From nobody Thu Sep 4 08:10:59 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6A351A8910 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 08:10:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.281 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.281 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, LOTS_OF_MONEY=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Is7HIEFwbo8G for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 08:10:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oxalide-out.extra.cea.fr (oxalide-out.extra.cea.fr [132.168.224.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C30A21A8913 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 08:10:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by oxalide.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.3) with ESMTP id s84FAPmG021916 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 17:10:25 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 5FF9C2032E8 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 17:10:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet2.intra.cea.fr (muguet2.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.7]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54B362031E4 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 17:10:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (is010446-4.intra.cea.fr [10.8.33.116]) by muguet2.intra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.2) with ESMTP id s84FAAaV016887 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 17:10:25 +0200 Message-ID: <540880D2.8080907@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 17:10:10 +0200 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "its@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060906030008090202070303" Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/its/1P3xFoyAClOxv9Sjh1BaJMXsGqQ Subject: [geonet/its] Audioconf Friday 6PM Paris time (9AM Pacific time) - way forward for geonet/its X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "GeoNet BoF discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2014 15:10:56 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060906030008090202070303 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, We propose a brief audioconference tomorrow Friday at 6PM Paris time (9AM Pacific time) to discuss advancements of geonet/its. PIN code: 26174894# Phone numbers: France +33 172283002 US +1 646 416 9452 (more countries below) Length: half-hour. Topic: way forward for geonet/its: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/its/current/msg00893.html Alex ----------------------------- Pays Type Langue Numéro de téléphone Afrique du Sud Gratuit Anglais 800999292 Afrique du Sud Local Anglais +27 873534935 Allemagne Gratuit Anglais 08005889773 Allemagne Local Anglais +49 30221510073 Arabie Saoudite Gratuit Anglais 8008110198 Argentine Gratuit Anglais 08003330614 Argentine Local +54 1153527814 Australie Gratuit Anglais 1800043275 Australie Local Anglais +61 386521051 Autriche Gratuit Anglais 0800999650 Autriche Local Anglais +43 19289669 Bahrain Gratuit Anglais 80061157 Belgique Gratuit Anglais 080048370 Belgique Local Anglais +32 24006808 Biélorussie Gratuit Anglais 882000110377 Brésil Gratuit Anglais 08008911842 Brésil Local Anglais +55 1133517045 Bulgarie Gratuit Anglais 008001100134 Bulgarie Local +359 24916161 Canada Gratuit Anglais 18778555653 Chili Gratuit Anglais 12300202481 Chili Local +56 29382197 Chine Local Anglais +86 4006815427 Chypre Gratuit Anglais 80096173 Chypre Local +357 22030503 Colombie Gratuit Anglais 01800-9-156313 Costa Rica Gratuit Anglais 08000150536 Croatie Gratuit Anglais 0800223019 Croatie Local +385 17776504 Danemark Gratuit Anglais 80883260 Danemark Local +45 78775219 Égypte Gratuit 8000000663 Émirats Arabes Unis Gratuit Anglais 800035702761 Équateur Gratuit Anglais 1800010525 Espagne Gratuit Anglais 800099309 Espagne Local Anglais +34 914140787 Estonie Local +372 6682724 États-Unis Gratuit Anglais +1 8667934272 États-Unis Local Anglais +1 646 416 9452 Finlande Gratuit Anglais 0800778987 Finlande Local Anglais +358 942599565 France Gratuit Anglais 0805103002 France Gratuit Français 0805103001 France Local Anglais +33 172283002 France Local Français +33 172283001 Grèce Gratuit Anglais 00800126624 Grèce Local Anglais +30 210 969 6438 Hong Kong Gratuit Anglais 800933235 Hong Kong Local Anglais +852 306 898 28 Hongrie Gratuit Anglais 0680018021 Hongrie Local +36 14088466 Inde Gratuit Anglais 18002004099 Inde Local +91 2233019490 Indonésie Gratuit Anglais 001-803-011-3593 Irlande Gratuit Anglais 1800931811 Irlande Local Anglais +353 12477818 Islande Gratuit Anglais 8008716 Israël Gratuit Anglais 1809303030 Israël Local +972 722713750 Italie Gratuit Anglais 800906616 Italie Local Anglais +39 0236003663 Japon Gratuit Anglais 00531120929 Japon Local Anglais +81 345780654 Lettonie Gratuit Anglais 80002176 Lettonie Local +371 67859492 Lithuanie Gratuit Anglais 880030244 Lithuanie Local +370 52140424 Luxembourg Gratuit Anglais 80027185 Luxembourg Local Anglais +352 27 302 181 Malaisie Gratuit Anglais 1800803321 Malaisie Local Anglais +60 320535039 Mexique Gratuit Anglais 0018665047436 Mexique Local +52 5547460477 Monaco Gratuit Anglais 80093264 Norvège Gratuit Anglais 80013830 Norvège Local Anglais +47 23500553 Nouvelle Zélande Gratuit Anglais 0800446706 Nouvelle Zélande Local Anglais +64 9308 3083 Panama Gratuit Anglais 8002263212 Panama Local +507 8339248 Pays-Bas Gratuit Anglais 08000233588 Pays-Bas Local Anglais +31 207132757 Péru Gratuit Anglais 080053196 Péru Local +51 17070478 Pologne Gratuit Anglais 008001114889 Pologne Local Anglais +48 223970413 Portugal Gratuit Anglais 800860261 Portugal Local +351 308801199 Qatar Gratuit Anglais 00800100060 République de Corée Gratuit Anglais 00308140645 République de Corée Local Anglais +82 234800127 République Tchèque Gratuit Anglais 800143107 République Tchèque Local Anglais +420 228880046 Roumanie Local Anglais +40 318102520 Royaume-Uni Gratuit Anglais 08002799127 Royaume-Uni Local Anglais +44 1616018919 Russie Gratuit Anglais 81080027273011 Russie Local Anglais 74992701969 Serbia Gratuit Français 0800190388 Singapour Gratuit Anglais 8001204319 Singapour Local Anglais +65 31582153 Slovaquie Gratuit Anglais 0800042093 Slovaquie Local Anglais +421 2 5010 2623 Slovénie Gratuit Anglais 080080104 Slovénie Local +38682880097 Suède Gratuit Anglais 0200887626 Suède Local Anglais +46 0856610797 Suisse Gratuit Anglais 0800000245 Suisse Local Anglais +41 445804275 Taïwan Gratuit Anglais 00801126774 Taïwan Local Anglais +886 2 8723 1012 Thaïlande Gratuit Anglais 001800120665261 Turquie Gratuit Anglais 00800142074892 Turquie Local Anglais +90 2127052905 Ukraine Gratuit Anglais 0800501672 Uruguay Gratuit Anglais 00040190062 Venezuela Gratuit Anglais 08001004016 Vietnam Local Anglais +84 444581540 --------------060906030008090202070303 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello,

We propose a brief audioconference tomorrow Friday at 6PM Paris time (9AM Pacific time) to discuss advancements of geonet/its.

PIN code: 26174894#
Phone numbers:
France +33 172283002
US +1 646 416 9452
(more countries below)

Length: half-hour.
Topic: way forward for geonet/its:
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/its/current/msg00893.html

Alex

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Pays Type Langue Numéro de téléphone
Afrique du Sud Gratuit Anglais 800999292
Afrique du Sud Local Anglais +27 873534935
Allemagne Gratuit Anglais 08005889773
Allemagne Local Anglais +49 30221510073
Arabie Saoudite Gratuit Anglais 8008110198
Argentine Gratuit Anglais 08003330614
Argentine Local +54 1153527814
Australie Gratuit Anglais 1800043275
Australie Local Anglais +61 386521051
Autriche Gratuit Anglais 0800999650
Autriche Local Anglais +43 19289669
Bahrain Gratuit Anglais 80061157
Belgique Gratuit Anglais 080048370
Belgique Local Anglais +32 24006808
Biélorussie Gratuit Anglais 882000110377
Brésil Gratuit Anglais 08008911842
Brésil Local Anglais +55 1133517045
Bulgarie Gratuit Anglais 008001100134
Bulgarie Local +359 24916161
Canada Gratuit Anglais 18778555653
Chili Gratuit Anglais 12300202481
Chili Local +56 29382197
Chine Local Anglais +86 4006815427
Chypre Gratuit Anglais 80096173
Chypre Local +357 22030503
Colombie Gratuit Anglais 01800-9-156313
Costa Rica Gratuit Anglais 08000150536
Croatie Gratuit Anglais 0800223019
Croatie Local +385 17776504
Danemark Gratuit Anglais 80883260
Danemark Local +45 78775219
Égypte Gratuit 8000000663
Émirats Arabes Unis Gratuit Anglais 800035702761
Équateur Gratuit Anglais 1800010525
Espagne Gratuit Anglais 800099309
Espagne Local Anglais +34 914140787
Estonie Local +372 6682724
États-Unis Gratuit Anglais +1 8667934272
États-Unis Local Anglais +1 646 416 9452
Finlande Gratuit Anglais 0800778987
Finlande Local Anglais +358 942599565
France Gratuit Anglais 0805103002
France Gratuit Français 0805103001
France Local Anglais +33 172283002
France Local Français +33 172283001
Grèce Gratuit Anglais 00800126624
Grèce Local Anglais +30 210 969 6438
Hong Kong Gratuit Anglais 800933235
Hong Kong Local Anglais +852 306 898 28
Hongrie Gratuit Anglais 0680018021
Hongrie Local +36 14088466
Inde Gratuit Anglais 18002004099
Inde Local +91 2233019490
Indonésie Gratuit Anglais 001-803-011-3593
Irlande Gratuit Anglais 1800931811
Irlande Local Anglais +353 12477818
Islande Gratuit Anglais 8008716
Israël Gratuit Anglais 1809303030
Israël Local +972 722713750
Italie Gratuit Anglais 800906616
Italie Local Anglais +39 0236003663
Japon Gratuit Anglais 00531120929
Japon Local Anglais +81 345780654
Lettonie Gratuit Anglais 80002176
Lettonie Local +371 67859492
Lithuanie Gratuit Anglais 880030244
Lithuanie Local +370 52140424
Luxembourg Gratuit Anglais 80027185
Luxembourg Local Anglais +352 27 302 181
Malaisie Gratuit Anglais 1800803321
Malaisie Local Anglais +60 320535039
Mexique Gratuit Anglais 0018665047436
Mexique Local +52 5547460477
Monaco Gratuit Anglais 80093264
Norvège Gratuit Anglais 80013830
Norvège Local Anglais +47 23500553
Nouvelle Zélande Gratuit Anglais 0800446706
Nouvelle Zélande Local Anglais +64 9308 3083
Panama Gratuit Anglais 8002263212
Panama Local +507 8339248
Pays-Bas Gratuit Anglais 08000233588
Pays-Bas Local Anglais +31 207132757
Péru Gratuit Anglais 080053196
Péru Local +51 17070478
Pologne Gratuit Anglais 008001114889
Pologne Local Anglais +48 223970413
Portugal Gratuit Anglais 800860261
Portugal Local +351 308801199
Qatar Gratuit Anglais 00800100060
République de Corée Gratuit Anglais 00308140645
République de Corée Local Anglais +82 234800127
République Tchèque Gratuit Anglais 800143107
République Tchèque Local Anglais +420 228880046
Roumanie Local Anglais +40 318102520
Royaume-Uni Gratuit Anglais 08002799127
Royaume-Uni Local Anglais +44 1616018919
Russie Gratuit Anglais 81080027273011
Russie Local Anglais 74992701969
Serbia Gratuit Français 0800190388
Singapour Gratuit Anglais 8001204319
Singapour Local Anglais +65 31582153
Slovaquie Gratuit Anglais 0800042093
Slovaquie Local Anglais +421 2 5010 2623
Slovénie Gratuit Anglais 080080104
Slovénie Local +38682880097
Suède Gratuit Anglais 0200887626
Suède Local Anglais +46 0856610797
Suisse Gratuit Anglais 0800000245
Suisse Local Anglais +41 445804275
Taïwan Gratuit Anglais 00801126774
Taïwan Local Anglais +886 2 8723 1012
Thaïlande Gratuit Anglais 001800120665261
Turquie Gratuit Anglais 00800142074892
Turquie Local Anglais +90 2127052905
Ukraine Gratuit Anglais 0800501672
Uruguay Gratuit Anglais 00040190062
Venezuela Gratuit Anglais 08001004016
Vietnam Local Anglais +84 444581540
--------------060906030008090202070303-- From nobody Thu Sep 4 23:31:46 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3825C1A045C for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 23:31:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, LOTS_OF_MONEY=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vvoed5alD2_v for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 23:31:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pd0-x234.google.com (mail-pd0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c02::234]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4BA11A0444 for ; Thu, 4 Sep 2014 23:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pd0-f180.google.com with SMTP id p10so15256792pdj.25 for ; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 23:31:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=qqN6XOwJcAr+iceNbtExm4OBUK1Fy4t02JhkOA2AP6Q=; b=fbS/QvN0BtSYayezBRwgIYvW79qUhbpf04KJbWgHvYotQyH/TnxcrfNqivFo8QoCX0 CQBMgauO2GBOm5eNQdsFcz08DuCIWMzlMci4tHR0RL8OOzZePJINQsm3ePdftCOpnWGV FG79uPkBMHFoJeTKQfW80fwKKtNo/KtuShT9OYzJPXoSQezmkL2zKBIdy1iyuRDNXQtq TkCozbbgYIJWUo2A8XrEwiOLKX92cCbTl/so45BMqMfantBAr3bilpUsNGg3IpQt6mir QzkjzLnPPyo3To6mlqFYIoSnuREZNNBwxh8c7QAJsbIJQtTHEedXB2gRdCLHch3M8mJX NK2w== X-Received: by 10.66.139.36 with SMTP id qv4mr17691211pab.53.1409898702432; Thu, 04 Sep 2014 23:31:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.100] ([203.230.193.47]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id gt6sm943270pac.44.2014.09.04.23.31.40 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 04 Sep 2014 23:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_6D427BBD-9412-4074-8F8C-72CB66A86D4B" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Jong-Hyouk Lee In-Reply-To: <540880D2.8080907@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 15:30:11 +0900 Message-Id: <227F245F-A57D-49FE-B11C-8EDA9A43A098@gmail.com> References: <540880D2.8080907@gmail.com> To: Alexandru Petrescu X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/its/onsL79U_6vngSccaxV2qfSuPn0M Cc: "its@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [geonet/its] Audioconf Friday 6PM Paris time (9AM Pacific time) - way forward for geonet/its X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "GeoNet BoF discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2014 06:31:45 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_6D427BBD-9412-4074-8F8C-72CB66A86D4B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Alex, The doodle to fix the date and time should have been provided. 6 PM = (Paris time) is 1 AM in Korea. ;( What I want to discuss in the audio-conference are: 1. Considered architectures for geonet/its 2. Need of a document that describe the requirements and use-cases in = terms of security J. -- Jong-Hyouk Lee, living somewhere between /dev/null and /dev/random Protocol Engineering Lab., Sangmyung University #email: jonghyouk@gmail.com #webpage: https://sites.google.com/site/hurryon On 2014. 9. 5., at =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 12:10, Alexandru Petrescu = wrote: > Hello, >=20 > We propose a brief audioconference tomorrow Friday at 6PM Paris time = (9AM Pacific time) to discuss advancements of geonet/its. >=20 > PIN code: 26174894# > Phone numbers: > France +33 172283002 > US +1 646 416 9452 > (more countries below) >=20 > Length: half-hour. > Topic: way forward for geonet/its: > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/its/current/msg00893.html >=20 > Alex >=20 > ----------------------------- > Pays Type Langue Num=C3=A9ro de t=C3=A9l=C3=A9phone > Afrique du Sud Gratuit Anglais 800999292 > Afrique du Sud Local Anglais +27 873534935 > Allemagne Gratuit Anglais 08005889773 > Allemagne Local Anglais 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P=C3=A9ru Gratuit Anglais 080053196 > P=C3=A9ru Local +51 17070478 > Pologne Gratuit Anglais 008001114889 > Pologne Local Anglais +48 223970413 > Portugal Gratuit Anglais 800860261 > Portugal Local +351 308801199 > Qatar Gratuit Anglais 00800100060 > R=C3=A9publique de Cor=C3=A9e Gratuit Anglais 00308140645 > R=C3=A9publique de Cor=C3=A9e Local Anglais +82 234800127 > R=C3=A9publique Tch=C3=A8que Gratuit Anglais 800143107 > R=C3=A9publique Tch=C3=A8que Local Anglais +420 228880046 > Roumanie Local Anglais +40 318102520 > Royaume-Uni Gratuit Anglais 08002799127 > Royaume-Uni Local Anglais +44 1616018919 > Russie Gratuit Anglais 81080027273011 > Russie Local Anglais 74992701969 > Serbia Gratuit Fran=C3=A7ais 0800190388 > Singapour Gratuit Anglais 8001204319 > Singapour Local Anglais +65 31582153 > Slovaquie Gratuit Anglais 0800042093 > Slovaquie Local Anglais +421 2 5010 2623 > Slov=C3=A9nie Gratuit Anglais 080080104 > Slov=C3=A9nie Local +38682880097 > Su=C3=A8de Gratuit Anglais 0200887626 > Su=C3=A8de Local Anglais +46 0856610797 > Suisse Gratuit Anglais 0800000245 > Suisse Local Anglais +41 445804275 > Ta=C3=AFwan Gratuit Anglais 00801126774 > Ta=C3=AFwan Local Anglais +886 2 8723 1012 > Tha=C3=AFlande Gratuit Anglais 001800120665261 > Turquie Gratuit Anglais 00800142074892 > Turquie Local Anglais +90 2127052905 > Ukraine Gratuit Anglais 0800501672 > Uruguay Gratuit Anglais 00040190062 > Venezuela Gratuit Anglais 08001004016 > Vietnam Local Anglais +84 444581540 > _______________________________________________ > its mailing list > its@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its --Apple-Mail=_6D427BBD-9412-4074-8F8C-72CB66A86D4B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Alex,

The doodle to fix the = date and time should have been provided. 6 PM (Paris time) is 1 AM in = Korea. ;(

What I want to discuss in the = audio-conference are:

1. Considered = architectures for geonet/its
2. Need of a document that = describe the requirements and use-cases in terms of = security

J.
--
Jong-Hyouk Lee, living somewhere between /dev/null = and /dev/random
Protocol Engineering Lab., Sangmyung = University


On 2014. 9. 5., at =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 12:10, Alexandru = Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:

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Hello,

We propose a brief audioconference tomorrow Friday at 6PM Paris time (9AM Pacific time) to discuss advancements of = geonet/its.

PIN code: 26174894#
Phone numbers:
France +33 172283002
US +1 646 416 9452
(more countries below)

Length: half-hour.
Topic: way forward for geonet/its:
ht= tp://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/its/current/msg00893.html

Alex

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Afrique du Sud Gratuit Anglais 800999292
Afrique du Sud Local Anglais +27 873534935
Allemagne Gratuit Anglais 08005889773
Allemagne Local Anglais +49 30221510073
Arabie Saoudite Gratuit Anglais 8008110198
Argentine Gratuit Anglais 08003330614
Argentine Local +54 1153527814
Australie Gratuit Anglais 1800043275
Australie Local Anglais +61 386521051
Autriche Gratuit Anglais 0800999650
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Bahrain Gratuit Anglais 80061157
Belgique Gratuit Anglais 080048370
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Chili Gratuit Anglais 12300202481
Chili Local +56 29382197
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Hong Kong Gratuit Anglais 800933235
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Inde Gratuit Anglais 18002004099
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= --Apple-Mail=_6D427BBD-9412-4074-8F8C-72CB66A86D4B-- From nobody Mon Sep 8 21:49:05 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A4641A0706 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 21:49:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 2.717 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.717 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6QcHiVqGXdyx for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 21:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp1-g21.free.fr (smtp1-g21.free.fr [IPv6:2a01:e0c:1:1599::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 714831A0703 for ; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 21:49:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.229.156.225]) by smtp1-g21.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBDB0940034 for ; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 06:48:58 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <540E86AA.9000000@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 06:48:42 +0200 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.0; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "its@ietf.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 140908-2, 08/09/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/its/o4cwgi7n7wiYEksJ19zTIx88EgA Subject: [geonet/its] Minutes of the geonet/its teleconference 6 September 2014 X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "GeoNet BoF discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 04:49:03 -0000 Minutes of the geonet/its teleconference 6 September 2014 18h-19h CET Participants: Dimitri Papadimitriou (DP), Alex Petrescu (AP), Richard Roy (RR) RR presented an overview of his thoughts on recent geonet/its postings/activities and suggestions on possible directions for this effort. The key observation is that there seem to be at least two (possibly more?) distinct classes of use cases involving the exchange of information between a sender and one or more receivers in a volume of space over a specific time interval: 1) geo-dissemination (broadcast/multicast/groupcast) to a specific temporal-geographic (Dt,Dx,Dy,Dz) region; and 2) geo-discovery of one or more paths between a source and one or more destinations (unicast or groupcast) for the purposes of setting up (reliable) real-time exchanges (sessions). There are many use cases in ITS that rely on dissemination of packets to certain geographical areas, including V2V communications for relaying road conditions (e.g. black ice warning) to nearby (or not so nearby) vehicles. While such applications are of high priority in ITS, it's not necessarily clear that they all require the use of IP networking. Once the information arrives at the destination, the job is done. Attempting to discover an IP path to the destination, then attempting to send packets using that path is inefficient and slow. There are also many ITS use cases that involve setting up reliable links between nodes in geographic regions, most notably the creation of communication links during disasters where communication between public service agencies to nodes in the affected areas is a paramount importance (e.g. "connect me with any or all police cars in the area affected by the disaster!"). In such situations, the objective is to establish one or more "reliable" paths between a source and destination(s) over a potentially heterogeneous set of path segments, some of which may use IP and others not. This seems to involve a preliminary "geo-discovery" phase where IP paths are configured using geographic information to set up the appropriate paths and to identify the specified recipients. The obvious question is: are there more distinct classes than just geo-dissemination and geo-discovery? The issue of how to move the effort forward was then brought up. DP expressed and motivated several worries about lack of activity on the email list. He also made process comments with respect to RG vs WG, and with respect to Chairmanship. AP made comments about what it takes to drive a BoF, about a potential necessity of co-chairing, about necessity of co-chairmanship from the industry. He also commented that Sept 25th is the deadline for BoF requests for Honolulu. RR commented that various governmental stakeholders around the globe would be interested in seeing both capabilities deployed in a timely manner as transportation safety and efficiency is significantly improved with these capabilities. The possibility of holding several (possibly three) sessions at the Honolulu meeting to discuss these issues and to decide on a way forward was discussed and thought to be a good idea. The consensus was that these should be formal meetings rather than informal gatherings to generate serious interest and get broader participation. Alex --- Ce courrier =C3=A9lectronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveilla= nt parce que la protection avast! 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(VPS 140910-0, 10/09/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/its/U8Ox1xfyVWSS011z_tca2E-UUp0 Cc: "its@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [geonet/its] organizing teleconference time Western EU, California, Korea X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "GeoNet BoF discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:57:48 -0000 Jong-Hyouk, I would like to hold another audioconference next Friday - September 13th. But it looks very difficult to accommodate Korea, California and Western Europe times. I propose that we start discussion by email, have teleconf this Friday 6pm Paris time (9am California), and eventually another teleconf 9am Paris time (16pm Korea time). Alex On 05/09/2014 08:30, Jong-Hyouk Lee wrote: > Alex, > > The doodle to fix the date and time should have been provided. 6 PM > (Paris time) is 1 AM in Korea. ;( > > What I want to discuss in the audio-conference are: > > 1. Considered architectures for geonet/its > 2. Need of a document that describe the requirements and use-cases in > terms of security > > J. > -- > Jong-Hyouk Lee, living somewhere between /dev/null and /dev/random > Protocol Engineering Lab., Sangmyung University > > #email: jonghyouk@gmail.com > #webpage: https://sites.google.com/site/hurryon > > On 2014. 9. 5., at 오전 12:10, Alexandru Petrescu > > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> We propose a brief audioconference tomorrow Friday at 6PM Paris time >> (9AM Pacific time) to discuss advancements of geonet/its. >> >> PIN code: 26174894# >> Phone numbers: >> France +33 172283002 >> US +1 646 416 9452 >> (more countries below) >> >> Length: half-hour. >> Topic: way forward for geonet/its: >> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/its/current/msg00893.html >> >> Alex >> >> ----------------------------- >> Pays Type Langue Numéro de téléphone >> Afrique du Sud Gratuit Anglais 800999292 >> Afrique du Sud Local Anglais +27 873534935 >> Allemagne Gratuit Anglais 08005889773 >> Allemagne Local Anglais 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10 10:09:42 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8E91A8F3E for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:09:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 1.017 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.017 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FREEMAIL_REPLY=1, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Aq8OUfM0N9SQ for ; Wed, 10 Sep 2014 10:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp6-g21.free.fr (smtp6-g21.free.fr [212.27.42.6]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D50B41A9113 for ; 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(VPS 140910-0, 10/09/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/its/seA22BzFoNEw65n_KiZwu253UZs Cc: "its@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [geonet/its] architecture, and security, use-cases and requirements X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "GeoNet BoF discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:09:39 -0000 On 05/09/2014 08:30, Jong-Hyouk Lee wrote: [...] > 1. Considered architectures for geonet/its Jong-Hyouk, Currently we do not have an architecture document. We do have a problem statement draft-karagiannis-geonet-problem-statement-00. As you have noticed, many of the concepts on geonet relate to ITS and to some results of familiar projects. What do you think a geonet architecture discussion should talk about? Do you mean topology with RSUs? Do you mean layering of protocols? > 2. Need of a document that describe the requirements and use-cases in > terms of security Certainly yes. Security discussion is most welcome. Consider the geo-discovery of paths between a source and one or more destinations. E.g. given a location xyz, find the IP addresses who previously recorded their presence in that location and identify an IP path to them. Could a security model apply to this geo-discovery? What would be the requirements and the use-cases in terms of security? Alex > > J. > -- > Jong-Hyouk Lee, living somewhere between /dev/null and /dev/random > Protocol Engineering Lab., Sangmyung University > > #email: jonghyouk@gmail.com > #webpage: https://sites.google.com/site/hurryon > > On 2014. 9. 5., at 오전 12:10, Alexandru Petrescu > > wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> We propose a brief audioconference tomorrow Friday at 6PM Paris time >> (9AM Pacific time) to discuss advancements of geonet/its. >> >> PIN code: 26174894# >> Phone numbers: >> France +33 172283002 >> US +1 646 416 9452 >> (more countries below) >> >> Length: half-hour. >> Topic: way forward for geonet/its: >> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/its/current/msg00893.html >> >> Alex >> >> ----------------------------- >> Pays Type Langue Numéro de téléphone >> Afrique du Sud Gratuit Anglais 800999292 >> Afrique du Sud Local Anglais +27 873534935 >> Allemagne Gratuit Anglais 08005889773 >> Allemagne Local Anglais +49 30221510073 >> Arabie Saoudite Gratuit Anglais 8008110198 >> Argentine 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008001114889 >> Pologne Local Anglais +48 223970413 >> Portugal Gratuit Anglais 800860261 >> Portugal Local +351 308801199 >> Qatar Gratuit Anglais 00800100060 >> République de Corée Gratuit Anglais 00308140645 >> République de Corée Local Anglais +82 234800127 >> République Tchèque Gratuit Anglais 800143107 >> République Tchèque Local Anglais +420 228880046 >> Roumanie Local Anglais +40 318102520 >> Royaume-Uni Gratuit Anglais 08002799127 >> Royaume-Uni Local Anglais +44 1616018919 >> Russie Gratuit Anglais 81080027273011 >> Russie Local Anglais 74992701969 >> Serbia Gratuit Français 0800190388 >> Singapour Gratuit Anglais 8001204319 >> Singapour Local Anglais +65 31582153 >> Slovaquie Gratuit Anglais 0800042093 >> Slovaquie Local Anglais +421 2 5010 2623 >> Slovénie Gratuit Anglais 080080104 >> Slovénie Local +38682880097 >> Suède Gratuit Anglais 0200887626 >> Suède Local Anglais +46 0856610797 >> Suisse Gratuit Anglais 0800000245 >> Suisse Local Anglais +41 445804275 >> Taïwan Gratuit Anglais 00801126774 >> Taïwan Local Anglais +886 2 8723 1012 >> Thaïlande Gratuit Anglais 001800120665261 >> Turquie Gratuit Anglais 00800142074892 >> Turquie Local Anglais +90 2127052905 >> Ukraine Gratuit Anglais 0800501672 >> Uruguay Gratuit Anglais 00040190062 >> Venezuela Gratuit Anglais 08001004016 >> Vietnam Local Anglais +84 444581540 >> _______________________________________________ >> its mailing list >> its@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/its > --- Ce courrier électronique ne contient aucun virus ou logiciel malveillant parce que la protection avast! 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(VPS 140910-0, 10/09/2014), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/its/FKdq_82Ckg249Y3iNav6mmghtnQ Cc: "its@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [geonet/its] organizing teleconference time Western EU, California, Korea X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "GeoNet BoF discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 17:36:46 -0000 On 10/09/2014 19:03, Papadimitriou, Dimitri (Dimitri) wrote: > Hi Alex, > > It may be good that you set a wiki page or equivalent where > interested people could post their input. Hi Dimitri, There is this older page on github... https://github.com/MelindaShore/geonet ? Alex > > Just a suggestion, -diimitri. > > > >> -----Original Message----- From: its [mailto:its-bounces@ietf.org] >> On Behalf Of Alexandru Petrescu Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 >> 6:57 PM To: Jong-Hyouk Lee Cc: its@ietf.org Subject: Re: >> [geonet/its] organizing teleconference time Western EU, California, >> Korea >> >> Jong-Hyouk, >> >> I would like to hold another audioconference next Friday - >> September 13th. >> >> But it looks very difficult to accommodate Korea, California and >> Western Europe times. >> >> I propose that we start discussion by email, have teleconf this >> Friday 6pm Paris time (9am California), and eventually another >> teleconf 9am Paris time (16pm Korea time). >> >> Alex >> >> On 05/09/2014 08:30, Jong-Hyouk Lee wrote: >>> Alex, >>> >>> The doodle to fix the date and time should have been provided. 6 >>> PM (Paris time) is 1 AM in Korea. ;( >>> >>> What I want to discuss in the audio-conference are: >>> >>> 1. Considered architectures for geonet/its 2. Need of a document >>> that describe the requirements and use-cases in terms of >>> security >>> >>> J. -- Jong-Hyouk Lee, living somewhere between /dev/null and >>> /dev/random Protocol Engineering Lab., Sangmyung University >>> >>> #email: jonghyouk@gmail.com >>> #webpage: https://sites.google.com/site/hurryon >>> >>> On 2014. 9. 5., at 오전 12:10, Alexandru Petrescu >>> >> > >> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> We propose a brief audioconference tomorrow Friday at 6PM Paris >>>> time (9AM Pacific time) to discuss advancements of geonet/its. >>>> >>>> PIN code: 26174894# Phone numbers: France +33 172283002 US +1 >>>> 646 416 9452 (more countries below) >>>> >>>> Length: half-hour. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 07:44:53 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_720533D1-2AE7-475F-9070-CBA3A79E4170 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Alex, -- Jong-Hyouk Lee, living somewhere between /dev/null and /dev/random Protocol Engineering Lab., Sangmyung University #email: jonghyouk@gmail.com #webpage: https://sites.google.com/site/hurryon On 2014. 9. 11., at =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 2:09, Alexandru Petrescu = wrote: > On 05/09/2014 08:30, Jong-Hyouk Lee wrote: > [...] >> 1. Considered architectures for geonet/its >=20 > Jong-Hyouk, >=20 > Currently we do not have an architecture document. We do have a = problem statement draft-karagiannis-geonet-problem-statement-00. >=20 > As you have noticed, many of the concepts on geonet relate to ITS and = to some results of familiar projects. >=20 > What do you think a geonet architecture discussion should talk about? >=20 > Do you mean topology with RSUs? >=20 > Do you mean layering of protocols? Yes, I noticed that we do not have yet a document describing the = architecture. I have my own architecture for geonet but suppose others = have others in their minds as well. We should fix the architecture by = defining or referring. It makes smooth discussion later even it would = take time to fix. >=20 >> 2. Need of a document that describe the requirements and use-cases in >> terms of security >=20 > Certainly yes. Security discussion is most welcome. >=20 > Consider the geo-discovery of paths between a source and one or more = destinations. E.g. given a location xyz, find the IP addresses who = previously recorded their presence in that location and identify an IP = path to them. >=20 > Could a security model apply to this geo-discovery? What would be the = requirements and the use-cases in terms of security? At this moment, we cannot define security protocols that protect = specific architecture, communication, protocols, etc. But, as a base = security document, security requirements for geonet can be defined based = on use-cases or scenario documents. I will provide such a document soon. J. >=20 > Alex >=20 >>=20 >> J. >> -- >> Jong-Hyouk Lee, living somewhere between /dev/null and /dev/random >> Protocol Engineering Lab., Sangmyung University >>=20 >> #email: jonghyouk@gmail.com >> #webpage: https://sites.google.com/site/hurryon >>=20 >> On 2014. 9. 5., at =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 12:10, Alexandru Petrescu >> > = wrote: >>=20 >>> Hello, >>>=20 >>> We propose a brief audioconference tomorrow Friday at 6PM Paris time >>> (9AM Pacific time) to discuss advancements of geonet/its. >>>=20 >>> PIN code: 26174894# >>> Phone numbers: >>> France +33 172283002 >>> US +1 646 416 9452 >>> (more countries below) >>>=20 >>> Length: half-hour. >>> Topic: way forward for geonet/its: >>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/its/current/msg00893.html >>>=20 >>> Alex >>>=20 >>> ----------------------------- >>> Pays Type Langue Num=C3=A9ro de t=C3=A9l=C3=A9phone >>> Afrique du Sud Gratuit Anglais 800999292 >>> Afrique du Sud Local Anglais +27 873534935 >>> Allemagne Gratuit Anglais 08005889773 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protection avast! Antivirus est active. > http://www.avast.com >=20 --Apple-Mail=_720533D1-2AE7-475F-9070-CBA3A79E4170 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Alex,

--
Jong-Hyouk Lee, living somewhere between /dev/null = and /dev/random
Protocol Engineering Lab., Sangmyung = University


On 2014. 9. 11., at =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 2:09, Alexandru = Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:

On 05/09/2014 08:30, Jong-Hyouk Lee = wrote:
[...]
1. Considered architectures = for geonet/its

Jong-Hyouk,

Currently we do = not have an architecture document.  We do have a problem statement = draft-karagiannis-geonet-problem-statement-00.

As you have = noticed, many of the concepts on geonet relate to ITS and to some = results of familiar projects.

What do you think a geonet = architecture discussion should talk about?

Do you mean topology = with RSUs?

Do you mean layering of = protocols?

Yes, I noticed that we do = not have yet a document describing the architecture. I have my own = architecture for geonet but suppose others have others in their minds as = well. We should fix the architecture by defining or referring. It makes = smooth discussion later even it would take time to = fix.


2. = Need of a document that describe the requirements and use-cases = in
terms of security

Certainly yes. =  Security discussion is most welcome.

Consider the = geo-discovery of paths between a source and one or more destinations. =  E.g. given a location xyz, find the IP addresses who previously = recorded their presence in that location and identify an IP path to = them.

Could a security model apply to this geo-discovery? =  What would be the requirements and the use-cases in terms of = security?

At this moment, we cannot = define security protocols that protect specific architecture, = communication, protocols, etc. But, as a base security document, = security requirements for geonet can be defined based on use-cases or = scenario documents. I will provide such a document = soon.

J.


Alex


J.
--
Jong-Hyouk Lee, living somewhere between = /dev/null and /dev/random
Protocol Engineering Lab., Sangmyung = University

#email:
jonghyouk@gmail.com <mailto:jonghyouk@gmail.com>
= #webpage: https://sites.google.com/si= te/hurryon

On 2014. 9. 5., at =EC=98=A4=EC=A0=84 12:10, = Alexandru Petrescu
<alexandru.petrescu@gmail.com<= /a> <mailto:alexandru.petrescu@gma= il.com>> wrote:

Hello,

We propose a brief audioconference tomorrow = Friday at 6PM Paris time
(9AM Pacific time) to discuss advancements = of geonet/its.

PIN code: 26174894#
Phone numbers:
France = +33 172283002
US +1 646 416 9452
(more countries = below)

Length: half-hour.
Topic: way forward for = geonet/its:
ht= tp://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/its/current/msg00893.html

Al= ex

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= --Apple-Mail=_720533D1-2AE7-475F-9070-CBA3A79E4170-- From nobody Thu Sep 11 08:29:38 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE941A8934 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:29:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.981 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.981 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, LOTS_OF_MONEY=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nvi6kPbGRcdM for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from oxalide-out.extra.cea.fr (oxalide-out.extra.cea.fr [132.168.224.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCB6D1A8924 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by oxalide.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.3) with ESMTP id s8BFTLWr032242 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:29:21 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id AAC7B204951 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:29:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet2.intra.cea.fr (muguet2.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.7]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03FD204818 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:29:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (is010446-4.intra.cea.fr [10.8.33.116]) by muguet2.intra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.2) with ESMTP id s8BFTEBN002167 for ; Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:29:21 +0200 Message-ID: <5411BFCA.6040203@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:29:14 +0200 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: its@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080902060303060109050506" Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/its/TGhzZDqD7hnesd8zyu8cgMzAM-g Subject: [geonet/its] Teleconference Friday 18h Paris time (9AM Pacific time) - geo-discovery of IP paths, geo-dissemination of IP packets X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "GeoNet BoF discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 15:29:33 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080902060303060109050506 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello, I propose a brief audioconference tomorrow Friday at 6PM Paris time (9AM Pacific time) to discuss advancements of geonet/its: - establishing connection to IP entities in a particular geographical area, involving IP geo-discovery of IP paths. - geo-dissemination of IP packets to a particular area, as a one-side aspect of establishing connections to particular areas. - BoF or no BoF, RG vs WG, chairmanship structure. PIN code: 26174894# Phone numbers: France +33 172283002 US +1 646 416 9452 (more countries below) Alex ----------------------------- Pays Type Langue Numéro de téléphone Afrique du Sud Gratuit Anglais 800999292 Afrique du Sud Local Anglais +27 873534935 Allemagne Gratuit Anglais 08005889773 Allemagne Local Anglais +49 30221510073 Arabie Saoudite Gratuit Anglais 8008110198 Argentine Gratuit Anglais 08003330614 Argentine Local +54 1153527814 Australie Gratuit Anglais 1800043275 Australie Local Anglais +61 386521051 Autriche Gratuit Anglais 0800999650 Autriche Local Anglais +43 19289669 Bahrain Gratuit Anglais 80061157 Belgique Gratuit Anglais 080048370 Belgique Local Anglais +32 24006808 Biélorussie Gratuit Anglais 882000110377 Brésil Gratuit Anglais 08008911842 Brésil Local Anglais +55 1133517045 Bulgarie Gratuit Anglais 008001100134 Bulgarie Local +359 24916161 Canada Gratuit Anglais 18778555653 Chili Gratuit Anglais 12300202481 Chili Local +56 29382197 Chine Local Anglais +86 4006815427 Chypre Gratuit Anglais 80096173 Chypre Local +357 22030503 Colombie Gratuit Anglais 01800-9-156313 Costa Rica Gratuit Anglais 08000150536 Croatie Gratuit Anglais 0800223019 Croatie Local +385 17776504 Danemark Gratuit Anglais 80883260 Danemark Local +45 78775219 Égypte Gratuit 8000000663 Émirats Arabes Unis Gratuit Anglais 800035702761 Équateur Gratuit Anglais 1800010525 Espagne Gratuit Anglais 800099309 Espagne Local Anglais +34 914140787 Estonie Local +372 6682724 États-Unis Gratuit Anglais +1 8667934272 États-Unis Local Anglais +1 646 416 9452 Finlande Gratuit Anglais 0800778987 Finlande Local Anglais +358 942599565 France Gratuit Anglais 0805103002 France Gratuit Français 0805103001 France Local Anglais +33 172283002 France Local Français +33 172283001 Grèce Gratuit Anglais 00800126624 Grèce Local Anglais +30 210 969 6438 Hong Kong Gratuit Anglais 800933235 Hong Kong Local Anglais +852 306 898 28 Hongrie Gratuit Anglais 0680018021 Hongrie Local +36 14088466 Inde Gratuit Anglais 18002004099 Inde Local +91 2233019490 Indonésie Gratuit Anglais 001-803-011-3593 Irlande Gratuit Anglais 1800931811 Irlande Local Anglais +353 12477818 Islande Gratuit Anglais 8008716 Israël Gratuit Anglais 1809303030 Israël Local +972 722713750 Italie Gratuit Anglais 800906616 Italie Local Anglais +39 0236003663 Japon Gratuit Anglais 00531120929 Japon Local Anglais +81 345780654 Lettonie Gratuit Anglais 80002176 Lettonie Local +371 67859492 Lithuanie Gratuit Anglais 880030244 Lithuanie Local +370 52140424 Luxembourg Gratuit Anglais 80027185 Luxembourg Local Anglais +352 27 302 181 Malaisie Gratuit Anglais 1800803321 Malaisie Local Anglais +60 320535039 Mexique Gratuit Anglais 0018665047436 Mexique Local +52 5547460477 Monaco Gratuit Anglais 80093264 Norvège Gratuit Anglais 80013830 Norvège Local Anglais +47 23500553 Nouvelle Zélande Gratuit Anglais 0800446706 Nouvelle Zélande Local Anglais +64 9308 3083 Panama Gratuit Anglais 8002263212 Panama Local +507 8339248 Pays-Bas Gratuit Anglais 08000233588 Pays-Bas Local Anglais +31 207132757 Péru Gratuit Anglais 080053196 Péru Local +51 17070478 Pologne Gratuit Anglais 008001114889 Pologne Local Anglais +48 223970413 Portugal Gratuit Anglais 800860261 Portugal Local +351 308801199 Qatar Gratuit Anglais 00800100060 République de Corée Gratuit Anglais 00308140645 République de Corée Local Anglais +82 234800127 République Tchèque Gratuit Anglais 800143107 République Tchèque Local Anglais +420 228880046 Roumanie Local Anglais +40 318102520 Royaume-Uni Gratuit Anglais 08002799127 Royaume-Uni Local Anglais +44 1616018919 Russie Gratuit Anglais 81080027273011 Russie Local Anglais 74992701969 Serbia Gratuit Français 0800190388 Singapour Gratuit Anglais 8001204319 Singapour Local Anglais +65 31582153 Slovaquie Gratuit Anglais 0800042093 Slovaquie Local Anglais +421 2 5010 2623 Slovénie Gratuit Anglais 080080104 Slovénie Local +38682880097 Suède Gratuit Anglais 0200887626 Suède Local Anglais +46 0856610797 Suisse Gratuit Anglais 0800000245 Suisse Local Anglais +41 445804275 Taïwan Gratuit Anglais 00801126774 Taïwan Local Anglais +886 2 8723 1012 Thaïlande Gratuit Anglais 001800120665261 Turquie Gratuit Anglais 00800142074892 Turquie Local Anglais +90 2127052905 Ukraine Gratuit Anglais 0800501672 Uruguay Gratuit Anglais 00040190062 Venezuela Gratuit Anglais 08001004016 Vietnam Local Anglais +84 444581540 --------------080902060303060109050506 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello,

I propose a brief audioconference tomorrow Friday at 6PM Paris time (9AM Pacific time) to discuss advancements of geonet/its:

- establishing connection to IP entities in a particular geographical area,
  involving IP geo-discovery of  IP paths.
- geo-dissemination of IP packets to a particular area, as a one-side aspect of
  establishing connections to particular areas.
- BoF or no BoF, RG vs WG, chairmanship structure.

PIN code: 26174894#
Phone numbers:
France +33 172283002
US +1 646 416 9452
(more countries below)

Alex

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Pays Type Langue Numéro de téléphone
Afrique du Sud Gratuit Anglais 800999292
Afrique du Sud Local Anglais +27 873534935
Allemagne Gratuit Anglais 08005889773
Allemagne Local Anglais +49 30221510073
Arabie Saoudite Gratuit Anglais 8008110198
Argentine Gratuit Anglais 08003330614
Argentine Local +54 1153527814
Australie Gratuit Anglais 1800043275
Australie Local Anglais +61 386521051
Autriche Gratuit Anglais 0800999650
Autriche Local Anglais +43 19289669
Bahrain Gratuit Anglais 80061157
Belgique Gratuit Anglais 080048370
Belgique Local Anglais +32 24006808
Biélorussie Gratuit Anglais 882000110377
Brésil Gratuit Anglais 08008911842
Brésil Local Anglais +55 1133517045
Bulgarie Gratuit Anglais 008001100134
Bulgarie Local +359 24916161
Canada Gratuit Anglais 18778555653
Chili Gratuit Anglais 12300202481
Chili Local +56 29382197
Chine Local Anglais +86 4006815427
Chypre Gratuit Anglais 80096173
Chypre Local +357 22030503
Colombie Gratuit Anglais 01800-9-156313
Costa Rica Gratuit Anglais 08000150536
Croatie Gratuit Anglais 0800223019
Croatie Local +385 17776504
Danemark Gratuit Anglais 80883260
Danemark Local +45 78775219
Égypte Gratuit 8000000663
Émirats Arabes Unis Gratuit Anglais 800035702761
Équateur Gratuit Anglais 1800010525
Espagne Gratuit Anglais 800099309
Espagne Local Anglais +34 914140787
Estonie Local +372 6682724
États-Unis Gratuit Anglais +1 8667934272
États-Unis Local Anglais +1 646 416 9452
Finlande Gratuit Anglais 0800778987
Finlande Local Anglais +358 942599565
France Gratuit Anglais 0805103002
France Gratuit Français 0805103001
France Local Anglais +33 172283002
France Local Français +33 172283001
Grèce Gratuit Anglais 00800126624
Grèce Local Anglais +30 210 969 6438
Hong Kong Gratuit Anglais 800933235
Hong Kong Local Anglais +852 306 898 28
Hongrie Gratuit Anglais 0680018021
Hongrie Local +36 14088466
Inde Gratuit Anglais 18002004099
Inde Local +91 2233019490
Indonésie Gratuit Anglais 001-803-011-3593
Irlande Gratuit Anglais 1800931811
Irlande Local Anglais +353 12477818
Islande Gratuit Anglais 8008716
Israël Gratuit Anglais 1809303030
Israël Local +972 722713750
Italie Gratuit Anglais 800906616
Italie Local Anglais +39 0236003663
Japon Gratuit Anglais 00531120929
Japon Local Anglais +81 345780654
Lettonie Gratuit Anglais 80002176
Lettonie Local +371 67859492
Lithuanie Gratuit Anglais 880030244
Lithuanie Local +370 52140424
Luxembourg Gratuit Anglais 80027185
Luxembourg Local Anglais +352 27 302 181
Malaisie Gratuit Anglais 1800803321
Malaisie Local Anglais +60 320535039
Mexique Gratuit Anglais 0018665047436
Mexique Local +52 5547460477
Monaco Gratuit Anglais 80093264
Norvège Gratuit Anglais 80013830
Norvège Local Anglais +47 23500553
Nouvelle Zélande Gratuit Anglais 0800446706
Nouvelle Zélande Local Anglais +64 9308 3083
Panama Gratuit Anglais 8002263212
Panama Local +507 8339248
Pays-Bas Gratuit Anglais 08000233588
Pays-Bas Local Anglais +31 207132757
Péru Gratuit Anglais 080053196
Péru Local +51 17070478
Pologne Gratuit Anglais 008001114889
Pologne Local Anglais +48 223970413
Portugal Gratuit Anglais 800860261
Portugal Local +351 308801199
Qatar Gratuit Anglais 00800100060
République de Corée Gratuit Anglais 00308140645
République de Corée Local Anglais +82 234800127
République Tchèque Gratuit Anglais 800143107
République Tchèque Local Anglais +420 228880046
Roumanie Local Anglais +40 318102520
Royaume-Uni Gratuit Anglais 08002799127
Royaume-Uni Local Anglais +44 1616018919
Russie Gratuit Anglais 81080027273011
Russie Local Anglais 74992701969
Serbia Gratuit Français 0800190388
Singapour Gratuit Anglais 8001204319
Singapour Local Anglais +65 31582153
Slovaquie Gratuit Anglais 0800042093
Slovaquie Local Anglais +421 2 5010 2623
Slovénie Gratuit Anglais 080080104
Slovénie Local +38682880097
Suède Gratuit Anglais 0200887626
Suède Local Anglais +46 0856610797
Suisse Gratuit Anglais 0800000245
Suisse Local Anglais +41 445804275
Taïwan Gratuit Anglais 00801126774
Taïwan Local Anglais +886 2 8723 1012
Thaïlande Gratuit Anglais 001800120665261
Turquie Gratuit Anglais 00800142074892
Turquie Local Anglais +90 2127052905
Ukraine Gratuit Anglais 0800501672
Uruguay Gratuit Anglais 00040190062
Venezuela Gratuit Anglais 08001004016
Vietnam Local Anglais +84 444581540

--------------080902060303060109050506-- From nobody Tue Sep 16 22:03:29 2014 Return-Path: X-Original-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: its@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C0B41A212A for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 22:01:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.683 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.683 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HELO_EQ_FR=0.35, MANGLED_TRNFER=2.3, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, SPF_SOFTFAIL=0.665] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t_I2-lkNCr0Y for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 22:01:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr (sainfoin-out.extra.cea.fr [132.167.192.145]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA5C31A068D for ; Tue, 16 Sep 2014 22:01:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (pisaure.intra.cea.fr [132.166.88.21]) by sainfoin.extra.cea.fr (8.14.2/8.14.2/CEAnet-Internet-out-2.3) with ESMTP id s8H51pXG028892 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 07:01:51 +0200 Received: from pisaure.intra.cea.fr (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id DF813201867 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 07:02:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from muguet1.intra.cea.fr (muguet1.intra.cea.fr [132.166.192.6]) by pisaure.intra.cea.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6BE3200C1A for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 07:02:24 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([132.166.86.4]) by muguet1.intra.cea.fr (8.13.8/8.13.8/CEAnet-Intranet-out-1.2) with ESMTP id s8H51ire019455 for ; Wed, 17 Sep 2014 07:01:51 +0200 Message-ID: <541915B8.2020403@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 07:01:44 +0200 From: Alexandru Petrescu User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "its@ietf.org" References: <2134F8430051B64F815C691A62D9831832D1A114@XCH-BLV-504.nw.nos.boeing.com> In-Reply-To: <2134F8430051B64F815C691A62D9831832D1A114@XCH-BLV-504.nw.nos.boeing.com> X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <2134F8430051B64F815C691A62D9831832D1A114@XCH-BLV-504.nw.nos.boeing.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/its/7-ggYC3byOrFoIhbcbApcoL2RQA Subject: [geonet/its] Fwd: IPv6 Destination Option Requested for IPv6GEO X-BeenThere: its@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: "GeoNet BoF discussion list." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2014 05:01:56 -0000 Hello geonetters, In the 6MAN Working Group there is a draft proposal for the use of geo-coordinates in a Destination Options header of IPv6, preceding the payload. Please see the announcement below. The draft cites the geonet effort, and also lists a number of use-cases; some of them are clearly in scope of geonet. In addition, please also note the list of drafts referred to by the discussion in that group which illustrates how the topic of geography and networking has been discussed earlier at IETF: http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ipv6/current/msg21194.html Alex -------- Message transfr -------- Sujet : IPv6 Destination Option Requested for IPv6GEO Date : Mon, 15 Sep 2014 17:01:52 +0000 De : Templin, Fred L Pour : ipv6@ietf.org Hello, We would like to request the assignment of an IPv6 Destination Option for including geolocation information in the headers of IPv6 packets (IPv6GEO). Accordingly, we would like to request publication of our document as a Proposed Standard: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-skeen-6man-ipv6geo/ Our reason is this. In our industry, there are many examples of nodes that willingly submit themselves for active surveillance. If the last thing ever heard from such a node is a single isolated IPv6 packet or fragment, the surveillance authority will want to know where it came from. Comments? Brian Skeen, Ed King, Fred Templin The Boeing Company -------------------------------------------------------------------- IETF IPv6 working group mailing list ipv6@ietf.org Administrative Requests: https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ipv6 --------------------------------------------------------------------