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Sun, 3 May 2020 03:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="===============5639510820829571736==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Repository Activity Summary Bot To: mls@ietf.org Message-Id: <20200503073228.D86AE3280069@mailuser.nyi.internal> Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 03:32:28 -0400 (EDT) Archived-At: Subject: [MLS] Weekly github digest (MLS Working Group summary) X-BeenThere: mls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Messaging Layer Security List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 May 2020 07:38:52 -0000 --===============5639510820829571736== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" Pull requests ------------- * mlswg/mls-architecture (+1/-1/=F0=9F=92=AC1) 1 pull requests submitted: - fix typo (by d1vyank) https://github.com/mlswg/mls-architecture/pull/64=20 1 pull requests received 1 new comments: - #64 fix typo (1 by beurdouche) https://github.com/mlswg/mls-architecture/pull/64=20 1 pull requests merged: - fix typo https://github.com/mlswg/mls-architecture/pull/64=20 * mlswg/mls-protocol (+2/-1/=F0=9F=92=AC3) 2 pull requests submitted: - Make ratcheting optional for Adds (by bifurcation) https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/331=20 - Minor fixes (by raphaelrobert) https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/330=20 1 pull requests received 3 new comments: - #331 Make ratcheting optional for Adds (3 by bifurcation, kkohbrok) https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/331=20 1 pull requests merged: - Minor fixes https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/330=20 Repositories tracked by this digest: ----------------------------------- * https://github.com/mlswg/mls-architecture * https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol * https://github.com/mlswg/mls-federation --===============5639510820829571736== Content-Type: text/html; 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--===============5639510820829571736==-- From nobody Mon May 4 09:23:18 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B403A0C16 for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 09:23:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.099 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.099 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=sn3rd.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YOkSToCAi6w8 for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 09:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qk1-x733.google.com (mail-qk1-x733.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::733]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 366C13A0AE7 for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 09:23:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qk1-x733.google.com with SMTP id b6so23143qkh.11 for ; Mon, 04 May 2020 09:23:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sn3rd.com; s=google; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=VFDy6aiiOj2e0hXorG/M/opUGKUZOREjg5pjjY75kmk=; b=cA0NbeOKSOe1+E2sN6wZqrOFY2sr+62MRuriJxXfHN+DOqVQUr7ogNc17leeMNwQI+ SPhb/2P+IoQndctQdrdN0vmMYo6bZTHCrQEKUyte7bmPmS3VqZJKHGNnxSYg4ups4u2t R8LteI+3pdpmaHQJusDWm0KfnDRzp+wRbpbFc= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=VFDy6aiiOj2e0hXorG/M/opUGKUZOREjg5pjjY75kmk=; b=s4QWGY2EGyIviT+hkJTvqoQ6ZhG1/4TRyttUSEWrOruYRUEThqnAzssuRkcRf9AQ+E 9FLxB6X3J/SAmmPgkpBRWiCxC/p9xTy2tAXI8AZY7kWjmMv1TG5rHZx6fRoi7oz27ray VspprqlwvBj83SlEdY54uje8NUwZOGkuMBBDikKk53YlmU9DPJXUYeK/TPioBBMHibpv 0Sg1KAhG6PjbYiY7lb3iix1r2pumbM22v4fbvYxrXLFPsMwYgk/VAc/RS/sareOj55s3 91wsfzVywfTm/VNubCP1uTHtFZ23WyQGlV/EEI+Ae82CoFEtquWtRCRC0+ipn4OhT1/+ phLg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuaEnU4njVzqiHyPcY8wEVlz3kQxIbrH/OOjCD9pGWN/8wnAS2/D RNBVzucEaqPHHBPuxYdFzy8puSa656E= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJDzOo+6pETVnGw1uIm8PSikA7M6q2Tj10NKr5L3dS4ltQB4NzB4MiViwxoRRjDBvnP2CJyrg== X-Received: by 2002:a37:4794:: with SMTP id u142mr3256188qka.331.1588609392821; Mon, 04 May 2020 09:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sn3rd.lan ([75.102.131.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a16sm4345027qko.92.2020.05.04.09.23.12 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 04 May 2020 09:23:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Sean Turner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 12:23:12 -0400 References: <158803574083.19043.1196953972603957712@ietfa.amsl.com> To: MLS List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [MLS] mls - New Interim Meeting Request X-BeenThere: mls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Messaging Layer Security List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 16:23:16 -0000 > On Apr 27, 2020, at 21:35, Sean Turner wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On Apr 27, 2020, at 21:02, IETF Meeting Session Request Tool = wrote: >>=20 >>=20 >> A new interim meeting series request has just been submitted by Sean = Turner. >>=20 >> This request requires approval by the Area Director of the Security = Area >>=20 >> The meetings can be approved here:=20 >> = https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-mls-12 >> = https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-mls-13 >> = https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-mls-14 >> = https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-mls-15 >>=20 >>=20 >> Meeting: 1 >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> Working Group Name: Messaging Layer Security >> Area Name: Security Area >> Session Requester: Sean Turner >>=20 >> Meeting Type: Virtual Meeting >>=20 >> Session 1: >>=20 >> Date: 2020-05-05 >> Start Time: 12:00 America/New_York >> Duration: 01:00 >> Remote Participation Information: = https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm7822117cbe3d654736b2dbaf0078e353= >> Agenda Note:=20 >=20 > Please note that the first of these interim meeting (the one above) = will be dedicated to key schedule related issues/PRs. >=20 > spt Just another reminder about our interim tomorrow. 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You can help us = with this by filling out the following survey:=20 >=20 > https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5328FFJ >=20 > So far we have 114 responses and we would ideally like 500 or more. >=20 > The survey contains the following pages and will take 15-20 minutes to = complete: >=20 > 1. Welcome > 2. Online IETF 107 and the subsequent virtual interims > 3. Replacing a cancelled in-person meeting > 4. Online meeting format and timezone > 5. Replicating humming > 6. Replicating the hallway environment > 7. Fees > 8. Thanks and anything else >=20 > We run the survey in anonymous mode which means that we only see data = that you explicitly provide. >=20 > Thank you in advance for your help. >=20 > --=20 > Alissa Cooper, IETF Chair > Jay Daley, IETF Executive Director > Colin Perkins, IRTF Chair >=20 > _______________________________________________ > IETF-Announce mailing list > IETF-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce --Apple-Mail=_EEB17C41-9ABE-4C28-8E69-BD9058B1814C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
If you participate in working group meetings= your feedback is very important to help = determine the logistics of upcoming IETF meetings. Please = take the time to fill out the survey below.

spt

Begin forwarded message:

From: = IETF Executive Director <exec-director@ietf.org>
Subject: = Reminder: Survey = on planning for possible online IETF meetings
Date: = May 4, 2020 at 03:03:35 EDT
To: = "IETF Announcement List" <ietf-announce@ietf.org>

This is a reminder that we = need the IETF community to help us plan for the possibility that one or = more upcoming IETF meetings in 2020 and possibly 2021 may not be able to = go ahead in person.  You can help us with this by filling out the = following survey:

https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/5328FFJ

So far we have 114 responses and we would ideally like 500 or = more.

The survey contains the following = pages and will take 15-20 minutes to complete:

1. Welcome
2. Online IETF 107 and the = subsequent virtual interims
3. Replacing a cancelled = in-person meeting
4. Online meeting format and timezone
5. Replicating humming
6. Replicating the = hallway environment
7. Fees
8. Thanks and = anything else

We run the survey in = anonymous mode which means that we only see data that you explicitly = provide.

Thank you in advance for your = help.

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Alissa Cooper, IETF = Chair
Jay Daley, IETF Executive Director
Colin= Perkins, IRTF Chair

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Sun, 10 May 2020 03:32:37 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="===============0519961073583986036==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Repository Activity Summary Bot To: mls@ietf.org Message-Id: <20200510073237.7B6C33280065@mailuser.nyi.internal> Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 03:32:37 -0400 (EDT) Archived-At: Subject: [MLS] Weekly github digest (MLS Working Group summary) X-BeenThere: mls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Messaging Layer Security List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 May 2020 07:41:03 -0000 --===============0519961073583986036== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" Issues ------ * mlswg/mls-protocol (+0/-2/=F0=9F=92=AC1) 1 issues received 1 new comments: - #300 Order in which proposals should be applied is a little bit vague (= 1 by ericcornelissen) https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/issues/300=20 2 issues closed: - Order in which proposals should be applied is a little bit vague https:= //github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/issues/300=20 - Order in which proposals should be applied is a little bit vague https:= //github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/issues/300=20 Pull requests ------------- * mlswg/mls-protocol (+3/-1/=F0=9F=92=AC4) 3 pull requests submitted: - Explicitly state the order in which proposals are applied when creating= a commit (by ericcornelissen) https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/334=20 - add code highlighting for the python code part (by bast) https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/333=20 - adding a table of contents (by bast) https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/332=20 2 pull requests received 4 new comments: - #333 add code highlighting for the python code part (2 by bast, raphael= robert) https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/333=20 - #332 adding a table of contents (2 by bast, raphaelrobert) https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/332=20 1 pull requests merged: - Explicitly state the order in which proposals are applied when creating= a commit https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/334=20 Repositories tracked by this digest: ----------------------------------- * https://github.com/mlswg/mls-architecture * https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol * https://github.com/mlswg/mls-federation --===============0519961073583986036== Content-Type: text/html; 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mlswg/mls-protocol (+0/-2/=F0=9F=92=AC1)

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mlswg/mls-protocol (+3/-1/=F0=9F=92=AC4)

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[61.192.97.84]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j7sm8537756pfi.160.2020.05.11.01.26.12 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 11 May 2020 01:26:13 -0700 (PDT) To: Messaging Layer Security WG From: Joel Alwen Autocrypt: addr=jalwen@wickr.com; keydata= mQENBFyIZvABCAC65JupY1w7gzhhNo41ftIk09n7Lid9p31jDR8Jefv9R5sWL+HZFGDeABAY 1J1JvV6vOaMsfdy9iUFfGS1GhMJ3+mh799SIsB3JSfPq/eq6Jut57D2yPtILmc7ZbuJyBHg0 xuYfKCQQAYikW+v2LJQU1Y+BUDbVldpzxSc8Z3PPSfunWdzhY6qAAhyCv+Y8EzJlQivMwD5B f6737krf8SoBsjsqCHQrRo/r+BSj5Wtd5/K3FkmWLOUAFoYK23+cpoFntGJKZfss27gDPhyS gX9ibXcBGQqBEF4qDPEzEHK8iQmXTxLul5Y7lQ6ADf69xH15WM4GmRBeCvR3Uanxcr2/ABEB AAG0HUpvZWwgQWx3ZW4gPGphbHdlbkB3aWNrci5jb20+iQFUBBMBCAA+FiEEYFNg9IH2SV6e 03O3FR5tDZv8eygFAlyIZvICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ FR5tDZv8eyjSywgApQNIRcL4IKTJ0I4XwcQRhICu1Bht3c2fUnG2YziJXjGf6DZ49uKKtuIu fk8mNS+vKRLoLZ7+u+Pv/Yjmk8jtrr6Saz1vnfsle3GgmXG5JaKOM5cOfeo5JnlNUP3QonR7 LMZwY1qVKg2mzNmwi0jG1zIGgQ5fiAwqe+YTNFli5bc/H1O9LcSmbrLV9OyucARq11DIiAvU fDknZ17OahQls+9mgfAXH5vZjzo296tYvzkOJQ2A6GPxdMHIXGbJM/vjuMe2QJl6C0zaqOtm JvFcx/HpNhmugYI9OsNAd7846HASDp8BKyfY5FYP7bn0/JBuCpg18Aykru6xyFjG3gv0Lw== Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 17:26:12 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.7.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: [MLS] Why give the root a pk/sk? X-BeenThere: mls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Messaging Layer Security List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 08:26:17 -0000 Quick question for the list. Why assign a pk/sk to the root of the ratchet tree? (E.g. on Page 18 in the toy example root node G gets node_priv[1] and node_pub[1].) The commit_secret is then derived HKDF-Expand-Label again on the path_secret for the root. Isn't it true that the only thing we ever encrypt to a node's pk is its parent's path_secret? If so I'm not seeing the point of the pk/sk at the root and the extra call HKDF-Expand to get commit_secret. Am I missing something? - Joël From nobody Mon May 11 13:22:19 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDB23A0CD2 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 13:22:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.896 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.896 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=ipv-sx.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L9QBwqSTdTSz for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 13:22:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-qv1-xf2e.google.com (mail-qv1-xf2e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5D1B33A0C6D for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 13:22:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-qv1-xf2e.google.com with SMTP id a4so2027091qvj.3 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 13:22:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ipv-sx.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=6bCcZRiLCuwVvHWMeSF32+WCUddowmx8dUnG49krOD0=; b=PIQdwypbmz9gxE+gRhX1namgysCAtWR6qyttkMmSKQrnutpqEWicPOCqQDm8YeWFjk hor5G5XdXpsj2zgzQYbMkZf7rYoyhPhSbTplatroTDM7wLaeWpVbyzOLbZO4hQgDJTbF odS1lYz+G2wJ9YjB0xrrXDOWj7JTSlXPz4iOM9FtxdAXsIuylf9W26ESOZsnTw0q2fnI AxTLyaEW2V9p9pVX/wf79QM/mvxIHrHvMSVgyZbzmIsGCi6p8lznTB5WN7bKBuJeHxD1 4RdAEJU6GBLgF3WRrcUJqTbs+l4S53StOrxtzvjqvLFzAZNuh+Frzr2bJpAwn9fBKz7z QEAQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=6bCcZRiLCuwVvHWMeSF32+WCUddowmx8dUnG49krOD0=; b=fg5ZHQLDTQHFL/ht3lJxeHc0SQUyegO591qW/K30TgSTrwVG401xvviSuZmxQfGfCQ NnZOpGLRzpwBFtDWuBAj8S5ZT+ZPspgLcosvXJgOxKr2EcFbh6KhSoc11wPNnoCG6Ife KMErDbuJBVUDmzYsj0Rhg3lu5ywW6PE16rEnvIG6n6LVraGQns6rZdw1uG3ee4PkTlIz fKmUi5h2Ds5Rg8mYQtar/PEHU0al93jddFabiw5hQHD6+6gyzX+gttcBOHG5VWQDyJTg vrEtx0Tu0bYklinVndhtl5F9uMvQMXT0Dt9FWWQDMrhzNVkti3+OmXW0YxMX9pUlt0fz BKZg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PubTd8Bu0LcM1EaEgXOhZpAo9hkaAPHNi5dm8PlDrytUdxdD98+n 9HlkIeuV7e40Zv31pxdaswT6PML+LZox9LDJ7xbG3w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKASXVWByuzDhEkJYT/z+B7I+GP7Ce27QNgOkitp95YL2bb5jXsPm3B9o6JLsZvzm3r45iMfEC0DkQVJGzYfTY= X-Received: by 2002:a0c:e850:: with SMTP id l16mr17832137qvo.43.1589228533990; Mon, 11 May 2020 13:22:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Richard Barnes Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 16:22:00 -0400 Message-ID: To: Joel Alwen Cc: Messaging Layer Security WG Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003c5a9305a5651ac4" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [MLS] Why give the root a pk/sk? X-BeenThere: mls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Messaging Layer Security List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 20:22:17 -0000 --0000000000003c5a9305a5651ac4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think it's necessary. IIRC, the Go library doesn't do this, and it seems to implement the remainder of the spec just fine. The only case where it might be useful is if we implemented a send-to-group-from-outside functionality, in support of Add initiated by the new joiner. But even in that case, it would probably be better to derive a key pair off of the key schedule. --RLB On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:26 AM Joel Alwen wrote: > Quick question for the list. Why assign a pk/sk to the root of the ratche= t > tree? > (E.g. on Page 18 in the toy example root node G gets node_priv[1] and > node_pub[1].) > > The commit_secret is then derived HKDF-Expand-Label again on the > path_secret for > the root. > > Isn't it true that the only thing we ever encrypt to a node's pk is its > parent's > path_secret? If so I'm not seeing the point of the pk/sk at the root and > the > extra call HKDF-Expand to get commit_secret. Am I missing something? > > - Jo=C3=ABl > > _______________________________________________ > MLS mailing list > MLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mls > --0000000000003c5a9305a5651ac4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't think it's necessary.=C2=A0 IIRC, the= Go library doesn't do this, and it seems to implement the remainder of= the spec just fine.

The only case where it might = be useful is if we implemented a send-to-group-from-outside functionality, = in support of Add initiated by the new joiner.=C2=A0 But even in that case,= it would probably be better to derive a key pair off of the key schedule.<= /div>

--RLB

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:26 AM Joe= l Alwen <jalwen@wickr.com> wr= ote:
Quick quest= ion for the list. Why assign a pk/sk to the root of the ratchet tree?
(E.g. on Page 18 in the toy example root node G gets node_priv[1] and node_= pub[1].)

The commit_secret is then derived HKDF-Expand-Label again on the path_secre= t for
the root.

Isn't it true that the only thing we ever encrypt to a node's pk is= its parent's
path_secret? If so I'm not seeing the point of the pk/sk at the root an= d the
extra call HKDF-Expand to get commit_secret. Am I missing something?

- Jo=C3=ABl

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X-BeenThere: mls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Messaging Layer Security List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 21:21:23 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_8810F71D-E948-4444-A574-31B515AFA75E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I agree with that. Send-from-outside should be derived from the key = schedule. Raphael > On 11 May 2020, at 22:22, Richard Barnes wrote: >=20 > I don't think it's necessary. IIRC, the Go library doesn't do this, = and it seems to implement the remainder of the spec just fine. >=20 > The only case where it might be useful is if we implemented a = send-to-group-from-outside functionality, in support of Add initiated by = the new joiner. But even in that case, it would probably be better to = derive a key pair off of the key schedule. >=20 > --RLB >=20 > On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:26 AM Joel Alwen > wrote: > Quick question for the list. Why assign a pk/sk to the root of the = ratchet tree? > (E.g. on Page 18 in the toy example root node G gets node_priv[1] and = node_pub[1].) >=20 > The commit_secret is then derived HKDF-Expand-Label again on the = path_secret for > the root. >=20 > Isn't it true that the only thing we ever encrypt to a node's pk is = its parent's > path_secret? If so I'm not seeing the point of the pk/sk at the root = and the > extra call HKDF-Expand to get commit_secret. Am I missing something? >=20 > - Jo=C3=ABl >=20 > _______________________________________________ > MLS mailing list > MLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mls = > _______________________________________________ > MLS mailing list > MLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mls --Apple-Mail=_8810F71D-E948-4444-A574-31B515AFA75E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 I = agree with that. Send-from-outside should be derived from the key = schedule.

Raphael

On 11 May 2020, at 22:22, Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> wrote:

I don't think it's necessary.  IIRC, the = Go library doesn't do this, and it seems to implement the remainder of = the spec just fine.

The only case where it might be useful is if we implemented a = send-to-group-from-outside functionality, in support of Add initiated by = the new joiner.  But even in that case, it would probably be better = to derive a key pair off of the key schedule.

--RLB

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:26 AM Joel Alwen <jalwen@wickr.com> = wrote:
Quick question for the list. Why = assign a pk/sk to the root of the ratchet tree?
(E.g. on Page 18 in the toy example root node G gets node_priv[1] and = node_pub[1].)

The commit_secret is then derived HKDF-Expand-Label again on the = path_secret for
the root.

Isn't it true that the only thing we ever encrypt to a node's pk is its = parent's
path_secret? If so I'm not seeing the point of the pk/sk at the root and = the
extra call HKDF-Expand to get commit_secret. Am I missing something?

- Jo=C3=ABl

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MLS mailing list
MLS@ietf.org
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_______________________________________________
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= --Apple-Mail=_8810F71D-E948-4444-A574-31B515AFA75E-- From nobody Mon May 11 20:42:23 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAF03A09B1 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 20:42:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.895 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.895 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nfbJP1EaviVF for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 20:42:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr (mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr [192.134.164.83]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 22E493A09B0 for ; Mon, 11 May 2020 20:42:19 -0700 (PDT) X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.73,382,1583190000"; d="scan'208,217";a="449218916" Received: from 82-64-165-115.subs.proxad.net (HELO [192.168.1.48]) ([82.64.165.115]) by mail2-relais-roc.national.inria.fr with ESMTP/TLS/AES256-GCM-SHA384; 12 May 2020 05:42:17 +0200 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-28275D56-EF6B-4559-9AC9-016D256F486A Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Benjamin Beurdouche Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 05:42:17 +0200 Message-Id: References: Cc: Richard Barnes , Messaging Layer Security WG , Joel Alwen In-Reply-To: To: Raphael Robert X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (17E262) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [MLS] Why give the root a pk/sk? X-BeenThere: mls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Messaging Layer Security List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 03:42:22 -0000 --Apple-Mail-28275D56-EF6B-4559-9AC9-016D256F486A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable @Joel This is because this is part of TreeKEM which has no key schedule and i= s not specific to MLS. B. > On May 11, 2020, at 11:21 PM, Raphael Robert wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFI agree with that. Send-from-outside should be derived from the k= ey schedule. >=20 > Raphael >=20 >> On 11 May 2020, at 22:22, Richard Barnes wrote: >>=20 >> I don't think it's necessary. IIRC, the Go library doesn't do this, and i= t seems to implement the remainder of the spec just fine. >>=20 >> The only case where it might be useful is if we implemented a send-to-gro= up-from-outside functionality, in support of Add initiated by the new joiner= . But even in that case, it would probably be better to derive a key pair o= ff of the key schedule. >>=20 >> --RLB >>=20 >> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:26 AM Joel Alwen wrote: >>> Quick question for the list. Why assign a pk/sk to the root of the ratch= et tree? >>> (E.g. on Page 18 in the toy example root node G gets node_priv[1] and no= de_pub[1].) >>>=20 >>> The commit_secret is then derived HKDF-Expand-Label again on the path_se= cret for >>> the root. >>>=20 >>> Isn't it true that the only thing we ever encrypt to a node's pk is its p= arent's >>> path_secret? If so I'm not seeing the point of the pk/sk at the root and= the >>> extra call HKDF-Expand to get commit_secret. Am I missing something? >>>=20 >>> - Jo=C3=ABl >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MLS mailing list >>> MLS@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mls >> _______________________________________________ >> MLS mailing list >> MLS@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mls >=20 > _______________________________________________ > MLS mailing list > MLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mls --Apple-Mail-28275D56-EF6B-4559-9AC9-016D256F486A Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
@Joel This is because this= is part of TreeKEM which has no key schedule and is not specific to MLS.
B.

O= n May 11, 2020, at 11:21 PM, Raphael Robert <raphael=3D40wire.com@dmarc.i= etf.org> wrote:

=EF=BB=BFI agree with that. Send-from-outside should be derived from t= he key schedule.

Raphael=

On 11 May 2020, at 22:22, Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> wrote:

I don't think it's necessary.  IIRC, the Go library doesn't do this, a= nd it seems to implement the remainder of the spec just fine.

The only case where it might be u= seful is if we implemented a send-to-group-from-outside functionality, in su= pport of Add initiated by the new joiner.  But even in that case, it wo= uld probably be better to derive a key pair off of the key schedule.

--RLB

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:26 AM Joel Alwen <jalwen@wickr.com> wrote:
<= /div>
Quick question for the= list. Why assign a pk/sk to the root of the ratchet tree?
(E.g. on Page 18 in the toy example root node G gets node_priv[1] and node_p= ub[1].)

The commit_secret is then derived HKDF-Expand-Label again on the path_secret= for
the root.

Isn't it true that the only thing we ever encrypt to a node's pk is its pare= nt's
path_secret? If so I'm not seeing the point of the pk/sk at the root and the=
extra call HKDF-Expand to get commit_secret. Am I missing something?

- Jo=C3=ABl

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[61.192.97.84]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o6sm10561095pfp.172.2020.05.11.21.18.14 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 11 May 2020 21:18:15 -0700 (PDT) To: Benjamin Beurdouche , Raphael Robert Cc: Richard Barnes , Messaging Layer Security WG References: From: Joel Alwen Autocrypt: addr=jalwen@wickr.com; keydata= mQENBFyIZvABCAC65JupY1w7gzhhNo41ftIk09n7Lid9p31jDR8Jefv9R5sWL+HZFGDeABAY 1J1JvV6vOaMsfdy9iUFfGS1GhMJ3+mh799SIsB3JSfPq/eq6Jut57D2yPtILmc7ZbuJyBHg0 xuYfKCQQAYikW+v2LJQU1Y+BUDbVldpzxSc8Z3PPSfunWdzhY6qAAhyCv+Y8EzJlQivMwD5B f6737krf8SoBsjsqCHQrRo/r+BSj5Wtd5/K3FkmWLOUAFoYK23+cpoFntGJKZfss27gDPhyS gX9ibXcBGQqBEF4qDPEzEHK8iQmXTxLul5Y7lQ6ADf69xH15WM4GmRBeCvR3Uanxcr2/ABEB AAG0HUpvZWwgQWx3ZW4gPGphbHdlbkB3aWNrci5jb20+iQFUBBMBCAA+FiEEYFNg9IH2SV6e 03O3FR5tDZv8eygFAlyIZvICGwMFCQHhM4AFCwkIBwIGFQoJCAsCBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQ FR5tDZv8eyjSywgApQNIRcL4IKTJ0I4XwcQRhICu1Bht3c2fUnG2YziJXjGf6DZ49uKKtuIu fk8mNS+vKRLoLZ7+u+Pv/Yjmk8jtrr6Saz1vnfsle3GgmXG5JaKOM5cOfeo5JnlNUP3QonR7 LMZwY1qVKg2mzNmwi0jG1zIGgQ5fiAwqe+YTNFli5bc/H1O9LcSmbrLV9OyucARq11DIiAvU fDknZ17OahQls+9mgfAXH5vZjzo296tYvzkOJQ2A6GPxdMHIXGbJM/vjuMe2QJl6C0zaqOtm JvFcx/HpNhmugYI9OsNAd7846HASDp8BKyfY5FYP7bn0/JBuCpg18Aykru6xyFjG3gv0Lw== Message-ID: <31cfedfc-2c9e-bb6b-7b6b-22c081cc9404@wickr.com> Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 13:18:13 +0900 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [MLS] Why give the root a pk/sk? X-BeenThere: mls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Messaging Layer Security List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 04:18:19 -0000 Thanks for the answers everyone! > Send-from-outside should be derived from the key schedule. Yup, totally. Way better (global) forward secrecy that way. So to summarize, what I'm reading out of these answers is that MLS doesnt really have a need for the root's PK/SK and extra Derive/HKDF calls. - Joël On 12/05/2020 12:42, Benjamin Beurdouche wrote: > @Joel This is because this is part of TreeKEM which has no key schedule and is > not specific to MLS. > B. > >> On May 11, 2020, at 11:21 PM, Raphael Robert >> wrote: >> >> I agree with that. Send-from-outside should be derived from the key schedule. >> >> Raphael >> >>> On 11 May 2020, at 22:22, Richard Barnes > wrote: >>> >>> I don't think it's necessary.  IIRC, the Go library doesn't do this, and it >>> seems to implement the remainder of the spec just fine. >>> >>> The only case where it might be useful is if we implemented a >>> send-to-group-from-outside functionality, in support of Add initiated by the >>> new joiner.  But even in that case, it would probably be better to derive a >>> key pair off of the key schedule. >>> >>> --RLB >>> >>> On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 4:26 AM Joel Alwen >> > wrote: >>> >>> Quick question for the list. Why assign a pk/sk to the root of the >>> ratchet tree? >>> (E.g. on Page 18 in the toy example root node G gets node_priv[1] and >>> node_pub[1].) >>> >>> The commit_secret is then derived HKDF-Expand-Label again on the >>> path_secret for >>> the root. >>> >>> Isn't it true that the only thing we ever encrypt to a node's pk is its >>> parent's >>> path_secret? If so I'm not seeing the point of the pk/sk at the root and the >>> extra call HKDF-Expand to get commit_secret. Am I missing something? >>> >>> - Joël >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MLS mailing list >>> MLS@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mls >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MLS mailing list >>> MLS@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mls >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MLS mailing list >> MLS@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mls From nobody Thu May 14 11:11:03 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mls@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mls@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 640943A0AE4 for ; Thu, 14 May 2020 11:11:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.271 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.271 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.173, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cloudflare.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OFXF4gZ2AZ4t for ; Thu, 14 May 2020 11:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vk1-xa2c.google.com (mail-vk1-xa2c.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::a2c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B324B3A0ADD for ; Thu, 14 May 2020 11:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vk1-xa2c.google.com with SMTP id 21so585400vkq.6 for ; Thu, 14 May 2020 11:10:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cloudflare.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=QmdOLTU55EmmZPEF3GmKp1J0SohUfvVS9sVjSr+OI80=; b=nXVBLHLywJscQswNoKG9k71O59a7j04nyc0DbH9p6wu7rUnoQKgZdomwYXjimK5ImW 5dBxQsx6qj/AZRVQ8KS9fC8MPBfM98u6EEqmMZTza1Ga8Kb+GQRbIBKSxSeeAShRmzp0 7qUf6DPBiJ+ZLGNx7geXTN6Oi+xK/vPqQsIsw= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=QmdOLTU55EmmZPEF3GmKp1J0SohUfvVS9sVjSr+OI80=; b=Cw0GG9z6HH5vKmrWprSGOnnw4vxmkqQVXZPTTJm04/i5mIcaHPHislClQ6Qky20tkw oSXDFThQa8ev3DW/UT36Uu8FLXXRput+QJ9mffw6z8jwdMVYD1mM6+eGymYac/omWazJ aXsz40rXeAVHIs/GevZP1Dcu48u6J9lKy/CZF2l7jMESgvcG2du1LNKqdDEorUQLxllH PV2e5ANq+Xxp4l8dBbz+Z3eQn7qwbUPKaS57Zo8+QolGPc44dolRrCwOmN+AriLQ+PvF mtlRezkxbD31MQD8j/Vcuc+X22vzbOiYz1gKvv5koRO8LGXX4U0qrZfxSaCUA0HMSHGk 2hnw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5339t0fRt/1HpJJuxCQbf1RIqyXTDfuu4EQN9q8wxw/z4khO0kIM xomxdOKyVw87XMuqqLhf1Fai606n4uEQXOnu79NxYQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJymSxKdvLky9XHZ7vrFCfXVSkPjRVxyTcgSP8utuBz9CX5IdCmg9EVCLQh/02qg0mimD2YHIoE1O9GB07739Fg= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:9889:: with SMTP id a131mr4723301vke.19.1589479858478; Thu, 14 May 2020 11:10:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5032AD79-3767-4556-9719-20E36313349F@sn3rd.com> In-Reply-To: <5032AD79-3767-4556-9719-20E36313349F@sn3rd.com> From: Nick Sullivan Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 11:10:42 -0700 Message-ID: To: Sean Turner Cc: MLS List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000057c68d05a59f9e95" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [MLS] Key Schedule Issues/PRs X-BeenThere: mls@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Messaging Layer Security List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 18:11:02 -0000 --00000000000057c68d05a59f9e95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hey Team, Please submit your agenda items for Tuesday's interim meeting. The only current agenda item is going over key schedule issues/PRs. If you have an issue to discuss or a PR to review, make sure it's tagged appropriately or we'll skip over them. We'd like to close the proposed changes by the June 2nd interim meeting. Nick On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 10:19 AM Sean Turner wrote: > hi! > > I=E2=80=99d like to make sure we collect the key schedule related issues/= PRs. If > you have submitted one and it is key schedule related please add the newl= y > created "key schedule=E2=80=9D label to your issue/PR. > > Cheers, > spt > _______________________________________________ > MLS mailing list > MLS@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mls > --00000000000057c68d05a59f9e95 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hey Team,

Please submit your agenda ite= ms for Tuesday's interim meeting.

The only cur= rent agenda item is going over key schedule issues/PRs. If you have an issu= e to discuss or a PR to review, make sure it's tagged=C2=A0appropriatel= y or we'll skip over them. We'd like to close the proposed changes = by the June 2nd interim=C2=A0meeting.

Nick

On= Fri, May 8, 2020 at 10:19 AM Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote:
hi!

I=E2=80=99d like to make sure we collect the key schedule related issues/PR= s. If you have submitted one and it is key schedule related please add the = newly created "key schedule=E2=80=9D label to your issue/PR.

Cheers,
spt
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This decision is based on the IETF Executive Director=E2=80=99s = recommendation, which was made after conducting an assessment of local = conditions using the criteria set out in the assessment framework [1] = developed with community input. >=20 > The recommendation and full assessment are available at: = https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/IETF_108_Madrid_go_no-go_assessment.p= df >=20 > The online IETF 108 meeting will take place 27-31 July from 11:00 to = 16:00 UTC each day. The end time of 16:00 UTC is approximate; some days = may be shorter depending on scheduling. These time blocks were chosen = based on the survey feedback [2] we received. >=20 > Further details about the online meeting will be shared as they become = available. >=20 > Sincerely, > Alissa Cooper, IETF Chair > Colin Perkins, IRTF Chair > Jason Livingood, IETF LLC Board Chair >=20 > [1] = https://www.ietf.org/blog/assessment-criteria-decision-personvirtual-ietf-= 108/? > [2] = https://www.ietf.org/media/documents/survey-planning-possible-online-meeti= ngs-responses.pdf > _______________________________________________ > IETF-Announce mailing list > IETF-Announce@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce --Apple-Mail=_30A4B663-30B8-4718-A598-130EA5DE7E6B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 FYI = in case you are not subscribed to the ietf announce list.

spt
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Date: May 14, 2020 at 17:07:47 EDT
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The= Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG), the IETF LLC Board of = Directors, and the Internet Research Task Force (IRTF) Chair have = decided to replace the in-person IETF 108 Madrid meeting with an online = meeting. This decision is based on the IETF Executive Director=E2=80=99s = recommendation, which was made after conducting an assessment of local = conditions using the criteria set out in the assessment framework [1] = developed with community input.

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Sunday May 17, 2020

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mlswg/mls-protocol (+2/-0/=F0=9F=92=AC0)

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minor fix (by chrisbrzuska) https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/337=20 3 pull requests received 3 new comments: - #338 Rely More on HPKE (1 by rozbb) https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/338=20 - #331 Make ratcheting optional for Adds (1 by bifurcation) https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/331 [functionality] [perform= ance] [security]=20 - #327 Fix bugs in tree math and cleanup docs. (1 by Bren2010) https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/327 [editorial] [enhancement= ]=20 4 pull requests merged: - Fix in lifetime extension https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/341=20 - Make ratcheting optional for Adds https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/331 [functionality] [perform= ance] [security]=20 - Upper bound on group size in early phase too low https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/339=20 - Fix HPKE setup function name https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pull/335=20 Repositories tracked by this digest: ----------------------------------- * https://github.com/mlswg/mls-architecture * https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol * https://github.com/mlswg/mls-federation --===============2017837854977166929== Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Weekly github digest (MLS Working Group summary)

Sunday May 24, 2020

Issues

mlswg/mls-protocol (+1/-0/=F0=9F=92=AC0)

1 issues created:

Pull requests

mlswg/mls-protocol (+4/-4/=F0=9F=92=AC3)

4 pull requests submitted:

3 pull requests received 3 new comments:

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MLSWG,

There are several ope= n pull requests on the protocol document:
https://github.com/mlswg/mls-protocol/pulls=

We discussed three PRs during the last meeting:
PR #336 PSK Injection
PR #331 Making ratcheting optional for Adds=
PR #337 n-PRF (multi-PSK injection)

=
The discussion of #331 was not completely captured in the draft meetin= g notes, so if someone has something to add, please comment on this PR:=C2= =A0https://github.= com/mlswg/wg-materials/pull/9

If you'd lik= e to advocate for or against=C2=A0any of these changes, either reply on thi= s thread or start a new thread on the mailing list. We'll discuss the c= hanges at the next interim meeting (next Tuesday).

Nick & Sean
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