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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, thank you everyone who attended. Attached is a link to the minutes, wh= ich contains links to the presentations and a copy of the chat history duri= ng the meeting. Look for an announcement of a new mailing list soon. https://codimd.ietf.org/s/B1Jhb70Rd I put wish, quic and mops on the bcc line so any replies here will go to av= tcore. -Alan From: Alan Frindell Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 8:41 AM To: avt@ietf.org , wish@ietf.org , QUIC WG , mops@ietf.org Cc: Kirill Pugin Subject: Reminder: Video Ingest over QUIC Side Meeting Friday 7/30 18:00 UTC Video Ingest over QUIC Side Meeting Friday 7/30 18:00 UTC / 11 Pacific Link to draft agenda and video conference details: https://github.com/afrin= d/draft-rush/blob/main/meeting-materials/agenda.2021.07.03.md -Alan --_000_MW3PR15MB377219DB42BB4E9E4B9C80F4A7EF9MW3PR15MB3772namp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi, thank you every= one who attended.  Attached is a link to the minutes, which contains l= inks to the presentations and a copy of the chat history during the meeting= .  Look for an announcement of a new mailing list soon.

 

https://codimd.ietf.org/s/B1Jhb70Rd

 

I put wish, quic an= d mops on the bcc line so any replies here will go to avtcore.

 

-Alan

 

From: Alan Frindell <afrind@fb.com><= br> Date: Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 8:41 AM
To: avt@ietf.org <avt@ietf.org>, wish@ietf.org <wish@ietf.o= rg>, QUIC WG <quic@ietf.org>, mops@ietf.org <mops@ietf.org><= br> Cc: Kirill Pugin <ikir@fb.com>
Subject: Reminder: Video Ingest over QUIC Side Meeting Friday 7/30 1= 8:00 UTC

Video Ingest over Q= UIC Side Meeting Friday 7/30 18:00 UTC / 11 Pacific

 

Link to draft agend= a and video conference details: https://github.com/afrind/draft-rush/blob/main/meeting-materials/agenda.202= 1.07.03.md

 

-Alan

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Sun, 15 Aug 2021 03:34:23 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="===============3474180255735596744==" MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Repository Activity Summary Bot To: mops@ietf.org Message-Id: <20210815074059.C8E4D3A0AC1@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 00:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Archived-At: Subject: [Mops] Weekly github digest (MOPS Activity Summary) X-BeenThere: mops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Media OPerationS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2021 07:41:07 -0000 --===============3474180255735596744== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format="flowed" Events without label "editorial" Issues ------ * ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons (+0/-0/=F0=9F=92=AC6) 5 issues received 6 new comments: - #88 Mention "Comparative Latency Under Load Performance of Broadband CP= E" in MAPRG at IETF 111? 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boundary="_000_AM0PR01MB5201E3B1EA51F666C6068F66A8C49AM0PR01MB5201eurp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: bbc.co.uk X-EXCLAIMER-MD-CONFIG: c91d45b2-6e10-4209-9543-d9970fac71b7 Archived-At: Subject: [Mops] W3C/SMPTE Workshop on Professional Media Production on the Web X-BeenThere: mops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Media OPerationS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 15:08:16 -0000 --_000_AM0PR01MB5201E3B1EA51F666C6068F66A8C49AM0PR01MB5201eurp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, W3C and SMPTE have just announced an upcoming workshop on Professional Medi= a Production on the Web. W3C/SMPTE Workshop on Professional Media Production on the Web 9-18 November 2021, Virtual Event https://www.w3.org/2021/03/media-production-workshop/ Professional media assets, including audio-visual masters for television an= d motion pictures, are increasingly being stored in the cloud. The workshop= will connect the web platform and the professional media production commun= ities and explore evolutions of the Web platform to address professional me= dia production requirements. This joint W3C/SMPTE event will be organized as a combination of pre-record= ed talks followed by online discussions on GitHub, and culminating in a ser= ies of live sessions in November 2021. Please see the workshop web page for details of proposed topics: https://ww= w.w3.org/2021/03/media-production-workshop/ I'd like to invite you to consider submitting a presentation. Details are h= ere: https://www.w3.org/2021/03/media-production-workshop/speakers.html If you have any questions, feel free to contact me directly or you can reac= h the Programme Committee at group-media-production-pc@w3.org. Many thanks, Chris --_000_AM0PR01MB5201E3B1EA51F666C6068F66A8C49AM0PR01MB5201eurp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

W3C and SMPTE have just announced an upcoming worksh= op on Professional Media Production on the Web.

 

   W3C/SMPTE Workshop on Professional Medi= a Production on the Web

   9-18 November 2021, Virtual Event<= /o:p>

   https://www.w3.org/2021/03/media-production-workshop/

 

Professional media assets, including audio-visual ma= sters for television and motion pictures, are increasingly being stored in = the cloud. The workshop will connect the web platform and the professional = media production communities and explore evolutions of the Web platform to address professional media production re= quirements.

 

This joint W3C/SMPTE event will be organized as a co= mbination of pre-recorded talks followed by online discussions on GitHub, a= nd culminating in a series of live sessions in November 2021.

 

Please see the workshop web page for details of prop= osed topics: https://w= ww.w3.org/2021/03/media-production-workshop/

 

I'd like to invite you to consider submitting a pres= entation. Details are here: https://www.w3.org/2021/03/media-production-workshop/speakers.html<= o:p>

 

If you have any questions, feel free to contact me d= irectly or you can reach the Programme Committee at group-media-production-= pc@w3.org.

 

Many thanks,

 

Chris

 

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So I look forward to your replies (PS: I was not sure if I should have posted it on WG mailing list or github). 1. General - I wonder if the document could also include considerations in terms of reference architecture and deployment. The reason is that the document covers transport, QoS (bandwidth, latency), encryption, media format but not much on network layer or connectivity aspects such as selection of CDN servers. Then, having insights into deployment will also help determine challenges for new applications or infrastructures (such as those from 5G world). 2. In Section 1. Introduction 133 milliseconds whereas live streaming can tolerate latencies of several ^^^^^ Shouldn't this be on-demand streaming? I mean there is real-time streaming of a sports event and then there is on-demand streaming. 3. Section 3.2 ...the latency can be decoupled from the duration of the media segments. Just a clarification - How latency can be decoupled? Do you mean the arrival times of segments is independent from the playing time? 4. Section 4.5.2 In this section, it is bit unintuitive how CDNs do not have per session visibility. if the content should be fetched from server, I am guessing the application logic will keep at least the ephemeral state on the server (either at transport or application level). Maybe the reason is since HTTP is stateless, therefore, application does not know about the state. Am I right? Can we clarify this statement? 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Begen" In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 16:56:03 +0300 Cc: "mops@ietf.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <36CF00CB-F0EA-4779-8BE5-8018A7199736@networked.media> References: To: Kiran Makhijani X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Mops] Comments on draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons-06.txt X-BeenThere: mops@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Media OPerationS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2021 13:56:16 -0000 Hi Kiran > On Aug 26, 2021, at 10:22 PM, Kiran Makhijani = wrote: >=20 > Hi Authors, > The document has done a great job in putting together lot of valuable > information. I personally feel that some clarifications may be added = to > see the whole picture but not sure if they are in the scope. So I look > forward to your replies (PS: I was not sure if I should have posted it > on WG mailing list or github). List is fine. > 1. General - I wonder if the document could also include = considerations > in terms of reference architecture and deployment. The reason is that > the document covers transport, QoS (bandwidth, latency), encryption, > media format but not much on network layer or connectivity aspects = such > as selection of CDN servers. Then, having insights into deployment = will > also help determine challenges for new applications or infrastructures > (such as those from 5G world).=20 We might provide a brief text on this (anybody is welcome to propose = one). Or better yet, we might provide a few references on this subject = for=20 further reading. See the current list of further reading we are = compiling for this draft here: = https://github.com/ietf-wg-mops/draft-ietf-mops-streaming-opcons/issues/14= (Feel free to add other references to the google doc) >=20 > 2. In Section 1. Introduction > 133 milliseconds whereas live streaming can tolerate latencies of = several > ^^^^^ > Shouldn't this be on-demand streaming? I mean there is real-time > streaming of a sports event and then there is on-demand streaming.=20 Please check section 3. > 3. Section 3.2 > ...the latency can be decoupled from the duration of the media > segments.=20 > Just a clarification - How latency can be decoupled? Do you mean the > arrival times of segments is independent from the playing time? It means the latency does not depend on the segment duration anymore. = You can use larger segments but still achieve low latency using this = approach. > 4. Section 4.5.2 > In this section, it is bit unintuitive how CDNs do not have per = session > visibility. if the content should be fetched from server, I am = guessing > the application logic will keep at least the ephemeral state on the > server (either at transport or application level). > Maybe the reason is since HTTP is stateless, therefore, application = does > not know about the state. Am I right? HTTP is stateless, yes. Even if a server indeed keeps more logs, those = logs will not necessarily tell the server (or the CDN) exactly what they = were corresponding unless you post-process/analyze them with some extra = knowledge about what each requested object was referring to.In other = words, the server/CDN does not have the knowledge of correlating the = requests and aggregating them into sessions. With each requested object, = there is something more needed to make that correlation and that is what = CMCD does. -acbegen > Can we clarify this statement? >=20 > Thanks > Kiran >=20 > --=20 > Mops mailing list > Mops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mops