From nobody Wed Oct 2 13:34:23 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: t2trg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: t2trg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 452AF12002F for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2019 13:34:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.197 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.197 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aNC0kfqKn0E7 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2019 13:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 91B2E120018 for ; Wed, 2 Oct 2019 13:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.34.217] (h-164-71.A137.corp.bahnhof.se [37.123.164.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46k7CX3SpJzyrm; Wed, 2 Oct 2019 22:34:16 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_057BF451-7FA1-4D87-ADF3-1683DBCF99D5" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann X-Priority: 3 X-Mail-Calendar-Part: Yes Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 22:33:54 +0200 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 591741227.285746-e58a19c63a4e39aeebcf52e9791cc7a3 Message-Id: <868CA6FC-6E61-477C-A33B-45292E020119@tzi.org> References: <478721389.350131570031381543.JavaMail.nobody@rva2rmd102.webex.com> To: t2trg@irtf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: [T2TRG] Webex meeting invitation: T2TRG/WISHI work meeting 2019-10-04 X-BeenThere: t2trg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IRTF Thing-to-Thing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2019 20:34:21 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_057BF451-7FA1-4D87-ADF3-1683DBCF99D5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 On the occasion of the 4th face-to-face meeting of the One Data Model = Liaison Group here in Stockholm, we will spend a day discussing the = implications of that work on the further activities of T2TRG/WISHI. A = more detailed agenda will follow. The physical meeting is in room Tussilagon at Ericsson headquarters. Webex information is below; we won=E2=80=99t have a professional room = setup but some laptop or iPad, but we are a small f2f group. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > Begin forwarded message: >=20 > Subject: (Forward to others) Webex meeting invitation: T2TRG/WISHI = work meeting > You can forward this invitation to others. > =20 > Meeting number (access code): 641 246 717 > Meeting password: constrained > =20 > Friday, 4. October 2019 > 7:00 | (UTC+00:00) Monrovia, Reykjavik | 9 hrs > =20 > Join = > =20 > Join by phone > Tap to call in from a mobile device (attendees only) > 1-650-479-3208 = Call-in toll number (US/Canada) > =20 > =20 > Need help? Go to http://help.webex.com > =20 --Apple-Mail=_057BF451-7FA1-4D87-ADF3-1683DBCF99D5 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_DCC8D241-BB3D-4E23-92D9-0EBA7F224B30" --Apple-Mail=_DCC8D241-BB3D-4E23-92D9-0EBA7F224B30 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On the occasion of the 4th face-to-face meeting of the One = Data Model Liaison Group here in Stockholm, we will spend a day = discussing the implications of that work on the further activities of = T2TRG/WISHI.  A more detailed agenda will follow.

The physical meeting is in room = Tussilagon at Ericsson headquarters.
Webex information is = below; we won=E2=80=99t have a professional room setup but some laptop = or iPad, but we are a small f2f group.

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, = Carsten


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--Apple-Mail=_DCC8D241-BB3D-4E23-92D9-0EBA7F224B30-- --Apple-Mail=_057BF451-7FA1-4D87-ADF3-1683DBCF99D5-- From nobody Thu Oct 3 00:27:48 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: t2trg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: t2trg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4952C120073 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2019 00:27:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id uHt7VR-BKVlM for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2019 00:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D467120041 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2019 00:27:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.159.97.60] (ewa_guest_internet_sthlm_nat2.ericsson.net [192.176.1.97]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46kPjW1gWdzys7; Thu, 3 Oct 2019 09:27:43 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <868CA6FC-6E61-477C-A33B-45292E020119@tzi.org> Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 09:17:41 +0200 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 591779860.472373-e52f39ecba1b25213ed04038a98125a7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <478721389.350131570031381543.JavaMail.nobody@rva2rmd102.webex.com> <868CA6FC-6E61-477C-A33B-45292E020119@tzi.org> To: t2trg@irtf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [T2TRG] Webex meeting invitation: T2TRG/WISHI work meeting 2019-10-04 X-BeenThere: t2trg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IRTF Thing-to-Thing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2019 07:27:47 -0000 On Oct 2, 2019, at 22:33, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 > A more detailed agenda will follow. We haven=E2=80=99t done a full agenda yet, but it seems one item on that = will be: * Extract architecture from sdf.md SDF is OneDM=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9CSimple Definition Format=E2=80=9D, which = is the common format in which data models are going to be exchanged and = agreed upon. It is being developed at = https://github.com/one-data-model/language SDF has various components, including missing ones that still need to be = defined. A more formal view of what these components are, do, and how = they interact, might help in making use of SDF and in further refining = it without losing architectural integrity. Of course, we also might be = able to identify gaps/opportunities for further development. Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Thu Oct 3 21:15:33 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: t2trg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: t2trg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4B4120865 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2019 21:15:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.198 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.198 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PqVW73woRtxX for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2019 21:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B42E120847 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2019 21:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.34.217] (h-164-71.A137.corp.bahnhof.se [37.123.164.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 46kxPB38Zgz10j2; Fri, 4 Oct 2019 06:15:26 +0200 (CEST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Carsten Bormann X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2019 06:15:25 +0200 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 591855323.963527-7a15ce4329dc967d68f5fda7c35c4876 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <478721389.350131570031381543.JavaMail.nobody@rva2rmd102.webex.com> <868CA6FC-6E61-477C-A33B-45292E020119@tzi.org> To: t2trg@irtf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [T2TRG] Webex meeting invitation: T2TRG/WISHI work meeting 2019-10-04 X-BeenThere: t2trg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IRTF Thing-to-Thing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 04:15:31 -0000 On Oct 3, 2019, at 09:17, Carsten Bormann wrote: >=20 > We haven=E2=80=99t done a full agenda yet, but it seems one item on = that will be: >=20 > * Extract architecture from sdf.md >=20 > SDF is OneDM=E2=80=99s =E2=80=9CSimple Definition Format=E2=80=9D, = which is the common format in which data models are going to be = exchanged and agreed upon. It is being developed at = https://github.com/one-data-model/language >=20 > SDF has various components, including missing ones that still need to = be defined. A more formal view of what these components are, do, and = how they interact, might help in making use of SDF and in further = refining it without losing architectural integrity. Of course, we also = might be able to identify gaps/opportunities for further development. Numbering the above as (1), a few more items that came up: * (2) Terminology This is, of course, closely related to architecture. Can we further = improve on the terminology used to describe SDF? (E.g., one = breakthrough this week was when we found that we have to distinguish = =E2=80=9Cdefinitions=E2=80=9D from =E2=80=9Cdeclarations=E2=80=9D.) * (3) JSON Pointers, CURIEs, Naming for Cross-Referencing within and = between Specs How does the spec refer to definitions done at a different point in the = same spec or in a different spec? The current spec provides a mix of RFC 6901 JSON Pointers (with the = draft-handrews-relative-json-pointer-02.txt extension) and CURIEs. Is there a way to clean this up and simplify it? * (4) Breadcrumbs We found that referring to some other part of the spec might not only = simply want to copy the referred-to part, but also might want to = preserve the identity (whatever that is) of the referred-to part. Is = preserving the JSON pointer (after normalizing it to absolute/CURIE = resolution) all that is needed? (This is related to the age-old issue of =E2=80=9Cname equivalence=E2=80=9D= vs. =E2=80=9Cstructural equivalence=E2=80=9D.) * (5) Semantic Processing What else do we need to enable reasoning on the results of applying an = SDF spec to an interaction? * (6) Versioning of Model Specifications OneDM hasn=E2=80=99t tackled the difficult issue of versioning of model = specifications yet. There are interesting potential objectives for versioning beyond simply = keeping track of them the way git does, e.g., how can a spec be updated = and that update become usable for other specs making use of the original = spec? Does =E2=80=9Csemver=E2=80=9D (semantic versioning, = https://semver.org, draft-claise-semver-02.txt, = draft-verdt-netmod-yang-semver-00.txt) help? Is there some advice we can give? * (7) Reuse Probably closely related to versioning: How can we maximize reuse of = specification components (within a spec, between specs, over time, =E2=80=A6= )? Derivation is one way (may be closely related to what is called = inheritance in object oriented languages); how does that work precisely; = are there other ways? We may not be able to usefully address all of these issues today, so = some triage/prioritization will be needed when we start at 0900 CEST =3D=3D= 0700Z. There is going to be a somewhat extended lunch break as some of us will = be involved in giving a talk from 1300 CEST to 1400 CEST (1100Z..1200Z). See you in (a bit less than) three hours=E2=80=A6 Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten From nobody Fri Oct 4 14:15:50 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: t2trg@irtf.org Delivered-To: t2trg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E24112001E; Fri, 4 Oct 2019 14:15:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: cabo@tzi.org, t2trg@irtf.org, irtf-chair@irtf.org, t2trg-chairs@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.104.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <157022373805.1404.16551861134567774431.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 14:15:38 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [T2TRG] t2trg - New Meeting Session Request for IETF 106 X-BeenThere: t2trg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: IRTF Thing-to-Thing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2019 21:15:38 -0000 A new meeting session request has just been submitted by Carsten Bormann, a Chair of the t2trg working group. --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Thing-to-Thing Area Name: IRTF Session Requester: Carsten Bormann Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 90 Conflicts to Avoid: Chair Conflict: cbor core rats ice artarea lake loops Technology Overlap: saag irtfopen dinrg coinrg 6tisch sacm teep secdispatch httpbis lpwan 6lo roll lwig anima Key Participant Conflict: cfrg icnrg dnssd quic v6ops opsarea intarea i2nsf netconf netmod emu People who must be present: Carsten Bormann Ari Keranen Resources Requested: Special Requests: Please also avoid any potentially IoT related BOFs that might come up --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Fri Oct 18 12:51:02 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: t2trg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: t2trg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C922512086F; 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Sun, 20 Oct 2019 11:45:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 593257539.733766-d395d753ad3a587fd75d4cba39dda151 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2019 11:45:42 +0200 Message-Id: To: Ace Wg , core , cose , cbor@ietf.org, t2trg@irtf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: [T2TRG] Constrained Node/Network Cluster @ IETF106: DRAFT AGENDA X-BeenThere: t2trg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IRTF Thing-to-Thing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2019 09:45:56 -0000 Here is my usual eclectic condensed agenda based on the DRAFT AGENDA for IETF106. Remember that there is still quite some potential for changes. Conflicts that meet the eye: LAKE/SUIT (already noted by Russ), BOF on top (thing security): TMRID. ACE/RATS are also both security technologies that impact IoT. COSE is a technology that might be relevant for WPACK. All times are SGT (Singapore Time) =3D=3D UTC + 8 hours (=3D=3D China = time). Singapore doesn't obey the daylight savings myth. (Pure UTC times at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda-utc are useful for those who want to listen from remote.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten FRIDAY, November 15, 2019 -- T2TRG/W3C WoT Workshop @ NUSS (https://is.gd/XWSfi8) SATURDAY, November 16, 2019 0830-2200 IETF Hackathon - Moor/Morrison SUNDAY, November 17, 2019 0830-1600 IETF Hackathon - Moor/Morrison 1700-1900 Welcome Reception - Fairmont Ballroom Foyer 1800-2000 Hot RFC Lightning Talks -- Padang MONDAY, November 18, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Collyer ART dispatch Dispatch WG - Joint with ARTAREA Sophia IRTF icnrg Information-Centric Networking VIP A SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG 1330-1530 Afternoon Session I VIP A INT dnssd Extensions for Scalable DNS Service = Discovery WG - Joint with HOMENET VIP A INT homenet Home Networking WG - Joint with DNSSD Hullet INT *** lpwan IPv6 over Low Power Wide-Area Networks = WG Olivia IRTF*** dinrg Decentralized Internet Infrastructure Canning IRTF pearg Privacy Enhancements and Assessments = Research Group Padang SEC txauth Transactional Authorization and = Delegation BOF Sophia TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG 1550-1750 Afternoon Session II Collyer ART abcd Application Behavior Considering DNS BOF Padang IRTF irtfopen IRTF Open Meeting Sophia OPS v6ops IPv6 Operations WG Orchard RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy = networks WG Canning SEC mls Messaging Layer Security WG 1810-1910 Afternoon Session III Canning INT *** lwig Light-Weight Implementation Guidance WG Olivia TSV rmcat RTP Media Congestion Avoidance = Techniques WG TUESDAY, November 19, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Hullet RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy = networks WG Olivia SEC *** teep Trusted Execution Environment = Provisioning WG Padang TSV quic QUIC WG 1330-1500 Afternoon Session I VIP A INT tmrid Trustworthy Multipurpose Remote ID BOF Padang IRTF maprg Measurement and Analysis for Protocols Canning SEC *** lake Lightweight Authenticated Key Exchange = WG Olivia SEC *** suit Software Updates for Internet of Things = WG 1520-1650 Afternoon Session II Canning INT intarea Internet Area Working Group WG Olivia SEC *** ace Authentication and Authorization for = Constrained Environments WG VIP A SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG Hullet TSV taps Transport Services WG 1710-1840 Afternoon Session III Hullet IRTF qirg Quantum Internet Proposed Research Group Sophia OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model = and Approach WG Orchard RTG babel Babel routing protocol WG Padang SEC secdispatch Security Dispatch WG WEDNESDAY, November 20, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Collyer RTG raw Reliable and Available Wireless BOF Sophia SEC *** teep Trusted Execution Environment = Provisioning WG Padang TSV quic QUIC WG 1330-1500 Afternoon Session I Canning ART webtrans WebTransport BOF Sophia INT *** 6lo IPv6 over Networks of = Resource-constrained Nodes WG Collyer IRTF cfrg Crypto Forum Olivia SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG 1520-1650 Afternoon Session II Orchard ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Hullet OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model = and Approach WG Collyer SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG Sophia TSV tsvarea Transport Area Open Meeting THURSDAY, November 21, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Sophia IRTF*** t2trg Thing-to-Thing VIP A RTG bier Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG Padang SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG Collyer TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG 1330-1530 Afternoon Session I Collyer ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Sophia INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Olivia RTG rift Routing In Fat Trees WG Canning SEC saag Security Area Open Meeting 1550-1720 Afternoon Session II Padang ART wpack Web Packaging BOF Canning RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG Sophia SEC *** cose CBOR Object Signing and Encryption WG Hullet SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG 1740-1840 Afternoon Session III Olivia ART *** cbor Concise Binary Object Representation = Maintenance and Extensions WG Sophia GEN git GitHub Integration and Tooling WG Padang INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Canning RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG FRIDAY, November 22, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Collyer ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Hullet INT *** 6tisch IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE = 802.15.4e WG Sophia IRTF coinrg Computing in the Network Proposed = Research Group Olivia SEC mathmesh MatheMatical Mesh BOF 1220-1350 Morning Session II Hullet ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Sophia IRTF panrg Path Aware Networking RG Olivia SEC acme Automated Certificate Management = Environment WG From nobody Mon Oct 21 12:48:45 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: t2trg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: t2trg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06ED1208FB for ; 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Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:12:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "\"IETF Secretariat\"" To: , Cc: t2trg@irtf.org, irtf-chair@irtf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.108.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <157203793998.2724.402391101022277491.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:12:19 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [T2TRG] t2trg - Requested session has been scheduled for IETF 106 X-BeenThere: t2trg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: IRTF Thing-to-Thing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:18:42 -0000 Dear Carsten Bormann, The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. Below is the scheduled session information followed by the original request. t2trg Session 1 (2:00 requested) Thursday, 21 November 2019, Morning Session I 1000-1200 Room Name: Sophia size: 200 --------------------------------------------- iCalendar: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/sessions/t2trg.ics Request Information: --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Thing-to-Thing Area Name: IRTF Session Requester: Carsten Bormann Number of Sessions: 1 Length of Session(s): 2 Hours Number of Attendees: 90 Conflicts to Avoid: Chair Conflict: cbor core rats ice artarea lake loops Technology Overlap: saag irtfopen dinrg coinrg 6tisch sacm teep secdispatch httpbis lpwan 6lo roll lwig anima Key Participant Conflict: cfrg icnrg dnssd quic v6ops opsarea intarea i2nsf netconf netmod emu People who must be present: Carsten Bormann Ari Keranen Resources Requested: Special Requests: Please also avoid any potentially IoT related BOFs that might come up --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Fri Oct 25 14:39:31 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: t2trg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: t2trg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9093E12004A for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:39:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.199 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.199 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id decsFEeLd1QQ for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.50.17]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1FB86120020 for ; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 14:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.217.110] (p5089AE1C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [80.137.174.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by gabriel-vm-2.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 470HYc0qPczyY2; Fri, 25 Oct 2019 23:39:00 +0200 (CEST) From: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Mao-Original-Outgoing-Id: 593732337.7825429-22303503c08916d892453144e1d146d6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 23:38:59 +0200 Message-Id: To: ace@ietf.org, core@ietf.org, cose@ietf.org, cbor@ietf.org, t2trg@irtf.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Archived-At: Subject: [T2TRG] Constrained Node/Network Cluster @ IETF106: FINAL AGENDA X-BeenThere: t2trg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: IRTF Thing-to-Thing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2019 21:39:06 -0000 Here is my usual eclectic condensed agenda based on the FINAL AGENDA for IETF106. Remember that, occasionally, futher agenda changes do happen. Quite a bit has been moved around from the draft agenda. LAKE no longer conflicts with SUIT, TMRID is now on top of ROLL and TEEP which is maybe a bit less of a problem for most. ACE/RATS still conflict (and the other RATS meeting has moved from Monday to Friday on top of COINRG, but you can do this RATS thing without me, can you?). WPACK no longer conflicts with COSE (but now does with LAKE, which again probably just is a personal problem), LAKE/ANIMA is a technology and a potential user again. All times are SGT (Singapore Time) =3D=3D UTC + 8 hours (=3D=3D China = time). Singapore doesn't obey the daylight savings myth. (Pure UTC times at https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda-utc are useful for those who want to listen from remote.) Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten FRIDAY, November 15, 2019 -- T2TRG/W3C WoT Workshop @ NUSS (https://is.gd/XWSfi8) SATURDAY, November 16, 2019 0830-2200 IETF Hackathon - Moor/Morrison SUNDAY, November 17, 2019 0830-1600 IETF Hackathon - Moor/Morrison 1700-1900 Welcome Reception - Fairmont Ballroom Foyer 1800-2000 Hot RFC Lightning Talks -- Padang MONDAY, November 18, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Sophia ART dispatch Dispatch WG - Joint with ARTAREA Olivia IRTF icnrg Information-Centric Networking Collyer SEC mathmesh MatheMatical Mesh BOF 1330-1530 Afternoon Session I VIP A INT dnssd Extensions for Scalable DNS Service = Discovery WG - Joint with HOMENET VIP A INT homenet Home Networking WG - Joint with DNSSD Olivia IRTF*** dinrg Decentralized Internet Infrastructure Canning IRTF pearg Privacy Enhancements and Assessments = Research Group Padang SEC txauth Transactional Authorization and = Delegation BOF Sophia TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG 1550-1750 Afternoon Session II Canning ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Padang IRTF irtfopen IRTF Open Meeting Collyer OPS v6ops IPv6 Operations WG Orchard RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy = networks WG 1810-1910 Afternoon Session III Olivia INT *** lwig Light-Weight Implementation Guidance WG Padang IRTF maprg Measurement and Analysis for Protocols TUESDAY, November 19, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I VIP A INT tmrid Trustworthy Multipurpose Remote ID BOF Olivia RTG *** roll Routing Over Low power and Lossy = networks WG Sophia SEC *** teep Trusted Execution Environment = Provisioning WG Padang TSV quic QUIC WG 1330-1500 Afternoon Session I Padang ART abcd Application Behavior Considering DNS BOF VIP A RTG babel Babel routing protocol WG Sophia SEC *** suit Software Updates for Internet of Things = WG Hullet TSV rmcat RTP Media Congestion Avoidance = Techniques WG 1520-1650 Afternoon Session II Sophia GEN git GitHub Integration and Tooling WG Collyer INT *** lpwan IPv6 over Low Power Wide-Area Networks = WG Olivia SEC *** ace Authentication and Authorization for = Constrained Environments WG VIP A SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG Hullet TSV taps Transport Services WG 1710-1840 Afternoon Session III Hullet IRTF qirg Quantum Internet Proposed Research Group Sophia OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model = and Approach WG Padang SEC secdispatch Security Dispatch WG WEDNESDAY, November 20, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Sophia ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Canning RTG raw Reliable and Available Wireless BOF Olivia SEC *** teep Trusted Execution Environment = Provisioning WG Padang TSV quic QUIC WG 1330-1500 Afternoon Session I Collyer ART webtrans WebTransport BOF Sophia INT *** 6lo IPv6 over Networks of = Resource-constrained Nodes WG Canning IRTF cfrg Crypto Forum Olivia SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG 1520-1650 Afternoon Session II Collyer ART wpack Web Packaging BOF Hullet OPS anima Autonomic Networking Integrated Model = and Approach WG Sophia SEC *** lake Lightweight Authenticated Key Exchange = WG 1710-1940 IETF Plenary - Canning/Padang THURSDAY, November 21, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Sophia IRTF*** t2trg Thing-to-Thing Orchard RTG bier Bit Indexed Explicit Replication WG Padang SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG Canning TSV tsvwg Transport Area Working Group WG 1330-1530 Afternoon Session I Collyer ART httpbis Hypertext Transfer Protocol WG Sophia INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Olivia RTG rift Routing In Fat Trees WG Canning SEC saag Security Area Open Meeting 1550-1720 Afternoon Session II Padang INT intarea Internet Area Working Group WG Collyer RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG Sophia SEC *** cose CBOR Object Signing and Encryption WG Hullet SEC oauth Web Authorization Protocol WG 1740-1840 Afternoon Session III Hullet ART *** cbor Concise Binary Object Representation = Maintenance and Extensions WG Sophia INT 6man IPv6 Maintenance WG Collyer RTG detnet Deterministic Networking WG Canning SEC tls Transport Layer Security WG Padang TSV tsvarea Transport Area Open Meeting FRIDAY, November 22, 2019 1000-1200 Morning Session I Hullet INT *** 6tisch IPv6 over the TSCH mode of IEEE = 802.15.4e WG Sophia IRTF coinrg Computing in the Network Proposed = Research Group Canning SEC mls Messaging Layer Security WG Orchard SEC *** rats Remote ATtestation ProcedureS WG 1220-1350 Morning Session II Hullet ART *** core Constrained RESTful Environments WG Sophia IRTF panrg Path Aware Networking RG Olivia SEC acme Automated Certificate Management = Environment WG From nobody Mon Oct 28 05:18:22 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: t2trg@irtf.org Delivered-To: t2trg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 273E012001E; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 05:18:20 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: cabo@tzi.org, t2trg@irtf.org, irtf-chair@irtf.org, t2trg-chairs@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.108.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <157226510009.19838.16742081177650754000.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 05:18:20 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [T2TRG] t2trg - New Interim Meeting Request X-BeenThere: t2trg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: IRTF Thing-to-Thing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 12:18:20 -0000 A new interim meeting request has just been submitted by Carsten Bormann. This request requires approval by the Chair of the IRTF The meeting can be approved here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2019-t2trg-02 --------------------------------------------------------- Research Group Name: Thing-to-Thing Session Requester: Carsten Bormann City: Singapore Country: SG Session 1: Date: 2019-11-15 Start Time: 09:00 Asia/Singapore Duration: 08:00 Remote Participation Information: Remote participation will be on a best effort basis (e.g., Jitsi on iPad) Agenda Note: This is a joint workshop with W3C WoT --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Mon Oct 28 10:13:40 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: t2trg@irtf.org Delivered-To: t2trg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2488212008B; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 10:13:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IESG Secretary To: "IETF-Announce" , "IRTF-Announce" Cc: t2trg@irtf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.108.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <157228280506.16130.13215296745946613616@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 10:13:25 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [T2TRG] Thing-to-Thing (t2trg) RG Interim Meeting: 2019-11-15 X-BeenThere: t2trg@irtf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: IRTF Thing-to-Thing Research Group List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2019 17:13:25 -0000 The Thing-to-Thing (t2trg) Research Group will hold an interim meeting on 2019-11-15 from 09:00 to 17:00 Asia/Singapore. Meeting Location: Singapore, SG Agenda: Agenda is being prepared at https://github.com/t2trg/2019-11-singapore Information about remote participation: Remote participation will be on a best effort basis (e.g., Jitsi on iPad) This is a joint workshop with W3C WoT From nobody Mon Oct 28 13:56:04 2019 Return-Path: X-Original-To: t2trg@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: t2trg@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19F32120024 for ; Mon, 28 Oct 2019 13:56:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.001, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=ericsson.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L19dZ3vy2Y-U for ; 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