From nobody Wed Apr 1 05:53:40 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A80B3A0E44 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 05:53:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fx1cBm1xjW0e for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 05:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FE733A0E49 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 05:53:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7107E6213F for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 08:53:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id te6v6QWeUaTV for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 08:53:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6CFC862136 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 08:53:20 -0400 (EDT) References: <158574392150.31103.17352870286276375130@ietfa.amsl.com> To: "tm-rid@ietf.org" From: Robert Moskowitz X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <158574392150.31103.17352870286276375130@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-ID: <45363d54-2bac-7fa1-7159-a84dab7b0d9f@labs.htt-consult.com> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 08:53:11 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <158574392150.31103.17352870286276375130@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------F36401445E9A755A5B8ABB5E" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Tm-rid] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-00.txt X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 12:53:37 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------F36401445E9A755A5B8ABB5E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This is a new draft for the wg to consider. The ASTM System Message contains (currently) 8 bytes worth of Operator PII:  Where is the Operator. In Broadcast RID, this is sent in the clear to all observers.  Not so good. This draft encrypts those fields using an hybrid ECIES approach. Only the Operator's USS can decrypt the content and make it available to authorized entities. Two challenges in this draft (that's all ;) ): What cipher to use that can encrypt 64 bits in place.  Speck is used, with all of its negative reviews.  This morning I was pointed to a survey of ciphers that may offer an alternative cipher. Who does this draft work with cs-rid?  If the SDSP in cs-rid is not the USS, it has to 'ask' the USS for help, so the backend gets complex, but that is out-of-scope here. Finally issue.  ASTM F38 is virtually meeting next week.  I will miss the F38.02 session wednesday, as that is Passover.  Stu, Adam, and Ray will cover.  One topic will be to add potentially 4 bytes to this message to add Operator Barometric Altitude per the FAA and EU request.  So now I have to encrypt 96 bits!  Of course once we are opening up the box, if I can get them to add a 2 byte counter, I can use AES-CTR (this point is in the draft). Anyway, right now it is a short draft and really expects the reader to know about the ASTM messages and other DRIP work. Enjoy, all! Bob -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-00.txt Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 05:25:21 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Stuart Card , Stuart W. Card , Robert Moskowitz , Adam Wiethuechter A new version of I-D, draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Robert Moskowitz and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy Revision: 00 Title: Operator Privacy for RemoteID Messages Document date: 2020-03-31 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 7 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-00 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy Abstract: This document describes a method of providing privacy for Operator information specified in the ASTM UAS Remote ID and Tracking messages. This is achieved by encrypting, in place, those fields containing Operator sensitive data using a hybrid ECIES. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat --------------F36401445E9A755A5B8ABB5E Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This is a new draft for the wg to consider.

The ASTM System Message contains (currently) 8 bytes worth of Operator PII:  Where is the Operator.

In Broadcast RID, this is sent in the clear to all observers.  Not so good.

This draft encrypts those fields using an hybrid ECIES approach.  Only the Operator's USS can decrypt the content and make it available to authorized entities.

Two challenges in this draft (that's all ;) ):

What cipher to use that can encrypt 64 bits in place.  Speck is used, with all of its negative reviews.  This morning I was pointed to a survey of ciphers that may offer an alternative cipher.

Who does this draft work with cs-rid?  If the SDSP in cs-rid is not the USS, it has to 'ask' the USS for help, so the backend gets complex, but that is out-of-scope here.

Finally issue.  ASTM F38 is virtually meeting next week.  I will miss the F38.02 session wednesday, as that is Passover.  Stu, Adam, and Ray will cover.  One topic will be to add potentially 4 bytes to this message to add Operator Barometric Altitude per the FAA and EU request.  So now I have to encrypt 96 bits!  Of course once we are opening up the box, if I can get them to add a 2 byte counter, I can use AES-CTR (this point is in the draft).

Anyway, right now it is a short draft and really expects the reader to know about the ASTM messages and other DRIP work.

Enjoy, all!

Bob


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Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 05:25:21 -0700
From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
To: Stuart Card <stu.card@axenterprize.com>, Stuart W. Card <stu.card@axenterprize.com>, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>, Adam Wiethuechter <adam.wiethuechter@axenterprize.com>



A new version of I-D, draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-00.txt
has been successfully submitted by Robert Moskowitz and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name: draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy
Revision: 00
Title: Operator Privacy for RemoteID Messages
Document date: 2020-03-31
Group: Individual Submission
Pages: 7
URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-00.txt
Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy/
Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-00
Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy


Abstract:
This document describes a method of providing privacy for Operator
information specified in the ASTM UAS Remote ID and Tracking
messages. This is achieved by encrypting, in place, those fields
containing Operator sensitive data using a hybrid ECIES.



Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

The IETF Secretariat


--------------F36401445E9A755A5B8ABB5E-- From nobody Wed Apr 1 12:52:35 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E6E3A12A1 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 12:52:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0L83kEKT4hvn for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 12:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AFD13A0EC1 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 12:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9503D6213F for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 15:52:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Gp7JcFT9tvNO for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 15:52:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B1C3462136 for ; Wed, 1 Apr 2020 15:52:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Moskowitz To: "tm-rid@ietf.org" References: <158574392150.31103.17352870286276375130@ietfa.amsl.com> <45363d54-2bac-7fa1-7159-a84dab7b0d9f@labs.htt-consult.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 15:52:07 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <45363d54-2bac-7fa1-7159-a84dab7b0d9f@labs.htt-consult.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------975C05E7E2C437018F8A46D4" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tm-rid] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-00.txt X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 19:52:34 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------975C05E7E2C437018F8A46D4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have gained more information on ciphers I can use here.  I am working up the next version where: 1) Recommended cipher will be AES-CFB16 (SP800-38A, sec 6.3) with an IV shared between the Operator and USS as outlined in the AES-CTR proposal.  This is the cleanest using 'mainstream' crypto.  There is a risk in the same IV used for all System Messages for a mission. The reason for CFB16 rather, than say CFB8. 2) Speck as currently specified, referencing ISO/29167-22 (need a real reference to include in xml) 3) Some other 64 bit cipher TBD. 4) AES-CTR that needs a 2 byte counter added to the message. Lots of guidance from the cfrg list. Anyone want to join in the fun? On 4/1/20 8:53 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > This is a new draft for the wg to consider. > > The ASTM System Message contains (currently) 8 bytes worth of Operator > PII:  Where is the Operator. > > In Broadcast RID, this is sent in the clear to all observers.  Not so > good. > > This draft encrypts those fields using an hybrid ECIES approach. Only > the Operator's USS can decrypt the content and make it available to > authorized entities. > > Two challenges in this draft (that's all ;) ): > > What cipher to use that can encrypt 64 bits in place.  Speck is used, > with all of its negative reviews.  This morning I was pointed to a > survey of ciphers that may offer an alternative cipher. > > Who does this draft work with cs-rid?  If the SDSP in cs-rid is not > the USS, it has to 'ask' the USS for help, so the backend gets > complex, but that is out-of-scope here. > > Finally issue.  ASTM F38 is virtually meeting next week.  I will miss > the F38.02 session wednesday, as that is Passover.  Stu, Adam, and Ray > will cover.  One topic will be to add potentially 4 bytes to this > message to add Operator Barometric Altitude per the FAA and EU > request.  So now I have to encrypt 96 bits!  Of course once we are > opening up the box, if I can get them to add a 2 byte counter, I can > use AES-CTR (this point is in the draft). > > Anyway, right now it is a short draft and really expects the reader to > know about the ASTM messages and other DRIP work. > > Enjoy, all! > > Bob > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: New Version Notification for > draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-00.txt > Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 05:25:21 -0700 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: Stuart Card , Stuart W. Card > , Robert Moskowitz > , Adam Wiethuechter > > > > > > A new version of I-D, draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by Robert Moskowitz and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy > Revision: 00 > Title: Operator Privacy for RemoteID Messages > Document date: 2020-03-31 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 7 > URL: > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-00.txt > Status: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy/ > Htmlized: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-00 > Htmlized: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy > > > Abstract: > This document describes a method of providing privacy for Operator > information specified in the ASTM UAS Remote ID and Tracking > messages. This is achieved by encrypting, in place, those fields > containing Operator sensitive data using a hybrid ECIES. > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > > -- Standard Robert Moskowitz Owner HTT Consulting C:248-219-2059 F:248-968-2824 E:rgm@labs.htt-consult.com There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit --------------975C05E7E2C437018F8A46D4 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have gained more information on ciphers I can use here.  I am working up the next version where:

1) Recommended cipher will be AES-CFB16 (SP800-38A, sec 6.3) with an IV shared between the Operator and USS as outlined in the AES-CTR proposal.  This is the cleanest using 'mainstream' crypto.  There is a risk in the same IV used for all System Messages for a mission.  The reason for CFB16 rather, than say CFB8.

2) Speck as currently specified, referencing ISO/29167-22 (need a real reference to include in xml)

3) Some other 64 bit cipher TBD.

4) AES-CTR that needs a 2 byte counter added to the message.

Lots of guidance from the cfrg list.

Anyone want to join in the fun?


On 4/1/20 8:53 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
This is a new draft for the wg to consider.

The ASTM System Message contains (currently) 8 bytes worth of Operator PII:  Where is the Operator.

In Broadcast RID, this is sent in the clear to all observers.  Not so good.

This draft encrypts those fields using an hybrid ECIES approach.  Only the Operator's USS can decrypt the content and make it available to authorized entities.

Two challenges in this draft (that's all ;) ):

What cipher to use that can encrypt 64 bits in place.  Speck is used, with all of its negative reviews.  This morning I was pointed to a survey of ciphers that may offer an alternative cipher.

Who does this draft work with cs-rid?  If the SDSP in cs-rid is not the USS, it has to 'ask' the USS for help, so the backend gets complex, but that is out-of-scope here.

Finally issue.  ASTM F38 is virtually meeting next week.  I will miss the F38.02 session wednesday, as that is Passover.  Stu, Adam, and Ray will cover.  One topic will be to add potentially 4 bytes to this message to add Operator Barometric Altitude per the FAA and EU request.  So now I have to encrypt 96 bits!  Of course once we are opening up the box, if I can get them to add a 2 byte counter, I can use AES-CTR (this point is in the draft).

Anyway, right now it is a short draft and really expects the reader to know about the ASTM messages and other DRIP work.

Enjoy, all!

Bob


-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-00.txt
Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2020 05:25:21 -0700
From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
To: Stuart Card <stu.card@axenterprize.com>, Stuart W. Card <stu.card@axenterprize.com>, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>, Adam Wiethuechter <adam.wiethuechter@axenterprize.com>



A new version of I-D, draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-00.txt
has been successfully submitted by Robert Moskowitz and posted to the
IETF repository.

Name: draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy
Revision: 00
Title: Operator Privacy for RemoteID Messages
Document date: 2020-03-31
Group: Individual Submission
Pages: 7
URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-00.txt
Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy/
Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-00
Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy


Abstract:
This document describes a method of providing privacy for Operator
information specified in the ASTM UAS Remote ID and Tracking
messages. This is achieved by encrypting, in place, those fields
containing Operator sensitive data using a hybrid ECIES.



Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission
until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org.

The IETF Secretariat




--
Standard Robert Moskowitz
Owner
HTT Consulting
C:      248-219-2059
F:      248-968-2824
E:      rgm@labs.htt-consult.com

There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit
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Attached please find the comments on the FAA UAS RID NPRM that I submitted shortly before the March 02 deadline.

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We should get IETF [DRIP] added to their list of "Private Sector SDO Activities" and engage actively in their consultation process. --000000000000afcd1705a2500d79 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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356 pages long s= o I have not yet plowed through it all, but even a quick look yields some i= nteresting points.

We should get IETF [DRIP] added= to their list of "Private Sector SDO Activities" and engage acti= vely in their consultation process.


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Look at GAP08 and 09 on pgs 252 & 3. We have direct input to 08 and watch for yet another draft from me on N-RID transport which will addres 09. 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Thi= s will give you an idea of what some people are contemplating. What new req= uirements this will impose are anyone's guess.
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--00000000000037a28205a25557c1-- From nobody Thu Apr 2 14:20:02 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA25F3A1A06 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 14:20:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oHcINzjm4ZKs for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 14:19:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A779D3A1AA0 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 14:19:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75DF762133 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 17:19:50 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id K2SW2Y0ZGzQQ for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 17:19:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A1C4262136 for ; Thu, 2 Apr 2020 17:19:44 -0400 (EDT) References: <158586211487.26401.6515660668280367106@ietfa.amsl.com> To: "tm-rid@ietf.org" From: Robert Moskowitz X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <158586211487.26401.6515660668280367106@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-ID: <8362e69d-f36e-c2db-09a9-f6e8d1d0e501@labs.htt-consult.com> Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2020 17:19:37 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <158586211487.26401.6515660668280367106@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------C1F489AFC5444A4936D2EF5B" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Tm-rid] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-01.txt X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 21:20:01 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C1F489AFC5444A4936D2EF5B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have enhanced the cipher content. After more discussions on the cfrg list, I have added AES-CFB16 which is probably a very safe choice.  But take a read. I am moving away from thinking about this draft, as I have yet one more to contribute before the ASTM meeting.  Hopefully get it done with all the pre-Passover items to do as well. Pleasant reading. Bob -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-01.txt Date: Thu, 02 Apr 2020 14:15:14 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Robert Moskowitz , Stuart Card , Stuart W. Card , Adam Wiethuechter A new version of I-D, draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-01.txt has been successfully submitted by Robert Moskowitz and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy Revision: 01 Title: Operator Privacy for RemoteID Messages Document date: 2020-04-02 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 9 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-01.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-01 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-01 Abstract: This document describes a method of providing privacy for Operator information specified in the ASTM UAS Remote ID and Tracking messages. This is achieved by encrypting, in place, those fields containing Operator sensitive data using a hybrid ECIES. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat --------------C1F489AFC5444A4936D2EF5B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have enhanced the cipher content.

After more discussions on the cfrg list, I have added AES-CFB16 which is probably a very safe choice.  But take a read.

I am moving away from thinking about this draft, as I have yet one more to contribute before the ASTM meeting.  Hopefully get it done with all the pre-Passover items to do as well.

Pleasant reading.

Bob


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Revision: 01
Title: Operator Privacy for RemoteID Messages
Document date: 2020-04-02
Group: Individual Submission
Pages: 9
URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-01.txt
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Abstract:
This document describes a method of providing privacy for Operator
information specified in the ASTM UAS Remote ID and Tracking
messages. This is achieved by encrypting, in place, those fields
containing Operator sensitive data using a hybrid ECIES.



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--------------C1F489AFC5444A4936D2EF5B-- From nobody Fri Apr 3 06:27:42 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F35CD3A095D for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 06:27:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lGt_0EHWsh0w for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 06:27:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 549B53A094F for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 06:27:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCFC262153 for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 09:27:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id l7m6xzcRHArE for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 09:27:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D35656213F for ; Fri, 3 Apr 2020 09:27:21 -0400 (EDT) References: <158592024271.17378.3048084141825966883@ietfa.amsl.com> To: "tm-rid@ietf.org" From: Robert Moskowitz X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <158592024271.17378.3048084141825966883@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2020 09:27:19 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <158592024271.17378.3048084141825966883@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------3DB64D26BA7E178EF0552489" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Tm-rid] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-hip-fast-mobility-03.txt X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 13:27:41 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3DB64D26BA7E178EF0552489 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have updated the hip-fast-mobility draft. I welcome review. It will be used in an upcoming N-RID secure transport draft that will also include secure C2 transport. Stay tuned... -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-hip-fast-mobility-03.txt Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2020 06:24:02 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Stuart W. Card , Adam Wiethuechter , Robert Moskowitz , Stuart Card A new version of I-D, draft-moskowitz-hip-fast-mobility-03.txt has been successfully submitted by Robert Moskowitz and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-moskowitz-hip-fast-mobility Revision: 03 Title: Fast HIP Host Mobility Document date: 2020-04-03 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 9 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-hip-fast-mobility-03.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-hip-fast-mobility/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moskowitz-hip-fast-mobility-03 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-moskowitz-hip-fast-mobility Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-moskowitz-hip-fast-mobility-03 Abstract: This document describes mobility scenarios and how to aggressively support them in HIP. The goal is minimum lag in the mobility event. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat --------------3DB64D26BA7E178EF0552489 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have updated the hip-fast-mobility draft.

I welcome review.

It will be used in an upcoming N-RID secure transport draft that will also include secure C2 transport.

Stay tuned...


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Name: draft-moskowitz-hip-fast-mobility
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Title: Fast HIP Host Mobility
Document date: 2020-04-03
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Pages: 9
URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-hip-fast-mobility-03.txt
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Abstract:
This document describes mobility scenarios and how to aggressively
support them in HIP. The goal is minimum lag in the mobility event.



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--------------3DB64D26BA7E178EF0552489-- From nobody Sun Apr 5 18:44:35 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tm-rid@ietf.org Delivered-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD75D3A0AF4; Sun, 5 Apr 2020 18:44:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool To: Cc: evyncke@cisco.com, mglt.ietf@gmail.com, tm-rid@ietf.org, drip-chairs@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.124.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <158613747277.15081.7475980072610387535@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2020 18:44:32 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Tm-rid] drip - New Interim Meeting Request X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2020 01:44:33 -0000 A new interim meeting series request has just been submitted by Daniel Migault. This request requires approval by the Area Director of the Internet Area The meetings can be approved here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-01 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-02 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-03 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-04 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-05 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-06 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-07 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-08 Meeting: 1 --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Drone Remote ID Protocol Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Daniel Migault Meeting Type: Virtual Meeting Session 1: Date: 2020-04-22 Start Time: 11:00 America/New_York Duration: 00:00 Remote Participation Information: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754 Agenda Note: --------------------------------------------------------- Meeting: 2 --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Drone Remote ID Protocol Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Daniel Migault Meeting Type: Virtual Meeting Session 1: Date: 2020-05-27 Start Time: 11:00 America/New_York Duration: 00:00 Remote Participation Information: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754 Agenda Note: --------------------------------------------------------- Meeting: 3 --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Drone Remote ID Protocol Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Daniel Migault Meeting Type: Virtual Meeting Session 1: Date: 2020-06-24 Start Time: 11:00 America/New_York Duration: 00:00 Remote Participation Information: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754 Agenda Note: --------------------------------------------------------- Meeting: 4 --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Drone Remote ID Protocol Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Daniel Migault Meeting Type: Virtual Meeting Session 1: Date: 2020-07-22 Start Time: 11:00 America/New_York Duration: 00:00 Remote Participation Information: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754 Agenda Note: --------------------------------------------------------- Meeting: 5 --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Drone Remote ID Protocol Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Daniel Migault Meeting Type: Virtual Meeting Session 1: Date: 2020-08-26 Start Time: 11:00 America/New_York Duration: 00:00 Remote Participation Information: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754 Agenda Note: --------------------------------------------------------- Meeting: 6 --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Drone Remote ID Protocol Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Daniel Migault Meeting Type: Virtual Meeting Session 1: Date: 2020-09-23 Start Time: 11:00 America/New_York Duration: 00:00 Remote Participation Information: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754 Agenda Note: --------------------------------------------------------- Meeting: 7 --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Drone Remote ID Protocol Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Daniel Migault Meeting Type: Virtual Meeting Session 1: Date: 2020-10-28 Start Time: 11:00 America/New_York Duration: 00:00 Remote Participation Information: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754 Agenda Note: --------------------------------------------------------- Meeting: 8 --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Drone Remote ID Protocol Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Daniel Migault Meeting Type: Virtual Meeting Session 1: Date: 2020-10-28 Start Time: 11:00 America/New_York Duration: 00:00 Remote Participation Information: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754 Agenda Note: --------------------------------------------------------- From nobody Mon Apr 6 05:20:20 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4D03A0AE1 for ; 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Mon, 6 Apr 2020 08:19:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 37D0F62136 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 08:19:51 -0400 (EDT) References: <158617526838.9034.15189080420812140958@ietfa.amsl.com> To: "tm-rid@ietf.org" From: Robert Moskowitz X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <158617526838.9034.15189080420812140958@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-ID: <3493f1f5-3908-fe7c-eea3-a77a54904291@labs.htt-consult.com> Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 08:19:44 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <158617526838.9034.15189080420812140958@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------4DE78C45B35C6A1778D9C89D" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Tm-rid] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-drip-secure-nrid-c2-00.txt X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2020 12:20:17 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------4DE78C45B35C6A1778D9C89D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is yet another important piece for DRIP. I welcome everyone to read it and comment. Bob -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-drip-secure-nrid-c2-00.txt Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2020 05:14:28 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Stuart Card , Robert Moskowitz , Adam Wiethuechter , Stuart W. Card , Andrei Gurtov A new version of I-D, draft-moskowitz-drip-secure-nrid-c2-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Robert Moskowitz and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-moskowitz-drip-secure-nrid-c2 Revision: 00 Title: Secure UAS Network RID and C2 Transport Document date: 2020-04-06 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 11 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-drip-secure-nrid-c2-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-drip-secure-nrid-c2/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-secure-nrid-c2-00 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-secure-nrid-c2 Abstract: This document provides the mechanisms for secure transport of UAS Network-RemoteID and Command-and-Control messaging. Both HIP and DTLS based methods are described. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat --------------4DE78C45B35C6A1778D9C89D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Here is yet another important piece for DRIP.

I welcome everyone to read it and comment.

Bob


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Name: draft-moskowitz-drip-secure-nrid-c2
Revision: 00
Title: Secure UAS Network RID and C2 Transport
Document date: 2020-04-06
Group: Individual Submission
Pages: 11
URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-drip-secure-nrid-c2-00.txt
Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-drip-secure-nrid-c2/
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Abstract:
This document provides the mechanisms for secure transport of UAS
Network-RemoteID and Command-and-Control messaging. Both HIP and
DTLS based methods are described.



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Meanwhile Adam and I have other important documents that we are putting forth for consideration for wg adoption.  These are: draft-wiethuechter-drip-auth draft-wiethuechter-tmrid-identity-claims draft-moskowitz-drip-crowd-sourced-rid draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy draft-moskowitz-drip-secure-nrid-c2 While Adam and I help Stu move the arch and req drafts forward, please review these other drafts so when we have the Interim virtual meeting, they can also be included. 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X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.170.148.18] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [Tm-rid] DRIP, EPP, RDAP, and the DNS X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2020 13:54:27 -0000 I mentioned this in Jabber during the IETF-107 virtual meeting, but I'll me= ntion it on-list as well: if this group gets around to talking about how EP= P, RDAP, and the DNS can be used in a DRIP context, there are people who ha= ve expertise in those technologies who are following the work here and are = willing to help. How can we help, and at what point do you think that help = will be needed? Scott From nobody Mon Apr 6 07:10:30 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFBC03A07FE for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 07:10:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RQKDr8YPLCQV for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 07:10:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD06D3A0825 for ; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 07:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 343D762196; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 10:10:13 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 6R5PeQCFyKv3; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 10:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8C6176218E; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 10:10:09 -0400 (EDT) To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" , "tm-rid@ietf.org" References: <0a2945d803314dd9b2bc786ed1075044@verisign.com> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2020 10:10:03 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0a2945d803314dd9b2bc786ed1075044@verisign.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tm-rid] DRIP, EPP, RDAP, and the DNS X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2020 14:10:28 -0000 On 4/6/20 9:54 AM, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > I mentioned this in Jabber during the IETF-107 virtual meeting, but I'll mention it on-list as well: if this group gets around to talking about how EPP, RDAP, and the DNS can be used in a DRIP context, there are people who have expertise in those technologies who are following the work here and are willing to help. How can we help, and at what point do you think that help will be needed? > > Scott So of the DNS pieces I attempt to cover in: draft-moskowitz-hip-hierarchical-hit And I would really like input on this, as it also has some impact on how the RAA bits are divvied up. Basically it is next on my list.  But I may have to pitch in on the arch and req drafts, if Stu is out for a while... Bob From nobody Mon Apr 6 13:38:46 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tm-rid@ietf.org Delivered-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7A0C3A07A2; Mon, 6 Apr 2020 13:38:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IESG Secretary To: "IETF-Announce" Cc: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.124.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <158620551969.7662.2597656110459543345@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2020 13:38:39 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Tm-rid] Drone Remote ID Protocol (drip) WG Virtual Meeting: 2020-04-22 X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2020 20:38:40 -0000 The Drone Remote ID Protocol (drip) Working Group will hold a virtual interim meeting on 2020-04-22 from 11:00 to 12:00 America/New_York (15:00 to 16:00 UTC). 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Wed, 08 Apr 2020 10:44:46 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <8d9b9ac3-9340-7817-580e-99fa36c77008@labs.htt-consult.com> <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933031491900@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> In-Reply-To: <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B933031491900@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> From: "Card, Stu" Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2020 13:44:36 -0400 Message-ID: To: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Cc: Robert Moskowitz , "tm-rid@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005d0f5c05a2cb0e5b" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tm-rid] DRIP workgroup documents adoption X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2020 17:44:50 -0000 --0000000000005d0f5c05a2cb0e5b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable much-appreciated colleagues -- I will try to make the changes I promised, based on feedback received prior to and during our meeting. However, due to [short-term] health issues, how much I will get done, how long before APR 22, is questionable. I will try to do my part ASAP so all those who have graciously volunteered can go from there. Some of you are aware that the ASTM F38.02 working group that produced F3411-19 meets Thursday. I have been invited by the work item leader Gabriel Cox to present an overview of our DRIP work. I must present to the owner of the facility where we have been flight-testing all this on Monday. So those 2 items have taken short-term priority over revising the 2 DRIP drafts. IETF remains the venue where I expect to make my primary contribution, as well as the community where I feel most at home. :-) -- Stu On Wed, Apr 8, 2020 at 1:27 PM wrote: > Hi Bob, > > I hope Stu will recover soon. > > About the requirements and arch I-Ds, would it be possible to make the > minimum changes discussed on the list prior to the meeting? We will use > these updated versions as base for CFA. Thank you. > > As discussed in the meeting, we will focus first on the requirements and > architecture I-Ds before we consider additional items. > > Cheers, > Med > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : Tm-rid [mailto:tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Robert > > Moskowitz > > Envoy=C3=A9 : lundi 6 avril 2020 14:36 > > =C3=80 : tm-rid@ietf.org > > Objet : [Tm-rid] DRIP workgroup documents adoption > > > > During the IETF107 virtual meeting, the attendees agreed to adopt > > > > draft-drip-card-arch > > draft-drip-card-req > > > > Stu has just texted me that he has been running a fever since Saturday > > and has other not-good symptoms. I will keep people updated as I hear > > more. Adam and I (and Andrei Gurtov over in Sweden) will have to pick > > up the slack for now. > > > > Meanwhile Adam and I have other important documents that we are > > putting > > forth for consideration for wg adoption. These are: > > > > draft-wiethuechter-drip-auth > > draft-wiethuechter-tmrid-identity-claims > > draft-moskowitz-drip-crowd-sourced-rid > > draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy > > draft-moskowitz-drip-secure-nrid-c2 > > > > > > While Adam and I help Stu move the arch and req drafts forward, please > > review these other drafts so when we have the Interim virtual meeting, > > they can also be included. > > > > Bob > > > > -- > > Tm-rid mailing list > > Tm-rid@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tm-rid > -- > Tm-rid mailing list > Tm-rid@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tm-rid > --0000000000005d0f5c05a2cb0e5b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
much-appreciated colleagues --

I will try to make the changes I pro= mised, based on feedback received prior to and during our meeting.
Howe= ver, due to [short-term] health issues, how much I will get done, how long = before APR 22, is questionable.
I will try to do my part ASAP so = all those who have graciously volunteered can go from there.
Some= of you are aware that the ASTM F38.02 working group that produced F3411-19= meets Thursday.
I have been invited by the work item leader Gabr= iel Cox to present an overview of our DRIP work.
I must present t= o the owner of the facility where we have been flight-testing all this on M= onday.
So those 2 items have taken short-term priority over revis= ing the 2 DRIP drafts.
IETF remains the venue where I expect to m= ake my primary contribution, as well as the community where I feel most at = home.
:-)

-- Stu

On Wed, Apr 8, 202= 0 at 1:27 PM <mohamed.bo= ucadair@orange.com> wrote:
Hi Bob,

I hope Stu will recover soon.

About the requirements and arch I-Ds, would it be possible to make the mini= mum changes discussed on the list prior to the meeting? We will use these u= pdated versions as base for CFA. Thank you.

As discussed in the meeting, we will focus first on the requirements and ar= chitecture I-Ds before we consider additional items.

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De=C2=A0: Tm-rid [mailto:tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de Robert
> Moskowitz
> Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0: lundi 6 avril 2020 14:36
> =C3=80=C2=A0: tm-= rid@ietf.org
> Objet=C2=A0: [Tm-rid] DRIP workgroup documents adoption
>
> During the IETF107 virtual meeting, the attendees agreed to adopt
>
> draft-drip-card-arch
> draft-drip-card-req
>
> Stu has just texted me that he has been running a fever since Saturday=
> and has other not-good symptoms.=C2=A0 I will keep people updated as I= hear
> more.=C2=A0 Adam and I (and Andrei Gurtov over in Sweden) will have to= pick
> up the slack for now.
>
> Meanwhile Adam and I have other important documents that we are
> putting
> forth for consideration for wg adoption.=C2=A0 These are:
>
> draft-wiethuechter-drip-auth
> draft-wiethuechter-tmrid-identity-claims
> draft-moskowitz-drip-crowd-sourced-rid
> draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy
> draft-moskowitz-drip-secure-nrid-c2
>
>
> While Adam and I help Stu move the arch and req drafts forward, please=
> review these other drafts so when we have the Interim virtual meeting,=
> they can also be included.
>
> Bob
>
> --
> Tm-rid mailing list
> Tm-rid@ietf.org
>
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Fri, 10 Apr 2020 09:01:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0a2945d803314dd9b2bc786ed1075044@verisign.com> In-Reply-To: From: "Card, Stu" Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 12:01:33 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Hollenbeck, Scott" Cc: Robert Moskowitz , tm-rid@ietf.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000a6d14905a2f1d9f1" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tm-rid] DRIP, EPP, RDAP, and the DNS X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2020 16:01:50 -0000 --000000000000a6d14905a2f1d9f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" My thoughts on this are not yet fully coherent, but here are some of them... I think of a HHIT as a name, but it is also an ORCHID, thus a valid IPv6 address. So it could be added to the real DNS (with the main root) for reverse lookup in .ip6. It is aggregatable only in its upper 64 bits (RRA, HDA), the lower 64 are a flat address space, so there could be scalability challenges, but only within the scope of a registry (HDA). To short-cut the PTR then HIP RR (or PTR then AAAA RR) lookup sequence latency, we could even register . (or something like that) as a FQDN. As the HHIT is a name needing to be registered, we can use internet domain name protocols (e.g. EPP), services, infrastructure & business models to do registration. For it to be a legal UAS ID in a given Civil Aviation Administration (e.g. US FAA) jurisdiction, the registrar would have to collect whatever information that CAA requires (international harmonization is recognized as an issue by the CAAs). Some registrars would offer (and over time develop reputations regarding) better vetting of this information, thus could be selected by organizations for reference in the trust policies that will be followed by their observers, e.g. : observer receives Broadcast from Alice proving she is in Bob's registry, thus trusts (to some extent) Alice; same observer receives Broadcast certificate from Carol proving she is in Doug's registry, thus does not trust Carol. The use of RDAP/XACML would be on subsequent access controlled lookups of the Whois PII from the HHIT, whereas minimal strictly public info could be in DNS. I say all this from the perspective of someone who has configured DNS servers to do tricks but never worked for a registrar much less a registry operator, thus I need further education. :-) Thanks! On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 09:47 Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Robert Moskowitz > > Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 10:10 AM > > To: Hollenbeck, Scott ; tm-rid@ietf.org > > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Tm-rid] DRIP, EPP, RDAP, and the DNS > > > > > > > > On 4/6/20 9:54 AM, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote: > > > I mentioned this in Jabber during the IETF-107 virtual meeting, but > I'll > > mention it on-list as well: if this group gets around to talking about > how EPP, > > RDAP, and the DNS can be used in a DRIP context, there are people who > > have expertise in those technologies who are following the work here and > > are willing to help. How can we help, and at what point do you think > that help > > will be needed? > > > > > > Scott > > > > So of the DNS pieces I attempt to cover in: > > > > draft-moskowitz-hip-hierarchical-hit > > > > And I would really like input on this, as it also has some impact on how > the > > RAA bits are divvied up. > > Bob, I'd like to check my understanding before making any suggestions. Do > I have this correct? > > The HHIT includes a field (the HID) that's used to identify two > administrative domains, the RAA and the HDA. The RAA is kind of like a DNS > root, except that in this model there can be more than one. The RAA > maintains a DNS zone used to discover HDA rendezvous servers (RVS). > > The HDA is assigned an identifier by an RAA. The HDA sounds a bit like a > TLD registry. It operates rendezvous servers and HIP DNS extension servers. > > Is this all correct? If so, is the thought that EPP could be used to > register an HDA within an RAA and HIP DNS extension information with an HDA? > > Scott > -- > Tm-rid mailing list > Tm-rid@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tm-rid > --000000000000a6d14905a2f1d9f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My thoughts on this are not yet fully coherent, but = here are some of them...

I thi= nk of a HHIT as a name, but it is also an ORCHID, thus a valid IPv6 address= . So it could be added to the real DNS (with the main root) for reverse loo= kup in <nibble-reversed>.ip6. It is aggregatable only in its upper 64= bits (RRA, HDA), the lower 64 are a flat address space, so there could be = scalability challenges, but only within the scope of a registry (HDA). To s= hort-cut the PTR then HIP RR (or PTR then AAAA RR) lookup sequence latency,= we could even register <low64>.<hda-domain-name> (or something= like that) as a FQDN.

As the HHIT is a na= me needing to be registered, we can use internet domain name protocols (e.g= . EPP), services, infrastructure & business models to do registration. = For it to be a legal UAS ID in a given Civil Aviation Administration (e.g. = US FAA) jurisdiction, the registrar would have to collect whatever informat= ion that CAA requires (international harmonization is recognized as an issu= e by the CAAs). Some registrars would offer (and over time develop reputati= ons regarding) better vetting of this information, thus could be selected b= y organizations for reference in the trust policies that will be followed b= y their observers, e.g. : observer receives Broadcast from Alice proving sh= e is in Bob's registry, thus trusts (to some extent) Alice; same observ= er receives Broadcast certificate from Carol proving she is in Doug's r= egistry, thus does not trust Carol.

The use of RDAP/XACML would be on subsequent access controlled = lookups of the Whois PII from the HHIT, whereas minimal strictly public inf= o could be in DNS.

I say= all this from the perspective of someone who has configured DNS servers to= do tricks but never worked for a registrar much less a registry operator, = thus I need further education. :-)

Thanks!

On Fri, Apr 10, 2020, 09:47 Hollenbeck, Scott= <shollenbeck=3D40veris= ign.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
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> To: Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck@verisign.com>; tm-rid@= ietf.org
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Tm-rid] DRIP, EPP, RDAP, and the DNS
>
>
>
> On 4/6/20 9:54 AM, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote:
> > I mentioned this in Jabber during the IETF-107 virtual meeting, b= ut I'll
> mention it on-list as well: if this group gets around to talking about= how EPP,
> RDAP, and the DNS can be used in a DRIP context, there are people who<= br> > have expertise in those technologies who are following the work here a= nd
> are willing to help. How can we help, and at what point do you think t= hat help
> will be needed?
> >
> > Scott
>
> So of the DNS pieces I attempt to cover in:
>
> draft-moskowitz-hip-hierarchical-hit
>
> And I would really like input on this, as it also has some impact on h= ow the
> RAA bits are divvied up.

Bob, I'd like to check my understanding before making any suggestions. = Do I have this correct?

The HHIT includes a field (the HID) that's used to identify two adminis= trative domains, the RAA and the HDA. The RAA is kind of like a DNS root, e= xcept that in this model there can be more than one. The RAA maintains a DN= S zone used to discover HDA rendezvous servers (RVS).

The HDA is assigned an identifier by an RAA. The HDA sounds a bit like a TL= D registry. It operates rendezvous servers and HIP DNS extension servers.
Is this all correct? If so, is the thought that EPP could be used to regist= er an HDA within an RAA and HIP DNS extension information with an HDA?

Scott
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We are setting the agenda, and setting a call for agenda items. If you are willing to present, please let us know and fill the draft agenda [2] by Friday April 17. In order to make the interim efficient, we are asking presenters to publish the draft they are discussion on Sunday April 19, so people can discuss and provide feedback on the latest version. Presentations need to be uploaded for April 20 at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-drip-01/session/28034/slides As always, we are looking for volunteers for jabber scribes and minute taker, so please raise your hand!!!!! Your co-chairs, Med and Daniel [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-01 [2] https://docs.google.com/document/d/1D8Xz3p_4HDkw-UW39hlalGGLwNE-NPU8dcHE1UKrmhk/edit?usp=sharing ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: IETF Meeting Session Request Tool Date: Sun, Apr 5, 2020 at 9:44 PM Subject: drip - New Interim Meeting Request To: Cc: , , , < drip-chairs@ietf.org> A new interim meeting series request has just been submitted by Daniel Migault. This request requires approval by the Area Director of the Internet Area The meetings can be approved here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-01 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-02 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-03 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-04 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-05 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-06 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-07 https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-08 Meeting: 1 --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Drone Remote ID Protocol Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Daniel Migault Meeting Type: Virtual Meeting Session 1: Date: 2020-04-22 Start Time: 11:00 America/New_York Duration: 00:00 Remote Participation Information: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754 Agenda Note: --------------------------------------------------------- Meeting: 2 --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Drone Remote ID Protocol Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Daniel Migault Meeting Type: Virtual Meeting Session 1: Date: 2020-05-27 Start Time: 11:00 America/New_York Duration: 00:00 Remote Participation Information: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754 Agenda Note: --------------------------------------------------------- Meeting: 3 --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Drone Remote ID Protocol Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Daniel Migault Meeting Type: Virtual Meeting Session 1: Date: 2020-06-24 Start Time: 11:00 America/New_York Duration: 00:00 Remote Participation Information: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754 Agenda Note: --------------------------------------------------------- Meeting: 4 --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Drone Remote ID Protocol Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Daniel Migault Meeting Type: Virtual Meeting Session 1: Date: 2020-07-22 Start Time: 11:00 America/New_York Duration: 00:00 Remote Participation Information: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754 Agenda Note: --------------------------------------------------------- Meeting: 5 --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Drone Remote ID Protocol Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Daniel Migault Meeting Type: Virtual Meeting Session 1: Date: 2020-08-26 Start Time: 11:00 America/New_York Duration: 00:00 Remote Participation Information: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754 Agenda Note: --------------------------------------------------------- Meeting: 6 --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Drone Remote ID Protocol Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Daniel Migault Meeting Type: Virtual Meeting Session 1: Date: 2020-09-23 Start Time: 11:00 America/New_York Duration: 00:00 Remote Participation Information: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754 Agenda Note: --------------------------------------------------------- Meeting: 7 --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Drone Remote ID Protocol Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Daniel Migault Meeting Type: Virtual Meeting Session 1: Date: 2020-10-28 Start Time: 11:00 America/New_York Duration: 00:00 Remote Participation Information: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754 Agenda Note: --------------------------------------------------------- Meeting: 8 --------------------------------------------------------- Working Group Name: Drone Remote ID Protocol Area Name: Internet Area Session Requester: Daniel Migault Meeting Type: Virtual Meeting Session 1: Date: 2020-10-28 Start Time: 11:00 America/New_York Duration: 00:00 Remote Participation Information: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=m55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754 Agenda Note: --------------------------------------------------------- -- Daniel Migault Ericsson -- Daniel Migault Ericsson --000000000000384be305a34201c2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=C2=A0

<= div>This is a reminder of the upcoming DRIP interi= m meeting on Wednesday=C2=A02020-04-22 11:00-= 12:00 (America/New_York) [1].
We are setting the agenda, and setting a call for agenda items. If = you are willing to present, please let us know and fill the draft agenda [2= ] by Friday April 17.

In order to make the interim efficient, we are asking pr= esenters to publish the draft they are discussion on Sunday April 19, so pe= ople can discuss and provide feedback on the latest version. Presentations = need to be uploaded for April 20 at:
A= s always, we are looking for volunteers for jabber scribes and minute taker= , so please raise your hand!!!!!

Your co-chairs,
Med and Daniel
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A new interim meeting series request has just been submitted by Daniel Miga= ult.

This request requires approval by the Area Director of the Internet Area
The meetings can be approved here:
https://datatracker.ietf.or= g/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-01
https://datatracker.ietf.or= g/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-02
https://datatracker.ietf.or= g/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-03
https://datatracker.ietf.or= g/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-04
https://datatracker.ietf.or= g/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-05
https://datatracker.ietf.or= g/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-06
https://datatracker.ietf.or= g/meeting/interim/request/interim-2020-drip-07
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We are planning to upload them in the next coming days, so if you have any concerns please let us know. Yours, your co-chairs Med and Daniel [1] https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-107-drip?useMonospaceFont=3Dtrue https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-107-drip?useMonospaceFont=3Dtrue On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 7:05 PM Daniel Migault wrote: > Hi, > > This is a reminder of the DRIP meeting > happening Wed > 2020-03-25 20:00-21:30 . > > Please connect the the Webex Session > > in advance to test mics/headsets and register the BlueSheet in the > Etherpad > > . > > Note that the chat room will be used to manage the queue. Conversations > are performed in the jabber room (drip@jabber.ietf.org) > > We are still looking for a minute taker and a jabber scribe. > > All links are available on the Agenda web page. Here is a small recap! > > See you tomorrow! > > Yours, > Your co-chairs > > Webex > > : > https://ietf.webex.com/webappng/sites/ietf/meeting/download/cf32b951e2534= d33a6c4b79258f27b4a?siteurl=3Dietf&MTID=3Dm8e996ebfa2a41c4960eda90c6915cd10 > Agenda : > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/agenda > Etherpad > : > https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/notes-ietf-107-drip?useMonospaceFont=3Dt= rue > > > Drone Remote ID Protocol (drip) WG Agenda > > Wed 2020-03-25 20:00-21:30 > > Co-Chairs: Daniel Migault & Mohamed Boucadair > > 1. Note well, logistics and introduction (chairs, 5 min) > > > (1) Chairs slides 15 min > Minute taker, jabber, agenda bashing > (2) DRIP Requirements 30 min > 2.1 draft-card-drip-reqs [Stuart] 20 min > 2.2 Discussion [ALL] 10 min > (3) DRIP Reference Architecture 30 min > 3.1 draft-card-drip-arch [Stuart] 20 min > 3.2 Discusion [ALL] 10 min > (4) WG Planning & Closing 15 min > > =3D=3D=3DIf time permits > > (5) Protocol Documents > 5.1 DRIP Authentication Formats & Identity Claims [Adam] > draft-wiethuechter-drip-auth & > draft-wiethuechter-drip-identity-claims > > 5.2 CS-RID & HIP Updates [Robert] > draft-moskowitz-tmrid-crowd-sourced-rid > > > > On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:36 PM shuaiizhao(Shuai Zhao) < > shuaiizhao@tencent.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Med and all, look forward to our meetings =E2=98=BA >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> Shuai Zhao >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *Tm-rid on behalf of " >> mohamed.boucadair@orange.com" >> *Date: *Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 10:28 >> *To: *"shuaiizhao(Shuai Zhao)" , "tm-rid@ietf.or= g" >> >> *Subject: *Re: [Tm-rid] Virtual IETF 107 Meeting WebEx Invitation: >> DRIP(Internet mail) >> >> >> >> Hi Shuai, all, >> >> >> >> The proposed agenda is available at: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/materials/agenda-107-drip-01 >> >> >> >> Slides will be uploaded as soon as we receive them. The slides can be >> found at : https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/session/drip >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Med >> >> >> >> *De :* Tm-rid [mailto:tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org] *De la part de* >> shuaiizhao(Shuai Zhao) >> *Envoy=C3=A9 :* lundi 23 mars 2020 02:23 >> *=C3=80 :* tm-rid@ietf.org >> *Cc :* shuaiizhao(Shuai Zhao) >> *Objet :* Re: [Tm-rid] Virtual IETF 107 Meeting WebEx Invitation: >> DRIP(Internet mail) >> >> >> >> Just curious if DRIP will upload the agenda materials in the agenda >> website. >> >> I am sure this is not a big deal. Ignore my message if this is already i= n >> the process =E2=98=BA >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> Shuai Zhao >> >> >> >> >> >> *From: *Tm-rid on behalf of IETF Agenda < >> agenda@ietf.org> >> *Date: *Friday, March 20, 2020 at 10:25 >> *To: *"tm-rid@ietf.org" >> *Subject: *[Tm-rid] Virtual IETF 107 Meeting WebEx Invitation: >> DRIP(Internet mail) >> >> >> >> DRIP Session at IETF 107 >> >> >> >> Wednesday, March 25, 2020 >> >> 20:00-21:30 UTC >> >> >> >> Join meeting: < >> https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm8e996ebfa2a41c4960eda90c6915cd= 10> >> >> >> >> Meeting number (access code): 316 914 084 >> >> Meeting password: q653FxBvYBE >> >> >> >> IETF 107 Agenda: >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Tm-rid mailing list >> >> Tm-rid@ietf.org >> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tm-rid >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Tm-rid mailing list >> Tm-rid@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tm-rid >> > > > -- > Daniel Migault > Ericsson > --=20 Daniel Migault Ericsson --000000000000be398e05a3420fde Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=C2=A0

We would like to thank Michae= l for taking the minutes during the IETF 107 meeting [1]. We are planning t= o upload them in the next coming days, so if you have any concerns please l= et us know.

Yours,=C2=A0
your co-chairs= =C2=A0

Med and Daniel


On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at = 7:05 PM Daniel Migault <mglt.ietf= @gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

This is a reminder= of the DRIP meeting happening=C2=A0=20 Wed =C2=A0 2020-03-25 20:00-21:30 .=C2=A0

Please connect the the Webex Session in advance to test mics/headse= ts and register the BlueSheet in the Etherp= ad.

Note that the chat room will be used to manage the queue. Co= nversations are performed in the jabber room (drip@jabber.ietf.org)

We are still= looking for a minute taker and a jabber scribe.

All links are avai= lable on the Agenda web page. Here is a small recap!

See you tomorro= w!

Yours,
Your co-chairs

Webex:https://ietf.webex.com/webappng= /sites/ietf/meeting/download/cf32b951e2534d33a6c4b79258f27b4a?siteurl=3Diet= f&MTID=3Dm8e996ebfa2a41c4960eda90c6915cd10
Agenda: htt= ps://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/agenda
Etherpad: https://etherpad.= ietf.org:9009/p/notes-ietf-107-drip?useMonospaceFont=3Dtrue


= =C2=A0 =C2=A0Drone Remote ID Protocol (drip) WG Agenda

Wed =C2=A0 20= 20-03-25 20:00-21:30
=C2=A0
Co-Chairs: Daniel Migault & Mohamed B= oucadair

1. Note well, logistics and introduction (chairs, 5 min)

(1) Chairs slides =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 15 min
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Minute taker, jabber, agenda bashi= ng
(2) DRIP Requirements 30 min
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02.1 draft-ca= rd-drip-reqs =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[Stuart] =C2=A020 min
=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A02.2 Discussion =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[ALL] =C2=A0 =C2=A0 10 min
(3) DRIP Reference= Architecture =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 30 min
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A03.1 draft-card-drip-= arch =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0[Stuart] =C2=A020 min
=C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A03.2 Discusion =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 [ALL] =C2=A0 =C2=A0 10 min =C2=A0
(4) WG Planning = & Closing =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 15 min

=3D=3D=3DIf tim= e permits

(5) Protocol Documents =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A05.1 DRIP Authentication Formats & Identity = Claims =C2=A0[Adam] =C2=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0dra= ft-wiethuechter-drip-auth &
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0draft= -wiethuechter-drip-identity-claims
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2= =A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A05.2 CS-RID & HI= P Updates =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 [Robert] =C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 = =C2=A0draft-moskowitz-tmrid-crowd-sourced-rid

=

On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 1:36 PM shuaiizhao(Shuai Zhao) <shuaiizhao@tencent.com&= gt; wrote:

= Thanks Med and all, look forward to our meetings =E2=98=BA

=C2=A0

Best,=

Shuai=C2=A0Zhao=

= =C2=A0

= =C2=A0

=C2=A0

Hi Shuai, all,

=C2=A0

The proposed agenda is ava= ilable at: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/materials= /agenda-107-drip-01

=C2=A0

Slides will be uploaded as= soon as we receive them. The slides can be found at : https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/107/session/drip

=C2=A0

Cheers,

Med

=C2=A0

De=C2=A0: Tm-r= id [mailto:tm-= rid-bounces@ietf.org] De la part de shuaiizhao(Shuai Zhao)
Envoy=C3=A9=C2=A0: lundi 23 mars 2020 02:23
=C3=80=C2=A0: t= m-rid@ietf.org
Cc=C2=A0: shuaiizhao(Shuai Zhao)
Objet=C2=A0: Re: [Tm-rid] Virtual IETF 107 Meeting WebEx Invitation:= DRIP(Internet mail)

=C2=A0

Just curious if DRIP will upload the agenda mat= erials in the agenda website.

I am sure this is not a big deal. Ignore my mes= sage if this is already in the process =E2=98=BA

=C2=A0

Best,

Shuai=C2=A0Zhao

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: Tm-rid <tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org<= /a>> on behalf of IETF Agenda <agenda@ietf.org>
Date: Friday, March 20, 2020 at 10:25
To: "tm-ri= d@ietf.org" <tm-rid@ietf.org>
Subject: [Tm-rid] Virtual IETF 107 Meeting WebEx Invitation: DRIP(In= ternet mail)

=C2=A0

DRIP Session at IETF 107

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Wednesday, March 25, 2020<= u>

20:00-21:30 UTC<= /u>

=C2=A0

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Meeting number (access cod= e): 316 914 084

Meeting password: q653FxBv= YBE

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Card" To: "tm-rid@ietf.org" Message-ID: Subject: IETF DRIP WG interim meeting this Wednesday & new version of draft-card-drip-reqs-02.txt References: <158740257305.30893.10318828721636114919@ietfa.amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <158740257305.30893.10318828721636114919@ietfa.amsl.com> --Tuidmu6ZYAnmyIl6N2KARTgIaGfpFaWOX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable all -- I am not sure who is [not [yet]] on the TM-RID mailing list (for what is now the DRIP Working Group), so bcc'ed a bunch of you (who had provided feedback or expressed interest, but probably don't want to be SPAMmed). I have attempted to address each point that any of you had raised, whether in the week prior to our first DRIP WG meeting (and that I might not have addressed in this draft before the meeting), during that meeting, or since (up through this morning), at least if I thought I understood your point (and otherwise I requested clarification). Although this draft will still need further work, perhaps it is in good enough shape for group work to begin (both on the requirements draft, and on architecture and solutions addressing these requirements), so let's consider adopting it in this Wednesday's DRIP WG interim meeting. Next I will turn my attention to the architecture draft, which is also nominally still an individual contribution, but on which I am actually getting help from several of you already. Please review the requirements and as many of the other drafts as you can, and join the interim meeting this Wednesday, thanks! https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-interim-2020-drip-01-sessa/ -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-card-drip-reqs-02.txt Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 10:09:33 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Adam Wiethuechter , Stuart Card , Robert Moskowitz , Stuart W. Card A new version of I-D, draft-card-drip-reqs-02.txt has been successfully submitted by Stuart W. Card and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-card-drip-reqs Revision: 02 Title: Drone Remote Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements Document date: 2020-04-20 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 18 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-card-drip-reqs-02.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-card-drip-reqs/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-reqs-02 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-card-drip-req= s Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-card-drip-reqs-= 02 Abstract: This document defines the requirements for Drone Remote Identification Protocol (DRIP) Working Group protocols and services to support Unmanned Aircraft System Remote Identification (UAS RID). Objectives include: complementing external technical standards as regulator-accepted means of compliance with UAS RID regulations; facilitating use of existing Internet resources to support UAS RID and to enable enhanced related services; and enabling verification that UAS RID information is trustworthy (to some extent, even in the absence of Internet connectivity at the receiving node). Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submiss= ion until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat --Tuidmu6ZYAnmyIl6N2KARTgIaGfpFaWOX-- --SiQ2mQmbC5Xdm8v3stnlD4ZvMG7mbBesG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iF0EARECAB0WIQQ2yqnxPsR1UzEXPipLs9DRrbB4vgUCXp3lZQAKCRBLs9DRrbB4 vvPjAKCmuiYor/aUzD8nRfpnZCLTeNlvfwCdHTy02ynKszUFHaXHvtnp8EGvXHk= =SQku -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SiQ2mQmbC5Xdm8v3stnlD4ZvMG7mbBesG-- From nobody Mon Apr 20 11:27:19 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tm-rid@ietf.org Delivered-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from ietfa.amsl.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E8B3A0BE6; Mon, 20 Apr 2020 11:27:17 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: IETF Secretariat To: , , X-Test-IDTracker: no X-IETF-IDTracker: 6.127.0 Auto-Submitted: auto-generated Precedence: bulk Message-ID: <158740723641.19894.16183085343197507208@ietfa.amsl.com> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 11:27:16 -0700 Archived-At: Subject: [Tm-rid] The DRIP WG has placed draft-card-drip-reqs in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued" X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2020 18:27:17 -0000 The DRIP WG has placed draft-card-drip-reqs in state Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Mohamed Boucadair) The document is available at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-card-drip-reqs/ Comment: WG members, This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements" available at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-reqs-02. This document targets one of the WG milestones. Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to contribute. If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why. The call ends up on Monday, May 04, 2020. 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Issued" X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 08:54:58 -0000 I've reviewed the draft and support its adoption by the WG. I also plan to contribute to future revisions. BR Andrei Gurtov LiU/LFV On 4/20/2020 8:27 PM, IETF Secretariat wrote: > The DRIP WG has placed draft-card-drip-reqs in state > Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Mohamed Boucadair) > > The document is available at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-card-drip-reqs/ > > Comment: > WG members, > > This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote > Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements" available at > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-reqs-02. This document targets > one of the WG milestones. > > Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, > please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to contribute. > > If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why. > > The call ends up on Monday, May 04, 2020. > > Thank you, > Daniel & Med > From nobody Tue Apr 21 08:34:32 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BAE63A0E9F; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 08:34:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=orange.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id laUMBBgzrR7w; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 08:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relais-inet.orange.com (relais-inet.orange.com [80.12.70.36]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8CD63A0D97; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 08:26:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opfednr02.francetelecom.fr (unknown [xx.xx.xx.66]) by opfednr27.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 4966q240B0z4wFK; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 17:26:22 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=orange.com; s=ORANGE001; t=1587482782; bh=aQN3biMXV4VvwgmngnFF07n2VBRjBCCb8wM1W0ixwbM=; h=From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; b=hTcrNr08oZrCw4RqMZAOINas6wtZjy6UHZLV9CKYLJr5kt1mBTozcmMcVecmm7u4c nnf6NwdDHw7khlWEzbt9qGgkWb7FJULmv/wektyWjqn2yft2wW0yQRujy4moYMF4ov LYVQ41LKJz6MEBkc492BAVOFNTVjppGSKPDPmGlcbsmMi2j0YaTyjYw9mOib5+Ravy mFqzI6iDbXdDww2ZjkTIT9hcRPM52/2aPM4IDTUawnKGuGJ7kHx7c+Dcg7QXhuB0i4 OdvxJ4erGqUn1YOFV4PnivrwKvb1Bs6oN6804MUHxw8gRTYd+KgOQmw7ioFkLCkbWW 6iYl7rTF+uixA== Received: from Exchangemail-eme6.itn.ftgroup (unknown [xx.xx.13.107]) by opfednr02.francetelecom.fr (ESMTP service) with ESMTP id 4966q23GLnz8sY7; Tue, 21 Apr 2020 17:26:22 +0200 (CEST) From: To: "tm-rid@ietf.org" CC: "drip-chairs@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: Virtual Interim Meeting (22/04/2020): Agenda & Logistics Thread-Index: AdYX8TTSUyQITKOgToyz4M/wIojhBA== Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 15:26:21 +0000 Message-ID: <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B93303149B750@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Accept-Language: fr-FR, en-US Content-Language: fr-FR X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.114.13.245] Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B93303149B750OPEXCAUBMA2corp_" MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Subject: [Tm-rid] Virtual Interim Meeting (22/04/2020): Agenda & Logistics X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 15:34:31 -0000 --_000_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B93303149B750OPEXCAUBMA2corp_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Please find below some information about tomorrow's interim meeting (15:00 = to 16:00 UTC). *** Logistics - ICal: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-drip-01/session/2= 8034.ics - Webex: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm55592b255b3106bfd11854d9= be550754 - Etherpad: https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-interim-2020-drip-01?use= MonospaceFont=3Dtrue - Slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-drip-01/session= /drip **** Agenda 1. Note well, logistics and introduction [Chairs] 5 min 2. Requirements Discussion [Stuart] 30 min - draft-card-drip-reqs 15 min - Discussion 15 min 3. Architecture Discussion [Stuart] 15 min - draft-card-drip-arch 5 min - Discussion 10 min 4. Open Mic 5 min 5. Closing [Chairs] 5 min **** We will use Etherpad for both taking minutes and for the virtual blue sheet= s. Please send us a note if you volunteer to take minutes. Thank you. Cheers, Daniel & Med --_000_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B93303149B750OPEXCAUBMA2corp_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi all,

 

Please find below some information about tomorrow’s= interim meeting (15:00 to 16:00 UTC).

 

*** Logistics

 

- ICal: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-drip-01/session/28034.ics=

- Webex: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754<= /a>

- Etherpad: https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-interim-2020-drip-01?useMonospaceFon= t=3Dtrue  

- Slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-drip-01/session/drip =

 

**** Agenda  

 

1. Note well, logistics and introduction  [Chairs]&n= bsp;      5 min

 

2. Requirements Discussion       = ;         [Stuart]  =     30 min

    - draft-card-drip-reqs   &nb= sp;           15 min=

    - Discussion    &n= bsp;            = ;        15 min

 

3. Architecture Discussion     &= nbsp;          [Stuart] &= nbsp;    15 min

    - draft-card-drip-arch  &nbs= p;             = 5 min

    - Discussion  =             &nb= sp;          10 min=

 

4. Open Mic     &nbs= p;             =             &nb= sp;            =   5 min

 

5. Closing        = ;            &n= bsp;          [Chairs] &n= bsp;      5 min

 

****

 

We will use Etherpad for both taking minutes and for the = virtual blue sheets.

 

Please send us a note if you volunteer to take minutes. T= hank you.

 

Cheers,

Daniel & Med

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These have been uploaded. If you would like to update them please update the etherpad [1] and let us know, so the most up-to-date version can be uploaded. [1] https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/notes-ietf-interim-2020-drip-01?useMonospa= ceFont=3Dtrue Yours, Med and Daniel On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:46 AM wrote: > Hi all, > > > > Please find below some information about tomorrow=E2=80=99s interim meeti= ng (15:00 > to 16:00 UTC). > > > > *** Logistics > > > > - ICal: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-drip-01/session/28034.i= cs > > - Webex: > https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be55075= 4 > > - Etherpad: > https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-interim-2020-drip-01?useMonospaceF= ont=3Dtrue > > > - Slides: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-drip-01/session/drip > > > > **** Agenda > > > > 1. Note well, logistics and introduction [Chairs] 5 min > > > > 2. Requirements Discussion [Stuart] 30 min > > - draft-card-drip-reqs 15 min > > - Discussion 15 min > > > > 3. Architecture Discussion [Stuart] 15 min > > - draft-card-drip-arch 5 min > > - Discussion 10 min > > > > 4. Open Mic 5 min > > > > 5. Closing [Chairs] 5 min > > > > **** > > > > We will use Etherpad for both taking minutes and for the virtual blue > sheets. > > > > Please send us a note if you volunteer to take minutes. Thank you. > > > > Cheers, > > Daniel & Med > --=20 Daniel Migault Ericsson --00000000000085eb4f05a3e37c26 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=C2=A0
Thank you Stu for taking the minutes.=C2=A0 = These have been uploaded. If you would like to update them please update th= e etherpad [1] and let us know, so the most up-to-date version can be uploa= ded.=C2=A0=C2=A0


Yours,=C2=A0
Med and Da= niel

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:46 AM <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:

Hi all,

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Please find below some information about tomorrow=E2=80=99s interim m= eeting (15:00 to 16:00 UTC).

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*** Logistics

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- ICal: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-drip-01/session/28034.ics=

- Webex: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754<= /a>

- Etherpad: https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-interim-2020-drip-01?useMonospaceFon= t=3Dtrue =C2=A0

- Slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-drip-01/session/drip =

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**** Agenda =C2=A0

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1. Note well, logistics and introduction=C2=A0 [Chairs]=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 5 min

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2. Requirements Discussion =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0[Stuart]=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 30 min

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - draft-card-drip-reqs=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A015 min

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Discussion=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 15 min

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=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - draft-card-drip-arch=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 5 min

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Discussion=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 10 min

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4. Open Mic=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A05 min

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5. Closing=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [Chairs]=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 5 min

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****

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We will use Etherpad for both taking minutes and for the virtual blue= sheets.

=C2=A0

Please send us a note if you volunteer to take minutes. Thank you.=

=C2=A0

Cheers,

Daniel & Med



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--00000000000085eb4f05a3e37c26-- From nobody Wed Apr 22 09:30:32 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FEF3A0FBD for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 09:30:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, WEIRD_PORT=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=axenterprize.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IKQWD0reeLYK for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 09:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ed1-x536.google.com (mail-ed1-x536.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::536]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C003E3A0FB3 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 09:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ed1-x536.google.com with SMTP id r16so1981905edw.5 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 09:30:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=axenterprize.com; s=google; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=kbhH6LBc+G7jlllLeTyjQK0aJYYaFZz2N0FESrazKkU=; b=lhFOU4BT1+awJSAyJ1R/48T/wQaUNSYDVjod1c6PD7U4oUB/YUFfsZRIHwUHo/n2/V JJoLgoHgmsFxSxhrxikmRqwZLR5TyfHBa9D9K54j55HymhXGRclCJVL7+ekN1tw/yVuT nxj98Gn1vNkhT2DcKppnZqx91XaQz8rOQpw0c= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=kbhH6LBc+G7jlllLeTyjQK0aJYYaFZz2N0FESrazKkU=; b=SRteCKMCrSziaq13q1jsA4/4UvKwOm2U00GUwsP6tBbgzqjpICEGhSyK4YJwhyQKOy yCot6MU/K60fQ/6Qv9VBaGPwbuqx/vU99ZTGwe+3WHP6Dz+CYF26sa5/pETidKU2MNfJ 6MNnQmKfwbgpIfiEGG6qnRyKunu5Txf+GtXtbfqG2POn7LKfEgt+rk88+5rVwQ6AG4Sg amhBNUxPNH3I7/VLJOvwPpPMC88ZNMRmrvQURPv1aNHfeWmQLavLANlNK52vIqsDeUeZ MdjdmqZhC0DtLbbojPBDuPNgvzNtKywe9098d6P81LzkHO4ldRELBP+gK/kU2s/1lGDc rPKQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuaORqWzhmenin5ysqiCaZvZk/xkGxLahRNcpq+DEZr+m+KtFDlS df31U4ofSnInkp8033PeKEMISs8SvBLUdmw6KVbb1w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypIiXvNg0MqTEA6ayLRsr3c65F9eDuCdupUvC4RMTQNxNF5xzMLJkW4Fi0HtZiI1AFaKw1Knv5+U53nOCTwIpTA= X-Received: by 2002:a50:ef09:: with SMTP id m9mr15254820eds.321.1587573026056; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 09:30:26 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B93303149B750@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> In-Reply-To: From: "Card, Stu" Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 12:30:13 -0400 Message-ID: To: drip-chairs@ietf.org Cc: "tm-rid@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004615ca05a3e3a692" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tm-rid] Virtual Interim Meeting (22/04/2020): Agenda & Logistics X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 16:30:30 -0000 --0000000000004615ca05a3e3a692 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Actually Adam took minutes while I yammered. :-) He is proofreading them today, w/help from the audio recording if there is one & he can find it? Meanwhile I will start tagging requirements w/sources & ask ASTM F38.02 UAS RID chair about liaison. Thanks all very much! Now we need reviewers & co-authors, esp. from outside USA & familiar w/UAS world. On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 12:18 PM Daniel Migault wrote= : > Hi, > Thank you Stu for taking the minutes. These have been uploaded. If you > would like to update them please update the etherpad [1] and let us know, > so the most up-to-date version can be uploaded. > > [1] > https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/notes-ietf-interim-2020-drip-01?useMonos= paceFont=3Dtrue > > Yours, > Med and Daniel > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:46 AM wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> Please find below some information about tomorrow=E2=80=99s interim meet= ing >> (15:00 to 16:00 UTC). >> >> >> >> *** Logistics >> >> >> >> - ICal: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-drip-01/session/28034.= ics >> >> - Webex: >> https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be5507= 54 >> >> - Etherpad: >> https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-interim-2020-drip-01?useMonospace= Font=3Dtrue >> >> >> - Slides: >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-drip-01/session/drip >> >> >> >> **** Agenda >> >> >> >> 1. Note well, logistics and introduction [Chairs] 5 min >> >> >> >> 2. Requirements Discussion [Stuart] 30 min >> >> - draft-card-drip-reqs 15 min >> >> - Discussion 15 min >> >> >> >> 3. Architecture Discussion [Stuart] 15 min >> >> - draft-card-drip-arch 5 min >> >> - Discussion 10 min >> >> >> >> 4. Open Mic 5 min >> >> >> >> 5. Closing [Chairs] 5 min >> >> >> >> **** >> >> >> >> We will use Etherpad for both taking minutes and for the virtual blue >> sheets. >> >> >> >> Please send us a note if you volunteer to take minutes. Thank you. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Daniel & Med >> > > > -- > Daniel Migault > Ericsson > -- > Tm-rid mailing list > Tm-rid@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tm-rid > --0000000000004615ca05a3e3a692 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Actually Adam took minutes while I yammered. :-)
He is= proofreading them today, w/help from the audio recording if there is one &= amp; he can find it?
Meanwhile I will=20 start tagging requirements w/sources & ask ASTM F38.02 UAS RID chair ab= out liaison.
Thanks all very much!
Now we need reviewer= s & co-authors, esp. from outside USA & familiar w/UAS world.


On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 12:18 PM Daniel Migault <mglt.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,= =C2=A0
Thank you Stu for taking the minutes.=C2=A0 These have been uplo= aded. If you would like to update them please update the etherpad [1] and l= et us know, so the most up-to-date version can be uploaded.=C2=A0=C2=A0


Yours,=C2=A0
Med and Dani= el

On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:46 AM <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wr= ote:

Hi all,

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Please find below some information about tomorrow=E2=80=99s interim m= eeting (15:00 to 16:00 UTC).

=C2=A0

*** Logistics

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- ICal: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-drip-01/session/28034.ics=

- Webex: https://ietf.webex.com/ietf/j.php?MTID=3Dm55592b255b3106bfd11854d9be550754<= /a>

- Etherpad: https://etherpad.ietf.org/p/notes-ietf-interim-2020-drip-01?useMonospaceFon= t=3Dtrue =C2=A0

- Slides: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-drip-01/session/drip =

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**** Agenda =C2=A0

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1. Note well, logistics and introduction=C2=A0 [Chairs]=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 5 min

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2. Requirements Discussion =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0[Stuart]=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 30 min

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - draft-card-drip-reqs=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A015 min

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Discussion=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 15 min

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3. Architecture Discussion=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [Stuart]=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0 15 min

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - draft-card-drip-arch=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 5 min

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Discussion=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 10 min

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4. Open Mic=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A05 min

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5. Closing=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 [Chairs]=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 5 min

=C2=A0

****

=C2=A0

We will use Etherpad for both taking minutes and for the virtual blue= sheets.

=C2=A0

Please send us a note if you volunteer to take minutes. Thank you.=

=C2=A0

Cheers,

Daniel & Med



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Yours, Daniel On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 4:55 AM Andrei Gurtov wrote: > I've reviewed the draft and support its adoption by the WG. > > I also plan to contribute to future revisions. > > BR Andrei Gurtov > > LiU/LFV > > On 4/20/2020 8:27 PM, IETF Secretariat wrote: > > The DRIP WG has placed draft-card-drip-reqs in state > > Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Mohamed Boucadair) > > > > The document is available at > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-card-drip-reqs/ > > > > Comment: > > WG members, > > > > This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote > > Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements" available at > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-reqs-02. This document > targets > > one of the WG milestones. > > > > Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, > > please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to > contribute. > > > > If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why. > > > > The call ends up on Monday, May 04, 2020. > > > > Thank you, > > Daniel & Med > > > -- Daniel Migault Ericsson --0000000000003c871705a3e3a7df Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I support the adoption of the document as I believe it hel= ps the WG to progress.
Yours,=C2=A0
Daniel

On Tue, Apr 2= 1, 2020 at 4:55 AM Andrei Gurtov <andrei.gurtov@liu.se> wrote:
I've reviewed the draft and support its adoption = by the WG.

I also plan to contribute to future revisions.

BR Andrei Gurtov

LiU/LFV

On 4/20/2020 8:27 PM, IETF Secretariat wrote:
> The DRIP WG has placed draft-card-drip-reqs in state
> Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Mohamed Boucadair)
>
> The document is available at
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ca= rd-drip-reqs/
>
> Comment:
> WG members,
>
> This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remot= e
> Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements" available at
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-= reqs-02. This document targets
> one of the WG milestones.
>
> Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If s= o,
> please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to= contribute.
>
> If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why.
>
> The call ends up on Monday, May 04, 2020.
>
> Thank you,
> Daniel & Med
>


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Daniel Migault
Ericsson
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Therefore, it is tailored to specific needs and data formats of this standard. Other organization, for example in EU, do not necessary follow the same architecture. IETF traditionally operates assuming the source material for the standardization process is publicly available. However, ASTM standards require a fee for download. Therefore a double-liaison program at IETF might need to be activated, providing free access to ASTM specifications for contributors to IETF documents. The need for drone ID and operator privacy is an open discussion topic. For instance, in vehicular domain each car carries a publicly visible plate number. In some countries, for nominal cost or even for free, anyone can resolve the identity and contact information of the owner. Civil commercial aviation and maritime industry  also has a tradition of broadcasting plane or ship ID, coordinates and even flight plans in plain text. Community networks such as OpenSky and Flightradar use this open information through ADS-B to deploy public services of flight tracking. Many researchers also use these data to perform optimization of routes and airport operations. Such ID information should be integrity protected, but not necessarily confidential. In civil aviation, aircraft identity is broadcasted by a device known as transponder. It is transmitting a four-digit squawk code, which is assigned by a traffic controller to and airplane after approving a flight plan. There are several reserved codes such as 7600 which indicate radio communication failure. The codes a unique in certain traffic area and can be re-assigned when entering another control area. The code is transmitted in plain text by transponder and also used for collision avoidance by a system known as TCAM. The system could be used for UAVs as well initially, but the code space is quite limited and likely to be exhausted soon. The expected number of UAVs far exceeds the number of civil airplanes in operation. The ADS-B system is utilized in civil aviation for airplane to broadcast its ID, coordinates, altitude for other airplanes and ground control stations. If this system is adopted for drone IDs, it has additional benefit with backward compatibility with civil aviation infrastructure. Then, pilots and dispatchers will be able to see UAVs on their control screens and take those into account. If not, a gateway translation system between the propose drone ID and civil aviation system should be implemented. WiFi and Bluetooth are two wireless technologies currently recommended by ASTM specifications due to their widespread use and broadcast nature. However, those have limited range (max 100s of meters) and may not reliably deliver UAV id at high altitude or distance. Therefore, a study should be made of alternative technologies from telecom domain (WiMax, 5G) or sensor networks (Sigfox, LORA). Such transmission technologies can impose additional restrictions on packet sizes and frequency of transmissions, but could provide better energy efficiency and range. In civil aviation, CPDLC link is used to transmit command and control between the pilots and ATC. It could be considered for UAVs as well due to long range and proven use despite its lack of security [3]. L-band Digital Aeronautical Communications System (LDACS) is being standardized by ICAO and IETF for use in future civil aviation [1,2]. It provides secure communication, positioning and control for aircraft using a dedicated radio band. It should be analyzed as a potential provider for UAV ids as well. This will bring the benefit of a global integrated system creating a global airspace use awareness. [1]  N.Mäurer, C. Schmitt: Towards Successful Realization of the LDACS Cybersecurity Architecture: An Updated Datalink Security Threat- and Risk Analysis. Integrated Communications, Navigation and Surveillance Conference (ICNS), IEEE, Washington, DC, USA, April 2019 [2]  N.Mäurer, T.Gräupl, C.Schmitt: L-band Digital Aeronautical Communications System (LDACS). IETF Internet Draft, Informational Draft, Fremont, CA, USA, Version 01, draft-maeurer-raw-ldacs-02, April 2020 [3] A. Gurtov, T. Polishchuk and M. Wernberg, Controller-Pilot Data Link Communication Security, MDPI Sensors 2018, 18(5), 1636. --------------3376FAA09854FF54555A5C6D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hej

Please find my input for the requirements draft which was discussed at the interim meeting.

br Andrei

LiU&LFV


Discussion

This document is largely based on the process of one SDO, ASTM. Therefore, it is tailored to specific needs and data formats of this standard. Other organization, for example in EU, do not necessary follow the same architecture. IETF traditionally operates assuming the source material for the standardization process is publicly available. However, ASTM standards require a fee for download. Therefore a double-liaison program at IETF might need to be activated, providing free access to ASTM specifications for contributors to IETF documents.

The need for drone ID and operator privacy is an open discussion topic. For instance, in vehicular domain each car carries a publicly visible plate number. In some countries, for nominal cost or even for free, anyone can resolve the identity and contact information of the owner. Civil commercial aviation and maritime industry  also has a tradition of broadcasting plane or ship ID, coordinates and even flight plans in plain text. Community networks such as OpenSky and Flightradar use this open information through ADS-B to deploy public services of flight tracking. Many researchers also use these data to perform optimization of routes and airport operations. Such ID information should be integrity protected, but not necessarily confidential.

In civil aviation, aircraft identity is broadcasted by a device known as transponder. It is transmitting a four-digit squawk code, which is assigned by a traffic controller to and airplane after approving a flight plan. There are several reserved codes such as 7600 which indicate radio communication failure. The codes a unique in certain traffic area and can be re-assigned when entering another control area. The code is transmitted in plain text by transponder and also used for collision avoidance by a system known as TCAM. The system could be used for UAVs as well initially, but the code space is quite limited and likely to be exhausted soon. The expected number of UAVs far exceeds the number of civil airplanes in operation.

The ADS-B system is utilized in civil aviation for airplane to broadcast its ID, coordinates, altitude for other airplanes and ground control stations. If this system is adopted for drone IDs, it has additional benefit with backward compatibility with civil aviation infrastructure. Then, pilots and dispatchers will be able to see UAVs on their control screens and take those into account. If not, a gateway translation system between the propose drone ID and civil aviation system should be implemented.

WiFi and Bluetooth are two wireless technologies currently recommended by ASTM specifications due to their widespread use and broadcast nature. However, those have limited range (max 100s of meters) and may not reliably deliver UAV id at high altitude or distance. Therefore, a study should be made of alternative technologies from telecom domain (WiMax, 5G) or sensor networks (Sigfox, LORA). Such transmission technologies can impose additional restrictions on packet sizes and frequency of transmissions, but could provide better energy efficiency and range. In civil aviation, CPDLC link is used to transmit command and control between the pilots and ATC. It could be considered for UAVs as well due to long range and proven use despite its lack of security [3].

L-band Digital Aeronautical Communications System (LDACS) is being standardized by ICAO and IETF for use in future civil aviation [1,2]. It provides secure communication, positioning and control for aircraft using a dedicated radio band. It should be analyzed as a potential provider for UAV ids as well. This will bring the benefit of a global integrated system creating a global airspace use awareness.

[1]  N.Mäurer, C. Schmitt: Towards Successful Realization of the LDACS Cybersecurity Architecture: An Updated Datalink Security Threat- and Risk Analysis. Integrated Communications, Navigation and Surveillance Conference (ICNS), IEEE, Washington, DC, USA, April 2019

[2]  N.Mäurer, T.Gräupl, C.Schmitt: L-band Digital Aeronautical Communications System (LDACS). IETF Internet Draft, Informational Draft, Fremont, CA, USA, Version 01, draft-maeurer-raw-ldacs-02, April 2020

[3] A. Gurtov, T. Polishchuk and M. Wernberg, Controller-Pilot Data Link Communication Security, MDPI Sensors 2018, 18(5), 1636.


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boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01EC_01D61A36.5CADAB90" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Content-Language: en-us Thread-Index: AdYaV+MmAaKJCBy/TOKM9SeOqV3TDQ== X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 200423-2, 04/23/2020), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Not-Tested X-Authenticated-User: skh@ndzh.com Archived-At: Subject: [Tm-rid] resending X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 16:46:40 -0000 This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01EC_01D61A36.5CADAB90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stu, Bob, Adam, and Shuai: I did not find this draft in WG Adoption status. I suspect because you are still considering the requirements. This document needs a bit of editing to match your presentation in the interim this week. Are you looking for comments online or offline? Sue ------=_NextPart_000_01EC_01D61A36.5CADAB90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Stu, Bob, = Adam, and Shuai:

 

I did not = find this draft in WG Adoption status.  I suspect because you are = still considering the requirements.

 

This = document needs a bit of editing to match your presentation in the = interim this week.

 

Are you = looking for comments online or offline?

 

Sue =

 

------=_NextPart_000_01EC_01D61A36.5CADAB90-- From nobody Fri Apr 24 11:18:11 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03823A107F for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:17:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cLfXgnmaNykK for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 23EF93A118A for ; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 11:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DAF16221B; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:17:44 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id VUbPZo2R1F6v; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:17:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5CEF46219D; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:17:34 -0400 (EDT) To: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" , Susan Hares , "tm-rid@ietf.org" References: <01a201d61a56$c2f5da10$48e18e30$@ndzh.com> <38735D0D-2A5F-4BDF-B7D7-CD84185D6916@cisco.com> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 14:17:27 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <38735D0D-2A5F-4BDF-B7D7-CD84185D6916@cisco.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------BC2C92BC87786FF0D2226BE0" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tm-rid] WG adoption of draft-card-drip-reqs-02.txt - 4/20 (???) X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 18:17:49 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------BC2C92BC87786FF0D2226BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit While we are waiting for the separate email for call to adopt reqs draft which I vote yes. And call to adopt arch draft as well... On 4/24/20 12:40 PM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote: > > [Resending to the real email address tm-rid@ietf.org > ] > > Thank you, Susan, indeed, the call for adoption should be sent by a > separate email (i.e., in addition to the datatracker automatic email) > > Regards > > -éric > > *From: *Susan Hares > *Date: *Friday, 24 April 2020 at 18:38 > *To: *"trn-rid@ietf.org" > *Cc: *Eric Vyncke > *Subject: *WG adoption of draft-card-drip-reqs-02.txt - 4/20 (???) > > Greetings: > > I could not find a WG call for adoption on > draft-card-drip-reqs-02.txt.    I found 4/20 a status change from the > data tracker. > > Please note that is normal process to send out a call and not let > status change do the call. > > Status:  ready for WG adoption > > Good points: > > 1) list of requirements is clearly placed in document > > 2) requirements are broken into general, identifier, and privacy > > 3) term list for requirements is set-out in the beginning > > What’s missing > > 4) You need to consider the scratch built hobby of drones > >         How are you going to enable modeler (AMA) or Ham radio > operator licensing > >         to select be able to join this system. > >        If this is not a requirement, why are you > ASTM F3411-19 and FAA NPRM only specify BT4&5 and WiFi for communications.  Lots of comments on NPRM on this.  Note that the IEEE 802.16 (WiMax) is now being updated in 802,.15.16t (they did not want to restart 802.16 so stuck them under 802.15 :) ) for licensed spectrum for mission-critical UAS: http://www.ieee802.org/15/pub/TG16t.html "Examples of operating frequencies include 160 MHz, 450 MHz, 700 MHz, and 900 MHz" then there is 3GPP. And anyone else that has spectrum.... I don't think the Architecture nor Requirements are the place to deal with who can join in.  Much of that is controlled by current FAA rules (I think part 105?  Stu help here?).  I will be pushing out a draft next week which I believe is the next piece in the chain from the requirements into the tech.  This draft will be something like drip-uas-rid and is where we actually define the RID that meets the requirements. Once an Operator is permitted by the FAA (and this does not impact on those little toys), then the Operator must go through the USS registration for themselves and their UAS.  None of this is specified and everyone is expecting each USS to set its own method with help from the UAS manufacturers (big guys win).  This is one of the areas we come in, but is not so clearly specified in the Charter.  Stuff I figured out as I dove into actually writing the drafts I have.... Stay tuned. > Draft needs editorial smoothing for context: > > 1) introductory text assumes background, and may need to be > “harmonized” for IETF RFC series reader > > 2) Terms like “make RID immediate actionable” is not really specific > enough as to what needs to be done. > >  You need a workable system for severely constrained environments and > Internet. > > 3) Remainder of the text needs a bit of smoothing. > +3 > Sue Hares > > -- Standard Robert Moskowitz Owner HTT Consulting C:248-219-2059 F:248-968-2824 E:rgm@labs.htt-consult.com There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who gets the credit --------------BC2C92BC87786FF0D2226BE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit While we are waiting for the separate email for call to adopt reqs draft which I vote yes.

And call to adopt arch draft as well...

On 4/24/20 12:40 PM, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote:

[Resending to the real email address tm-rid@ietf.org]

 

Thank you, Susan, indeed, the call for adoption should be sent by a separate email (i.e., in addition to the datatracker automatic email)

 

Regards

 

-éric

 

From: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>
Date: Friday, 24 April 2020 at 18:38
To: "trn-rid@ietf.org" <trn-rid@ietf.org>
Cc: Eric Vyncke <evyncke@cisco.com>
Subject: WG adoption of draft-card-drip-reqs-02.txt - 4/20 (???)

 

Greetings:

 

I could not find a WG call for adoption on draft-card-drip-reqs-02.txt.    I found 4/20 a status change from the data tracker.  

 

Please note that is normal process to send out a call and not let status change do the call.

 

 

Status:  ready for WG adoption

Good points:

1) list of requirements is clearly placed in document

2) requirements are broken into general, identifier, and privacy

3) term list for requirements is set-out in the beginning

 

What’s missing

4) You need to consider the scratch built hobby of drones

        How are you going to enable modeler (AMA) or Ham radio operator licensing

        to select be able to join this system.   

       If this is not a requirement, why are you


ASTM F3411-19 and FAA NPRM only specify BT4&5 and WiFi for communications.  Lots of comments on NPRM on this.  Note that the IEEE 802.16 (WiMax) is now being updated in 802,.15.16t (they did not want to restart 802.16 so stuck them under 802.15 :) ) for licensed spectrum for mission-critical UAS:

http://www.ieee802.org/15/pub/TG16t.html

"Examples of operating frequencies include 160 MHz, 450 MHz, 700 MHz, and 900 MHz"

then there is 3GPP.

And anyone else that has spectrum....

I don't think the Architecture nor Requirements are the place to deal with who can join in.  Much of that is controlled by current FAA rules (I think part 105?  Stu help here?).  I will be pushing out a draft next week which I believe is the next piece in the chain from the requirements into the tech.  This draft will be something like drip-uas-rid and is where we actually define the RID that meets the requirements.

Once an Operator is permitted by the FAA (and this does not impact on those little toys), then the Operator must go through the USS registration for themselves and their UAS.  None of this is specified and everyone is expecting each USS to set its own method with help from the UAS manufacturers (big guys win).  This is one of the areas we come in, but is not so clearly specified in the Charter.  Stuff I figured out as I dove into actually writing the drafts I have....


Stay tuned.

 

 

Draft needs editorial smoothing for context:

1) introductory text assumes background, and may need to be “harmonized” for IETF RFC series reader

2) Terms like “make RID immediate actionable” is not really specific enough as to what needs to be done.

 You need a workable system for severely constrained environments and Internet.

3) Remainder of the text needs a bit of smoothing.


+3

 

Sue Hares

  



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As a result, we are just resending the same email. The chairs will consider both threads, so there is no need to re-respond if you have already responded. If you have not provided some feed backs, that is still time to do so! This mail reminds the ongoing working group adoption call for "Drone Remote Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements" available at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-reqs-02. This document targets one of the WG milestones. Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to contribute. If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why. The call ends up on Monday, May 04, 2020. Thank you, Daniel & Med On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:27 PM IETF Secretariat < ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org> wrote: > > The DRIP WG has placed draft-card-drip-reqs in state > Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Mohamed Boucadair) > > The document is available at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-card-drip-reqs/ > > Comment: > WG members, > > This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote > Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements" available at > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-reqs-02. This document targets > one of the WG milestones. > > Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, > please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to > contribute. > > If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why. > > The call ends up on Monday, May 04, 2020. > > Thank you, > Daniel & Med > > -- Daniel Migault Ericsson --0000000000006a38f405a43cb788 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,=C2=A0

The previous=C2=A0= call for adoption has been issued by the datatracker, and it has been repor= ted that some members may ignore such automatic emails. As a result, we are= just resending the same email. The chairs will consider=C2=A0both threads,= so there is no need to re-respond if you have already responded.=C2=A0 If = you have not provided some feed backs, that is still time to do so!

This mail reminds the ongoing working group a= doption call for "Drone Remote
Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements" available at
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-reqs-= 02. This document targets
one of the WG milestones.

Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to cont= ribute.

If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why.

The call ends up on Monday, May 04, 2020.

Thank you,
Daniel & Med

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:27 PM IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat-reply@iet= f.org> wrote:

The DRIP WG has placed draft-card-drip-reqs in state
Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Mohamed Boucadair)

The document is available at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-card-dr= ip-reqs/

Comment:
WG members,

This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote
Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements" available at
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-reqs-= 02. This document targets
one of the WG milestones.

Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to cont= ribute.

If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why.

The call ends up on Monday, May 04, 2020.

Thank you,
Daniel & Med



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Daniel Migault
Ericsson
--0000000000006a38f405a43cb788-- From nobody Mon Apr 27 07:28:05 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85FF3A0B8D for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 07:28:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id AParXrEUG90W for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 07:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EADD3A0B8F for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 07:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E2C76216E; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 10:27:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id L2MQ1YeW9QX2; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 10:27:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 41F856212C; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 10:27:52 -0400 (EDT) To: Daniel Migault , tm-rid@ietf.org References: <158740723641.19894.16183085343197507208@ietfa.amsl.com> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: <6313a6f1-7d81-cf03-39fd-e3ad2f23ae2a@labs.htt-consult.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 10:27:49 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------19E9ABBFF0E06BC359A0634F" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tm-rid] Call For Adoption draft-card-drip-reqs (reminder) X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 14:28:04 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------19E9ABBFF0E06BC359A0634F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This document should be adopted as the official DRIP Requirements. Further DRIP participants SHOULD participate in submitting comments to the authors so this draft can progress in time for the next Interim meeting. And if someone is developing a counter DRIP Requirements proposal, please notify the chairs. Finally, draft-card-drip-auth SHOULD be adopted by the DRIP workgroup. Robert Moskowitz On 4/26/20 10:46 PM, Daniel Migault wrote: > Hi, > > The previous call for adoption has been issued by the datatracker, and > it has been reported that some members may ignore such automatic > emails. As a result, we are just resending the same email. The chairs > will consider both threads, so there is no need to re-respond if you > have already responded.  If you have not provided some feed backs, > that is still time to do so! > > This mail reminds the ongoing working group adoption call for "Drone > Remote > Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements" available at > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-reqs-02. This document targets > one of the WG milestones. > > Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, > please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to > contribute. > > If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why. > > The call ends up on Monday, May 04, 2020. > > Thank you, > Daniel & Med > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:27 PM IETF Secretariat > > wrote: > > > The DRIP WG has placed draft-card-drip-reqs in state > Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Mohamed Boucadair) > > The document is available at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-card-drip-reqs/ > > Comment: > WG members, > > This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote > Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements" available at > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-reqs-02. This document > targets > one of the WG milestones. > > Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. > If so, > please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to > contribute. > > If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why. > > The call ends up on Monday, May 04, 2020. > > Thank you, > Daniel & Med > > > > -- > Daniel Migault > Ericsson > --------------19E9ABBFF0E06BC359A0634F Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This document should be adopted as the official DRIP Requirements. 

Further DRIP participants SHOULD participate in submitting comments to the authors so this draft can progress in time for the next Interim meeting.

And if someone is developing a counter DRIP Requirements proposal, please notify the chairs.

Finally, draft-card-drip-auth SHOULD be adopted by the DRIP workgroup.

Robert Moskowitz

On 4/26/20 10:46 PM, Daniel Migault wrote:
Hi, 

The previous call for adoption has been issued by the datatracker, and it has been reported that some members may ignore such automatic emails. As a result, we are just resending the same email. The chairs will consider both threads, so there is no need to re-respond if you have already responded.  If you have not provided some feed backs, that is still time to do so!

This mail reminds the ongoing working group adoption call for "Drone Remote
Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements" available at
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-reqs-02. This document targets
one of the WG milestones.

Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so,
please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to contribute.

If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why.

The call ends up on Monday, May 04, 2020.

Thank you,
Daniel & Med

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:27 PM IETF Secretariat <ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org> wrote:

The DRIP WG has placed draft-card-drip-reqs in state
Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Mohamed Boucadair)

The document is available at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-card-drip-reqs/

Comment:
WG members,

This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote
Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements" available at
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-reqs-02. This document targets
one of the WG milestones.

Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so,
please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to contribute.

If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why.

The call ends up on Monday, May 04, 2020.

Thank you,
Daniel & Med



--
Daniel Migault
Ericsson


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Hi all,

 

This starts a 2 week working group adoption call = for "Drone Remote Identification Protocol (DRIP) Architecture" av= ailable at https://too= ls.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-arch-02.

 

Please indicate whether you think the document sh= ould be adopted. If so, please indicate also whether you're willing to revi= ew it and/or to contribute.

 

If you think the draft should not be adopted, ple= ase explain why.

 

The call ends up on Monday, May 11, 2020.

 

Thank you,

Daniel & Med

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charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I support adoption of this document. I am willing to review the document an= d contribute to its development. Scott From: Tm-rid On Behalf Of mohamed.boucadair@orang= e.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 10:54 AM To: tm-rid@ietf.org Cc: drip-chairs@ietf.org Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Tm-rid] Adoption Call for draft-card-drip-arch (27/04-= 11/05) Hi all, This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote Identifi= cation Protocol (DRIP) Architecture" available at https://tools.ietf.org/ht= ml/draft-card-drip-arch-02. Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, pl= ease indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to contribute= . If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why. The call ends up on Monday, May 11, 2020. Thank you, Daniel & Med --_000_fe28b64400a04353a4fd7b29ad9a09b7verisigncom_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I support adoption of this document. I am willing to= review the document and contribute to its development.

 

Scott

 

From: Tm-rid <tm-rid-bounces@ietf.org> = On Behalf Of mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
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Cc: drip-chairs@ietf.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Tm-rid] Adoption Call for draft-card-drip-arch = (27/04-11/05)

 

Hi all,

 

This starts a 2 week working group adoption call = for "Drone Remote Identification Protocol (DRIP) Architecture" av= ailable at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-arch-02.

 

Please indicate whether you think the document sh= ould be adopted. If so, please indicate also whether you're willing to revi= ew it and/or to contribute.

 

If you think the draft should not be adopted, ple= ase explain why.

 

The call ends up on Monday, May 11, 2020.

 

Thank you,

Daniel & Med

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I also submitted a couple of ascii diagrams for inclusion. br Andrei LiU&LFV On 4/27/2020 4:54 PM, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote > Identification Protocol (DRIP) Architecture" available at > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-arch-02. > > > > Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If > so, please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to > contribute. > > > > If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why. > > > > The call ends up on Monday, May 11, 2020. > > > > Thank you, > > Daniel & Med > > --------------84C56269735A677F52FD2E31 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Hello,

I reviewed the document and support its adoption.

I also submitted a couple of ascii diagrams for inclusion.

br Andrei

LiU&LFV

On 4/27/2020 4:54 PM, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:

Hi all,

 

This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote Identification Protocol (DRIP) Architecture" available at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-arch-02.

 

Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to contribute.

 

If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why.

 

The call ends up on Monday, May 11, 2020.

 

Thank you,

Daniel & Med



  


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I support the adoption of this draft as a DRIP document.

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> Hi all,
>
> This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote 
> Identification Protocol (DRIP) Architecture" available at 
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-arch-02.
>
> Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If 
> so, please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to 
> contribute.
>
> If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why.
>
> The call ends up on Monday, May 11, 2020.
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> Thank you,
>
> Daniel & Med
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    I support the adoption of this draft as a DRIP document.

On 4/27/20 10:54 AM, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com wrote:

Hi all,

This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote Identification Protocol (DRIP) Architecture" available at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-arch-02.

Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to contribute.

If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why.

The call ends up on Monday, May 11, 2020.

Thank you,

Daniel & Med



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On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 10:46 PM Daniel Migault wrote: > Hi, > > The previous call for adoption has been issued by the datatracker, and it > has been reported that some members may ignore such automatic emails. As a > result, we are just resending the same email. The chairs will consider both > threads, so there is no need to re-respond if you have already responded. > If you have not provided some feed backs, that is still time to do so! > > This mail reminds the ongoing working group adoption call for "Drone Remote > Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements" available at > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-reqs-02. This document targets > one of the WG milestones. > > Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, > please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to > contribute. > > If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why. > > The call ends up on Monday, May 04, 2020. > > Thank you, > Daniel & Med > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:27 PM IETF Secretariat < > ietf-secretariat-reply@ietf.org> wrote: > >> >> The DRIP WG has placed draft-card-drip-reqs in state >> Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Mohamed Boucadair) >> >> The document is available at >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-card-drip-reqs/ >> >> Comment: >> WG members, >> >> This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote >> Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements" available at >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-reqs-02. This document >> targets >> one of the WG milestones. >> >> Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, >> please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to >> contribute. >> >> If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why. >> >> The call ends up on Monday, May 04, 2020. >> >> Thank you, >> Daniel & Med >> >> > > -- > Daniel Migault > Ericsson > -- > Tm-rid mailing list > Tm-rid@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tm-rid > --000000000000f6e75f05a447b0ea Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As the primary author of this draft, and having presented = it in our interim meeting, I have been reluctant to comment further, but be= lieve it is sufficiently complete and structured to serve as a basis for gr= oup work, so am in favor of its adoption, thanks!


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On Sun, Apr= 26, 2020 at 10:46 PM Daniel Migault <mglt.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,=C2=A0

The previous=C2=A0call for adoption has been issued by the datatracke= r, and it has been reported that some members may ignore such automatic ema= ils. As a result, we are just resending the same email. The chairs will con= sider=C2=A0both threads, so there is no need to re-respond if you have alre= ady responded.=C2=A0 If you have not provided some feed backs, that is stil= l time to do so!

This mail reminds the= ongoing working group adoption call for "Drone Remote
Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements" available at
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-reqs-= 02. This document targets
one of the WG milestones.

Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to cont= ribute.

If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why.

The call ends up on Monday, May 04, 2020.

Thank you,
Daniel & Med

On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 2:27 PM IETF Secretariat <ietf-sec= retariat-reply@ietf.org> wrote:

The DRIP WG has placed draft-card-drip-reqs in state
Call For Adoption By WG Issued (entered by Mohamed Boucadair)

The document is available at
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-card-dr= ip-reqs/

Comment:
WG members,

This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote
Identification Protocol (DRIP) Requirements" available at
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-reqs-= 02. This document targets
one of the WG milestones.

Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to cont= ribute.

If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why.

The call ends up on Monday, May 04, 2020.

Thank you,
Daniel & Med



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The architecture draft needs a lot of work, but it has pro= gressed nearly as far as I and my initial co-authors can take it without re= view and hopefully an additional co-author with a different perspective, so= I am in favor of its adoption by the WG to encourage such participation, t= hanks!

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:54 AM <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:

Hi all,

=C2=A0

This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote = Identification Protocol (DRIP) Architecture" available at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-arch-02.

=C2=A0

Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so,= please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to con= tribute.

=C2=A0

If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why.=

=C2=A0

The call ends up on Monday, May 11, 2020.

=C2=A0

Thank you,

Daniel & Med

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--00000000000042db5605a447bca8-- From nobody Mon Apr 27 09:09:14 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D72A83A091D; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 09:09:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qna7eeRh0xAf; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 09:09:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7E4003A0D74; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 09:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F32A6219D; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 12:09:00 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id tGLfValnc2oN; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 12:08:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C9CDA6212C; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 12:08:52 -0400 (EDT) To: "Card, Stu" , mohamed.boucadair@orange.com Cc: "drip-chairs@ietf.org" , "tm-rid@ietf.org" References: <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B9330314A00FE@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> From: Robert Moskowitz Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 12:08:43 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------69DBED116ED08A82A19A7515" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tm-rid] Adoption Call for draft-card-drip-arch (27/04-11/05) X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 16:09:13 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------69DBED116ED08A82A19A7515 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am on the hook for specific privacy text to augment sec 1.3, bullet 2. This feeds into drip-reqs sec 4.3 PRIV-1. Probably also need something for PRIV-2.  (PRIV-3 no my yop!) Some time this week. On 4/27/20 11:54 AM, Card, Stu wrote: > The architecture draft needs a lot of work, but it has progressed > nearly as far as I and my initial co-authors can take it without > review and hopefully an additional co-author with a different > perspective, so I am in favor of its adoption by the WG to encourage > such participation, thanks! > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:54 AM > wrote: > > Hi all, > > This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote > Identification Protocol (DRIP) Architecture" available at > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-arch-02. > > Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. > If so, please indicate also whether you're willing to review it > and/or to contribute. > > If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why. > > The call ends up on Monday, May 11, 2020. > > Thank you, > > Daniel & Med > > -- > Tm-rid mailing list > Tm-rid@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tm-rid > > --------------69DBED116ED08A82A19A7515 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am on the hook for specific privacy text to augment sec 1.3, bullet 2.

This feeds into drip-reqs sec 4.3 PRIV-1.

Probably also need something for PRIV-2.  (PRIV-3 no my yop!)

Some time this week.

On 4/27/20 11:54 AM, Card, Stu wrote:
The architecture draft needs a lot of work, but it has progressed nearly as far as I and my initial co-authors can take it without review and hopefully an additional co-author with a different perspective, so I am in favor of its adoption by the WG to encourage such participation, thanks!

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:54 AM <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:

Hi all,

 

This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote Identification Protocol (DRIP) Architecture" available at https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-arch-02.

 

Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to contribute.

 

If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why.

 

The call ends up on Monday, May 11, 2020.

 

Thank you,

Daniel & Med

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On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:09 PM Robert Moskowitz wrote: > I am on the hook for specific privacy text to augment sec 1.3, bullet 2. > > This feeds into drip-reqs sec 4.3 PRIV-1. > > Probably also need something for PRIV-2. (PRIV-3 no my yop!) > > Some time this week. > > On 4/27/20 11:54 AM, Card, Stu wrote: > > The architecture draft needs a lot of work, but it has progressed nearly > as far as I and my initial co-authors can take it without review and > hopefully an additional co-author with a different perspective, so I am in > favor of its adoption by the WG to encourage such participation, thanks! > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:54 AM wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> >> >> This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote >> Identification Protocol (DRIP) Architecture" available at >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-arch-02. >> >> >> >> Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, >> please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to >> contribute. >> >> >> >> If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why. >> >> >> >> The call ends up on Monday, May 11, 2020. >> >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> Daniel & Med >> -- >> Tm-rid mailing list >> Tm-rid@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tm-rid >> > > > -- > Tm-rid mailing list > Tm-rid@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tm-rid > -- 73's, Adam T. Wiethuechter AX Enterprize, LLC --00000000000049c1f905a4481ece Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I support the adoption of this document by the WG and will= continue participating in its development.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:0= 9 PM Robert Moskowitz <rgm@l= abs.htt-consult.com> wrote:
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I am on the hook for specific privacy text to augment sec 1.3, bullet 2.

This feeds into drip-reqs sec 4.3 PRIV-1.

Probably also need something for PRIV-2.=C2=A0 (PRIV-3 no my yop!)

Some time this week.

On 4/27/20 11:54 AM, Card, Stu wrote:
=20
The architecture draft needs a lot of work, but it has progressed nearly as far as I and my initial co-authors can take it without review and hopefully an additional co-author with a different perspective, so I am in favor of its adoption by the WG to encourage such participation, thanks!



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--00000000000049c1f905a4481ece-- From nobody Mon Apr 27 09:34:56 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB5F93A0EEA; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 09:34:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5z_oEHMCii4m; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 09:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-ua1-x932.google.com (mail-ua1-x932.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::932]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 791653A0EA7; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 09:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-ua1-x932.google.com with SMTP id m9so4334119uaq.12; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 09:34:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=iJ13zrB0mANCjgka1YnVrNvAWw1bskZvqcvAHm4Ja5c=; b=MN2G7e+UT8ZtO4g44c8cMqhfMMl5PYf9/zJhsDOaUHQIIZZS6eIO8Pp7j48zEuOAl9 M2tgdqzz3LgOHDsD4etW48h3mSFrFkwfZiAYFLl/LDMC6kC0mxq0rVbkHd3pM8q5jGDJ dkbYX6EA6dtVeVQ2uPNhpA7kptpbEkQv7JmMw7h0TAPDySPK58L/Z5/tTkRtLBRk9oDl HJqjZM0vHSTH//B7PYFljAfGhq0ciAhfEgzezByD17MgwcDllSdQeP5yDYU/fOv0Pxqz CLrbbsPIKai80zVjtrJ88A9/xJ95Gqf//nEM9gNDNnE/pDUq55TRhRO/9w4lUGxn7ncp gjeQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=iJ13zrB0mANCjgka1YnVrNvAWw1bskZvqcvAHm4Ja5c=; b=ndouebsCJJhS612cHkSepjMvnQKm/6WN36zXb0+fqHvJLzO1rom6nJNkeAaiN3Lapo m/yDX2OX9w2n2ABOC9wbICvQWYFRuVzK+FZ4GBrapFZahPZs2YxifsEk+azM6ozcRLG+ 6jHOBKncaKfIDfpeS0z1pPPn8YhPaBzSmDW/Gn4BJUTUHszSNbKv5FbHr4asqgWlHDoU l4E3TIgDc/1p6dVeBOziwIvCy571izTo1lhk6KFOR7SwTqPUm5mRmPn3CLPaTjqtPaK3 rW9F+Q3zepZOC1s6hoZ3SfL/DbgT0/x/joMLYROj8EwGhY11npx5GNUbk+2LZ1qUKidN VYrg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuabBoExFx47Nb/KYEXE9Wlhr5s5r+IENB09breTeeMReD0RBhNa qQ0f/i6c8JKT/g4LMNIuYb1S8CVTcB0gFuzSSw8IBw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJMMpzSGInRN3TXWy+qap7QeAfIQAZpkthe+R3IGYqZedb1YkcBsXMcUjs0GTrZXwQfjYm+GnkXx/q5OQF9mK0= X-Received: by 2002:a9f:22e5:: with SMTP id 92mr16976518uan.114.1588005290460; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 09:34:50 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B9330314A00FE@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> In-Reply-To: From: Daniel Migault Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 12:34:39 -0400 Message-ID: To: "Wiethuechter, Adam" Cc: "tm-rid@ietf.org" , mohamed.boucadair@orange.com, "drip-chairs@ietf.org" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003d4ed805a4484b7a" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tm-rid] Adoption Call for draft-card-drip-arch (27/04-11/05) X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 16:34:54 -0000 --0000000000003d4ed805a4484b7a Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I support the adoption of the document. Yours, Daniel On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:22 PM Wiethuechter, Adam < adam.wiethuechter@axenterprize.com> wrote: > I support the adoption of this document by the WG and will continue > participating in its development. > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:09 PM Robert Moskowitz < > rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote: > >> I am on the hook for specific privacy text to augment sec 1.3, bullet 2. >> >> This feeds into drip-reqs sec 4.3 PRIV-1. >> >> Probably also need something for PRIV-2. (PRIV-3 no my yop!) >> >> Some time this week. >> >> On 4/27/20 11:54 AM, Card, Stu wrote: >> >> The architecture draft needs a lot of work, but it has progressed nearly >> as far as I and my initial co-authors can take it without review and >> hopefully an additional co-author with a different perspective, so I am in >> favor of its adoption by the WG to encourage such participation, thanks! >> >> On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:54 AM wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> >>> >>> This starts a 2 week working group adoption call for "Drone Remote >>> Identification Protocol (DRIP) Architecture" available at >>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-card-drip-arch-02. >>> >>> >>> >>> Please indicate whether you think the document should be adopted. If so, >>> please indicate also whether you're willing to review it and/or to >>> contribute. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you think the draft should not be adopted, please explain why. >>> >>> >>> >>> The call ends up on Monday, May 11, 2020. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Daniel & Med >>> -- >>> Tm-rid mailing list >>> Tm-rid@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tm-rid >>> >> >> >> -- >> Tm-rid mailing list >> Tm-rid@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tm-rid >> > > > -- > 73's, > Adam T. Wiethuechter > AX Enterprize, LLC > > -- Daniel Migault Ericsson --0000000000003d4ed805a4484b7a Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I support the adoption of the document.
Yours,=C2=A0Daniel=C2=A0

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:22 PM Wiethuechter, Adam <= ;adam.wiethuechter@ax= enterprize.com> wrote:
I support the adoption of this document by t= he WG and will continue participating in its development.

On Mon, Apr 27= , 2020 at 12:09 PM Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:
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I am on the hook for specific privacy text to augment sec 1.3, bullet 2.

This feeds into drip-reqs sec 4.3 PRIV-1.

Probably also need something for PRIV-2.=C2=A0 (PRIV-3 no my yop!)

Some time this week.

On 4/27/20 11:54 AM, Card, Stu wrote:
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The architecture draft needs a lot of work, but it has progressed nearly as far as I and my initial co-authors can take it without review and hopefully an additional co-author with a different perspective, so I am in favor of its adoption by the WG to encourage such participation, thanks!



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--0000000000003d4ed805a4484b7a-- From nobody Mon Apr 27 18:16:13 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD1C3A0AC6 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 18:16:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8rp04nUyUP5V for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 18:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AAF063A0AC5 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 18:16:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628AE6212C for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 21:16:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 0qAmKCN0Qmwn for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 21:16:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2637962111 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 21:15:58 -0400 (EDT) References: <158803638288.11551.13265901277002519054@ietfa.amsl.com> To: "tm-rid@ietf.org" From: Robert Moskowitz X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <158803638288.11551.13265901277002519054@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-ID: <3a0eb032-6e6b-9f58-24e5-f8144fd36d6a@labs.htt-consult.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 21:15:53 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <158803638288.11551.13265901277002519054@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------29BBC4DC6785929D7EBFFBA9" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Tm-rid] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-drip-uas-rid-00.txt X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 01:16:12 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------29BBC4DC6785929D7EBFFBA9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit here is what I consider to be the 'linchpin' draft. It takes the drip-reqs draft and shows with requirements it addresses.  Instead of other DRIP drafts referencing the HHIT and HHIT-registry drafts, those references may all be to this draft instead. Anyway, please read it.  It SHOULD be putting into focus why HHIT for UAS RID. Thanks.  Looking forward to your comments. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-drip-uas-rid-00.txt Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 18:13:02 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Adam Wiethuechter , Stuart Card , Stuart W. Card , Robert Moskowitz A new version of I-D, draft-moskowitz-drip-uas-rid-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Robert Moskowitz and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-moskowitz-drip-uas-rid Revision: 00 Title: UAS Remote ID Document date: 2020-04-27 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 10 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-drip-uas-rid-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-drip-uas-rid/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-uas-rid-00 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-uas-rid Abstract: This document describes using Hierarchical Host Identity Tags (HHITs) as a self-asserting and thereby trustable Identifier for use as the UAS Remote ID. HHITs include explicit hierarchy to provide registration discovery for 3rd-party ID assertion. Further, HHITs can also be used elsewhere in the UTM architecture to facilitate UAS communications. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat --------------29BBC4DC6785929D7EBFFBA9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit here is what I consider to be the 'linchpin' draft.

It takes the drip-reqs draft and shows with requirements it addresses.  Instead of other DRIP drafts referencing the HHIT and HHIT-registry drafts, those references may all be to this draft instead.

Anyway, please read it.  It SHOULD be putting into focus why HHIT for UAS RID.

Thanks.  Looking forward to your comments.


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A new version of I-D, draft-moskowitz-drip-uas-rid-00.txt
has been successfully submitted by Robert Moskowitz and posted to the
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Name: draft-moskowitz-drip-uas-rid
Revision: 00
Title: UAS Remote ID
Document date: 2020-04-27
Group: Individual Submission
Pages: 10
URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-drip-uas-rid-00.txt
Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-drip-uas-rid/
Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-uas-rid-00
Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-uas-rid


Abstract:
This document describes using Hierarchical Host Identity Tags (HHITs)
as a self-asserting and thereby trustable Identifier for use as the
UAS Remote ID. HHITs include explicit hierarchy to provide
registration discovery for 3rd-party ID assertion. Further, HHITs
can also be used elsewhere in the UTM architecture to facilitate UAS
communications.



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--------------29BBC4DC6785929D7EBFFBA9-- From nobody Mon Apr 27 18:35:35 2020 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tm-rid@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07CCC3A0B35 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 18:35:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nkwaR9w0msNG for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 18:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [23.123.122.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 916F43A0B52 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 18:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B79F62111 for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 21:35:28 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id VCl4qjr4ZoPT for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 21:35:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lx140e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A7BAE6212C for ; Mon, 27 Apr 2020 21:35:23 -0400 (EDT) References: <158803758205.18596.3686306859713819209@ietfa.amsl.com> To: "tm-rid@ietf.org" From: Robert Moskowitz X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <158803758205.18596.3686306859713819209@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-ID: <29af6dde-9c65-f152-0aac-429915394187@labs.htt-consult.com> Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 21:35:16 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <158803758205.18596.3686306859713819209@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------C7515634D4EE8FC45E97BB61" Content-Language: en-US Archived-At: Subject: [Tm-rid] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-02.txt X-BeenThere: tm-rid@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Trustworthy Multipurpose RemoteID List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 01:35:34 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C7515634D4EE8FC45E97BB61 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This draft now references drip-reqs for PRIV-1. I have added sections for managing privacy.  That is when it is/not allowed and such. Comments greatly appreciated! -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-02.txt Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2020 18:33:02 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Stuart W. Card , Adam Wiethuechter , Robert Moskowitz , Stuart Card A new version of I-D, draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-02.txt has been successfully submitted by Robert Moskowitz and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy Revision: 02 Title: UAS Operator Privacy for RemoteID Messages Document date: 2020-04-27 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 11 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-02.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-02 Htmlized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy Diff: https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-02 Abstract: This document describes a method of providing privacy for UAS Operator information specified in the ASTM UAS Remote ID and Tracking messages. This is achieved by encrypting, in place, those fields containing Operator sensitive data using a hybrid ECIES. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. The IETF Secretariat --------------C7515634D4EE8FC45E97BB61 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This draft now references drip-reqs for PRIV-1.

I have added sections for managing privacy.  That is when it is/not allowed and such.

Comments greatly appreciated!



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Name: draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy
Revision: 02
Title: UAS Operator Privacy for RemoteID Messages
Document date: 2020-04-27
Group: Individual Submission
Pages: 11
URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-moskowitz-drip-operator-privacy-02.txt
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Abstract:
This document describes a method of providing privacy for UAS
Operator information specified in the ASTM UAS Remote ID and Tracking
messages. This is achieved by encrypting, in place, those fields
containing Operator sensitive data using a hybrid ECIES.



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