From nobody Tue Jun 6 08:13:07 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: iasa20@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: iasa20@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4B2129477 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 08:13:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.799 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.799 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-2.8] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=thinkingcat.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 70sUo4HcA3qn for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 08:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homiemail-a24.g.dreamhost.com (sub4.mail.dreamhost.com [69.163.253.135]) (using TLSv1.1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 56BDE129482 for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 08:13:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from homiemail-a24.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a24.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C0270F6787; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 08:13:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=thinkingcat.com; h=from:to :subject:date:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; s=thinkingcat.com; bh=koKkMsG1Bk7Cq4 sBrHVGMN0I/tc=; b=eJ07KP2rMSr3KPnB//FMafSqq6G2PpjnqjJA5jb2TDFAgO GGf9HxXPppWeDFDgmahe74Bm2FPXiAb0nCRQG3O6ODMsSvTDIyfWnpYWJWGFO1tm oAmqsqKDekpmeqMVtQxnDI7oe6enNumRSFWJtNnnJ8AH9Us77axfzB2Oqc/to= Received: from [10.149.48.20] (guest-wifi.norwich.edu [192.149.109.217]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: leslie@oceanpurl.net) by homiemail-a24.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A8F370F6785; Tue, 6 Jun 2017 08:13:02 -0700 (PDT) From: "Leslie Daigle" To: iasa20@ietf.org Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 11:13:00 -0400 Message-ID: <649A61F3-6768-4943-970F-4A3359D6C884@thinkingcat.com> References: <149669918481.3947.15317494459899029544@ietfa.amsl.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_MailMate_0301CC91-95E7-4628-9D41-01517B3AEDB1_=" X-Mailer: MailMate (1.9.6r5347) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [Iasa20] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-daigle-iasa-retrospective-01.txt X-BeenThere: iasa20@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Discussions_relating_to_reorganising_the_IETF_administrative_structures_in_the_so_called_=93IASA_2=2E0=94_project=2E?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2017 15:13:05 -0000 --=_MailMate_0301CC91-95E7-4628-9D41-01517B3AEDB1_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just FYI =E2=80=94 updated based on comments on the -00 version from last= =20 Fall. Leslie. --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Leslie Daigle Principal, ThinkingCat Enterprises LLC ldaigle@thinkingcat.com ------------------------------------------------------------------- Forwarded message: > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org > Subject: I-D Action: draft-daigle-iasa-retrospective-01.txt > Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2017 14:46:24 -0700 > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts=20 > directories. > > > Title : After the first decade: IASA Retrospective > Author : Leslie Daigle > Filename : draft-daigle-iasa-retrospective-01.txt > Pages : 13 > Date : 2017-06-05 > > Abstract: > The IETF Administrative Support Activity was formally established=20 > and > undertaken as a project of the Internet Society in 2005. In the > following 10+ years, the IETF has grown and changed, as have the > responsibilities that fall to the IASA. > > This document reflects on some of those changes and the=20 > implications > within the IASA structure, providing some areas for further > discussion to consider evolving the IASA and the IETF/ISOC > relationship. > > > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-daigle-iasa-retrospective/ > > There are also htmlized versions available at: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-daigle-iasa-retrospective-01 > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-daigle-iasa-retrospective-0= 1 > > A diff from the previous version is available at: > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-daigle-iasa-retrospective-01 > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of=20 > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt --=_MailMate_0301CC91-95E7-4628-9D41-01517B3AEDB1_= Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just FYI =E2=80=94 updated based on comments on the -00 v= ersion from last Fall.

Leslie.

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A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts direct= ories.


Title : After the first decade: IASA Retrospective
Author : Leslie Daigle
Filename : draft-daigle-iasa-retrospective-01.txt
Pages : 13
Date : 2017-06-05

Abstract:
The IETF Administrative Support Activity was formally established and<= br> undertaken as a project of the Internet Society in 2005. In the
following 10+ years, the IETF has grown and changed, as have the
responsibilities that fall to the IASA.

This document reflects on some of those changes and the implications within the IASA structure, providing some areas for further
discussion to consider evolving the IASA and the IETF/ISOC
relationship.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-daigle-i= asa-retrospective/

There are also htmlized versions available at:
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-daigle-iasa-retr= ospective-01
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/dr= aft-daigle-iasa-retrospective-01

A diff from the previous version is available at:
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-= daigle-iasa-retrospective-01


Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

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--=_MailMate_0301CC91-95E7-4628-9D41-01517B3AEDB1_=-- From nobody Fri Jun 9 07:44:54 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: iasa20@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: iasa20@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EBC6129B5E for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 07:44:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cdt.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id EhXwIU6mKAhe for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 07:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ua0-x22a.google.com (mail-ua0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C62C129B51 for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 07:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ua0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id q15so34101686uaa.2 for ; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 07:44:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cdt.org; s=google; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=tb87oy56tmW4wZXPCbBJuxFvGvdI38CTvaG7kmhW+HM=; b=A5IiVSUrBu7LeKZOZB6h99eu8Z7KZjXsxophDTYrhN2FO3GJzPIhnZKTzQtD1B8G4g QYzIPNC0C96gBE3TUXbgZ20/xdFbsBiW92zNzQzyQdn/1lhCZa8LTfqrZqbw5UyYY1ls cXfY2Mo28RDgTny+br9SQkWvQ/9VVqOpxwbKw= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=tb87oy56tmW4wZXPCbBJuxFvGvdI38CTvaG7kmhW+HM=; b=YRmebFXqgQ5FSvFXzgp+3jt8pRbSKCt4CID43doGM30sB4vR9kDuesRsP9aqbUVo+N c2V5HXUcOqr+7loGXcaDyq4LF0hsNDHgGiQXrAoIL07PHw4rOZTW50bCjobkwlcM47t0 pSPbjTfUBfLPDPDYicQGL+TM1TeLiXltmpDVBhNrpf61LP61Yc+14XISB6aTHDoHVmhx ZTPjhBJ9CWQajxGdx9XugJYh1BJDLkUsMTfi8rHJ/hxR9J7nL74Vtb6Obed3B/aXgItp fLSq0Kw8IJrY3y/wzs2skaKDuNp9Tgzd2GyY/dKQFGcDU7E9jFY+TbM2mZ+rXAH4qQn3 F2Iw== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcAuDIiUYxef/6WtYn19axLJDQy9RvP0p9HTugAaA+qM9aR31L0T Szp1kSAjQsVkl8SGcXZ3A8zInYBggNwDIwgrYA== X-Received: by 10.176.18.95 with SMTP id s31mr19446525uac.95.1497019489096; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 07:44:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.49.12 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 07:44:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 10:44:28 -0400 Message-ID: To: iasa20@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: [Iasa20] update on work of IASA 2.0 Design Team... X-BeenThere: iasa20@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Discussions_relating_to_reorganising_the_IETF_administrative_structures_in_the_so_called_=93IASA_2=2E0=94_project=2E?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2017 14:44:54 -0000 Dear IASA 2.0 WG, The IASA 2.0 Design Team that Alissa announced to this list a few weeks ago [1] has started work and we wanted let you know how that work is progressing. We have spent a few weeks getting organized (list, repo, outline of work, etc.). We aim to have a document for IETF 99 with the goal of documenting the options in terms of IASA structural changes. That document will include analysis of each option, and we hope to make a recommendation if anything clear emerges from the analysis. Of course, the WG will ultimately decide what to do with this input. We will be conducting a few interviews where we need a bit more input. We may reach out to a number of you with questions via email or over the phone, and we'd appreciate your feedback. Please feel free to ask questions, etc. here. cheers, Joe (on behalf of IASA 2.0 Design Team of Jari Arkko, Leslie Daigle, Eric Rescorla, Brian Haberman, and Joe Hall) [1]: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/iasa20/cCT7z3mDJtldxGIxMQCphp5qcV8 -- Joseph Lorenzo Hall Chief Technologist, Center for Democracy & Technology [https://www.cdt.org] 1401 K ST NW STE 200, Washington DC 20005-3497 e: joe@cdt.org, p: 202.407.8825, pgp: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 1607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871 From nobody Fri Jun 9 07:52:50 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: iasa20@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: iasa20@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E4F126C3D for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 07:52:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.7 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cdt.org Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bGY6oj-68bSL for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 07:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vk0-x22a.google.com (mail-vk0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43B00124BFA for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 07:52:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vk0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id g66so29035900vki.1 for ; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 07:52:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cdt.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=VIcSM4AgLcA7XJOr4IpbkD1BHXojfzkZs+39Nk471vA=; b=DP1ezxRbCpGjItuPHRhOTC6V3bFTsLXqDBon5QhgMMw41J36Lockbg2+2ZmUbYrYez StMeI9tuxFpTQXIUYwKyFrE+B0H0EDHZVZQmp1RDXeSEcuWZ8MLD81bAC1DidklNP2d3 oGypTsuDGY342ASl4g1oxeIYNAuvRrVj1LtoY= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=VIcSM4AgLcA7XJOr4IpbkD1BHXojfzkZs+39Nk471vA=; b=PgTBdSIx3g2sKFFLFOK+9lE1m2CQp/HtRUqdLS/EGNRFX6NMPBorQ7C/JUC+vs0BKb s+6Jv+JGyBWxnuDjRr/l8bhxSd9c5Pml+CUhAQfdmCGS5fCnmO2WP3wlj6bWu2tAGVv9 VlBEqxdV/xke+JSAAQWL9sV+ILRdaBW2ak76tGv2B+C8NqXT7tB/3wFT/BsdT3qJz8lw wax8eElC5u9Nqiv4T1jRmSWS2QrXu+i7sN6i2UYtJw7M9PcGAHLMmPD/wZYGyYBrI50E yiQ/We0oF8Ysavs+IUzFFNSh1W8UmTieHOk5fBpDgyv8ceZS+eT/qO1kBKzI2xGfrHwh Am4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcCaz+8uNhtc8ro9n8byJpSMR68fRX/l82vSYItdt77r3PhJw8RB Nov3zA1dj/lp9pSsZQ+MyPgEDcvumTcfrpQ= X-Received: by 10.31.235.1 with SMTP id j1mr12929343vkh.9.1497019966065; Fri, 09 Jun 2017 07:52:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.103.49.12 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Jun 2017 07:52:25 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Joseph Lorenzo Hall Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 10:52:25 -0400 Message-ID: To: iasa20@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Iasa20] update on work of IASA 2.0 Design Team... X-BeenThere: iasa20@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Discussions_relating_to_reorganising_the_IETF_administrative_structures_in_the_so_called_=93IASA_2=2E0=94_project=2E?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2017 14:52:49 -0000 Someone pointed out to me off-list that we haven't decided yet if a WG is appropriate, so please s/WG/broader IETF community/ if you can in your head. Apologies, crazy week in DC! On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall wrote: > Dear IASA 2.0 WG, > > The IASA 2.0 Design Team that Alissa announced to this list a few > weeks ago [1] has started work and we wanted let you know how that > work is progressing. > > We have spent a few weeks getting organized (list, repo, outline of > work, etc.). We aim to have a document for IETF 99 with the goal of > documenting the options in terms of IASA structural changes. That > document will include analysis of each option, and we hope to make a > recommendation if anything clear emerges from the analysis. Of course, > the WG will ultimately decide what to do with this input. > > We will be conducting a few interviews where we need a bit more input. > We may reach out to a number of you with questions via email or over > the phone, and we'd appreciate your feedback. > > Please feel free to ask questions, etc. here. > > cheers, Joe > > (on behalf of IASA 2.0 Design Team of Jari Arkko, Leslie Daigle, Eric > Rescorla, Brian Haberman, and Joe Hall) > > [1]: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/iasa20/cCT7z3mDJtldxGIxMQCphp5qcV8 > > -- > Joseph Lorenzo Hall > Chief Technologist, Center for Democracy & Technology [https://www.cdt.org] > 1401 K ST NW STE 200, Washington DC 20005-3497 > e: joe@cdt.org, p: 202.407.8825, pgp: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key > Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 1607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871 -- Joseph Lorenzo Hall Chief Technologist, Center for Democracy & Technology [https://www.cdt.org] 1401 K ST NW STE 200, Washington DC 20005-3497 e: joe@cdt.org, p: 202.407.8825, pgp: https://josephhall.org/gpg-key Fingerprint: 3CA2 8D7B 9F6D DBD3 4B10 1607 5F86 6987 40A9 A871 From nobody Fri Jun 23 17:10:26 2017 Return-Path: X-Original-To: iasa20@ietf.org Delivered-To: iasa20@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D839E129B8D; Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:07:03 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: iasa20@ietf.org, alissa@cooperw.in X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.55.1 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <149826282387.7840.1657836539907244088.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:07:03 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Iasa20] iasa20 - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 99 X-BeenThere: iasa20@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 List-Id: =?iso-8859-1?q?Discussions_relating_to_reorganising_the_IETF_administrative_structures_in_the_so_called_=93IASA_2=2E0=94_project=2E?= List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2017 00:07:04 -0000 Dear Alissa Cooper, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. iasa20 Session 1 (2:00:00) Tuesday, Afternoon Session II 1550-1750 Room Name: Grand Hilton Ballroom size: 250 --------------------------------------------- Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: IASA 2.0 Area Name: General Area Session Requester: Alissa Cooper Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 100 Conflicts to Avoid: First Priority: wugh mtgvenue dispatch stir modern Second Priority: saag tsvarea rtgarea intarea opsarea People who must be present: Eric Rescorla Jari Arkko Jon Peterson Suresh Krishnan Leslie Daigle Mirja Kuehlewind Resources Requested: Special Requests: An afternoon session would be preferable. ---------------------------------------------------------