m opposed to this architectural change to the ECRIT model and beli= eve this work should not be adopted.

 

=

A indication of #2 tells t= he chairs that you are aware of the work and truly don’t have an opin= ion, it helps us in determining what percentage of the wg participants have= read the draft.

 

Thanks,

 <= /p>

Marc & R= oger

 

 

= --_000_9A47E8BDEFBF434D89F9024ACF5D677840F81D6D62EMV67UKRDdoma_-- From nobody Tue Aug 12 02:23:13 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4223B1A07CC; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:23:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.515 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.515 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAD_CREDIT=2.415, BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id mAVt5akhF5WC; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A881A037A; Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:23:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: i-d-announce@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.2.p5 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140812092311.2365.17007.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 02:23:11 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/6kpCeDz2hByN-0ql3LhlOORYe7M Cc: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] I-D Action: draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access-10.txt X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 09:23:12 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group of the IETF. Title : Extensions to the Emergency Services Architecture for dealing with Unauthenticated and Unauthorized Devices Authors : Henning Schulzrinne Stephen McCann Gabor Bajko Hannes Tschofenig Dirk Kroeselberg Filename : draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access-10.txt Pages : 24 Date : 2014-08-12 Abstract: This document provides a problem statement, introduces terminology and describes an extension for the base IETF emergency services architecture to address cases where an emergency caller is not authenticated, has no identifiable service provider, or has no remaining credit with which to pay for access to the network. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access/ There's also a htmlized version available at: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access-10 A diff from the previous version is available at: http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-ecrit-unauthenticated-access-10 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Thu Aug 14 15:17:57 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCC31A7D80 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:17:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.168 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.168 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_05=-0.5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.668] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id irF8-mKufnKt for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sea-mx-01.telecomsys.com (sea-mx-01.telecomsys.com [199.165.246.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 31C4D1A88E9 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SEA-EXCAS-1.telecomsys.com (exc2010-local1.telecomsys.com [10.32.12.186]) by sea-mx-01.telecomsys.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7EMHjh1021756 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=OK); Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:17:45 -0700 Received: from SEA-EXMB-2.telecomsys.com ([169.254.2.77]) by SEA-EXCAS-1.telecomsys.com ([10.32.12.186]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Thu, 14 Aug 2014 15:17:45 -0700 From: Roger Marshall To: "ecrit@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Meeting Minutes Posted - IETF90 Thread-Index: Ac+4Ce6bJjK8bUTTTlCW8OGGCgSDlQ== Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 22:17:45 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.32.12.134] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/Q7WcNou4hMG_Iq7ZatbxD5fkn-w Subject: [Ecrit] Meeting Minutes Posted - IETF90 X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2014 22:17:56 -0000 You can find the ECRIT/IETF90 meeting minutes posted to the Materials Manag= er at: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/minutes/minutes-90-ecrit Thanks to Christer for taking the notes. Roger Marshall CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: The information contained in this message may be pr= ivileged and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, or res= ponsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, any review,= forwarding, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication o= r any attachment(s) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this messa= ge in error, please notify the sender immediately, and delete it and all at= tachments from your computer and network. From nobody Mon Aug 18 08:39:53 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F59C1A0647 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 08:39:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.969 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.969 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.668, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vPCwDI2HBuqs for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 08:39:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sabertooth01.qualcomm.com (sabertooth01.qualcomm.com [65.197.215.72]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C91AD1A0662 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 08:39:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qti.qualcomm.com; i=@qti.qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1408376390; x=1439912390; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:to:from:subject: mime-version; bh=IT8WcKA6131s8mKD8wQkesZ41G6cNboIGRqhZpS/elI=; b=g0hYR16XR/LiezcQi4NHvB6i0Zuem6oJ3q1TGl12C8gc4pVgaVkbsynl ade62Afwn07yoptFPfMJsktPTYEYs/rfRTPmHS/OiCv7UKm6R5pH3Ldtz FFajuJ7OfRzPmrKv4iYR8vGRDrtJs7/vNR4ZefT11anSh6DTG7JGxkdXq w=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5600,1067,7533"; a="72469235" Received: from ironmsg03-r.qualcomm.com ([172.30.46.17]) by sabertooth01.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 18 Aug 2014 08:39:49 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,886,1400050800"; d="scan'208";a="733611113" Received: from nasanexhc08.na.qualcomm.com ([172.30.39.7]) by Ironmsg03-R.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 18 Aug 2014 08:39:49 -0700 Received: from loud.qualcomm.com (172.30.39.5) by qcmail1.qualcomm.com (172.30.39.7) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.181.6; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 08:39:48 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 08:38:41 -0700 To: "ecrit@ietf.org" From: Randall Gellens MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Originating-IP: [172.30.39.5] Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/xM_fOQ19J-kuvwpEqZdqRcapULI Subject: [Ecrit] ServiceEnvironment element in draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data-22 X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:39:51 -0000 While updating additional-data-22 based on WGLC comments and Toronto discussion, I realized that the text for the ServiceEnvironment element needs changes. (This is the element that indicates if a customer is considered business or residential, and is specifically about the service contract, not the premises.) It's currently required in all cases. I propose to change the text to make it optional for wireless and required otherwise, and also mention that a business line may be installed in a residence, and also modify the reason for need and how used text to clarify that it may give the PSAP a hint about the premises or context, and also mention that it replicates an ALI field that exists in legacy. -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- The United States does not have a security system; it has a system for bothering people. --Shlomo Dror, Israeli air security expert, in 2002 From nobody Mon Aug 18 17:48:18 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 360AA1A8744; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:48:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RjZ43L2ML1rw; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CBB71A8747; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:47:56 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: The IESG To: IETF-Announce X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 5.6.2.p5 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <20140819004756.28902.70083.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 17:47:56 -0700 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/B6cIc-8J_TguSPCVlYgL-SVCSrc Cc: ecrit chair , ecrit mailing list , RFC Editor Subject: [Ecrit] Document Action: 'Trustworthy Location' to Informational RFC (draft-ietf-ecrit-trustworthy-location-14.txt) X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 00:48:08 -0000 The IESG has approved the following document: - 'Trustworthy Location' (draft-ietf-ecrit-trustworthy-location-14.txt) as Informational RFC This document is the product of the Emergency Context Resolution with Internet Technologies Working Group. The IESG contact persons are Alissa Cooper and Richard Barnes. A URL of this Internet Draft is: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-ecrit-trustworthy-location/ Technical Summary [Abstract] For some location-based applications, such as emergency calling or roadside assistance, the trustworthiness of location information is critically important. This document describes how to convey location in a manner that is inherently secure and reliable. It also provides guidelines for assessing the trustworthiness of location information. Working Group Summary There was healthy work group participation in compiling the details that make up the guidelines within the draft. There were no significant controversies noted on the list, and all dialogues were efficiently attended to with during the development stage. A successful development progression is documented in the ECRIT wg minutes and in email list archives. Document Quality No existing implementations are known to exist. There have been several vendors that have been involved in the development and review of the document. Personnel Document shepherd is Roger Marshall. Area Director is Alissa Cooper. From nobody Tue Aug 19 15:36:28 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A75DA1A6F03 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:36:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.669 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.669 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.668, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wCPoMvmed8iL for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:36:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine02.qualcomm.com (wolverine02.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.251]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A4C541A0020 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:36:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qti.qualcomm.com; i=@qti.qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1408487784; x=1440023784; h=message-id:in-reply-to:references:date:to:from:subject: mime-version; bh=SufTV75lapz7daToXlbIYCAGRB3BHPySio5mP3gbbo4=; b=aqm3bFX6Iyc9FM5aFH9jMD/LA72JBgcJuSdIdeCjZsEnc0M12HXeTMHI TPoR4nhVjDKVibVGS1w8/ZCFij4qcdDg1+muUKYrHBb4r1jPum/3Dsu89 bYg4zZebuPAyh7CzUT+Zlc99Cv2PTdhBUloZakfva0V6frhjUSWq3gsXv c=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5600,1067,7535"; a="150655030" Received: from ironmsg03-r.qualcomm.com ([172.30.46.17]) by wolverine02.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 19 Aug 2014 15:36:24 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,897,1400050800"; d="scan'208";a="734454501" Received: from nasanexhc02.na.qualcomm.com ([10.46.56.110]) by Ironmsg03-R.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-SHA; 19 Aug 2014 15:36:23 -0700 Received: from nasanexhc05.na.qualcomm.com (172.30.48.2) by NASANEXHC02.na.qualcomm.com (10.46.56.110) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.181.6; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:36:23 -0700 Received: from loud.qualcomm.com (172.30.48.1) by qcmail1.qualcomm.com (172.30.48.2) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.3.181.6; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:36:23 -0700 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1269B2DF7E93764F918EE6A9C9294547E973ECCFD9@AUSP01VMBX25.collaboration host.net> References: <1269B2DF7E93764F918EE6A9C9294547E973ECCFD9@AUSP01VMBX25.collaboration host.net> X-Mailer: Eudora for Mac OS X Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 15:29:25 -0700 To: Jerry Eisner , "ecrit@ietf.org" From: Randall Gellens MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Random-Sig-Tag: 1.0b28 X-Originating-IP: [172.30.48.1] Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/eqlaZrofkcKAHiTTbj6Y59feGQQ Subject: Re: [Ecrit] ServiceEnvironment element in draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data-22 X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 22:36:26 -0000 Hi Jerry, ServiceEnvironment is only the residential/business indication. ServiceType carries the wreless indicator. At 12:48 PM -0500 8/19/14, Jerry Eisner wrote: > Why should Wireless calls be optional? The current Classes of > Service are very useful to the call taker. > > Just wondering. > > Jerry > > Jerry Eisner, ENP > Group Director - Public Safety > Red Sky Technologies, Inc. > 925 West Chicago Avenue Suite 300 > Chicago, IL 60642 > 312-432-5937 Office > 312-375-3036 Cell > jeisner@redskytech.com > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTE: This message and any attachments are solely > for the use of the intended recipient and may contain privileged, > proprietary, confidential, trade secret or other legally protected > information. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy > all copies without reading or disclosing their contents and notify > the sender of the error by reply e-mail. Your cooperation is > appreciated. > -----Original Message----- > From: Ecrit [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Randall Gellens > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 10:39 AM > To: ecrit@ietf.org > Subject: [Ecrit] ServiceEnvironment element in > draft-ietf-ecrit-additional-data-22 > > While updating additional-data-22 based on WGLC comments and > Toronto discussion, I realized that the text for the > ServiceEnvironment element needs changes. (This is the element > that indicates if a customer is considered business or residential, > and is specifically about the service contract, not the premises.) > It's currently required in all cases. > > I propose to change the text to make it optional for wireless and > required otherwise, and also mention that a business line may be > installed in a residence, and also modify the reason for need and > how used text to clarify that it may give the PSAP a hint about the > premises or context, and also mention that it replicates an ALI > field that exists in legacy. > > -- > Randall Gellens > Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only > -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- The United > States does not have a security system; it has a system for > bothering people. > --Shlomo Dror, Israeli air security expert, in 2002 > > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit -- Randall Gellens Opinions are personal; facts are suspect; I speak for myself only -------------- Randomly selected tag: --------------- Artificial Intelligence: Making computers behave like they do in the movies. From nobody Wed Aug 20 04:35:08 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFCC71A0242 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 04:35:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -13.269 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-13.269 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.668, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cazo258n1a6a for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 04:35:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com [173.37.86.80]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8322F1A020A for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 04:35:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=3820; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1408534507; x=1409744107; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:mime-version; bh=26wYgmBCrFiU5TwHS5kW9+0MkDC5Egend+aA/8fuAOE=; b=UjCG2NRZMBgjUrz34gYTq2rnjR6f77KziG1h2FcKbYGImfcuuPJKx3y1 8oR0oHeONQz0QpWyrP24qflPfNrpoGhW6FVNxf89Wt10bqlkFDkoG1Fa1 uZHzYQnlvLqwJYwFn0VXkqtTFJsHxYZMuBrDu2A4ckTNXTe2chKKgznsr A=; X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AhIFAMSG9FOtJA2F/2dsb2JhbABZgkdGgS7VMhZ3hAqBCwEMDmYXEASIVZ0MpH0XlB8FkSWLHZUHg12CNIEHAQEB X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.01,901,1400025600"; d="scan'208,217";a="345815158" Received: from alln-core-11.cisco.com ([173.36.13.133]) by rcdn-iport-9.cisco.com with ESMTP; 20 Aug 2014 11:35:06 +0000 Received: from xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com (xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com [173.37.183.88]) by alln-core-11.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id s7KBZ537020254 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:35:05 GMT Received: from xmb-rcd-x08.cisco.com ([169.254.8.110]) by xhc-rcd-x14.cisco.com ([173.37.183.88]) with mapi id 14.03.0195.001; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 06:35:05 -0500 From: "Marc Linsner (mlinsner)" To: "ecrit@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Discussion on draft-winterbottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04 Thread-Index: AQHPvGrJO0XY0onbtUWa7++7+H3FdQ== Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:35:05 +0000 Message-ID: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.82.214.27] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_D01A00275E9F0mlinsnerciscocom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/uSBQAnt3AWzXvvh3QyaqBDonKP0 Subject: [Ecrit] Discussion on draft-winterbottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04 X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:35:08 -0000 --_000_D01A00275E9F0mlinsnerciscocom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All, Thanks to all who commented on this draft, it appears we have rough consens= us to move forward. During the discussion on the work, it=92s been pointed= out that while this is a departure from the ECRIT architecture for emergen= cy calling, we should support it as ETSI will use it in their emergency cal= ling architecture. Since the ETSI emergency calling architecture is unknow= n by ECRIT, the chairs are exploring ways to liaise with ETSI so we have a = better understanding of their requirements and architecture. Hence, the chairs would like to send the following as an informal liaison t= o the chair(s) of the ETSI E2NA working group. Please respond by COB 8/25/= 14 if you believe this would be helpful as we work on this item. "The IETF ECRIT working group has agreed to take on a work item to extend t= he HELD protocol to support PSAP URI information in the response to a locat= ion request. This feature is currently not supported in the HELD protocol = as it=92s not required in the ECRIT emergency calling architecture. Theref= ore, the ECRIT working group would like to better understand the requiremen= ts of E2NA work that is driving this request. Would it be possible to exch= ange architectural features and requirements such that we can better unders= tand the usage of this proposed work item?" Thanks, Marc Linsner Roger Marshall Co-Chairs of IETF ECRIT Working Group --_000_D01A00275E9F0mlinsnerciscocom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-ID: <32A9C564CA87804C8F17850E00EAA401@emea.cisco.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All,

Thanks to all who commented on this draft, it appears we have rough co= nsensus to move forward.  During the discussion on the work, it=92s be= en pointed out that while this is a departure from the ECRIT architecture f= or emergency calling, we should support it as ETSI will use it in their emergency calling architecture.  Sinc= e the ETSI emergency calling architecture is unknown by ECRIT, the chairs a= re exploring ways to liaise with ETSI so we have a better understanding of = their requirements and architecture.

Hence, the chairs would like to send the following as an informal liai= son to the chair(s) of the ETSI E2NA working group.  Please respond by= COB 8/25/14 if you believe this would be helpful as we work on this item.<= /div>

"The IETF ECRIT working group has agreed to take on a work item t= o extend the HELD protocol to support PSAP URI information in the response = to a location request.  This feature is currently not supported in the= HELD protocol as it=92s not required in the ECRIT emergency calling architecture.  Therefore, the ECRIT working g= roup would like to better understand the requirements of E2NA work that is = driving this request.  Would it be possible to exchange architectural = features and requirements such that we can better understand the usage of this proposed work item?"

Thanks,

Marc Linsner
Roger Marshall
Co-Chairs of IETF ECRIT Working Group

--_000_D01A00275E9F0mlinsnerciscocom_-- From nobody Wed Aug 20 04:53:08 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ecrit@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7F981A0201 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 04:53:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DZEH-pAj_osa for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 04:53:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sesbmg23.ericsson.net (sesbmg23.ericsson.net [193.180.251.37]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBDBD1A0270 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 04:53:03 -0700 (PDT) X-AuditID: c1b4fb25-f791c6d00000617b-91-53f48c1d89c4 Received: from ESESSHC002.ericsson.se (Unknown_Domain [153.88.253.124]) by sesbmg23.ericsson.net (Symantec Mail Security) with SMTP id 48.EF.24955.D1C84F35; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:53:02 +0200 (CEST) Received: from ESESSMB209.ericsson.se ([169.254.9.136]) by ESESSHC002.ericsson.se ([153.88.183.24]) with mapi id 14.03.0174.001; Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:53:01 +0200 From: Christer Holmberg To: "Marc Linsner (mlinsner)" , "ecrit@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Discussion on draft-winterbottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04 Thread-Index: AQHPvGrJO0XY0onbtUWa7++7+H3FdZvZYXoA Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:53:00 +0000 Message-ID: <7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1D4221A9@ESESSMB209.ericsson.se> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [153.88.183.20] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1D4221A9ESESSMB209erics_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrBLMWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUyM+Jvja5cz5dggzvHGC0aFz1ltTh7+Tqj A5PHlN8bWT2WLPnJFMAUxWWTkpqTWZZapG+XwJVx6/lW5oJ5PhXtG9MbGJc6dzFyckgImEjs WNjOCmGLSVy4t56ti5GLQ0jgKKPEpeVfGCGcJYwSf+7OBKri4GATsJDo/qcN0iAiEC4x4fAh NhBbWMBeYuq9m4wQcQeJ9s5nrBC2kcS7jh1gNSwCqhK/vvwHq+EV8JWY3fqWBcQWEtCXOP9l ChOIzSlgIPF4xgSwXkagg76fWgMWZxYQl7j1ZD4TxKECEkv2nGeGsEUlXj7+B/WAosTV6cuh 6vMlTrxcwQSxS1Di5MwnLBMYRWYhGTULSdksJGUQcR2JBbs/sUHY2hLLFr5mhrHPHHjMhCy+ gJF9FaNocWpxUm66kbFealFmcnFxfp5eXmrJJkZgVB3c8lt1B+PlN46HGAU4GJV4eBdM+Bws xJpYVlyZe4hRmoNFSZx34bl5wUIC6YklqdmpqQWpRfFFpTmpxYcYmTg4pRoY25abyB8Qt/lf /GGa6+r/y86LXpRTn7ls6cXX7/5tPLckIabXwkC/3LqNfbrKxyg+Z5OwSDepXU8W/Vne8I8h rCJd99VJp5MKpaIBNxvUzus9DJt9+epvrmPSUQzvS3//nnp28R39vIjljVPnqZVuMzAM+hf/ fanqtx3O/y+c1pyj8/CTrrh0lhJLcUaioRZzUXEiALObbj2LAgAA Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ecrit/0KK_BIhYDuHCeSzOzOKvWbePqkI Subject: Re: [Ecrit] Discussion on draft-winterbottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04 X-BeenThere: ecrit@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 11:53:07 -0000 --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1D4221A9ESESSMB209erics_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Would it be useful to include a reference to "the ECRIT emergency calling a= rchitecture", in case that is unknown by ETSI :) Regards, Christer From: Ecrit [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marc Linsner (mlin= sner) Sent: 20. elokuuta 2014 14:35 To: ecrit@ietf.org Subject: [Ecrit] Discussion on draft-winterbottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04 All, Thanks to all who commented on this draft, it appears we have rough consens= us to move forward. During the discussion on the work, it's been pointed o= ut that while this is a departure from the ECRIT architecture for emergency= calling, we should support it as ETSI will use it in their emergency calli= ng architecture. Since the ETSI emergency calling architecture is unknown = by ECRIT, the chairs are exploring ways to liaise with ETSI so we have a be= tter understanding of their requirements and architecture. Hence, the chairs would like to send the following as an informal liaison t= o the chair(s) of the ETSI E2NA working group. Please respond by COB 8/25/= 14 if you believe this would be helpful as we work on this item. "The IETF ECRIT working group has agreed to take on a work item to extend t= he HELD protocol to support PSAP URI information in the response to a locat= ion request. This feature is currently not supported in the HELD protocol = as it's not required in the ECRIT emergency calling architecture. Therefor= e, the ECRIT working group would like to better understand the requirements= of E2NA work that is driving this request. Would it be possible to exchan= ge architectural features and requirements such that we can better understa= nd the usage of this proposed work item?" Thanks, Marc Linsner Roger Marshall Co-Chairs of IETF ECRIT Working Group --_000_7594FB04B1934943A5C02806D1A2204B1D4221A9ESESSMB209erics_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi,

 <= /p>

Would it be useful to inc= lude a reference to “the ECRIT emergency calling architecture”,= in case that is unknown by ETSI :)

 <= /p>

Regards,

 <= /p>

Christer

 <= /p>

From: Ecrit [m= ailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Marc Linsner (mlinsner)
Sent: 20. elokuuta 2014 14:35
To: ecrit@ietf.org
Subject: [Ecrit] Discussion on draft-winterbottom-ecrit-priv-loc-04<= o:p>

 

All,

 

Thanks to all who commented= on this draft, it appears we have rough consensus to move forward.  D= uring the discussion on the work, it’s been pointed out that while this is a departure from the ECRIT architecture for emergency callin= g, we should support it as ETSI will use it in their emergency calling arch= itecture.  Since the ETSI emergency calling architecture is unknown by= ECRIT, the chairs are exploring ways to liaise with ETSI so we have a better understanding of their requirement= s and architecture.

 

Hence, the chairs would lik= e to send the following as an informal liaison to the chair(s) of the ETSI = E2NA working group.  Please respond by COB 8/25/14 if you believe this would be helpful as we work on this item.

 

"The IETF ECRIT workin= g group has agreed to take on a work item to extend the HELD protocol to su= pport PSAP URI information in the response to a location request.  This feature is currently not supported in the HELD protocol as it&#= 8217;s not required in the ECRIT emergency calling architecture.  Ther= efore, the ECRIT working group would like to better understand the requirem= ents of E2NA work that is driving this request.  Would it be possible to exchange architectural features and requirem= ents such that we can better understand the usage of this proposed work ite= m?"

 

Thanks,

 

Marc Linsner

Roger Marshall

Co-Chairs of IETF ECRIT Wor= king Group

 

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