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Dear RIFT,<= /o:p>

It's that = time again!

 

The preliminary agenda for IETF 102 has been published; you can fin= d it at https:/= /datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/agenda.html

 =

RIFT will be meeting:<= o:p>

-13:3= 0-15:30 =C2=A0 Thursday Afternoon session I in Viger

 

If you'd like a slot to present a d= raft, please send a request to Jeffrey and I by July 2nd. Please note the da= tes below, in particular, the cut-off date for draft submission is UTC 23:59= , July 2.

We kindly request to send your slides for presentations by Friday, July= 13.

=  

As always =E2=80=93 we would appreciate your help in taking notes and jabber, pl= ease do volunteer!

Looking forward to seeing you in Montreal!

 =

Cheers,

Jeff and Jeffrey

 <= o:p>

 = ;

 

--B_3612413866_1189868538-- From nobody Thu Jun 21 09:02:28 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rift@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rift@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7D19130F06; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 09:02:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.998 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id i8Hh-2AZNHGF; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 09:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-wm0-x243.google.com (mail-wm0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0C226130F02; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 09:02:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-wm0-x243.google.com with SMTP id p11-v6so7112104wmc.4; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 09:02:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=YWSyfWKvAXUJnoSHT8qrC1Dp4NpMOXDpBbGUUFmUsKc=; b=l25JQr+2PVoDU5+iX8Hhv9Ooxl6Sjz6Z8Xl/UcTyIgFjPfjM2es3VJP403oTlsI5Hz HE5zLb4DtXdHHEp3INoO/yaOgXckuxSBSNnJfuAaUfY1PYwn+nh9/ZwwVon3uCskInHY +kUA9y5FA3JIds31vFqBx7xvaa1jTKBISXobKVgknRUgnhH4+xmKeG9xdCqSa0GwLEg3 I7Q6ZhIMVaZw9B0vgPwa7/IlWAzwz9DDqTSuDjuKXjoPWUqGKkxxxrLyFsUjvhOalhPD DsbTsE/IVtDgIBMeh0+04I4Qwpp/3CSlbov45b7ZOE3HrcjiC78LoaCB0vPcfpLYkx5B Il6w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YWSyfWKvAXUJnoSHT8qrC1Dp4NpMOXDpBbGUUFmUsKc=; b=LAQxJrDHFQCPNXZNJZrnB3aYpakp8OfdvA9fPT2Zx8Lt9e9XO6qy60b9zN4Gh56bva oJK0Parb9WHLx3npGaUTcNPwjfle25wT0uBhcaNMsDtK/t0qv7c8dvbm2Qr5dt8DGsKZ Whlp4E7vw5vp6xJxuJ3MHdH9SXPX11YOJ7bexEBzNOghFLBI/3d3rqPuSdJ6pI5LPq7I JdOqLO9cWJvzA+jG5iqMP3oT0KCyy8QpNvDRZo1iltp/4ofY/OpuNEeZd6Y7FOh34TM4 7NPFaPNFYdi2KIDIfx1jCGAyYY4cAALU+RwUJS9iB1neXseIfECUkiJ9otHnZiNMdJr/ lUjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1Es8lbjnS8Xz8TEt0NLXLJnjIRX2y3jEcz79ZpV/bWpTAJ+hFc Rw5bkCSXGqQR0UQibhBUkiIvOxHJ2lxQiWB+hSU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKLa9OkU9GPLLbRzNDZ7sUf0VVLVmglUCkQ58gG+R1T3ER4ADFa1/7d8f3QnwrZZaCF7CQ9B/2l7VofW7BBo824= X-Received: by 2002:a50:b52a:: with SMTP id y39-v6mr22570035edd.195.1529596942623; Thu, 21 Jun 2018 09:02:22 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <631811D8-71B2-46F8-9DC9-2C22CD41BAAF@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <631811D8-71B2-46F8-9DC9-2C22CD41BAAF@gmail.com> From: Tony Przygienda Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 09:01:45 -0700 Message-ID: To: Jeff Tantsura Cc: rift@ietf.org, rift-chairs@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006a276b056f290a97" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Rift] RIFT presentation slot requests for IETF102 X-BeenThere: rift@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of Routing in Fat Trees List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2018 16:02:27 -0000 --0000000000006a276b056f290a97 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Count me in for 20minutes, updates on -01 and -02 draft (will be published tommorow or so for the hackathon) . FSMs LIEs/ZTP . optimal, load-balanced flooding reduction (complete change from -00) . fast mobillity support . hackathon outcome thanks -- tony On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 8:18 AM Jeff Tantsura wrote: > Dear RIFT, > > It's that time again! > > > > The preliminary agenda for IETF 102 has been published; you can find it a= t > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/agenda.html > > > > RIFT will be meeting: > > -13:30-15:30 Thursday Afternoon session I in Viger > > > > If you'd like a slot to present a draft, please send a request to Jeffrey > and I by July 2nd. Please note the dates below, in particular, the cut-of= f > date for draft submission is UTC 23:59, July 2. > > We kindly request to send your slides for presentations by Friday, July 1= 3. > > > > As always =E2=80=93 we would appreciate your help in taking notes and jab= ber, > please do volunteer! > > Looking forward to seeing you in Montreal! > > > > Cheers, > > Jeff and Jeffrey > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > RIFT mailing list > RIFT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rift > --0000000000006a276b056f290a97 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Count me in for 20minutes, u= pdates on -01 and -02 draft (will be published tommorow or so for the hacka= thon)

. FSMs LIEs/ZTP
. optimal, load-balanced flood= ing reduction (complete change from -00)
. fast mobillity support<= br>
. hackathon outcome

thanks

-- tony
=

On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 = at 8:18 AM Jeff Tantsura <jef= ftant.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear RIFT,

It's that time again!

=C2=A0

The preliminary agenda for IETF 102 has bee= n published; you can find it at=C2=A0https://d= atatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/agenda.html=

=C2=A0

RIFT will be meeting:<= /u>

-13:30-15= :30 =C2=A0 Thursday Afternoon session I in Viger

=C2=A0

If you'd like a slot = to present a draft, please send a request to Jeffrey and I by July 2nd. Ple= ase note the dates below, in particular, the cut-off date for draft submiss= ion is UTC 23:59, July 2.

We kindly request to send your slides for presentations= by Friday, July 13.

=C2=A0

As always =E2=80=93 we would appreciate your help in taki= ng notes and jabber, please do volunteer!

Looking forward to seeing you in Montr= eal!

= =C2=A0

Cheers,

Jeff and Jeffrey

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

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--0000000000006a276b056f290a97-- From nobody Fri Jun 22 08:25:08 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rift@ietf.org Delivered-To: rift@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D891130E90; Fri, 22 Jun 2018 08:25:01 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Cc: rift@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.81.3 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <152968110128.3545.14197723718162506447@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 08:25:01 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Rift] I-D Action: draft-ietf-rift-rift-02.txt X-BeenThere: rift@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 List-Id: Discussion of Routing in Fat Trees List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2018 15:25:02 -0000 A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Routing In Fat Trees WG of the IETF. Title : RIFT: Routing in Fat Trees Authors : Tony Przygienda Alankar Sharma Pascal Thubert Alia Atlas John Drake Filename : draft-ietf-rift-rift-02.txt Pages : 88 Date : 2018-06-22 Abstract: This document outlines a specialized, dynamic routing protocol for Clos and fat-tree network topologies. The protocol (1) deals with automatic construction of fat-tree topologies based on detection of links, (2) minimizes the amount of routing state held at each level, (3) automatically prunes the topology distribution exchanges to a sufficient subset of links, (4) supports automatic disaggregation of prefixes on link and node failures to prevent black-holing and suboptimal routing, (5) allows traffic steering and re-routing policies, (6) allows non-ECMP forwarding, (7) automatically re- balances traffic towards the spines based on bandwidth available and ultimately (8) provides mechanisms to synchronize a limited key-value data-store that can be used after protocol convergence to e.g. bootstrap higher levels of functionality on nodes. The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-rift-rift/ There are also htmlized versions available at: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-rift-rift-02 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-rift-rift-02 A diff from the previous version is available at: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-rift-rift-02 Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ From nobody Sun Jun 24 11:39:35 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rift@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rift@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D9B130E33 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 11:39:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BiQpOQaZnvgQ for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 11:39:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-pl0-x233.google.com (mail-pl0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400e:c01::233]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 232B4130E3D for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 11:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-pl0-x233.google.com with SMTP id g20-v6so5756433plq.1 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 11:39:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:mime-version:subject:message-id:date:to; bh=nn0guC14WLLtOS4SkT6ZA2UhDXfyEFvrdl10YAQLtCE=; b=lMQkPkD5uy1oiAYp2lNfnYuj1G7r76LKL7iXrft5GJitwJkjbrOIssnB33U9bOiVEs saWJuXWLjdtPZblV9NuDEK3UG2v2PygiSpLS8jvTq3lV3gF8vmgu6btmAkNxb0CR9rqV /BB+183BwqH3ERcMilWBxXfBpfQAwMr6NMj4wxz0dLyweyOnd0RhxpLdiyQFAhkyWr+t F5vmfez/Xojp5uAkKaQboPNZ4XfXL/F4oCwFJ6gckmbFPw/RMsPs0kJiEFVUnWRA3xW2 uiE3NMFxVApZShFuKqA7giShDzAodumDJWEOIxZkhHmVo3j5m1q3kMo6eATHo/kZMFgR uYCg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:mime-version:subject:message-id:date:to; bh=nn0guC14WLLtOS4SkT6ZA2UhDXfyEFvrdl10YAQLtCE=; b=dZEYGuAh+eClOh7xY8Q6MEibw++K1e3F6+bpizlgQXqEZVk2Tf3wetoN1gblmyfg4x zQWcOWbYIxBxoTcFQqdMqGoiEwXqzpEbubhqY3BG5D8+Qhzb0R8dNIXTQFbkU9KL9GWr ziCf8hDV03lQtAjMNdFj+0/2x0Da6pRmJ4Clg98c5mDrHh0zRN5+Zs8dkD/RwfiLrgUJ QUd94tAvQfRcf5zvGTHOCHpU1WZjn/+guQtG9kourLH1bGvDJzWDN9UtvbcSDcRKoGGI xrp6r2cDdXyWK2BPgPljgMpdMnlsaj5UaSKupz9B4XCH8uiQMPdDJuAUy0oi049Ot47A tTIg== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E0HdLLJg+I7hhHBjWD1sJr8D+8njOzMm27BI28j2XClIvrk0u6N d/moHZucuz69b6LYXRoTLmvu5MnR X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKIKadLgdbv+2Y++BLoHIehFblkLhHNJZmUzmPtoYGPwXyNKBcj6vUeWxju0r1kKbJLUltX+0A== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:1566:: with SMTP id b35-v6mr9612201plh.107.1529865570098; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 11:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.10.123.47] (50-197-184-177-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net. [50.197.184.177]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r3-v6sm16315576pgp.83.2018.06.24.11.39.28 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 24 Jun 2018 11:39:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Bruno Rijsman Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_780A51B6-8A81-4F05-B14C-7955B1EE85A6" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.2 \(3445.5.20\)) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 11:39:27 -0700 To: rift@ietf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.5.20) Archived-At: Subject: [Rift] FSM diagram in draft-ietf-rift-rift-02.txt X-BeenThere: rift@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of Routing in Fat Trees List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 18:39:34 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_780A51B6-8A81-4F05-B14C-7955B1EE85A6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 It seems to me that using an embedded .dot file in an I-D for the FSM = diagram is too much of a hurdle for most casual readers. Also, the = diagram that graphviz produces is neither particular pretty nor easy to = understand. Here is a Github gist with an ASCII diagram if you would like to include = one in the draft: = https://gist.github.com/brunorijsman/b5105ed239835e00564fae13d61c484f = =E2=80=94 Bruno= --Apple-Mail=_780A51B6-8A81-4F05-B14C-7955B1EE85A6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 It = seems to me that using an embedded .dot file in an I-D for the FSM = diagram is too much of a hurdle for most casual readers. Also, the = diagram that graphviz produces is neither particular pretty nor easy to = understand.

Here is = a Github gist with an ASCII diagram if you would like to include one in = the draft: https://gist.github.com/brunorijsman/b5105ed239835e00564fae13d6= 1c484f

=E2=80= =94 Bruno
= --Apple-Mail=_780A51B6-8A81-4F05-B14C-7955B1EE85A6-- From nobody Mon Jun 25 09:37:36 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: rift@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: rift@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462F5130EB5 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 09:37:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.999 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.999 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ibIdkalXoOfU for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 09:37:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ed1-x529.google.com (mail-ed1-x529.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::529]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D286C129C6B for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 09:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ed1-x529.google.com with SMTP id b12-v6so5743176edt.8 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 09:37:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=E3LtElgq9x3qKYmsnUEBQIghuZWsdxvm5+LVZZBrpjg=; b=nHwmAgTT7mP3Sl8Uzf9yylkTVeAId8wJp0ROmFISDL5VYhpSK3D+BJYTnK6ioZji0a pjOLOt3wlwo1dNq1gsfZGKdZk9+TcrsPQepI1U286N4Q4gS4kn/gW2nlwVWQTgPjhm0n 32iyAsOSm4a9uqNWKrn1z5CXb6LzaJVQTiOf0a5/NWYtHp13uHLEjHGKrjbUlmbNvyRZ bPVOkDZfJXOVF3q0k2B8fYOP0AtKt/4x8KCiVuzQQxLCZK4wO+VGBgndBng16Rh1MEyY ocFwl6c2XGde6xrD9Wa90FcDe09QjCqPoW0W2rweyc0qxqohc6NrZhvTCqhTimcAmwEt w5CQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=E3LtElgq9x3qKYmsnUEBQIghuZWsdxvm5+LVZZBrpjg=; b=kPeBEfhyuHgAT846AvHrz+XEJ03X08UvCXD6dDaafJjxFAck732MK+/bg5t/6Vd56V RjdmRzM2O7MHs96ZdNOHrSq5NNIjRg6N/BoXEYys0A/7gYES5lCw1jWRVpdQy9y1a8ts 0Xyxnbv9Y+q3j3isOcbvQ9U5UNTn3J1s8H0wufuYm7nwj3kpaJYLB9JEy52L7W78qKG4 qKA/2pLc+pBICtnwJFp6mL44nYUZ8D/mvoBpwBeqHGSSe0o77GEAxKa3H9r0MkQaHzJ8 PjrROFzjB94LbsDYsYbntvmPGgA0AOlZYJ+Wlwf3r1nes80MlQk1Q3IfsgM6wNbD7NNI 8Hig== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2MkaiBXa2oO/uT9tR4wW2jwimjhmGpXVzbP9HDGnp5mva6+YfX RMEOfbloXXsdP3puewWZjv9XWrLuFvFtjYvLrgc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJPKZon+XpcM9IakxhtYEkriHlYG5r0Yps6/vYMEp9VX305VBw7q340dHYCipkQhuMBuei7q1aHt21HjtfXloo= X-Received: by 2002:a50:ae87:: with SMTP id e7-v6mr11821029edd.16.1529944650432; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 09:37:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Tony Przygienda Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 09:36:54 -0700 Message-ID: To: brunorijsman@gmail.com Cc: rift@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006a4638056f79ffa4" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Rift] FSM diagram in draft-ietf-rift-rift-02.txt X-BeenThere: rift@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion of Routing in Fat Trees List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 16:37:35 -0000 --0000000000006a4638056f79ffa4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bruno, sure & thanks, lemme paste it in & give you some accolades ;-) I just got tired of redrawing the stuff e'time I changed something ... Will be in -03 draft after IETF ... --- tony On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 11:39 AM Bruno Rijsman wrote: > It seems to me that using an embedded .dot file in an I-D for the FSM > diagram is too much of a hurdle for most casual readers. Also, the diagra= m > that graphviz produces is neither particular pretty nor easy to understan= d. > > Here is a Github gist with an ASCII diagram if you would like to include > one in the draft: > https://gist.github.com/brunorijsman/b5105ed239835e00564fae13d61c484f > > =E2=80=94 Bruno > _______________________________________________ > RIFT mailing list > RIFT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rift > --0000000000006a4638056f79ffa4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Bruno, sure & thanks, lemme paste it in & giv= e you some accolades ;-) I just got tired of redrawing the stuff e'time= I changed something ... Will be in -03 draft after IETF ...

= --- tony=C2=A0

On= Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 11:39 AM Bruno Rijsman <brunorijsman@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems to me that using an embedded .dot file in an I-D for the = FSM diagram is too much of a hurdle for most casual readers. Also, the diag= ram that graphviz produces is neither particular pretty nor easy to underst= and.

Here is a Github gist with an ASCII diagram if you = would like to include one in the draft:=C2=A0https= ://gist.github.com/brunorijsman/b5105ed239835e00564fae13d61c484f
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