From rpelletier@isoc.org Thu Aug 11 07:11:19 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03ECE21F8764 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:11:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.715 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.715 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.487, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xLZc6xZwjYp4 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:11:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp154.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp154.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.154]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF4DE21F86AF for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 07:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp55.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 4F3302E0361 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:11:51 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp55.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 2B1462E02A6 for ; Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:11:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Ray Pelletier Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-58--242738095 Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 10:11:50 -0400 X-Priority: 3 References: <185054220.1313069739732.JavaMail.nobody@jsj2wl014.webex.com> To: tools-development@ietf.org Message-Id: <8CD194F8-9147-498E-9B12-4A764392A94A@isoc.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] Fwd: (Forward to attendees) Meeting invitation: Tools Cmte X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 14:11:19 -0000 --Apple-Mail-58--242738095 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Begin forwarded message: > From: Ray Pelletier > Date: August 11, 2011 9:35:39 AM EDT > To: rpelletier@isoc.org > Subject: (Forward to attendees) Meeting invitation: Tools Cmte > Reply-To: rpelletier@isoc.org >=20 >=20 > **** You can forward this email invitation to attendees ****=20 >=20 > Hello ,=20 >=20 > Ray Pelletier invites you to attend this online meeting.=20 >=20 > Topic: Tools Cmte=20 > Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2011=20 > Time: 11:00 am, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00)=20 > Meeting Number: 965 248 867=20 > Meeting Password: (This meeting does not require a password.)=20 >=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------------------------=20 > To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!)=20 > -------------------------------------------------------=20 > 1. 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=
Date: August 11, 2011 = 9:35:39 AM EDT
To: rpelletier@isoc.org
Subject: (Forward to = attendees) Meeting invitation: Tools Cmte
Reply-To: rpelletier@isoc.org


**** You can forward this email invitation to attendees = ****

Hello ,

Ray Pelletier invites you to attend = this online meeting.

Topic: Tools Cmte
Date: Wednesday, = August 17, 2011
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Meeting Number: 965 248 867
Meeting Password: (This = meeting does not require a password.)


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= --Apple-Mail-58--242738095-- From rpelletier@isoc.org Wed Aug 17 02:49:44 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F69121F8B17 for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 02:49:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -103.725 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-103.725 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.477, BAYES_00=-2.599, GB_I_INVITATION=-2, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-1, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id J64zq-WJxJME for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 02:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp164.iad.emailsrvr.com (smtp164.iad.emailsrvr.com [207.97.245.164]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id F261D21F8B0F for ; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 02:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by smtp56.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 993D03D84B9; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 05:50:33 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: OK Received: by smtp56.relay.iad1a.emailsrvr.com (Authenticated sender: rpelletier-AT-isoc.org) with ESMTPSA id 65BDA3D84B3; Wed, 17 Aug 2011 05:50:33 -0400 (EDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-108-259984099 From: Ray Pelletier X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: <8CD194F8-9147-498E-9B12-4A764392A94A@isoc.org> Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 05:50:33 -0400 Message-Id: <6B810B6D-56E8-4396-BE6D-614F4BDEECFE@isoc.org> References: <185054220.1313069739732.JavaMail.nobody@jsj2wl014.webex.com> <8CD194F8-9147-498E-9B12-4A764392A94A@isoc.org> To: Ray Pelletier X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] AGENDA Was Re: Fwd: (Forward to attendees) Meeting invitation: Tools Cmte X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 09:49:44 -0000 --Apple-Mail-108-259984099 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Tools Call 8-17-11 1. xml2rfc Tool Project - CS 2. DB Conversion WO #5 - IOLA 3. Back End Development - IOLA 4. Alt Streams Enhancements - Yaco 5. AMS - RFC, Meeting Session, Blue Sheets 6. NomCom Tools 7. Tracker Project Issues http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/ProjectList=20= 8. IT Update 9. AOB =09 On Aug 11, 2011, at 10:11 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote: >=20 >=20 > Begin forwarded message: >=20 >> From: Ray Pelletier >> Date: August 11, 2011 9:35:39 AM EDT >> To: rpelletier@isoc.org >> Subject: (Forward to attendees) Meeting invitation: Tools Cmte >> Reply-To: rpelletier@isoc.org >>=20 >>=20 >> **** You can forward this email invitation to attendees ****=20 >>=20 >> Hello ,=20 >>=20 >> Ray Pelletier invites you to attend this online meeting.=20 >>=20 >> Topic: Tools Cmte=20 >> Date: Wednesday, August 17, 2011=20 >> Time: 11:00 am, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-04:00)=20 >> Meeting Number: 965 248 867=20 >> Meeting Password: (This meeting does not require a password.)=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -------------------------------------------------------=20 >> To join the online meeting (Now from mobile devices!)=20 >> -------------------------------------------------------=20 >> 1. Go to = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D181764242&UID=3D0&RT=3DMi= MxMQ%3D%3D=20 >> 2. If requested, enter your name and email address.=20 >> 3. If a password is required, enter the meeting password: (This = meeting does not require a password.)=20 >> 4. Click "Join".=20 >>=20 >> To view in other time zones or languages, please click the link:=20 >> = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D181764242&UID=3D0&ORT=3DM= iMxMQ%3D%3D=20 >>=20 >> -------------------------------------------------------=20 >> To join the audio conference only=20 >> -------------------------------------------------------=20 >> To receive a call back, provide your phone number when you join the = meeting, or call the number below and enter the access code.=20 >> Call-in toll-free number (US/Canada): 1-866-699-3239=20 >> Call-in toll number (US/Canada): 1-408-792-6300=20 >> Global call-in numbers: = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/globalcallin.php?serviceType=3DMC&ED= =3D181764242&tollFree=3D1=20 >> Toll-free dialing restrictions: = http://www.webex.com/pdf/tollfree_restrictions.pdf=20 >>=20 >> Access code:965 248 867=20 >>=20 >> -------------------------------------------------------=20 >> For assistance=20 >> -------------------------------------------------------=20 >> 1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/mc=20 >> 2. On the left navigation bar, click "Support".=20 >>=20 >> You can contact me at:=20 >> rpelletier@isoc.org=20 >> 1-703-652-9534=20 >>=20 >> To add this meeting to your calendar program (for example Microsoft = Outlook), click this link:=20 >> = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D181764242&UID=3D0&ICS=3DM= I&LD=3D1&RD=3D2&ST=3D1&SHA2=3D-QQZJMGWzp-XwIO6qJ30nSGurNMTMrsJu5npKlqeF9I=3D= &RT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D=20 >>=20 >> The playback of UCF (Universal Communications Format) rich media = files requires appropriate players. To view this type of rich media = files in the meeting, please check whether you have the players = installed on your computer by going to = https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/systemdiagnosis.php.=20 >>=20 >> Sign up for a free trial of WebEx=20 >> http://www.webex.com/go/mcemfreetrial=20 >>=20 >> http://www.webex.com=20 >>=20 >> CCP:+14087926300x965248867#=20 >>=20 >> IMPORTANT NOTICE: This WebEx service includes a feature that allows = audio and any documents and other materials exchanged or viewed during = the session to be recorded. By joining this session, you automatically = consent to such recordings. If you do not consent to the recording, = discuss your concerns with the meeting host prior to the start of the = recording or do not join the session. Please note that any such = recordings may be subject to discovery in the event of litigation.=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development --Apple-Mail-108-259984099 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii = http://w= iki.tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb/wiki/ProjectList 

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On Aug 11, 2011, at = 10:11 AM, Ray Pelletier wrote:



Begin = forwarded message:

From: Ray Pelletier = <messenger@webex.com>
=
Date: August 11, 2011 = 9:35:39 AM EDT
To: rpelletier@isoc.org
Subject: (Forward to = attendees) Meeting invitation: Tools Cmte
Reply-To: rpelletier@isoc.org


**** You can forward this email invitation to attendees = ****

Hello ,

Ray Pelletier invites you to attend = this online meeting.

Topic: Tools Cmte
Date: Wednesday, = August 17, 2011
Time: 11:00 am, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, = GMT-04:00)
Meeting Number: 965 248 867
Meeting Password: (This = meeting does not require a password.)


= -------------------------------------------------------
To join the = online meeting (Now from mobile devices!)
= -------------------------------------------------------
1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D1817642= 42&UID=3D0&RT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D
2. If requested, enter = your name and email address.
3. If a password is required, enter = the meeting password: (This meeting does not require a password.)
= 4. Click "Join".

To view in other time zones or languages, = please click the link:
https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/j.php?ED=3D1817642= 42&UID=3D0&ORT=3DMiMxMQ%3D%3D

= -------------------------------------------------------
To join the = audio conference only
= -------------------------------------------------------
To receive = a call back, provide your phone number when you join the meeting, or = call the number below and enter the access code.
Call-in toll-free = number (US/Canada): 1-866-699-3239
Call-in toll number (US/Canada): = 1-408-792-6300
Global call-in numbers: https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/globalcallin.php?s= erviceType=3DMC&ED=3D181764242&tollFree=3D1
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Access code:965 248 867

= -------------------------------------------------------
For = assistance
------------------------------------------------------- =
1. Go to https://workgreen.webex.com/workgreen/mc
2. = On the left navigation bar, click "Support".

You can contact = me at:
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= 1-703-652-9534

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= --Apple-Mail-108-259984099-- From adrian@olddog.co.uk Fri Aug 26 09:37:11 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE43C21F8C87; Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:37:11 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.597 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.597 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.002, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CzfQSu2pFwo0; Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (asmtp4.iomartmail.com [62.128.201.175]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53FC21F8C8D; Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from asmtp4.iomartmail.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7QGVN9E005535; Fri, 26 Aug 2011 17:31:23 +0100 Received: from 950129200 (dsl-sp-81-140-15-32.in-addr.broadbandscope.com [81.140.15.32]) (authenticated bits=0) by asmtp4.iomartmail.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p7QGVLE5005521 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 26 Aug 2011 17:31:22 +0100 From: "Adrian Farrel" To: , , Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 17:38:17 +0100 Message-ID: <04ae01cc640e$8fa1d810$aee58830$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AcxkDowam4HBSjrLR0urT97WBt7Tdg== Content-Language: en-gb Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org, 'Martin Vigoureux' , iesg@ietf.org Subject: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] MPLS WG Secretary with real problems X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: adrian@olddog.co.uk List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:37:12 -0000 HI, We are in a bit of a mess. The MPLS WG secretary is blessed with a long email address (martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com). Apparently this causes tools = login a big problem with truncation at 30 characters.=20 The result seems to be a variety of messy symptoms not limited to: - duplicate login credentials created - tools crashes on login - able to log in but not to do anything - duplicate entry appearing on MPLS charter page This is stopping Martin from doing work and pushing the work back on = chairs, AD, and secretariat. My ideal fix would be that we support >30 characters. I going to guess = this is a DB problem not just a compile-time limit. Failing that, and assuming that martin does not want to change job to = work for a company with a shorter name (or change his own name to something more = compact) we will find a suitable short email address for him, and ask you to = flush his record and start again. Please advise. Thanks, Adrian > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Vigoureux [mailto:martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com] > Sent: 26 August 2011 17:11 > To: adrian@olddog.co.uk > Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org > Subject: Re: Tidying links on the MPLS charter page >=20 > Adrian, >=20 > I had some fears about this and it might be that I had good reason > to have some: > I can log on the Meeting Material Manager but do not have any right > any more to do anything ... (can't upload the minutes for example) > I do not know if it is a bug of the MMM or that removing an instance > of my address from the charter page had this impact. > A similar thing happened in the past when I was removed from the > list mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org. I lost all my rights. >=20 > I'll send the minutes to Wanda but we'll need to have this fixed. >=20 > Thanks for your help. > -m >=20 > Le 14/08/2011 16:49, Adrian Farrel a =E9crit : > > Hi, > > > > Two things that I don't believe need IESG approval. > > > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mpls/charter/ shows... > > > > Secretaries: > > Martin Vigoureux > > Martin Vigoureux > > > > Although Martin is remarkably present, I think there is only one of = him. Can you > > sort this out? > > > > > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mpls/charter/ also shows... > > > > The Working Group chairs tracking of the working group = documents can be > > viewed at http://www.tla-group.com/~mpls/mpls-wg-docs.htm > > > > The content at this is URL is very out of date and is not = maintained. Could you > > please remove this paragraph? > > > > Thanks, > > Adrian. > > > > From glen@amsl.com Fri Aug 26 09:43:32 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E7321F8C57; Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:43:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.374 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.374 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.226, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JRRs1Le7-sy2; Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:43:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E441721F8B46; Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by c1a.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C00F33A2002; Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 09:44:32 -0700 From: Glen To: Adrian Farrel Message-ID: <20110826164432.GA1694@amsl.com> References: <04ae01cc640e$8fa1d810$aee58830$@olddog.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <04ae01cc640e$8fa1d810$aee58830$@olddog.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, iesg-secretary@iesg.org, iesg@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org, 'Martin Vigoureux' Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] MPLS WG Secretary with real problems X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:43:32 -0000 Adrian - Yes, this is a database problem, and is being handled in the redesign. But there is no solution for it at this time. The short email address is the correct solution. Something from gmail would be fine. Then have him contact the IETF secretariat, and they will make the change. Glen Glen Barney IT Director AMS (IETF Secretariat) On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 05:38:17PM +0100, Adrian Farrel wrote: > HI, > > We are in a bit of a mess. > > The MPLS WG secretary is blessed with a long email address > (martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com). Apparently this causes tools login a big > problem with truncation at 30 characters. > > The result seems to be a variety of messy symptoms not limited to: > > - duplicate login credentials created > - tools crashes on login > - able to log in but not to do anything > - duplicate entry appearing on MPLS charter page > > This is stopping Martin from doing work and pushing the work back on chairs, AD, > and secretariat. > > My ideal fix would be that we support >30 characters. I going to guess this is a > DB problem not just a compile-time limit. > > Failing that, and assuming that martin does not want to change job to work for a > company with a shorter name (or change his own name to something more compact) > we will find a suitable short email address for him, and ask you to flush his > record and start again. > > Please advise. > > Thanks, > Adrian > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Martin Vigoureux [mailto:martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com] > > Sent: 26 August 2011 17:11 > > To: adrian@olddog.co.uk > > Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org > > Subject: Re: Tidying links on the MPLS charter page > > > > Adrian, > > > > I had some fears about this and it might be that I had good reason > > to have some: > > I can log on the Meeting Material Manager but do not have any right > > any more to do anything ... (can't upload the minutes for example) > > I do not know if it is a bug of the MMM or that removing an instance > > of my address from the charter page had this impact. > > A similar thing happened in the past when I was removed from the > > list mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org. I lost all my rights. > > > > I'll send the minutes to Wanda but we'll need to have this fixed. > > > > Thanks for your help. > > -m > > > > Le 14/08/2011 16:49, Adrian Farrel a ?crit : > > > Hi, > > > > > > Two things that I don't believe need IESG approval. > > > > > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mpls/charter/ shows... > > > > > > Secretaries: > > > Martin Vigoureux > > > Martin Vigoureux > > > > > > Although Martin is remarkably present, I think there is only one of him. Can > you > > > sort this out? > > > > > > > > > http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mpls/charter/ also shows... > > > > > > The Working Group chairs tracking of the working group documents can > be > > > viewed at http://www.tla-group.com/~mpls/mpls-wg-docs.htm > > > > > > The content at this is URL is very out of date and is not maintained. Could > you > > > please remove this paragraph? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Adrian. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list > TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development > From henrik@levkowetz.com Mon Aug 29 06:08:02 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 101CD21F8AEC; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 06:08:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.53 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.53 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.069, BAYES_00=-2.599, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ONZlqHSFDNW2; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 06:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from merlot.tools.ietf.org (unknown [IPv6:2a01:3f0:0:31:214:22ff:fe21:bb]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8960421F8AF2; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 06:08:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from brunello.autonomica.se ([2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e]:55086 helo=brunello.netnod.se) by merlot.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.75) (envelope-from ) id 1Qy1a9-0006yi-IG; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:08:57 +0200 Message-ID: <4E5B8F64.6080800@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 15:08:52 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:6.0) Gecko/20110812 Thunderbird/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Glen References: <04ae01cc640e$8fa1d810$aee58830$@olddog.co.uk> <20110826164432.GA1694@amsl.com> In-Reply-To: <20110826164432.GA1694@amsl.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.3.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 2a01:3f0:1:0:21e:c2ff:fe13:7e3e X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: glen@amsl.com, adrian@olddog.co.uk, tools-development@ietf.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, iesg-secretary@iesg.org, iesg@ietf.org, mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org, henrik-sent@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:51:10 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on merlot.tools.ietf.org) Cc: tools-development@ietf.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org, iesg-secretary@iesg.org, iesg@ietf.org, Adrian Farrel , mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] [Tools-discuss] MPLS WG Secretary with real problems X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 13:08:02 -0000 Hi, I've now changed the 30-character limit on usernames in the IETF database and in Django's User model (the new limit is 64 characters). Unless there are limitations elsewhere in the system, it should now be possible for people with long email addresses to log as WG chairs and do their stuff. Best regards, Henrik On 2011-08-26 18:44 Glen said: > Adrian - > > Yes, this is a database problem, and is being handled in the redesign. But > there is no solution for it at this time. The short email address is the > correct solution. Something from gmail would be fine. > > Then have him contact the IETF secretariat, and they will make the change. > > Glen > Glen Barney > IT Director > AMS (IETF Secretariat) > > On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 05:38:17PM +0100, Adrian Farrel wrote: >> HI, >> >> We are in a bit of a mess. >> >> The MPLS WG secretary is blessed with a long email address >> (martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com). Apparently this causes tools login a big >> problem with truncation at 30 characters. >> >> The result seems to be a variety of messy symptoms not limited to: >> >> - duplicate login credentials created >> - tools crashes on login >> - able to log in but not to do anything >> - duplicate entry appearing on MPLS charter page >> >> This is stopping Martin from doing work and pushing the work back on chairs, AD, >> and secretariat. >> >> My ideal fix would be that we support >30 characters. I going to guess this is a >> DB problem not just a compile-time limit. >> >> Failing that, and assuming that martin does not want to change job to work for a >> company with a shorter name (or change his own name to something more compact) >> we will find a suitable short email address for him, and ask you to flush his >> record and start again. >> >> Please advise. >> >> Thanks, >> Adrian >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Martin Vigoureux [mailto:martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com] >>> Sent: 26 August 2011 17:11 >>> To: adrian@olddog.co.uk >>> Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org >>> Subject: Re: Tidying links on the MPLS charter page >>> >>> Adrian, >>> >>> I had some fears about this and it might be that I had good reason >>> to have some: >>> I can log on the Meeting Material Manager but do not have any right >>> any more to do anything ... (can't upload the minutes for example) >>> I do not know if it is a bug of the MMM or that removing an instance >>> of my address from the charter page had this impact. >>> A similar thing happened in the past when I was removed from the >>> list mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org. I lost all my rights. >>> >>> I'll send the minutes to Wanda but we'll need to have this fixed. >>> >>> Thanks for your help. >>> -m >>> >>> Le 14/08/2011 16:49, Adrian Farrel a ?crit : >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Two things that I don't believe need IESG approval. >>>> >>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mpls/charter/ shows... >>>> >>>> Secretaries: >>>> Martin Vigoureux >>>> Martin Vigoureux >>>> >>>> Although Martin is remarkably present, I think there is only one of him. Can >> you >>>> sort this out? >>>> >>>> >>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mpls/charter/ also shows... >>>> >>>> The Working Group chairs tracking of the working group documents can >> be >>>> viewed at http://www.tla-group.com/~mpls/mpls-wg-docs.htm >>>> >>>> The content at this is URL is very out of date and is not maintained. Could >> you >>>> please remove this paragraph? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Adrian. >>>> >>>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >> > _______________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > From glen@amsl.com Mon Aug 29 09:53:20 2011 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-development@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1014A21F8BEE; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:53:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.163 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.163 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.027, BAYES_00=-2.599, NO_RELAYS=-0.001, SARE_UNSUB31=0.464, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id tUqBkGZRxAmj; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.amsl.com (mail.amsl.com [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3602221F8C2D; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by c1a.amsl.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 70F611C38220; Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:54:27 -0700 From: Glen To: Martin Vigoureux Message-ID: <20110829165427.GC427@amsl.com> References: <04ae01cc640e$8fa1d810$aee58830$@olddog.co.uk> <20110826164432.GA1694@amsl.com> <4E5B8F64.6080800@levkowetz.com> <4E5BA267.2040308@alcatel-lucent.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E5BA267.2040308@alcatel-lucent.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.17 (2007-11-01) Cc: ietf-secretary@ietf.org, "tools-development@ietf.org" , "tools-discuss@ietf.org" , "iesg-secretary@iesg.org" , Henrik Levkowetz , "iesg@ietf.org" , Adrian Farrel , "mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org" , "ietf-action@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT] [Tools-discuss] MPLS WG Secretary with real problems X-BeenThere: tools-development@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Tools Development list server List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 16:53:20 -0000 Martin - The IETF Secretariat (AMS) is the "to whom" in this case. :-) I've forwarded this on to the secretariat team, and one of them will look into this, fix it, and recontact you directly when its done. Thanks, Glen Glen Barney IT Director AMS (IETF Secretariat) On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 04:29:59PM +0200, Martin Vigoureux wrote: > Henrik, all > > thanks! Adrian had in the meantime kindly provided me with an alias, just > in case. > So I can now log in the datatracker, but that does not solve all my > issues, sadly. > The issue is that when I log in the Meeting Material Manager (and > after having selected either 81st or 82nd meeting), I end up on a > page with two bullets: > * Upload Agenda/Minutes/Presentations > * View Meeting Materials Page > and there is no link associated to the first bullet text (while there > is for the second). > This might be explained by the fact that I might not be Secretary of the > MPLS WG any more (in the databases I mean) > Indeed, when I log in the IETF Meeting Session Request Tool I get: > The list below includes those working groups for which you or your co-chair > has requested sessions at the upcoming IETF meeting. You can click on an > acronym to initiate changes to a session, or cancel a session: > > NONE > > Normally it is written MPLS instead of NONE. > This is most surely related to the request from Adrian to remove one > instance of my e-mail address that was appearing twice on the charter page > of MPLS WG (see bottom of thread). I however fail to understand how the > request to remove a duplicate e-mail address can lead to removing me my > Secretary rights and role. This is the second time this happens ... > > > Therefore, to whom is responsible for these: > > would it be possible that I: > * be able to log and operate as per my rights in the various tools > pertaining to the Secretary role (Meeting Session Request Tool, Meeting > Materials Manager, datatracker, ...) > * be subscribed (in case I was automatically un-subscribed) to > wgchairs@ietf.org > * but not subscribed to mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org > * and that my e-mail address only appears once on the MPLS WG Charter page > my e-mail address is: martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com > > maybe removing all references to me and my address and restarting from > scratch might be a good idea. > > thank you. > > regards, > martin > > Le 29/08/2011 15:08, Henrik Levkowetz a ?crit : >> Hi, >> >> I've now changed the 30-character limit on usernames in the IETF database >> and in Django's User model (the new limit is 64 characters). Unless there >> are limitations elsewhere in the system, it should now be possible for people >> with long email addresses to log as WG chairs and do their stuff. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Henrik >> >> >> On 2011-08-26 18:44 Glen said: >>> Adrian - >>> >>> Yes, this is a database problem, and is being handled in the redesign. But >>> there is no solution for it at this time. The short email address is the >>> correct solution. Something from gmail would be fine. >>> >>> Then have him contact the IETF secretariat, and they will make the change. >>> >>> Glen >>> Glen Barney >>> IT Director >>> AMS (IETF Secretariat) >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 05:38:17PM +0100, Adrian Farrel wrote: >>>> HI, >>>> >>>> We are in a bit of a mess. >>>> >>>> The MPLS WG secretary is blessed with a long email address >>>> (martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com). Apparently this causes tools login a big >>>> problem with truncation at 30 characters. >>>> >>>> The result seems to be a variety of messy symptoms not limited to: >>>> >>>> - duplicate login credentials created >>>> - tools crashes on login >>>> - able to log in but not to do anything >>>> - duplicate entry appearing on MPLS charter page >>>> >>>> This is stopping Martin from doing work and pushing the work back on chairs, AD, >>>> and secretariat. >>>> >>>> My ideal fix would be that we support>30 characters. I going to guess this is a >>>> DB problem not just a compile-time limit. >>>> >>>> Failing that, and assuming that martin does not want to change job to work for a >>>> company with a shorter name (or change his own name to something more compact) >>>> we will find a suitable short email address for him, and ask you to flush his >>>> record and start again. >>>> >>>> Please advise. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Adrian >>>> >>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Martin Vigoureux [mailto:martin.vigoureux@alcatel-lucent.com] >>>>> Sent: 26 August 2011 17:11 >>>>> To: adrian@olddog.co.uk >>>>> Cc: mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org >>>>> Subject: Re: Tidying links on the MPLS charter page >>>>> >>>>> Adrian, >>>>> >>>>> I had some fears about this and it might be that I had good reason >>>>> to have some: >>>>> I can log on the Meeting Material Manager but do not have any right >>>>> any more to do anything ... (can't upload the minutes for example) >>>>> I do not know if it is a bug of the MMM or that removing an instance >>>>> of my address from the charter page had this impact. >>>>> A similar thing happened in the past when I was removed from the >>>>> list mpls-chairs@tools.ietf.org. I lost all my rights. >>>>> >>>>> I'll send the minutes to Wanda but we'll need to have this fixed. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for your help. >>>>> -m >>>>> >>>>> Le 14/08/2011 16:49, Adrian Farrel a ?crit : >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Two things that I don't believe need IESG approval. >>>>>> >>>>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mpls/charter/ shows... >>>>>> >>>>>> Secretaries: >>>>>> Martin Vigoureux >>>>>> Martin Vigoureux >>>>>> >>>>>> Although Martin is remarkably present, I think there is only one of him. Can >>>> you >>>>>> sort this out? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/mpls/charter/ also shows... >>>>>> >>>>>> The Working Group chairs tracking of the working group documents can >>>> be >>>>>> viewed at http://www.tla-group.com/~mpls/mpls-wg-docs.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> The content at this is URL is very out of date and is not maintained. Could >>>> you >>>>>> please remove this paragraph? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Adrian. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT mailing list >>>> TOOLS-DEVELOPMENT@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-development >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tools-discuss mailing list >>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >> >