From evnikita2@gmail.com Thu Mar 24 23:06:01 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: newtrk@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: newtrk@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86C73A6821 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:06:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.481 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.481 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.117, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ij8ta5aKL8Rg for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:06:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-fx0-f44.google.com (mail-fx0-f44.google.com [209.85.161.44]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D113A6954 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fxm15 with SMTP id 15so898463fxm.31 for ; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:07:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:content-type; bh=w/8LmE6rPC2xSElnfEW4I/VgSTZwc/1pmaapEC83Zr0=; b=JicB0yuSmmqIlK3WIVe21agvdpOUWW5l56G4m4U9W3oI+kwXjzXNbgaM7phnrxukiW hK67TlOW/YM4nb1/1t0mdMQyjdBJnTn7Ko1FsFJfgAgrJXV/MwftSoHbAnpfjhGecC+H 6QMYPgCWj+Um+ANS2Qin0C4+X0yeE8zfB4Vt0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :content-type; b=odJ79i347jzkhQRd//EkdfzQJuAdcqeTKKn1Rh7x+2aOtreFefZK0tqAwavo+Cqy95 lL57L3oBMVoDrj5ur4S0qUJt6DJtJxx1qeu8vDIlHEgBxv9tZ21GL/2AWxZFdTxmXrsu wD58f+/MTPU+G8TyXSgommY49Vz9IfEzAatV8= Received: by 10.223.15.147 with SMTP id k19mr413002faa.4.1301033254282; Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:07:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([195.191.104.134]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id c21sm242186fac.22.2011.03.24.23.07.32 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 24 Mar 2011 23:07:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4D8C3148.80501@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 08:08:08 +0200 From: Mykyta Yevstifeyev User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; ru; rv:1.9.2.15) Gecko/20110303 Thunderbird/3.1.9 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Harald Alvestrand , Eliot Lear Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000807030706050901080803" Cc: newtrk@ietf.org Subject: [NEWTRK] A question and proposal for draft-ietf-newtrk-cruft X-BeenThere: newtrk@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: new standards track List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2011 06:06:02 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000807030706050901080803 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Harald and Eliot, {Also copying this to NEWTRK mailing list} I've recently looked at you Internet-Draft draft-ietf-newtrk-cruft (http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-newtrk-cruft-00.txt). At the time when you worked on it I, unfortunately, wasn't at IETF and could not witness what was happening then. As far as I can see, this draft was issued nearly 1.5 year before WG conclusion. I also see this document was discussed at IETF 61th meeting, but I can't find any mention of it at further meetings.Therefore, I'd like to ask what happened that this draft did not move forward and expired? Could you please give me a short insight in that events? Moreover, I'd like to propose conducting the process experiment per RFC 3933 on the procedures defined in this draft; personally for me they seem interesting. What do you think about such idea? Mykyta Yevstifeyev --------------000807030706050901080803 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Harald and Eliot,

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I've recently looked at you Internet-Draft draft-ietf-newtrk-cruft (http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-newtrk-cruft-00.txt).  At the time when you worked on it I, unfortunately, wasn't at IETF and could not witness what was happening then. 
As far as I can see, this draft was issued nearly 1.5 year before WG conclusion.   I also see this document was discussed at IETF 61th meeting, but I can't find any mention of it at further meetings.  Therefore, I'd like to ask what happened that this draft did not move forward and expired?  Could you please give me a short insight in that events?

Moreover, I'd like to propose conducting the process experiment per RFC 3933 on the procedures defined in this draft; personally for me they seem interesting.  What do you think about such idea?

Mykyta Yevstifeyev
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