From nobody Tue Jul 7 23:01:19 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mud@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mud@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B06B3A095D for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:01:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.096 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.096 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=checkpoint.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 20TJBD1rHBln for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:01:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.checkpoint.com (michael.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.68]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5B3A13A095A for ; Tue, 7 Jul 2020 23:01:14 -0700 (PDT) x-m-msg: CPCHECK DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.11.0 smtp.checkpoint.com 068604ID029027 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=checkpoint.com; s=default; t=1594188008; bh=Up4v++tyhqzaqzcAGNpAfMcShxAB5tn7nyqf9LhY75Q=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:From; b=MNobuxVZebrV4+vNSquWJISA9tdy6SYF614sjNh9QjsdbM7tBzqXFwm4sf5+tW//a Ng62+9nOrwQ82DpUQ+bxaIrkeArIHG+MqsEmgYUWOitNMd3kShnrlRfb1GZ6NAygUO RsXGWdnF+Ed408zXh8HwO4d92GCw2MCRGz2cA3WM= Received: from ilp-tlv-ex03.ad.checkpoint.com (ilp-tlv-ex03.ad.checkpoint.com [194.29.34.164]) by smtp.checkpoint.com (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id 068604ID029027 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 09:00:08 +0300 Received: from ilp-tlv-ex03.ad.checkpoint.com (194.29.34.164) by ilp-tlv-ex03.ad.checkpoint.com (194.29.34.164) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.1847.3; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 08:59:41 +0300 Received: from ilp-tlv-ex03.ad.checkpoint.com ([fe80::18ec:5622:b38b:8132]) by ilp-tlv-ex03.ad.checkpoint.com ([fe80::18ec:5622:b38b:8132%4]) with mapi id 15.01.1847.003; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 08:59:41 +0300 From: Daniel Cohen-Sason To: "mud@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Updated Manufactures supporting MUD Thread-Index: AdZU7LEp0WwqkLuITvy/nygklzPL0Q== Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 05:59:41 +0000 Message-ID: <0cd51d5feda24d6897c78e8fa1589f42@checkpoint.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [192.168.142.163] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_0cd51d5feda24d6897c78e8fa1589f42checkpointcom_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [Mud] Updated Manufactures supporting MUD X-BeenThere: mud@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of Manufacturer Ussage Descriptions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 06:01:18 -0000 --_000_0cd51d5feda24d6897c78e8fa1589f42checkpointcom_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I am Daniel, leading the R&D for Check Point's IoT protection (https://www.= checkpoint.com/solutions/iot-security/) I am considering to include some level of support in MUD with our products. I understand the technology, and as security vendor I understand what we ne= ed to do. I'd like to validate that this is something that the manufactures adopted a= lready, and the trend. Can you share with me more information? Regards, Daniel +972-53-5658548 --_000_0cd51d5feda24d6897c78e8fa1589f42checkpointcom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi

I am Daniel, leading the R&D for Check PointR= 17;s IoT protection (https://www.checkpoint.com/solutions/iot-security/)=

I am considering to include some level of support in= MUD with our products.

I understand the technology, and as security vendor = I understand what we need to do.

I’d like to validate that this is something th= at the manufactures adopted already, and the trend.

Can you share with me more information?

 

Regards,

Daniel

+972-53-5658548

 

--_000_0cd51d5feda24d6897c78e8fa1589f42checkpointcom_-- From nobody Wed Jul 8 00:32:25 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mud@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mud@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18AD3A0C03 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 00:32:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.6 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.6 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_MED=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vuc3J09twaYI for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 00:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aer-iport-3.cisco.com (aer-iport-3.cisco.com [173.38.203.53]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A04FF3A0C02 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 00:32:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=8059; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1594193541; x=1595403141; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc: to:references; bh=OcLuWLtj0KCOywAqtK4HB3hjVQToYE+S+pIaDr3y9rg=; b=EDxd0CdzPS8RYuQnlK/mgcWrilHht6vwlMM0WMIrbvwZiJ09/COrvrg4 Ji2flf5fol6tufDpbNW3G2hcY6wG26rLe//1su0LDZQuYoAJw7gRqRMz0 qFLvsFqyz23jDjcqtVIfFO0A6SNJCe0ddbJsUnpQMDfkEaqu1iI0UR9g0 I=; X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0BjAAAudgVf/xbLJq1gGgEBAQEBAQEBAQEDAQEBARIBA?= =?us-ascii?q?QEBAgIBAQEBggqBI4F2VAEgEiyEMokBiBeTb4gVCwEBAQwBARgBCgwEAQGER?= =?us-ascii?q?wKCEiU4EwIDAQEBAwIDAQEBAQUBAQECAQYEbYVbDIVuAQEBAQIBAQEhSwsFC?= =?us-ascii?q?wsYJwMCAicfEQYTG4MLAYJcIA+oRXaBMoVRhHsGgTiNBIIAgTgcgk0+glwBA?= =?us-ascii?q?YR1M4ItBI9FEolJm2uCZoMGlkQDHZEejX+saoNRAgQGBQIVgWoiKYEtMxoIG?= =?us-ascii?q?xU7KgGCPj4SGQ2SD4UUhUQ/AzANKgIGAQcBAQMJjhEtghcBAQ?= X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos; i="5.75,327,1589241600"; d="scan'208,217"; a="25300884" Received: from aer-iport-nat.cisco.com (HELO aer-core-2.cisco.com) ([173.38.203.22]) by aer-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA; 08 Jul 2020 07:32:17 +0000 Received: from [10.61.221.181] ([10.61.221.181]) by aer-core-2.cisco.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 0687WGEG009423 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 8 Jul 2020 07:32:17 GMT From: Eliot Lear Message-Id: <92E46541-DDDD-48C1-A77D-02916579B314@cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C4081948-38C6-4B0D-99CB-2B5B930AE7CE" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 13.4 \(3608.80.23.2.2\)) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 09:32:16 +0200 In-Reply-To: <0cd51d5feda24d6897c78e8fa1589f42@checkpoint.com> Cc: "mud@ietf.org" To: Daniel Cohen-Sason References: <0cd51d5feda24d6897c78e8fa1589f42@checkpoint.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 10.61.221.181, [10.61.221.181] X-Outbound-Node: aer-core-2.cisco.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Mud] Updated Manufactures supporting MUD X-BeenThere: mud@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of Manufacturer Ussage Descriptions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 07:32:24 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_C4081948-38C6-4B0D-99CB-2B5B930AE7CE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Daniel, There are a number of manufacturers that are in flight. The code is = supported by Microchip, and the capability is being introduced in Wifi = Alliance=E2=80=99s DPP as well. Molex supports. If you don=E2=80=99t = mind I will point your name to several companies under separate cover, = and maybe one or two others who can add. > On 8 Jul 2020, at 07:59, Daniel Cohen-Sason = wrote: >=20 > Hi > I am Daniel, leading the R&D for Check Point=E2=80=99s IoT protection = (https://www.checkpoint.com/solutions/iot-security/ = ) > I am considering to include some level of support in MUD with our = products. > I understand the technology, and as security vendor I understand what = we need to do. > I=E2=80=99d like to validate that this is something that the = manufactures adopted already, and the trend. > Can you share with me more information? > =20 > Regards, > Daniel > +972-53-5658548 > =20 > --=20 > Mud mailing list > Mud@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mud = --Apple-Mail=_C4081948-38C6-4B0D-99CB-2B5B930AE7CE Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi = Daniel,

There are a = number of manufacturers that are in flight.  The code is supported = by Microchip, and the capability is being introduced in Wifi = Alliance=E2=80=99s DPP as well.  Molex supports.  If you = don=E2=80=99t mind I will point your name to several companies under = separate cover, and maybe one or two others who can add.

On 8 Jul 2020, at 07:59, Daniel Cohen-Sason <danielcoh@checkpoint.com> wrote:

Hi
I am = Daniel, leading the R&D for Check Point=E2=80=99s IoT protection (https://www.checkpoint.com/solutions/iot-security/)
I am = considering to include some level of support in MUD with our = products.
I= understand the technology, and as security vendor I understand what we = need to do.
I=E2=80=99d like to validate that this is something that the = manufactures adopted already, and the trend.
Can you = share with me more information?
 
Regards,
Daniel
+972-53-5658548
 
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References: <0cd51d5feda24d6897c78e8fa1589f42@checkpoint.com> <92E46541-DDDD-48C1-A77D-02916579B314@cisco.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3608.80.23.2.2) X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 10.61.221.181, [10.61.221.181] X-Outbound-Node: aer-core-2.cisco.com Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Mud] Updated Manufactures supporting MUD X-BeenThere: mud@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of Manufacturer Ussage Descriptions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2020 08:44:26 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_243F9318-EDFA-47E2-8BE8-AE456F8863A4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On 8 Jul 2020, at 10:35, Daniel Cohen-Sason = wrote: >=20 > OK. Thanks. > =20 > So this is the list, as of what you stated: > 1. https://www.microchip.com/ > a. All their products? Or some? Molex and others use their processors. I can ask which models if you = like. > 2. Wifi Alliance=E2=80=99s DPP > a. Is it a product? Or kind of OED? Can you point me to the = relevant product? It=E2=80=99s a standard for onboarding IoT devices.. > 3. https://www.molex.com/molex/product-search/products.action = > a. Which of their product? I see a lot > =20 I can ping them, but it=E2=80=99s in their controllers. Eliot > =20 > Can we get their MUD files? > =20 > Daniel. > =20 > =20 > From: Eliot Lear >=20 > Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2020 10:32 > To: Daniel Cohen-Sason > > Cc: mud@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Mud] Updated Manufactures supporting MUD > =20 > Hi Daniel, > =20 > There are a number of manufacturers that are in flight. The code is = supported by Microchip, and the capability is being introduced in Wifi = Alliance=E2=80=99s DPP as well. Molex supports. If you don=E2=80=99t = mind I will point your name to several companies under separate cover, = and maybe one or two others who can add. >=20 >=20 > On 8 Jul 2020, at 07:59, Daniel Cohen-Sason > wrote: > =20 > Hi > I am Daniel, leading the R&D for Check Point=E2=80=99s IoT protection = (https://www.checkpoint.com/solutions/iot-security/ = ) > I am considering to include some level of support in MUD with our = products. > I understand the technology, and as security vendor I understand what = we need to do. > I=E2=80=99d like to validate that this is something that the = manufactures adopted already, and the trend. > Can you share with me more information? > =20 > Regards, > Daniel > +972-53-5658548 > =20 > --=20 > Mud mailing list > Mud@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mud = > =20 >=20 > Email secured by Check Point > Report Phishing = --Apple-Mail=_243F9318-EDFA-47E2-8BE8-AE456F8863A4 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8

On 8 Jul 2020, at 10:35, Daniel Cohen-Sason <danielcoh@checkpoint.com> wrote:

OK. Thanks.
 
So this is the list, as = of what you stated:
a.       All their products? Or = some?

Molex and = others use their processors.  I can ask which models if you = like.

2.       Wifi Alliance=E2=80=99s DPP
a.       Is it a product? Or kind of OED? Can you = point me to the relevant product?

It=E2=80=99s a standard for onboarding IoT = devices..

3.       https://www.molex.com/molex/product-search/products.action<= span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: = rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">
a.       Which of their product? I see a lot
 

I can ping them, but it=E2=80=99s in their = controllers.

Eliot

 
Can we get their MUD = files?
 
Daniel.
 
 
From: Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2020 = 10:32
To: Daniel Cohen-Sason <danielcoh@checkpoint.com>
Cc: mud@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [Mud] Updated = Manufactures supporting MUD
 
Hi Daniel,
 
There are a number of manufacturers that = are in flight.  The code is supported by Microchip, and the = capability is being introduced in Wifi Alliance=E2=80=99s DPP as well. =  Molex supports.  If you don=E2=80=99t mind I will point your = name to several companies under separate cover, and maybe one or two = others who can add.


On 8 Jul 2020, at 07:59, Daniel = Cohen-Sason <danielcoh@checkpoint.com> wrote:
 
Hi
I am Daniel, leading = the R&D for Check Point=E2=80=99s IoT protection (https://www.checkpoint.com/solutions/iot-security/)<= o:p class=3D"">
I am considering to = include some level of support in MUD with our products.
I understand the = technology, and as security vendor I understand what we need to do.
I=E2=80=99d like to = validate that this is something that the manufactures adopted already, = and the trend.
Can you share with me more information?
 
Regards,
Daniel
+972-53-5658548
 
 

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= --Apple-Mail=_243F9318-EDFA-47E2-8BE8-AE456F8863A4-- From nobody Wed Jul 8 17:28:04 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: mud@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: mud@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A60D3A0B21 for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:27:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H0G3LrgHpUdg for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A87BB3A0AEF for ; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 17:27:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D47389A0; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 20:24:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id rupASbj9rL46; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 20:24:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [209.87.249.21]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646113899F; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 20:24:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0BA4B5; Wed, 8 Jul 2020 20:27:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: Daniel Cohen-Sason cc: "mud\@ietf.org" In-Reply-To: <0cd51d5feda24d6897c78e8fa1589f42@checkpoint.com> References: <0cd51d5feda24d6897c78e8fa1589f42@checkpoint.com> X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6+git; nmh 1.7+dev; GNU Emacs 26.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Mud] Updated Manufactures supporting MUD X-BeenThere: mud@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of Manufacturer Ussage Descriptions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 00:28:03 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Daniel Cohen-Sason wrote: > I am Daniel, leading the R&D for Check Point's IoT protection > (https://www.checkpoint.com/solutions/iot-security/) Hi, welcome to the list, we are very happy to have you here! I'm pleased that you are considering 8520 support. We are still in that hard spot where there are few products supporting MUD, and few devices supplying MUD. So there is going to be a bit of a leap of faith. > I am considering to include some level of support in MUD with our products. > I understand the technology, and as security vendor I understand what we need to do. > I'd like to validate that this is something that the manufactures > adopted already, and the trend. I'd like to draw your attention to the concept of putting MUD URLs into QR codes. I described this in https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-richardson-opsawg-securehomegateway-mud/ {The WiFi Alliance's put RFC8520 into their spec, but not into their QR code! https://www.wi-fi.org/download.php?file=/sites/default/files/private/DRAFT%20Device_Provisioning_Protocol_Specification_v_1.2_0.pdf } Rather than thinking that RFC8520 support means getting LLDP, DHCP (or BRSKI) support into your product and struggling with how to get down to that low-level of bits on the wire immediately, think of RFC8520 as a way to package and distribute ACLs, signed by a manufacturer. {of course, I'd like checkpoint to do LLDP, DHCP and BRSKI, but it doesn't have to be critical path for a minimum viable product} So a MUD URL can arrive by any method at all, and translating it into ACLs can literally be done in your (G)UI only. If you also allow your UI to *export* a MUD file from a set of ACLs, then this can create a way to crowd source much needed IoT rules. -- Michael Richardson , Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCgAdFiEEbsyLEzg/qUTA43uogItw+93Q3WUFAl8GZIQACgkQgItw+93Q 3WXQ4wf9G91hi1uqLWWf6tVNiyhzYX2BhDX2YoetKPI7bpf7ka44bp8CdrjRjEUu D+B/0Dv4Z491ksAkjVmSYqIQ5sTWXaE2GYVQBZXcKN7twnbCYo9Wm9YwrdSBwJRy vDstimonUivcKMKHAz/Y7rZxHgVWrrBWZoH9h9qOS5iNjIuFwCXPWhc30pFVqRNU wQMs6wksjQDLMr7RY39UU6BAxxx3VEqIRjhGvBS7iV6UfD0moNRDwTH8z0gso0Gm TDmVzV8Tb0sIzWefDS31vhr061y6Cfh0oTij/Id7t0FPpULvjuJwZMJjygrGCcPm IgM7cU6oTR8t5CXKL7JTx5yuY1e93Q== =PXr8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--