From nobody Wed Jun 1 08:23:55 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195B812D1DC for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:23:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.325 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.325 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RUwyjAMq47-g for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D109412D5C4 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:23:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local (inet-141-146-6-188.oracle.com [137.254.4.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u51FNdEG017275 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:23:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host inet-141-146-6-188.oracle.com [137.254.4.60] claimed to be unnumerable.local References: <755e2095-6a24-e875-7957-d26e4a4c9afd@nostrum.com> To: Tools Team Discussion From: Robert Sparks X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <755e2095-6a24-e875-7957-d26e4a4c9afd@nostrum.com> Message-ID: <8033dfc7-e164-1c48-ea55-ef33d60adede@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:23:34 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <755e2095-6a24-e875-7957-d26e4a4c9afd@nostrum.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------6AC871CDBA324AE1C8ADBA4B" Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Fwd: Re: Draft review experiment X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:23:49 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6AC871CDBA324AE1C8ADBA4B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There has been some discussion of utility ietf-tech-report provides in a thread on wgchairs, including a suggestion that we look at running a copy (or perhaps add similar functionality to the datatracker). The whole thread is at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=wgchairs&q=Draft+review+experiment. The tools impacting discussion is only in the few messages near the end of the thread. RjS -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: Draft review experiment Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:19:58 -0400 From: Robert Sparks To: wgchairs@ietf.org I've forwarded the discussion to tools-discuss. I've been following the thread, and plan to spend some time with the tool to better understand what it provides. I'm wondering if there's functionality to add to the datatracker (which knows about reference relationships already), perhaps in the newly revamped part of the application that lets individuals maintain a subscription list to drafts. (Btw - if you haven't spotted it, that rework significantly improved the ability for chairs to maintain subscription lists for their groups, directly affecting the "related internet drafts" section of your group's documents page) RjS On 6/1/16 9:26 AM, Tomek Mrugalski wrote: > On 31.05.2016 23:45, Linda Dunbar wrote: >> Tomek, >> >> The tool: https://github.com/tomaszmrugalski/ietf-tech-report >> needs a local copy of all of the internet drafts. >> >> That is not easy to use. Possible to have a web portal for people to enter the key fields, and sent periodical messages to alert people of the relevant drafts? > Ease of use is a matter of personal preference. I, for example, find > command line tools that can be automated very easy to use. Anyway, this > was the design choice made by Alan, who was the original author. > > Not sure if I got your question right. If you ask whether it's > technically possible - sure. Setting this tool in its current form is > maybe an hour of work and requires a server running Linux/BSD with > public IP. About the "people to enter the key fields" part, it would > require some form of framework around it to be developed. If you ask > whether I could do it - that's out of question, sorry. I'm already > overcommitted with my DHC duties and don't want to take up any extra > responsibilities, especially ones that involve recurring maintenance. > > I suppose this may be something the tools team could potentially consider. > > Tomek > > --------------6AC871CDBA324AE1C8ADBA4B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

There has been some discussion of utility ietf-tech-report provides in a thread on wgchairs, including a suggestion that we look at running a copy (or perhaps add similar functionality to the datatracker).

The whole thread is at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=wgchairs&q=Draft+review+experiment. The tools impacting discussion is only in the few messages near the end of the thread.

RjS



-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Re: Draft review experiment
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:19:58 -0400
From: Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com>
To: wgchairs@ietf.org


I've forwarded the discussion to tools-discuss.

I've been following the thread, and plan to spend some time with the 
tool to better understand what it provides. I'm wondering if there's 
functionality to add to the datatracker (which knows about reference 
relationships already), perhaps in the newly revamped part of the 
application that lets individuals maintain a subscription list to drafts.

(Btw - if you haven't spotted it, that rework significantly improved the 
ability for chairs to maintain subscription lists for their groups, 
directly affecting the "related internet drafts" section of your group's 
documents page)

RjS


On 6/1/16 9:26 AM, Tomek Mrugalski wrote:
> On 31.05.2016 23:45, Linda Dunbar wrote:
>> Tomek,
>>
>> The tool: https://github.com/tomaszmrugalski/ietf-tech-report
>> needs a local copy of all of the internet drafts.
>>
>> That is not easy to use. Possible to have a web portal for people to enter the key fields, and sent periodical messages to alert people of the relevant drafts?
> Ease of use is a matter of personal preference. I, for example, find
> command line tools that can be automated very easy to use. Anyway, this
> was the design choice made by Alan, who was the original author.
>
> Not sure if I got your question right. If you ask whether it's
> technically possible - sure. Setting this tool in its current form is
> maybe an hour of work and requires a server running Linux/BSD with
> public IP. About the "people to enter the key fields" part, it would
> require some form of framework around it to be developed. If you ask
> whether I could do it - that's out of question, sorry. I'm already
> overcommitted with my DHC duties and don't want to take up any extra
> responsibilities, especially ones that involve recurring maintenance.
>
> I suppose this may be something the tools team could potentially consider.
>
> Tomek
>
>

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[71.202.18.198]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f12sm35721607wme.13.2016.06.01.08.59.06 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 01 Jun 2016 08:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_E7923E8A-EC64-4702-8E93-091598BE7ABA"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5.2 From: Bob Hinden In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 08:59:02 -0700 Message-Id: <2F668C32-9708-4495-997B-F85FDFF29726@gmail.com> References: To: Alia Atlas X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 15:59:13 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_E7923E8A-EC64-4702-8E93-091598BE7ABA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Alia, I like the idea of including a picture. Bob > On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Alia Atlas wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with = a person's profile in datatracker? >=20 > I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging = from showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to = look someone up by name and seeing their picture. >=20 > Thanks, > Alia > -- > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at = http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at = http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues or > send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org --Apple-Mail=_E7923E8A-EC64-4702-8E93-091598BE7ABA Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJXTwZGAAoJEK7rdBF357uoiyYH/0GBuqTQOAVtFin+Qz65LpFm xPHAFNkQ8vs+8DXm8OvwSIzw6kOcWQFTREd59bSyxa6ygLoUJGytrhG0+Fh2r0Ac wd52jyOADwhQFwSzo0nvWmue79vDDNvi2J6SzSz3tcIiCa7pdni9he/6CgiRQ64S 1ytXwisX9sGszXXll8tj6jHDmn2e6x6anPQFwckWsiC71vUq4gh0EP+wR4zkv7Zt 5vTSWTdXxV4SxpRkhv4foBZZaFigJWMQW6d1MhvVjcQZWt2PJzgrexd9NFIhPiWH q8/dqIwWuZDDNpvw5l/04oKRVn3fqY62H0t6rkrKVh3ZnLNNNYysCnHjsMcbN0E= =2oB1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_E7923E8A-EC64-4702-8E93-091598BE7ABA-- From nobody Wed Jun 1 09:02:31 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C46912D5D8 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:02:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.62 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.62 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id CC_qMXQxeG85 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35DCD12B061 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:02:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mfilter40-d.gandi.net (mfilter40-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.171]) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6CE9A80D5; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 18:02:18 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter40-d.gandi.net Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([IPv6:::ffff:217.70.183.195]) by mfilter40-d.gandi.net (mfilter40-d.gandi.net [::ffff:10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id txkGVtNta-uL; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 18:02:17 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 93.199.242.26 Received: from nar-3.local (p5DC7F21A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.199.242.26]) (Authenticated sender: cabo@cabo.im) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8029DA811C; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 18:02:16 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <574F0705.2000100@tzi.org> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 18:02:13 +0200 From: Carsten Bormann User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Macintosh/20151105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bob Hinden References: <2F668C32-9708-4495-997B-F85FDFF29726@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2F668C32-9708-4495-997B-F85FDFF29726@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org, Alia Atlas Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:02:29 -0000 Where does this come from: https://tools.ietf.org/photo/bormann-carsten.jpg (As seen e.g. in https://tools.ietf.org/wg/core )? Grüße, Carsten Bob Hinden wrote: > Alia, > > I like the idea of including a picture. > > Bob > >> On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Alia Atlas wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a person's profile in datatracker? >> >> I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging from showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to look someone up by name and seeing their picture. >> >> Thanks, >> Alia >> -- >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >> >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues or >> send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > From nobody Wed Jun 1 09:03:32 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2EC712D11B for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:03:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id n99R7hf7KQLb for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:03:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-io0-x232.google.com (mail-io0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E1EBF12D5CA for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:03:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-io0-x232.google.com with SMTP id k19so13797508ioi.3 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 09:03:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=j2iS9md4qCh3YRUZlI9mBL3oH25C2oc3tO+lsf3mkDU=; b=E3xo9T/+YCWEjemAatOHORiL5SnGS1Jwa8zLXJAu5Sgk4nReQ/xZQVptSa+syPW978 yA8eMe9UucjJxnLMozWNPREaIRLl5PWENZdppGWJOC3W+3rIAZa+JZwqI6a6kt3IHqfK 8ArH/eEvRa47jqydoQzRmkDnAJePYCjVn8FtHihaQZbiTp1h/NYPT5wtQNb7njR8qk6M JVYREkjaSvTNVAKNRkczLUFx/TkEVaWoMV1TsqPPXYnr+wCfrxp3C32pX/1PXq6xJ5x2 EldA0kJdo2ADo45Ygwn5GftsVl5yvAQwmZdNvPDnsn64bdyiJ0cDBo+gzm0294Ua3Ix7 6Dwg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=j2iS9md4qCh3YRUZlI9mBL3oH25C2oc3tO+lsf3mkDU=; b=QxZEWZC22EpQmRBKSF+qFIXCpDWFNXsAdGZaPMWJDZwlMYCevybwif0F+F3FnZ8Xs2 9rWX/L/u5gMbpW2vb2m7EHbCm0XC9gA3IvPp7GQ57k2kgyytLCiWRvYeQ+OFVvqZNcMe ZyV/ahN9NkmwB0cKymxRniSmzWdlaCpkJl1AmtpH5QHJ+0hvJxwJ2ObgezSyhyrR0bgO p4igJwpoonemY3Ytd9AhUhNDVL8WDZeTyIAc1v8kgmjc8o2Xs87A0+k3fCbDMWRiWHUX zWqbKCzEbc0uaX2XvmOD5GqxjYsVpXATrs+YbBZNPMrTl0X6OSFyF2AlVThSDAb+hDJN LnSw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJyfhpPtRjUmRMPfk22llJeuJO5u8RaCdac9YrI6maefS1QH9TFKcYmlH19l0RsRv29i8OL1zmYoUE9sA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.24.7 with SMTP id 7mr7688900ioy.171.1464797007055; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 09:03:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.79.15.140 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:03:27 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <574F0705.2000100@tzi.org> References: <2F668C32-9708-4495-997B-F85FDFF29726@gmail.com> <574F0705.2000100@tzi.org> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:03:27 -0400 Message-ID: From: tjw ietf To: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c05c03046133e053439a1f3 Archived-At: Cc: Tools Team Discussion , Alia Atlas Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:03:31 -0000 --94eb2c05c03046133e053439a1f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What He Said! tim aka https://tools.ietf.org/photo/wicinski-tim.jpg On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > Where does this come from: > > https://tools.ietf.org/photo/bormann-carsten.jpg > > (As seen e.g. in > https://tools.ietf.org/wg/core > )? > > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > > Bob Hinden wrote: > > Alia, > > > > I like the idea of including a picture. > > > > Bob > > > >> On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Alia Atlas wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with = a > person's profile in datatracker? > >> > >> I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging > from showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to > look someone up by name and seeing their picture. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Alia > >> -- > >> Tools-discuss mailing list > >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > >> > >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issue= s > or > >> send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > > > > -- > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues o= r > send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > --94eb2c05c03046133e053439a1f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What He Said!

tim
aka=C2=A0https://tools.ietf.= org/photo/wicinski-tim.jpg


On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Ca= rsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote:
Where does this come from:

https://tools.ietf.org/photo/bormann-carsten.jpg=

(As seen e.g. in
https://tools.ietf.org/wg/core
)?

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten

Bob Hinden wrote:
> Alia,
>
> I like the idea of including a picture.
>
> Bob
>
>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image w= ith a person's profile in datatracker?
>>
>> I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - rang= ing from showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being abl= e to look someone up by name and seeing their picture.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alia
>> --
>> Tools-discuss mailing list
>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org
>>
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/to= ols-discuss
>>
>> Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at http://t= ools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb
>> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.or= g/tools/issues or
>> send email to webmaste= r@tools.ietf.org
>

--
Tools-discuss mailing list
Tools-discuss@ietf.org
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discu= ss

Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf= .org/tools/ietfdb
Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools= /issues or
send email to webmaster@tools.i= etf.org

--94eb2c05c03046133e053439a1f3-- From nobody Wed Jun 1 09:04:55 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62C3412D5CD for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:04:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.62 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.62 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YriSDESPcx7b for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:04:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (relay3-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.195]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3AEEF12D5CA for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:04:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mfilter10-d.gandi.net (mfilter10-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.139]) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA1EA8102; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 18:04:50 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter10-d.gandi.net Received: from relay3-d.mail.gandi.net ([IPv6:::ffff:217.70.183.195]) by mfilter10-d.gandi.net (mfilter10-d.gandi.net [::ffff:10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A-5KTqjiqNNE; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 18:04:48 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 93.199.242.26 Received: from nar-3.local (p5DC7F21A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.199.242.26]) (Authenticated sender: cabo@cabo.im) by relay3-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id EE08EA80C2; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 18:04:47 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <574F079D.2000402@tzi.org> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 18:04:45 +0200 From: Carsten Bormann User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Macintosh/20151105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <2F668C32-9708-4495-997B-F85FDFF29726@gmail.com> <574F0705.2000100@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <574F0705.2000100@tzi.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:04:54 -0000 (And why is Jaime's photo not shown in https://tools.ietf.org/wg/core ? There is an http://www.ietf.org/wg/images/jimenez-jaime.jpg Hmm.) Grüße, Carsten Carsten Bormann wrote: > Where does this come from: > > https://tools.ietf.org/photo/bormann-carsten.jpg > > (As seen e.g. in > https://tools.ietf.org/wg/core > )? > > Grüße, Carsten > > Bob Hinden wrote: >> Alia, >> >> I like the idea of including a picture. >> >> Bob >> >>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Alia Atlas wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a person's profile in datatracker? >>> >>> I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging from showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to look someone up by name and seeing their picture. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alia >>> -- >>> Tools-discuss mailing list >>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>> >>> Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >>> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues or >>> send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > From nobody Wed Jun 1 09:06:52 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1C1012D11B for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:06:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id cxG6xmcQ19-G for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-x22a.google.com (mail-yw0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9909512B057 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id h19so22996289ywc.0 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 09:06:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=e7mtBroAPtCZvMtBwtOxvgtWJVJoffXUTBAqhgogdig=; b=lJS2bTFI5H3oV29WiDFa2vYJxGMSxbzgT19l/wDkF2904J2esHE0nW9/uEXPbJNeHh ISI2ziFli6fLEEwUYPZcnA6sUjiu3pHDv/f1ycJ1w/MwNjSzqm2LAh8Q4RjkXUefBotQ oYzK+sbN/19X1+1vVPHkfcVLU/I0rGu+SHBZvX6FveGqo8PTfwwt2AqKPaZYjyFdT5a1 UtFLMoaZ611slo/l9vNsWnjXBzfhU/imEBcqCAviG946U36jyTQnzyANk+y5XBxDuyJD MgS00/XAR6Ua2YUGcmg/DUx1iutx2aoGZX/53jGgyUzqx96vZK9WBv3gvLAZ6XjDHJBJ 6n0A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=e7mtBroAPtCZvMtBwtOxvgtWJVJoffXUTBAqhgogdig=; b=KxuIqVPsBybeTQZ1jTf/3aes68OWDiuE4rNZncfaPwkrFYa8Cg5KhGNImhlL7tuRrz yWLWY6HB4WKXYDNE6D7IDmz5eR4DE1NhrDzawh6sltrkQyTw+o+16G+6dHy9dYy2Skr2 pyhNq4UOZeUGN2xqZXRcX8No9izTsYhqO5jsqy5Hq7DgNINICMUgW2/CbrKx0S3OMYsr fD6hhcTyZAYzCjmLQ7IAgl7f2zHGW9IDMUcpLz1W9eg47tlwpoPbmu/xNXMGrP6rRZRQ qCVFSRr8yzBG9p8q5tXcWhuDhWER9uCVikc2Iu4ilcB5xGR8WzMQPMHGeJXn6/7UCFxl SCtQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJHXPfayaMhPbAQCjzq0ZolgC/TF7tIBUEaucvV920u71R0pPpH9N9wDn1hOSt7AVHDy4mSMHsR4QCuLA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.37.115.75 with SMTP id o72mr2892062ybc.132.1464797206878; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 09:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.13.221.74 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:06:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <574F0705.2000100@tzi.org> References: <2F668C32-9708-4495-997B-F85FDFF29726@gmail.com> <574F0705.2000100@tzi.org> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:06:46 -0400 Message-ID: From: Alia Atlas To: Carsten Bormann Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114dd8e42f252a053439adc3 Archived-At: Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:06:50 -0000 --001a114dd8e42f252a053439adc3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I believe that is simply for WG Chairs and from https://www.ietf.org/wg/chair-photos.html but I don't know the internal details. I do know that when I go to the datatracker profile, there isn't an ability to add an image. The WG chair photos are managed manually by the Secretariat (send email to ietf-action@ietf.org to add one). I think it'd be nice to have pictures of folks on more things - on the datatracker pages as well. Regards, Alia On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Carsten Bormann wrote: > Where does this come from: > > https://tools.ietf.org/photo/bormann-carsten.jpg > > (As seen e.g. in > https://tools.ietf.org/wg/core > )? > > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten > > Bob Hinden wrote: > > Alia, > > > > I like the idea of including a picture. > > > > Bob > > > >> On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Alia Atlas wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with = a > person's profile in datatracker? > >> > >> I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging > from showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to > look someone up by name and seeing their picture. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Alia > >> -- > >> Tools-discuss mailing list > >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > >> > >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issue= s > or > >> send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > > > --001a114dd8e42f252a053439adc3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I believe that is simply for WG Chairs and from


but I don= 9;t know the internal details.
I do know that when I go to the da= tatracker profile, there isn't an ability to add an image.
Th= e WG chair photos are managed manually by the Secretariat (send email to ietf-action@ietf.org to add one).=

I think it'd be nice to have pictures of folk= s on more things - on the datatracker pages as well.

Regards,
Alia

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi= .org> wrote:
Where does thi= s come from:

https://tools.ietf.org/photo/bormann-carsten.jpg=

(As seen e.g. in
https://tools.ietf.org/wg/core
)?

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten

Bob Hinden wrote:
> Alia,
>
> I like the idea of including a picture.
>
> Bob
>
>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image w= ith a person's profile in datatracker?
>>
>> I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - rang= ing from showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being abl= e to look someone up by name and seeing their picture.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Alia
>> --
>> Tools-discuss mailing list
>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org
>>
https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/to= ols-discuss
>>
>> Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at http://t= ools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb
>> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.or= g/tools/issues or
>> send email to webmaste= r@tools.ietf.org
>

--001a114dd8e42f252a053439adc3-- From nobody Wed Jun 1 09:17:03 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD5C12D533 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:17:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -115.947 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-115.947 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5_GbyqyfDFwx for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:17:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com (rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com [173.37.86.76]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F163312D0DD for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:16:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=2417; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1464797820; x=1466007420; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:references: in-reply-to:mime-version; bh=TuYumV0hMJTp1jSFzamskIQDHeRuVTqMHS4yaB8x/sI=; b=U8lHVxUzik4ibzocgWsJoqwwXEFJvjbcv9aGbdDku5ATdnrF+OK4iRlf BbETyxQMhi+xsDogEbWxvQxbMoSE6LawcXAuHVYvEBDL0Sm4ucVp8NwvZ uJXQl21cQqC+WDoZIJudLGm+EARzFEvJpE6WB8ciQTv3Pi1/YqIrpMv4J o=; X-Files: signature.asc : 833 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A0AVAgBdCU9X/40NJK1dgz1WfQauIYtvD?= =?us-ascii?q?oF6FwuFbwKBMjgUAQEBAQEBAWUnhEUBAQEDAQEBAWsLBQsCAQgOCi4hBgsUEQI?= =?us-ascii?q?EDgUOiAcDDwgOvQYNhB8BAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEBAQEODogeglaCQ4FPE?= =?us-ascii?q?QFagm6CEhwFiACFZYEyiG0zAYMqgWhthieBeYFpToQBiGSHZIdnAR4BQ4Ntbok?= =?us-ascii?q?CNn8BAQE?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.26,401,1459814400"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="110609456" Received: from alln-core-8.cisco.com ([173.36.13.141]) by rcdn-iport-5.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 01 Jun 2016 16:16:59 +0000 Received: from XCH-ALN-011.cisco.com (xch-aln-011.cisco.com [173.36.7.21]) by alln-core-8.cisco.com (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id u51GGw9F016022 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Wed, 1 Jun 2016 16:16:59 GMT Received: from xch-rcd-013.cisco.com (173.37.102.23) by XCH-ALN-011.cisco.com (173.36.7.21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1104.5; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:16:58 -0500 Received: from xch-rcd-013.cisco.com ([173.37.102.23]) by XCH-RCD-013.cisco.com ([173.37.102.23]) with mapi id 15.00.1104.009; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:16:58 -0500 From: "Fred Baker (fred)" To: Alia Atlas Thread-Topic: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? Thread-Index: AQHRvB3zjYlVCwn8+Eas47WX8bKXYp/VHZ+A Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 16:16:58 +0000 Message-ID: <790FCE41-EEC8-49D0-963C-A2A6B80780C2@cisco.com> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: yes X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) x-ms-exchange-messagesentrepresentingtype: 1 x-ms-exchange-transport-fromentityheader: Hosted x-originating-ip: [10.19.64.115] Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_F9A9F7D3-100C-426A-A0E4-F378A5A9057E"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Archived-At: Cc: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:17:02 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_F9A9F7D3-100C-426A-A0E4-F378A5A9057E Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Alia Atlas wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with = a person's profile in datatracker? Define "profile"? I could imagine their bio ("Alia is an AD, works for = ...") or something more automated such as Jari's pages. In datatracker, = it might be interesting to be able to enter a person's name or email and = see what links to their active IDs and working groups, and an RFC and = expired ID history for them. > I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging = from showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to = look someone up by name and seeing their picture. >=20 > Thanks, > Alia > -- > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >=20 > Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at = http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at = http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues or > send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org --Apple-Mail=_F9A9F7D3-100C-426A-A0E4-F378A5A9057E Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQIVAwUBV08KeUayAOS/EQ8MAQLBGQ//a4GrV2N/nTniExg7F0E8z1uy4pOVwDTL ogTQdSHSKRamDW/r+IR2cQB8pkm4vMksmc2ZS/LFKkO20LxM6YNdI5KmSB+nOh/e f90Z95fDrxwBihzSEf4tSzsGYRbOs+xhlP9gbynnQgO7W3h5HjU23rKyGOz9+3d4 NeFFk9yV9pnA7BbMPla2y4S2U3yYYYapiCQSKYnZcBaqhQakqrIPRxaos6Gb13O1 z7+mHZCLdhWKS8JYLTbPTBSUllG/UDCjT8VO6RURmHMz3N1WekUaWJ1sMZoa3Bo4 YOg/qalH6Z31AA+jUbm7sBwD39pOSM+VR2kay/3ICd5Q/j/IFxgWlT/dVLFt8SSn 13bX4QoGjIMO+gPc3OjgTkX7aNbJvz8dMo2KaisnecpdwTS5wgLT9AoX51GFX1f/ b+uzOOVgmws/Bkl4vAe4e/ab4FmcCcFxUyV1ycIaJ2GNM7JO3mvUcNTxTlj11gDg 2tFA9SBO98U0ecz8hboHA6GM8grnzB9ajnMmAnGRCy8hGdWMHMkptoiQHqkDVbQ6 uJ7+v7OIpyxSYgKMKvI7u8vb4yqhuhR9glTaI/SN0m4uR2LKlBB3mmvVokkZRhbX DHi9IC3D7gBIzMQmYnSt1UClBK/R2lCg8WTtvtMjHvA76pCWwX929/ad7e679oiu nrItJbXSG4w= =aoe8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_F9A9F7D3-100C-426A-A0E4-F378A5A9057E-- From nobody Wed Jun 1 09:48:46 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756AD12D5EC for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:48:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id E6yCvh0aoBQO for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F6BA12D530 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:48:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 81-235-150-134-no105.tbcn.telia.com ([81.235.150.134]:56530 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1b89Jx-0001dj-9m; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 09:48:41 -0700 Message-ID: <574F11E2.4020806@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 18:48:34 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alia Atlas , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7OIA4OsIFoxOxRwV7e92SLd9aQH8leTdf" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.235.150.134 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, akatlas@gmail.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:48:44 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --7OIA4OsIFoxOxRwV7e92SLd9aQH8leTdf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Alia, On 2016-06-01 17:54, Alia Atlas wrote: > Hi, >=20 > How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a= > person's profile in datatracker? >=20 > I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging f= rom > showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to look= > someone up by name and seeing their picture. Funny you should ask that now. We've started that work; Robert has added database fields and a proof-of-concept picture page, and I've continued from there today. Basic image and bio information support for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with) should come in with the next minor release; I expect there will be various enhancements in line with suggestions in this thread coming in during the following few releases. Best regards, Henrik --7OIA4OsIFoxOxRwV7e92SLd9aQH8leTdf Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXTxHiAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaERUQAIll40SRzUqEdQUWt6g2V9wR E0VsWWO2JJjxDPoruUe8GGy+S5Dwe40b+RFNY8VShfA0qk3ocplKy2VX9XFCJl20 17D/PBUrYS46kOsh43SiiMjjgRss7jfeHMX6pVwP1h3QlHfcWC22lmUU24z7haVF Bx9x5XKjhbKfvkbOvo2qYeV6x75GeaejppPHrDRe3uOSw01Mbo/PTMLVonvA0aw9 T9C1CXeZbfsUq3blg7k7a9feTlfM0i9XYD1AKvm5RJrPex+JWgA4NOEagjFvI/m7 pTVXpOi9IzwoV6e801Lr3yn0rlxJuHCDEbQH1RzsWk6Oegdb59LBoeCHrjxSN0sS HFK8Cc0PMOHSI3b16jqnZjwZDv20PWPn+bfrDyhMLDUC7O2PD3cUpbFjhH3uC5Ha ABZsA5oZ86VpViCcf++NNrtEh6xExUZ+O0CUWMr2fTC+557ia8cXN2ns/HVAAoI9 0rd23K3fGBuzCDLeDLQNmdqzAG7YOtiuquf9HJCCM5XgWs0G9KX45bBmkVH7loMr TVK2epiKrT5TRcxRFeQgXFU8QmPHOdArloYdjlJ64SJbscCjKnht5SVNSgFsnii5 w7TwyVsPpnVSYsn0c+jM+iP9QgTJCc0ikCikEjhr2s31+vFURUsX8hFIuvAizldV X3k6oJiuf6e4+/go9llz =fcqI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7OIA4OsIFoxOxRwV7e92SLd9aQH8leTdf-- From nobody Wed Jun 1 09:55:50 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D70912B034 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:55:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Vk_uatk-BxWg for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07FEE12B007 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 09:55:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 81-235-150-134-no105.tbcn.telia.com ([81.235.150.134]:56634 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1b89Qm-0005Cc-Lt; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 09:55:45 -0700 Message-ID: <574F1389.5090706@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 18:55:37 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carsten Bormann , Bob Hinden References: <2F668C32-9708-4495-997B-F85FDFF29726@gmail.com> <574F0705.2000100@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <574F0705.2000100@tzi.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AsFFgCpiNqD9t2tQr8USBIi3aODv8B20k" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.235.150.134 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: akatlas@gmail.com, tools-discuss@ietf.org, bob.hinden@gmail.com, cabo@tzi.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org, Alia Atlas Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 16:55:48 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --AsFFgCpiNqD9t2tQr8USBIi3aODv8B20k Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-06-01 18:02, Carsten Bormann wrote: > Where does this come from: >=20 > https://tools.ietf.org/photo/bormann-carsten.jpg >=20 > (As seen e.g. in > https://tools.ietf.org/wg/core > )? It comes from the photo collection started by the secretariat a few years ago. I believe the same collection provides photos for https://www.ietf.org/wg/chair-photos.html . Best, Henrik > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >=20 > Bob Hinden wrote: >> Alia, >>=20 >> I like the idea of including a picture. >>=20 >> Bob >>=20 >>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Alia Atlas wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with= a person's profile in datatracker? >>> >>> I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging= from showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to = look someone up by name and seeing their picture. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Alia >>> -- >>> Tools-discuss mailing list >>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>> >>> Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tool= s/ietfdb >>> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issu= es or >>> send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >>=20 >=20 --AsFFgCpiNqD9t2tQr8USBIi3aODv8B20k Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXTxOJAAoJEE6bV0uPuxca52sP/0dgIzesnVGrzTYRblNYxI+H rB/AxlTrqm+BsdehxwGH51DDvo34Sc2itIF2Cu4ShHyTllMZdMU9gM+1xgYhyhyb Z27m6REXULr+6TSZ576eVlrdHPJtZmH74BJlb6KpAFV5UUHfv0Cf69e05j7+BBP6 1ZKIcVe4J8Ia40PttzOGiZ9itPt2smAg8O8JOqtQek7D52GkQ7f1vmIMma2rgvHs /YAOC6hHqFYjOv9b/9HwiIj3uwguxdAbbPSDmzg0r+wiwZAxg/4ICkvHm7Xuk94L Peb/wtwaj8QVzmP+DRlZm8zFZST2drr0OZ+X7rpdRg/2DPR5kh7KOvaSsaLGhHJ4 hx2/CkJJ8EMDAySVCMaNXlYx8gNACEx8o55z0qdZq4wyEuZ7BswQRMJKYekzOKSW aA7Cxu/tOPs5o7O2b2y0bWEYzQPNfbEX+yggjwx2pGE8p97eUOXHeYyfPGVVZqnm BirID75kb2MWoCNlIO/DYdubWmLPygBF984jyc+hXrI35bjh4ndnaWocBsoC+ElJ k6AL3BvpaBWmYDVi3utbk5QojasoABRubcHZhI8vPJWiqz3Krpeeewr26SnlmB0C MH4RY0N9zOALfdYLtbrZEZrkXvY0Gzgf6zzOHa2pqujROAeNgtsXb4p7HjNtGY5y Gyh5/W7nhN8RMeyyFmFq =C36P -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AsFFgCpiNqD9t2tQr8USBIi3aODv8B20k-- From nobody Wed Jun 1 10:14:32 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DA8B12D0E5 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:14:31 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.326 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.326 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QxjcXfVKDsY5 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E06F12B04D for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Orochi.local (99-152-145-110.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.145.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u51HEO77027073 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:14:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host 99-152-145-110.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.145.110] claimed to be Orochi.local To: Henrik Levkowetz , Alia Atlas , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <574F11E2.4020806@levkowetz.com> From: Adam Roach Message-ID: <0dfd5050-0518-f9e2-6aa7-b2c3ffc4aee8@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:14:24 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <574F11E2.4020806@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:14:31 -0000 On 6/1/16 11:48, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Basic image and bio information support > for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with) > should come in with the next minor release Have you considered using gravitar for the profile photos? Many people already have them set up, so you'd get a jump start on populating the database (e.g., looking just at this thread: Carsten, Henrik and I already have one set up). Also, it would save you the trouble of storing the photos yourself and writing an interface to manage them. 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X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:15:00 -0000 --001a114e419efde16f05343aa069 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Fred Baker (fred) wrote: > > > On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Alia Atlas wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a > person's profile in datatracker? > > Define "profile"? I could imagine their bio ("Alia is an AD, works for > ...") or something more automated such as Jari's pages. In datatracker, it > might be interesting to be able to enter a person's name or email and see > what links to their active IDs and working groups, and an RFC and expired > ID history for them. I was starting small - with adding an option associated the datatracker profile, so that at least the information was there. I totally agree that having the ability to see active IDs and WGs and so on would be really nice. It'd also be very useful to be able to see a list of people (with pictures) who are "active" in a working group - having sent email to the mailing list in the last year, having an active draft targeted at the WG, etc. But the first steps, of course, are getting the pictures and other information in. Regards, Alia > > I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging > from showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to > look someone up by name and seeing their picture. > > > > Thanks, > > Alia > > -- > > Tools-discuss mailing list > > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or > > send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > > --001a114e419efde16f05343aa069 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On W= ed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:16 PM, Fred Baker (fred) <fred@cisco.com>= wrote:

> On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Alia Atlas <akatlas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with = a person's profile in datatracker?

Define "profile"? I could imagine their bio ("Alia is= an AD, works for ...") or something more automated such as Jari's= pages. In datatracker, it might be interesting to be able to enter a perso= n's name or email and see what links to their active IDs and working gr= oups, and an RFC and expired ID history for them.

I was starting small - with adding an option associated the datatrac= ker profile, so that at least the information was there.

I totally agree that having the ability to see active IDs and WGs an= d so on would be really nice.
It'd also be very useful to be = able to see a list of people (with pictures) who are "active" in = a working group - having sent email to the mailing list in the last year, h= aving an active draft targeted at the WG, etc.=C2=A0

But the first steps, of course, are getting the pictures and other infor= mation in.

Regards,
Alia
=C2= =A0
> I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging = from showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to= look someone up by name and seeing their picture.
>
> Thanks,
> Alia

--001a114e419efde16f05343aa069-- From nobody Wed Jun 1 10:16:09 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA0E12D15F for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:16:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -102.699 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.699 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A00QOPx-Uzni for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-yw0-x22d.google.com (mail-yw0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBC7D12D09A for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:16:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yw0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id c127so24896095ywb.1 for ; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 10:16:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=4ngW8s2z7WELs7xkNMplU1T+TyKZiLbaofW27ivrDn8=; b=fozFQAFJP9FCWbRMsPMTaKfu9h6Gsnwm1kJ1lQUDgIst//C89LuNJrYWjMBo/FBCh+ e8Q53MyZxb99fufwQ2QIp9Tagh0f9rqzo8G/ZbWxXKQvoalbfbWYWO+Nk+PkQSYSGUNe CsDxcqYrk7eQAlje1CMf1r867V6TA3Ljb4P/t+gmKSOfW7NHLUXX9a2CxGygrV7Dqrvn +jiRJn4HHQKK/kUWiQ+CLcw91EZ08LogswBz/vpy+Z+HUQFJnWPh6p83cdcyMXgkNqqA BDy77qlVjgP0MPCtjnWlewHkWRd3k4W1n/oRRCuycIjYasUHvsJyj5E/uI7LuW6k/WRz e0lg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=4ngW8s2z7WELs7xkNMplU1T+TyKZiLbaofW27ivrDn8=; b=RKQzrBz7qN1i6n3Cf2P8UCir17ASw6wHqmOSISm91nE3NnVWMIQHngQ17IH3yemQdT P88d6ho1OMuXuiogab8d8dBSah8Lh9wF6LFGrC/sV6JnBDUoulhwvnMj8PWaIIt/FGNh R9s4ltp1JL2QjCHzVkA7w5lv/n8Vri/qYPQpBHh+aU8QWjxqSlvgKDVgGSNblNmspDcq Tn5D/JaaiGVm5Mp9OPjgqvhu4QXLAoXcMfok1zU0NKH4S0ydWxvIMhiaCOcMu+butYim JsYauae5phpzY0i7ih9C0sQS4PzASQpVDQZ1zOGshm3Np0bDZeLWeQt594wrHQ6fWBsj u/wQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJZiwDruBiBB3NsIctmDAJPZOrZOHuVI2c4JPq9WpHJxpjWB9gYPiVcpXAibisobBlniw/vvigkerzpWQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.89.212 with SMTP id n203mr3353251ywb.102.1464801365221; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 10:16:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.13.221.74 with HTTP; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:16:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <574F11E2.4020806@levkowetz.com> References: <574F11E2.4020806@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 13:16:05 -0400 Message-ID: From: Alia Atlas To: Henrik Levkowetz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114916440a6b7d05343aa5a3 Archived-At: Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:16:08 -0000 --001a114916440a6b7d05343aa5a3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Henrik, That's excellent to hear. I know there was a thread on wgchairs about how it'd be useful. How soon will it be possible to have an arbitrary person upload their image? Thanks, Alia On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Alia, > > On 2016-06-01 17:54, Alia Atlas wrote: > > Hi, > > > > How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a > > person's profile in datatracker? > > > > I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging > from > > showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to look > > someone up by name and seeing their picture. > > Funny you should ask that now. We've started that work; Robert has > added database fields and a proof-of-concept picture page, and I've > continued from there today. Basic image and bio information support > for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with) > should come in with the next minor release; I expect there will be > various enhancements in line with suggestions in this thread coming > in during the following few releases. > > > Best regards, > > Henrik > > --001a114916440a6b7d05343aa5a3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Henrik,

That's excellent to hear= .=C2=A0 I know there was a thread on wgchairs about how it'd be useful.=
How soon will it be possible to have an arbitrary person upload = their image?


Thanks,
Alia=

On We= d, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com= > wrote:
Hi Alia,

On 2016-06-01 17:54, Alia Atlas wrote:
> Hi,
>
> How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with = a
> person's profile in datatracker?
>
> I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging = from
> showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to= look
> someone up by name and seeing their picture.

Funny you should ask that now.=C2=A0 We've started that work; Ro= bert has
added database fields and a proof-of-concept picture page, and I've
continued from there today.=C2=A0 Basic image and bio information support for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with)
should come in with the next minor release; I expect there will be
various enhancements in line with suggestions in this thread coming
in during the following few releases.


Best regards,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Henrik


--001a114916440a6b7d05343aa5a3-- From nobody Wed Jun 1 10:20:35 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5FCB12D530 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:20:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UJwNB19tHfEZ for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 17C3F12B04D for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:20:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 81-235-150-134-no105.tbcn.telia.com ([81.235.150.134]:57122 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1b89ok-0000OY-I7; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 10:20:30 -0700 Message-ID: <574F1957.5060606@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 19:20:23 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Carsten Bormann , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <2F668C32-9708-4495-997B-F85FDFF29726@gmail.com> <574F0705.2000100@tzi.org> <574F079D.2000402@tzi.org> In-Reply-To: <574F079D.2000402@tzi.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ApR5irTrGiAp7eSq4eJsQGeCdwMDUx8PR" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.235.150.134 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, cabo@tzi.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:20:34 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --ApR5irTrGiAp7eSq4eJsQGeCdwMDUx8PR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Carsten, On 2016-06-01 18:04, Carsten Bormann wrote: > (And why is Jaime's photo not shown in > https://tools.ietf.org/wg/core > ? There is an > http://www.ietf.org/wg/images/jimenez-jaime.jpg > Hmm.) Incomplete rsync. Fixed on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org now; the others are in progress. Best, Henrik >=20 > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >=20 >=20 > Carsten Bormann wrote: >> Where does this come from: >>=20 >> https://tools.ietf.org/photo/bormann-carsten.jpg >>=20 >> (As seen e.g. in >> https://tools.ietf.org/wg/core >> )? >>=20 >> Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe, Carsten >>=20 >> Bob Hinden wrote: >>> Alia, >>> >>> I like the idea of including a picture. >>> >>> Bob >>> >>>> On Jun 1, 2016, at 8:54 AM, Alia Atlas wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image wit= h a person's profile in datatracker? >>>> >>>> I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - rangin= g from showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to= look someone up by name and seeing their picture. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alia >>>> -- >>>> Tools-discuss mailing list >>>> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >>>> >>>> Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/too= ls/ietfdb >>>> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/iss= ues or >>>> send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >>=20 >=20 --ApR5irTrGiAp7eSq4eJsQGeCdwMDUx8PR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXTxlYAAoJEE6bV0uPuxca12EP/jpSire5uqbupJWQMyB+dW6B 3HIRUXNtf40ZdxP1DpKhK5osMecGG0AfysPVbKfr6B/gqoNIgbf5eI2FLDw0A5ZB eOHflXs8dvfXPZX+92SxYvoAZRhPH+3knPqv6kCV/Peeop7myx763o8k6TyL/XvX gmUiO93UdbIJOU4Hj3yxssYE+PyopMczbdctMnvGa8aXwSJTX7DoAw0EGRvo4K6W kHySHBHG/aVFuWWe3pmcOJpKf0jIXuMcH732MikcQMY2sR8U01tfjVsjexvKHzLl 3v88a/UEPjyW8a6sHkRzODNXhMM9bubqeufaX0A+JOfCWmebe8R/qWzFN/ZHErbx gCGhWwU6gU5qVoOci7U6XxrutWur2yxagV2GcibML52IqtRp+a1oY+SExpdL44eJ Bhl7rUfrCcjme1HKzuzIAKA/iRaUPld7mt8MoRSKnMsX9mDn85+xvJJWw5COFVCw vEfNW15F31C9SyMqsnDxfxCb27/dBSiTYfOBAexaMszUbHC2Mlqol18EJ8hEGtuW QVVdB6iQQPjRWLSa1fD/UPpyLgIAI6p8P08m0pOEmpEKwe29Vu6P4Y4yX7alTPEG t6Gi5eqF9qbVzWmQ85XLaLyRqRd9iFaEiIEVJcA9H9PQXJUE/J1RwBUHt1OxhsQe /ASNINwSn7QYSBxAM01o =fpRY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ApR5irTrGiAp7eSq4eJsQGeCdwMDUx8PR-- From nobody Wed Jun 1 10:24:18 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C8F212D530 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:24:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PhFP8-HEzebl for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40AC612B04D for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 81-235-150-134-no105.tbcn.telia.com ([81.235.150.134]:57245 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1b89sJ-0002nX-Gb; Wed, 01 Jun 2016 10:24:11 -0700 Message-ID: <574F1A34.3010104@levkowetz.com> Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 19:24:04 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Adam Roach , Alia Atlas , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <574F11E2.4020806@levkowetz.com> <0dfd5050-0518-f9e2-6aa7-b2c3ffc4aee8@nostrum.com> In-Reply-To: <0dfd5050-0518-f9e2-6aa7-b2c3ffc4aee8@nostrum.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="591SxXDwisAQpfGPeSA2ErJT3SbsiFQx2" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.235.150.134 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, akatlas@gmail.com, adam@nostrum.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:24:15 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --591SxXDwisAQpfGPeSA2ErJT3SbsiFQx2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-06-01 19:14, Adam Roach wrote: > On 6/1/16 11:48, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Basic image and bio information support >> for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with) >> should come in with the next minor release >=20 >=20 > Have you considered using gravitar for the profile photos? Many people = > already have them set up, so you'd get a jump start on populating the=20 > database (e.g., looking just at this thread: Carsten, Henrik and I=20 > already have one set up). Also, it would save you the trouble of storin= g=20 > the photos yourself and writing an interface to manage them. >=20 > See https://en.gravatar.com/site/implement/ Good point. Will put the basics in place (db schema, photo page) and release, then look at adding gravatar support. 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X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:25:48 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --IjNQqBrF1e83b3kOPw03foxcU9iadLHpN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-06-01 19:16, Alia Atlas wrote: > Hi Henrik, >=20 > That's excellent to hear. I know there was a thread on wgchairs about = how > it'd be useful. > How soon will it be possible to have an arbitrary person upload their i= mage? That's not planned for the initial release, but shouldn't be hard. I guess we'll have that in place before Berlin, maybe with Gravatar support= , too. Best, Henrik > Thanks, > Alia >=20 > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Henrik Levkowetz > wrote: >=20 >> Hi Alia, >> >> On 2016-06-01 17:54, Alia Atlas wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image wit= h a >> > person's profile in datatracker? >> > >> > I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - rangin= g >> from >> > showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to l= ook >> > someone up by name and seeing their picture. >> >> Funny you should ask that now. We've started that work; Robert has >> added database fields and a proof-of-concept picture page, and I've >> continued from there today. Basic image and bio information support >> for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with) >> should come in with the next minor release; I expect there will be >> various enhancements in line with suggestions in this thread coming >> in during the following few releases. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Henrik >> >> >=20 --IjNQqBrF1e83b3kOPw03foxcU9iadLHpN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXTxqSAAoJEE6bV0uPuxca0oEP/3kExTMGz3jhxXWPtC3sZ1zl E5w9Lhmz+QqbA4KFupjp2+XrlUOV/kaloMP1YhM1BPRRKfhl+10iOWvFBhia0Rgu awE0vl/2Os1TiTaxJ0s9A7o1wdrcclO7ERNgGfC/E4jTaEWuD5Y7IYDrA+//i8/7 Dv1+Gr+iTIHZR0KrSaMVbaetGvpWNHxY3xAqYLUOztFZxLT6CoM40SfFxZN0Mi1B ceixGd4idJbgso7467uXcSIehVZuFDx9cVuRHluBaKLsoNoxI0XEMi+KkIt10kjD ViVBP+9eH82ykrxYT83Tf6pXHYQKA2KFAUplupKpcG9D+/X/WJaIfLLnFUQ/zHoA DKkI06FfUd/T06RLFM/IK8lFRIyKaXJVNauKLYJ6BYAqs4Bxs/ib9wFSzLG7YZXk 8G5d5nkQu+d75C8+JsbsU27DfkOFRzHB+48sYzul2+aNZv580INwbxDtX9KuFy5H VetU2n43hDtKd/wO0jRenIcfrDut2X6jrHlUrCi/EwugqXChObs9mrJjfOgRk16S lafKd0wzdOiG7WKBAeEPlO7Kg/pvaI8sGhBumLYSL/c6z7ual7eu3FmggXjEfvud 3F4g+KUfjNVLdmmI3RMZX01ziQwn2Fznkb6GjSylKISd3yn9T1GIZ+TynnD8S5QI xk7XfZvcuE5qC5/kmjMo =t/Sp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --IjNQqBrF1e83b3kOPw03foxcU9iadLHpN-- From nobody Wed Jun 1 10:47:44 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F38712D539 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:47:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.325 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.325 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LSydmcKoKjyP for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04B2412D09D for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local (inet-141-146-6-188.oracle.com [137.254.4.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u51HldTm030073 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK) for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:47:40 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host inet-141-146-6-188.oracle.com [137.254.4.60] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <574F11E2.4020806@levkowetz.com> <574F1A92.6060904@levkowetz.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <9887f890-3cc0-e251-ef31-66502b283a11@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 13:47:34 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <574F1A92.6060904@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------0677D7ECF6CA5909E4E3F8F3" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:47:43 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------0677D7ECF6CA5909E4E3F8F3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We need to carefully discuss "arbitrary person". My recommendation is to provide the ability to self-provision initially to someone with a Role in the tracker (wg shepherd, chair, whatever), then incrementally expand that (to document authors for example). We have a fresh wave of motivated people creating spam accounts, and the storage for what can be provided as photos or bios is not small. RjS On 6/1/16 1:25 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > On 2016-06-01 19:16, Alia Atlas wrote: >> Hi Henrik, >> >> That's excellent to hear. I know there was a thread on wgchairs about how >> it'd be useful. >> How soon will it be possible to have an arbitrary person upload their image? > That's not planned for the initial release, but shouldn't be hard. I > guess we'll have that in place before Berlin, maybe with Gravatar support, > too. > > > Best, > > Henrik > >> Thanks, >> Alia >> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Henrik Levkowetz >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Alia, >>> >>> On 2016-06-01 17:54, Alia Atlas wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a >>>> person's profile in datatracker? >>>> >>>> I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging >>> from >>>> showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to look >>>> someone up by name and seeing their picture. >>> Funny you should ask that now. We've started that work; Robert has >>> added database fields and a proof-of-concept picture page, and I've >>> continued from there today. Basic image and bio information support >>> for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with) >>> should come in with the next minor release; I expect there will be >>> various enhancements in line with suggestions in this thread coming >>> in during the following few releases. >>> >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Henrik >>> >>> > > --------------0677D7ECF6CA5909E4E3F8F3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

We need to carefully discuss "arbitrary person".

My recommendation is to provide the ability to self-provision initially to someone with a Role in the tracker (wg shepherd, chair, whatever), then incrementally expand that (to document authors for example). We have a fresh wave of motivated people creating spam accounts, and the storage for what can be provided as photos or bios is not small.

RjS

On 6/1/16 1:25 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
On 2016-06-01 19:16, Alia Atlas wrote:
Hi Henrik,

That's excellent to hear.  I know there was a thread on wgchairs about how
it'd be useful.
How soon will it be possible to have an arbitrary person upload their image?
That's not planned for the initial release, but shouldn't be hard.  I
guess we'll have that in place before Berlin, maybe with Gravatar support,
too.


Best,

	Henrik

Thanks,
Alia

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>
wrote:

Hi Alia,

On 2016-06-01 17:54, Alia Atlas wrote:
Hi,

How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a
person's profile in datatracker?

I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging
from
showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to look
someone up by name and seeing their picture.
Funny you should ask that now.  We've started that work; Robert has
added database fields and a proof-of-concept picture page, and I've
continued from there today.  Basic image and bio information support
for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with)
should come in with the next minor release; I expect there will be
various enhancements in line with suggestions in this thread coming
in during the following few releases.


Best regards,

        Henrik



      

      


--------------0677D7ECF6CA5909E4E3F8F3-- From nobody Wed Jun 1 10:57:26 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31AD112D1AF for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:57:25 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.325 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.325 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id SKB7FhVdSoSz for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CC3C12D0A4 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Svantevit.roach.at (cpe-70-122-154-80.tx.res.rr.com [70.122.154.80]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u51HvMDM030817 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:57:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host cpe-70-122-154-80.tx.res.rr.com [70.122.154.80] claimed to be Svantevit.roach.at To: Robert Sparks , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <574F11E2.4020806@levkowetz.com> <574F1A92.6060904@levkowetz.com> <9887f890-3cc0-e251-ef31-66502b283a11@nostrum.com> From: Adam Roach Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 12:57:16 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9887f890-3cc0-e251-ef31-66502b283a11@nostrum.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------82090A19FE4583495372FC4A" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:57:25 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------82090A19FE4583495372FC4A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is really only true if we decide to approach the task as a wheel-reinventing exercise. As I mentioned before, we can completely offload the management and storage of profile pictures, and get a jump-start on populating the database to boot. Anyone inclined to upload profile information is virtually guaranteed to have an online profile somewhere (e.g. on a university website, linkedin, etc) that we can link to. Simply allowing users to add a single "profile" URL to be associated with their account neatly sidesteps the issue you highlight. For my own part, I don't think I'm likely to keep my ietf.org profile up to date -- but if I can point it to LinkedIn, it'll stay current. I suspect many others fall in the same boat. /a On 6/1/16 12:47 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > > We need to carefully discuss "arbitrary person". > > My recommendation is to provide the ability to self-provision > initially to someone with a Role in the tracker (wg shepherd, chair, > whatever), then incrementally expand that (to document authors for > example). We have a fresh wave of motivated people creating spam > accounts, and the storage for what can be provided as photos or bios > is not small. > > RjS > > On 6/1/16 1:25 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> On 2016-06-01 19:16, Alia Atlas wrote: >>> Hi Henrik, >>> >>> That's excellent to hear. I know there was a thread on wgchairs about how >>> it'd be useful. >>> How soon will it be possible to have an arbitrary person upload their image? >> That's not planned for the initial release, but shouldn't be hard. I >> guess we'll have that in place before Berlin, maybe with Gravatar support, >> too. >> >> >> Best, >> >> Henrik >> >>> Thanks, >>> Alia >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Henrik Levkowetz >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Alia, >>>> >>>> On 2016-06-01 17:54, Alia Atlas wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a >>>>> person's profile in datatracker? >>>>> >>>>> I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging >>>> from >>>>> showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to look >>>>> someone up by name and seeing their picture. >>>> Funny you should ask that now. We've started that work; Robert has >>>> added database fields and a proof-of-concept picture page, and I've >>>> continued from there today. Basic image and bio information support >>>> for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with) >>>> should come in with the next minor release; I expect there will be >>>> various enhancements in line with suggestions in this thread coming >>>> in during the following few releases. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Henrik >>>> >>>> >> >> > > > --------------82090A19FE4583495372FC4A Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
This is really only true if we decide to approach the task as a wheel-reinventing exercise.

As I mentioned before, we can completely offload the management and storage of profile pictures, and get a jump-start on populating the database to boot.

Anyone inclined to upload profile information is virtually guaranteed to have an online profile somewhere (e.g. on a university website, linkedin, etc) that we can link to. Simply allowing users to add a single "profile" URL to be associated with their account neatly sidesteps the issue you highlight.

For my own part, I don't think I'm likely to keep my ietf.org profile up to date -- but if I can point it to LinkedIn, it'll stay current. I suspect many others fall in the same boat.

/a

On 6/1/16 12:47 PM, Robert Sparks wrote:

We need to carefully discuss "arbitrary person".

My recommendation is to provide the ability to self-provision initially to someone with a Role in the tracker (wg shepherd, chair, whatever), then incrementally expand that (to document authors for example). We have a fresh wave of motivated people creating spam accounts, and the storage for what can be provided as photos or bios is not small.

RjS

On 6/1/16 1:25 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
On 2016-06-01 19:16, Alia Atlas wrote:
Hi Henrik,

That's excellent to hear.  I know there was a thread on wgchairs about how
it'd be useful.
How soon will it be possible to have an arbitrary person upload their image?
That's not planned for the initial release, but shouldn't be hard.  I
guess we'll have that in place before Berlin, maybe with Gravatar support,
too.


Best,

	Henrik

Thanks,
Alia

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>
wrote:

Hi Alia,

On 2016-06-01 17:54, Alia Atlas wrote:
Hi,

How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a
person's profile in datatracker?

I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging
from
showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to look
someone up by name and seeing their picture.
Funny you should ask that now.  We've started that work; Robert has
added database fields and a proof-of-concept picture page, and I've
continued from there today.  Basic image and bio information support
for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with)
should come in with the next minor release; I expect there will be
various enhancements in line with suggestions in this thread coming
in during the following few releases.


Best regards,

        Henrik








--------------82090A19FE4583495372FC4A-- From nobody Wed Jun 1 10:57:51 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AAAB12D52F for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:57:50 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.602 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.602 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fot9_MKG94HY for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mxout-08.mxes.net (mxout-08.mxes.net [216.86.168.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8D51B12D0A4 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.123.7] (unknown [75.83.2.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8DE3650A73 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 13:57:47 -0400 (EDT) To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <574F11E2.4020806@levkowetz.com> <0dfd5050-0518-f9e2-6aa7-b2c3ffc4aee8@nostrum.com> From: Sean Leonard Message-ID: Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 10:56:15 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <0dfd5050-0518-f9e2-6aa7-b2c3ffc4aee8@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 17:57:50 -0000 On 6/1/2016 10:14 AM, Adam Roach wrote: > On 6/1/16 11:48, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Basic image and bio information support >> for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with) >> should come in with the next minor release > > > Have you considered using gravitar for the profile photos? Many people > already have them set up, so you'd get a jump start on populating the > database (e.g., looking just at this thread: Carsten, Henrik and I > already have one set up). Also, it would save you the trouble of > storing the photos yourself and writing an interface to manage them. > > See https://en.gravatar.com/site/implement/ +1 for Gravatar. Sean From nobody Wed Jun 1 11:02:03 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187A812D1AF for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:02:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.325 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.325 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id KhniHv4kHwHg for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C996112D09D for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 11:01:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unnumerable.local (inet-141-146-6-188.oracle.com [137.254.4.60]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u51I1vE1031210 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=OK); Wed, 1 Jun 2016 13:01:58 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rjsparks@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host inet-141-146-6-188.oracle.com [137.254.4.60] claimed to be unnumerable.local To: Adam Roach , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <574F11E2.4020806@levkowetz.com> <574F1A92.6060904@levkowetz.com> <9887f890-3cc0-e251-ef31-66502b283a11@nostrum.com> From: Robert Sparks Message-ID: <6e6604ce-78f1-a523-7f6a-b2aef3485803@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:01:51 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D97D617F9959D1A5F0987E1D" Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 18:02:01 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D97D617F9959D1A5F0987E1D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 6/1/16 1:57 PM, Adam Roach wrote: > This is really only true if we decide to approach the task as a > wheel-reinventing exercise. > > As I mentioned before, we can completely offload the management and > storage of profile pictures, and get a jump-start on populating the > database to boot. > > Anyone inclined to upload profile information is virtually guaranteed > to have an online profile somewhere (e.g. on a university website, > linkedin, etc) that we can link to. Simply allowing users to add a > single "profile" URL to be associated with their account neatly > sidesteps the issue you highlight. > > For my own part, I don't think I'm likely to keep my ietf.org profile > up to date -- but if I can point it to LinkedIn, it'll stay current. I > suspect many others fall in the same boat. So, one of the goals is to automate the generation of pages like this: http://www.ietf.org/iesg/members.html and https://www.iab.org/about/iab-members/ Where the bio is likely to be more tailored than what would appear at LinkedIn. > > /a > > On 6/1/16 12:47 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> >> We need to carefully discuss "arbitrary person". >> >> My recommendation is to provide the ability to self-provision >> initially to someone with a Role in the tracker (wg shepherd, chair, >> whatever), then incrementally expand that (to document authors for >> example). We have a fresh wave of motivated people creating spam >> accounts, and the storage for what can be provided as photos or bios >> is not small. >> >> RjS >> >> On 6/1/16 1:25 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>> On 2016-06-01 19:16, Alia Atlas wrote: >>>> Hi Henrik, >>>> >>>> That's excellent to hear. I know there was a thread on wgchairs about how >>>> it'd be useful. >>>> How soon will it be possible to have an arbitrary person upload their image? >>> That's not planned for the initial release, but shouldn't be hard. I >>> guess we'll have that in place before Berlin, maybe with Gravatar support, >>> too. >>> >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Henrik >>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Alia >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Henrik Levkowetz >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Alia, >>>>> >>>>> On 2016-06-01 17:54, Alia Atlas wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a >>>>>> person's profile in datatracker? >>>>>> >>>>>> I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging >>>>> from >>>>>> showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to look >>>>>> someone up by name and seeing their picture. >>>>> Funny you should ask that now. We've started that work; Robert has >>>>> added database fields and a proof-of-concept picture page, and I've >>>>> continued from there today. Basic image and bio information support >>>>> for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with) >>>>> should come in with the next minor release; I expect there will be >>>>> various enhancements in line with suggestions in this thread coming >>>>> in during the following few releases. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Best regards, >>>>> >>>>> Henrik >>>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > --------------D97D617F9959D1A5F0987E1D Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit



On 6/1/16 1:57 PM, Adam Roach wrote:
This is really only true if we decide to approach the task as a wheel-reinventing exercise.

As I mentioned before, we can completely offload the management and storage of profile pictures, and get a jump-start on populating the database to boot.

Anyone inclined to upload profile information is virtually guaranteed to have an online profile somewhere (e.g. on a university website, linkedin, etc) that we can link to. Simply allowing users to add a single "profile" URL to be associated with their account neatly sidesteps the issue you highlight.

For my own part, I don't think I'm likely to keep my ietf.org profile up to date -- but if I can point it to LinkedIn, it'll stay current. I suspect many others fall in the same boat.
So, one of the goals is to automate the generation of pages like this:
http://www.ietf.org/iesg/members.html
and
https://www.iab.org/about/iab-members/

Where the bio is likely to be more tailored than what would appear at LinkedIn.


/a

On 6/1/16 12:47 PM, Robert Sparks wrote:

We need to carefully discuss "arbitrary person".

My recommendation is to provide the ability to self-provision initially to someone with a Role in the tracker (wg shepherd, chair, whatever), then incrementally expand that (to document authors for example). We have a fresh wave of motivated people creating spam accounts, and the storage for what can be provided as photos or bios is not small.

RjS

On 6/1/16 1:25 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
On 2016-06-01 19:16, Alia Atlas wrote:
Hi Henrik,

That's excellent to hear.  I know there was a thread on wgchairs about how
it'd be useful.
How soon will it be possible to have an arbitrary person upload their image?
That's not planned for the initial release, but shouldn't be hard.  I
guess we'll have that in place before Berlin, maybe with Gravatar support,
too.


Best,

	Henrik

Thanks,
Alia

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>
wrote:

Hi Alia,

On 2016-06-01 17:54, Alia Atlas wrote:
Hi,

How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a
person's profile in datatracker?

I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging
from
showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to look
someone up by name and seeing their picture.
Funny you should ask that now.  We've started that work; Robert has
added database fields and a proof-of-concept picture page, and I've
continued from there today.  Basic image and bio information support
for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with)
should come in with the next minor release; I expect there will be
various enhancements in line with suggestions in this thread coming
in during the following few releases.


Best regards,

        Henrik









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X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 20:08:04 -0000 --001a11417df8a8a07705343d0b67 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Gravatar is yet another web bug. Please do not use gravatar. On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > > > On 6/1/16 1:57 PM, Adam Roach wrote: > > This is really only true if we decide to approach the task as a > wheel-reinventing exercise. > > > As I mentioned before, we can completely offload the management and > storage of profile pictures, and get a jump-start on populating the > database to boot. > > Anyone inclined to upload profile information is virtually guaranteed to > have an online profile somewhere (e.g. on a university website, linkedin, > etc) that we can link to. Simply allowing users to add a single "profile" > URL to be associated with their account neatly sidesteps the issue you > highlight. > > For my own part, I don't think I'm likely to keep my ietf.org profile up > to date -- but if I can point it to LinkedIn, it'll stay current. I suspect > many others fall in the same boat. > > So, one of the goals is to automate the generation of pages like this: > http://www.ietf.org/iesg/members.html > and > https://www.iab.org/about/iab-members/ > > Where the bio is likely to be more tailored than what would appear at > LinkedIn. > > > > /a > > On 6/1/16 12:47 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: > > We need to carefully discuss "arbitrary person". > > My recommendation is to provide the ability to self-provision initially to > someone with a Role in the tracker (wg shepherd, chair, whatever), then > incrementally expand that (to document authors for example). We have a > fresh wave of motivated people creating spam accounts, and the storage for > what can be provided as photos or bios is not small. > > RjS > On 6/1/16 1:25 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > > On 2016-06-01 19:16, Alia Atlas wrote: > > Hi Henrik, > > That's excellent to hear. I know there was a thread on wgchairs about how > it'd be useful. > How soon will it be possible to have an arbitrary person upload their image? > > That's not planned for the initial release, but shouldn't be hard. I > guess we'll have that in place before Berlin, maybe with Gravatar support, > too. > > > Best, > > Henrik > > > Thanks, > Alia > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Henrik Levkowetz > wrote: > > > Hi Alia, > > On 2016-06-01 17:54, Alia Atlas wrote: > > Hi, > > How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a > person's profile in datatracker? > > I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging > > from > > showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to look > someone up by name and seeing their picture. > > Funny you should ask that now. We've started that work; Robert has > added database fields and a proof-of-concept picture page, and I've > continued from there today. Basic image and bio information support > for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with) > should come in with the next minor release; I expect there will be > various enhancements in line with suggestions in this thread coming > in during the following few releases. > > > Best regards, > > Henrik > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues or > send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > > --001a11417df8a8a07705343d0b67 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Gravatar is yet another web bug. =C2=A0 Please do not use = gravatar.

On= Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com= > wrote:
=20 =20 =20



On 6/1/16 1:57 PM, Adam Roach wrote:
=20
This is really only true if we decide to approach the task as a wheel-reinventing exercise.

As I mentioned before, we can completely offload the management and storage of profile pictures, and get a jump-start on populating the database to boot.

Anyone inclined to upload profile information is virtually guaranteed to have an online profile somewhere (e.g. on a university website, linkedin, etc) that we can link to. Simply allowing users to add a single "profile" URL to be associ= ated with their account neatly sidesteps the issue you highlight.

For my own part, I don't think I'm likely to keep my ietf.org profile up to date -- but if I can point it to LinkedIn, it'll stay current. I suspect many others fall in the same boat.
So, one of the goals is to automate the generation of pages like this:
htt= p://www.ietf.org/iesg/members.html
and
ht= tps://www.iab.org/about/iab-members/

Where the bio is likely to be more tailored than what would appear at LinkedIn.



/a

On 6/1/16 12:47 PM, Robert Sparks wrote:
=20

We need to carefully discuss "arbitrary person".

My recommendation is to provide the ability to self-provision initially to someone with a Role in the tracker (wg shepherd, chair, whatever), then incrementally expand that (to document authors for example). We have a fresh wave of motivated people creating spam accounts, and the storage for what can be provided as photos or bios is not small.

RjS

On 6/1/16 1:25 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
On 2016-06-01 19:16, Alia Atlas wrote:
Hi Henrik,

That's excellent to hear.  I know there was a thread on wgchairs about =
how
it'd be useful.
How soon will it be possible to have an arbitrary person upload their image=
?
That's not planned for the initial release, but shouldn&=
#39;t be hard.  I
guess we'll have that in place before Berlin, maybe with Gravatar suppo=
rt,
too.


Best,

	Henrik

Thanks,
Alia

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>
wrote:

Hi Alia,

On 2016-06-01 17:54, Alia Atlas wrote:
Hi,

How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a
person's profile in datatracker?

I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging
from
showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters =
to being able to look
someone up by name and seeing their picture.
Funny you should ask that now.  We've started that w=
ork; Robert has
added database fields and a proof-of-concept picture page, and I've
continued from there today.  Basic image and bio information support
for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with)
should come in with the next minor release; I expect there will be
various enhancements in line with suggestions in this thread coming
in during the following few releases.


Best regards,

        Henrik










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X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 20:44:31 -0000 On 02/06/2016 05:47, Robert Sparks wrote: > We need to carefully discuss "arbitrary person". One of the goals here, which came out of some discussion among the EDU and mentoring teams, is to make current participants more accesible to newcomers (and each other) without depending so much on meeting attendance to form relationships. Therefore, it isn't "arbitrary person". It's "IETF participant". > My recommendation is to provide the ability to self-provision initially to someone with a Role in the tracker (wg shepherd, > chair, whatever), then incrementally expand that (to document authors for example). That's too restrictive for the purpose. > We have a fresh wave of motivated people > creating spam accounts, and the storage for what can be provided as photos or bios is not small. Clearly we need to have ways of declining spam registrations in any case. But just to make your concern worse, some people would like to suggest brief self-introduction videos as well. Brian > RjS > > On 6/1/16 1:25 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> On 2016-06-01 19:16, Alia Atlas wrote: >>> Hi Henrik, >>> >>> That's excellent to hear. I know there was a thread on wgchairs about how >>> it'd be useful. >>> How soon will it be possible to have an arbitrary person upload their image? >> That's not planned for the initial release, but shouldn't be hard. I >> guess we'll have that in place before Berlin, maybe with Gravatar support, >> too. >> >> >> Best, >> >> Henrik >> >>> Thanks, >>> Alia >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Henrik Levkowetz >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Alia, >>>> >>>> On 2016-06-01 17:54, Alia Atlas wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a >>>>> person's profile in datatracker? >>>>> >>>>> I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging >>>> from >>>>> showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to look >>>>> someone up by name and seeing their picture. >>>> Funny you should ask that now. We've started that work; Robert has >>>> added database fields and a proof-of-concept picture page, and I've >>>> continued from there today. Basic image and bio information support >>>> for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with) >>>> should come in with the next minor release; I expect there will be >>>> various enhancements in line with suggestions in this thread coming >>>> in during the following few releases. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> >>>> Henrik >>>> >>>> >> >> > > > > From nobody Wed Jun 1 14:05:28 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CCB12B01F for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:05:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.325 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.325 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vI09a3eqG2c6 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 244EC12D600 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:05:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Orochi.local (99-152-145-110.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.145.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u51L5L66097403 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 1 Jun 2016 16:05:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host 99-152-145-110.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.145.110] claimed to be Orochi.local To: Ted Lemon , Robert Sparks References: <574F11E2.4020806@levkowetz.com> <574F1A92.6060904@levkowetz.com> <9887f890-3cc0-e251-ef31-66502b283a11@nostrum.com> <6e6604ce-78f1-a523-7f6a-b2aef3485803@nostrum.com> From: Adam Roach Message-ID: <66d95480-26c6-974e-2a0f-79303e8439aa@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 16:05:21 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------DFE4B45215EE3FE355FEABBE" Archived-At: Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 21:05:28 -0000 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------DFE4B45215EE3FE355FEABBE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I understand what you mean in terms of Gravatar getting pings from multiple websites, and that this would put them in a position to potentially track browsing patterns. However. Automattic (Gravatar's parent) has a privacy policy that says all the right things. Check it out for yourself: https://automattic.com/privacy/ Believe me, web tracking technologies are something that I'm pretty sensitive to. I've looked into Gravatar pretty closely in the past, and am personally quite comfortable with how they operate. That said, if you have non-theoretical concerns with Gravatar's operating procedures, I'd love for you to share pointers. We use it for a handful of things at Mozilla (including some that are exposed to Firefox users), with full sign-off from our privacy team. If you know something they don't, I should share it with them so we can take appropriate action. /a On 6/1/16 15:07, Ted Lemon wrote: > Gravatar is yet another web bug. Please do not use gravatar. > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Robert Sparks > wrote: > > > > On 6/1/16 1:57 PM, Adam Roach wrote: >> This is really only true if we decide to approach the task as a >> wheel-reinventing exercise. >> >> As I mentioned before, we can completely offload the management >> and storage of profile pictures, and get a jump-start on >> populating the database to boot. >> >> Anyone inclined to upload profile information is virtually >> guaranteed to have an online profile somewhere (e.g. on a >> university website, linkedin, etc) that we can link to. Simply >> allowing users to add a single "profile" URL to be associated >> with their account neatly sidesteps the issue you highlight. >> >> For my own part, I don't think I'm likely to keep my ietf.org >> profile up to date -- but if I can point it to >> LinkedIn, it'll stay current. I suspect many others fall in the >> same boat. > So, one of the goals is to automate the generation of pages like this: > http://www.ietf.org/iesg/members.html > and > https://www.iab.org/about/iab-members/ > > Where the bio is likely to be more tailored than what would appear > at LinkedIn. > > >> >> /a >> >> On 6/1/16 12:47 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: >>> >>> We need to carefully discuss "arbitrary person". >>> >>> My recommendation is to provide the ability to self-provision >>> initially to someone with a Role in the tracker (wg shepherd, >>> chair, whatever), then incrementally expand that (to document >>> authors for example). We have a fresh wave of motivated people >>> creating spam accounts, and the storage for what can be provided >>> as photos or bios is not small. >>> >>> RjS >>> >>> On 6/1/16 1:25 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>>> On 2016-06-01 19:16, Alia Atlas wrote: >>>>> Hi Henrik, >>>>> >>>>> That's excellent to hear. I know there was a thread on wgchairs about how >>>>> it'd be useful. >>>>> How soon will it be possible to have an arbitrary person upload their image? >>>> That's not planned for the initial release, but shouldn't be hard. I >>>> guess we'll have that in place before Berlin, maybe with Gravatar support, >>>> too. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Henrik >>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Alia >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Henrik Levkowetz >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Alia, >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2016-06-01 17:54, Alia Atlas wrote: >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a >>>>>>> person's profile in datatracker? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging >>>>>> from >>>>>>> showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to look >>>>>>> someone up by name and seeing their picture. >>>>>> Funny you should ask that now. We've started that work; Robert has >>>>>> added database fields and a proof-of-concept picture page, and I've >>>>>> continued from there today. Basic image and bio information support >>>>>> for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with) >>>>>> should come in with the next minor release; I expect there will be >>>>>> various enhancements in line with suggestions in this thread coming >>>>>> in during the following few releases. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Henrik >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues or > send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org > > > --------------DFE4B45215EE3FE355FEABBE Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I understand what you mean in terms of Gravatar getting pings from multiple websites, and that this would put them in a position to potentially track browsing patterns.

However.

Automattic (Gravatar's parent) has a privacy policy that says all the right things. Check it out for yourself: https://automattic.com/privacy/

Believe me, web tracking technologies are something that I'm pretty sensitive to. I've looked into Gravatar pretty closely in the past, and am personally quite comfortable with how they operate.

That said, if you have non-theoretical concerns with Gravatar's operating procedures, I'd love for you to share pointers. We use it for a handful of things at Mozilla (including some that are exposed to Firefox users), with full sign-off from our privacy team. If you know something they don't, I should share it with them so we can take appropriate action.

/a

On 6/1/16 15:07, Ted Lemon wrote:
Gravatar is yet another web bug.   Please do not use gravatar.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:



On 6/1/16 1:57 PM, Adam Roach wrote:
This is really only true if we decide to approach the task as a wheel-reinventing exercise.

As I mentioned before, we can completely offload the management and storage of profile pictures, and get a jump-start on populating the database to boot.

Anyone inclined to upload profile information is virtually guaranteed to have an online profile somewhere (e.g. on a university website, linkedin, etc) that we can link to. Simply allowing users to add a single "profile" URL to be associated with their account neatly sidesteps the issue you highlight.

For my own part, I don't think I'm likely to keep my ietf.org profile up to date -- but if I can point it to LinkedIn, it'll stay current. I suspect many others fall in the same boat.
So, one of the goals is to automate the generation of pages like this:
http://www.ietf.org/iesg/members.html
and
https://www.iab.org/about/iab-members/

Where the bio is likely to be more tailored than what would appear at LinkedIn.



/a

On 6/1/16 12:47 PM, Robert Sparks wrote:

We need to carefully discuss "arbitrary person".

My recommendation is to provide the ability to self-provision initially to someone with a Role in the tracker (wg shepherd, chair, whatever), then incrementally expand that (to document authors for example). We have a fresh wave of motivated people creating spam accounts, and the storage for what can be provided as photos or bios is not small.

RjS

On 6/1/16 1:25 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
On 2016-06-01 19:16, Alia Atlas wrote:
Hi Henrik,

That's excellent to hear.  I know there was a thread on wgchairs about how
it'd be useful.
How soon will it be possible to have an arbitrary person upload their image?
That's not planned for the initial release, but shouldn't be hard.  I
guess we'll have that in place before Berlin, maybe with Gravatar support,
too.


Best,

	Henrik

Thanks,
Alia

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>
wrote:

Hi Alia,

On 2016-06-01 17:54, Alia Atlas wrote:
Hi,

How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a
person's profile in datatracker?

I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging
from
showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to look
someone up by name and seeing their picture.
Funny you should ask that now.  We've started that work; Robert has
added database fields and a proof-of-concept picture page, and I've
continued from there today.  Basic image and bio information support
for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with)
should come in with the next minor release; I expect there will be
various enhancements in line with suggestions in this thread coming
in during the following few releases.


Best regards,

        Henrik










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X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 21:16:01 -0000 --001a11403562a9c39105343dfe9d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 The best privacy policy is the one you don't have to read. My concern isn't with gravatar per se. It's with a design that embeds content that other sites embed. This is just bad privacy hygiene. On Jun 1, 2016 4:05 PM, "Adam Roach" wrote: > I understand what you mean in terms of Gravatar getting pings from > multiple websites, and that this would put them in a position to > potentially track browsing patterns. > > However. > > Automattic (Gravatar's parent) has a privacy policy that says all the > right things. Check it out for yourself: https://automattic.com/privacy/ > > Believe me, web tracking technologies are something that I'm pretty > sensitive to. I've looked into Gravatar pretty closely in the past, and am > personally quite comfortable with how they operate. > > That said, if you have non-theoretical concerns with Gravatar's operating > procedures, I'd love for you to share pointers. We use it for a handful of > things at Mozilla (including some that are exposed to Firefox users), with > full sign-off from our privacy team. If you know something they don't, I > should share it with them so we can take appropriate action. > > /a > > On 6/1/16 15:07, Ted Lemon wrote: > > Gravatar is yet another web bug. Please do not use gravatar. > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Robert Sparks > wrote: > >> >> >> On 6/1/16 1:57 PM, Adam Roach wrote: >> >> This is really only true if we decide to approach the task as a >> wheel-reinventing exercise. >> >> >> As I mentioned before, we can completely offload the management and >> storage of profile pictures, and get a jump-start on populating the >> database to boot. >> >> Anyone inclined to upload profile information is virtually guaranteed to >> have an online profile somewhere (e.g. on a university website, linkedin, >> etc) that we can link to. Simply allowing users to add a single "profile" >> URL to be associated with their account neatly sidesteps the issue you >> highlight. >> >> For my own part, I don't think I'm likely to keep my ietf.org profile up >> to date -- but if I can point it to LinkedIn, it'll stay current. I suspect >> many others fall in the same boat. >> >> So, one of the goals is to automate the generation of pages like this: >> http://www.ietf.org/iesg/members.html >> and >> https://www.iab.org/about/iab-members/ >> >> Where the bio is likely to be more tailored than what would appear at >> LinkedIn. >> >> >> >> /a >> >> On 6/1/16 12:47 PM, Robert Sparks wrote: >> >> We need to carefully discuss "arbitrary person". >> >> My recommendation is to provide the ability to self-provision initially >> to someone with a Role in the tracker (wg shepherd, chair, whatever), then >> incrementally expand that (to document authors for example). We have a >> fresh wave of motivated people creating spam accounts, and the storage for >> what can be provided as photos or bios is not small. >> >> RjS >> On 6/1/16 1:25 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> >> On 2016-06-01 19:16, Alia Atlas wrote: >> >> Hi Henrik, >> >> That's excellent to hear. I know there was a thread on wgchairs about how >> it'd be useful. >> How soon will it be possible to have an arbitrary person upload their image? >> >> That's not planned for the initial release, but shouldn't be hard. I >> guess we'll have that in place before Berlin, maybe with Gravatar support, >> too. >> >> >> Best, >> >> Henrik >> >> >> Thanks, >> Alia >> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Henrik Levkowetz >> wrote: >> >> >> Hi Alia, >> >> On 2016-06-01 17:54, Alia Atlas wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a >> person's profile in datatracker? >> >> I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging >> >> from >> >> showing on a draft's page to being on WG charters to being able to look >> someone up by name and seeing their picture. >> >> Funny you should ask that now. We've started that work; Robert has >> added database fields and a proof-of-concept picture page, and I've >> continued from there today. Basic image and bio information support >> for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with) >> should come in with the next minor release; I expect there will be >> various enhancements in line with suggestions in this thread coming >> in during the following few releases. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Henrik >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Tools-discuss mailing list >> Tools-discuss@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss >> >> Please report datatracker.ietf.org bugs at >> http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb >> Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues >> or >> send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >> >> > > --001a11403562a9c39105343dfe9d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The best privacy policy is the one you don't have to rea= d. My concern isn't with gravatar per se. It's with a design that e= mbeds content that other sites embed. This is just bad privacy hygiene.

On Jun 1, 2016 4:05 PM, "Adam Roach" &= lt;adam@nostrum.com> wrote:
=20 =20 =20
I understand what you mean in terms of Gravatar getting pings from multiple websites, and that this would put them in a position to potentially track browsing patterns.

However.

Automattic (Gravatar's parent) has a privacy policy that says all the right things. Check it out for yourself: https:/= /automattic.com/privacy/

Believe me, web tracking technologies are something that I'm pretty sensitive to. I've looked into Gravatar pretty closely in the past, and am personally quite comfortable with how they operate.

That said, if you have non-theoretical concerns with Gravatar's operating procedures, I'd love for you to share pointers. We use it for a handful of things at Mozilla (including some that are exposed to Firefox users), with full sign-off from our privacy team. If you know something they don't, I should share it with them so we can take appropriate action.

/a

On 6/1/16 15:07, Ted Lemon wrote:
Gravatar is yet another web bug. =C2=A0 Please do no= t use gravatar.

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:01 PM, Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> wrote:



On 6/1/16 1:57 PM, Adam Roach wrote:
This is really only true if we decide to approach the task as a wheel-reinventing exercise.

As I mentioned before, we can completely offload the management and storage of profile pictures, and get a jump-start on populating the database to boot.

Anyone inclined to upload profile information is virtually guaranteed to have an online profile somewhere (e.g. on a university website, linkedin, etc) that we can link to. Simply allowing users to add a single "profile" URL to be associated w= ith their account neatly sidesteps the issue you highlight.

For my own part, I don't think I'm likely to ke= ep my ietf.org<= /a> profile up to date -- but if I can point it to LinkedIn, it'll stay current. I suspect many others fall in the same boat.
So, one of the goals is to automate the generation of pages like this:
http://www.ietf.org/iesg/members.html
and
https://www.iab.org/about/iab-members/

Where the bio is likely to be more tailored than what would appear at LinkedIn.



/a

On 6/1/16 12:47 PM, Robert Sparks wrote:

We need to carefully discuss "arbitrary person".

My recommendation is to provide the ability to self-provision initially to someone with a Role in the tracker (wg shepherd, chair, whatever), then incrementally expand that (to document authors for example). We have a fresh wave of motivated people creating spam accounts, and the storage for what can be provided as photos or bios is not small.

RjS

On 6/1/16 1:25 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote:
On 2016-06-01 19:16, Alia Atlas wrote:
Hi Henrik,

That's excellent to hear.  I know there was a thread on wgchairs about =
how
it'd be useful.
How soon will it be possible to have an arbitrary person upload their image=
?
That's not planned for the initial release=
, but shouldn't be hard.  I
guess we'll have that in place before Berlin, maybe with Gravatar suppo=
rt,
too.


Best,

	Henrik

Thanks,
Alia

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com>
wrote:

Hi Alia,

On 2016-06-01 17:54, Alia Atlas wrote:
Hi,

How easy or hard might it be to add the ability to have an image with a
person's profile in datatracker?

I can come up with several ideas for how they could be used - ranging
from
showing on a draft's page to being o=
n WG charters to being able to look
someone up by name and seeing their picture.
Funny you should ask that now.  We've =
started that work; Robert has
added database fields and a proof-of-concept picture page, and I've
continued from there today.  Basic image and bio information support
for chairs, iesg and iab (managed by the secretariat, to begin with)
should come in with the next minor release; I expect there will be
various enhancements in line with suggestions in this thread coming
in during the following few releases.


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--001a11403562a9c39105343dfe9d-- From nobody Wed Jun 1 14:21:54 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D92CE12D61C for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:21:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -8.326 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-8.326 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JN2ZStEW42ZU for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vapor.isi.edu (vapor.isi.edu [128.9.64.64]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EEF5012D624 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:21:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [128.9.184.178] ([128.9.184.178]) (authenticated bits=0) by vapor.isi.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id u51LL4Z0000892 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT); Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:21:05 -0700 (PDT) To: Adam Roach , Ted Lemon , Robert Sparks References: <574F11E2.4020806@levkowetz.com> <574F1A92.6060904@levkowetz.com> <9887f890-3cc0-e251-ef31-66502b283a11@nostrum.com> <6e6604ce-78f1-a523-7f6a-b2aef3485803@nostrum.com> <66d95480-26c6-974e-2a0f-79303e8439aa@nostrum.com> From: Joe Touch Message-ID: <574F51BE.3050603@isi.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:21:02 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <66d95480-26c6-974e-2a0f-79303e8439aa@nostrum.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ISI-4-43-8-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: touch@isi.edu Archived-At: Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 21:21:40 -0000 On 6/1/2016 2:05 PM, Adam Roach wrote: > That said, if you have non-theoretical concerns with Gravatar's > operating procedures, I'd love for you to share pointers. Unless there's a strict need, we should not require use of such services. Those who want to use gravatar for their photo/icon can - gravatar provides a link for that purpose. There's no reason to tie the IETF boat to gravatar's -- or ANY other cloud-based service. They all track, and, as they said in War Games, the only way to win is not to play. Joe (who doesn't play Facebook, Linkedin, Google, or any other cloud service) PS - privacy policies are worthless. NONE I have ever seen ensure opt-in for future changes, so whatever you read today can change without your knowledge or consent - which means what you read means nothing. From nobody Wed Jun 1 14:28:14 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EB912D0C5 for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:28:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.326 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.326 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 5u8Gdp01tNAb for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostrum.com (raven-v6.nostrum.com [IPv6:2001:470:d:1130::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C897812B01F for ; Wed, 1 Jun 2016 14:28:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Orochi.local (99-152-145-110.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.145.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by nostrum.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id u51LS8ig099355 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 1 Jun 2016 16:28:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from adam@nostrum.com) X-Authentication-Warning: raven.nostrum.com: Host 99-152-145-110.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net [99.152.145.110] claimed to be Orochi.local To: Brian E Carpenter , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <574F11E2.4020806@levkowetz.com> <574F1A92.6060904@levkowetz.com> <9887f890-3cc0-e251-ef31-66502b283a11@nostrum.com> <298cd3cd-ac52-176b-4daa-046a3bb50d32@gmail.com> From: Adam Roach Message-ID: <41180319-8f5e-6b6d-330c-30492090fcd6@nostrum.com> Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2016 16:28:08 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <298cd3cd-ac52-176b-4daa-046a3bb50d32@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] pictures with profiles? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2016 21:28:12 -0000 On 6/1/16 15:37, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > Clearly we need to have ways of declining spam registrations in any case. But just to make > your concern worse, some people would like to suggest brief self-introduction videos as well. Again, these are solved problems. Embedding Youtube videos isn't hard, and there are other services that provide similar functionality. Now, I'll freely admit that Google's properties *do* engage in pretty fine-grain user tracking, by default, so we'd want to take some privacy-related measures (e.g., by using the "youtube-nocookie.com" domain as described here: ). /a From nobody Fri Jun 3 06:17:53 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4079212D182 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 06:17:51 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.107 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.107 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6_4hqc9oGxRi for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 06:17:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cdpipgw02.twcable.com (unknown [165.237.59.23]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8589812D127 for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 06:17:49 -0700 (PDT) X-SENDER-IP: 10.64.163.151 X-SENDER-REPUTATION: None X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.26,412,1459828800"; d="scan'208,217";a="1065481997" Received: from unknown (HELO exchpapp10.corp.twcable.com) ([10.64.163.151]) by cdpipgw02.twcable.com with ESMTP/TLS/AES256-SHA; 03 Jun 2016 09:14:17 -0400 Received: from EXCHPAPP06.corp.twcable.com (10.64.163.147) by exchpapp10.corp.twcable.com (10.64.163.151) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.0.1178.4; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 09:17:34 -0400 Received: from EXCHPAPP06.corp.twcable.com ([10.64.163.147]) by EXCHPAPP06.corp.twcable.com ([10.64.163.147]) with mapi id 15.00.1178.000; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 09:17:34 -0400 From: "George, Wes" To: "tools-discuss@ietf.org" Thread-Topic: imap access for RFC-editor mailing lists? 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Regards, Marc. From nobody Mon Jun 6 10:40:41 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E89012D1D5 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:40:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id We24sWTWni7T for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 30-9-14.wireless.csail.mit.edu (30-9-14.wireless.csail.mit.edu [128.30.9.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F1D12D0A8 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nat-wireless-eduroam-guest-153-28.bu.edu (Postfix, from userid 501) id E880F1E7699; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nat-wireless-eduroam-guest-153-28.bu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46DA41E766A for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:00:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:00:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Samuel Weiler X-X-Sender: weiler@nat-wireless-eduroam-guest-153-28.bu.edu To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (OSX 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] feature request: interim minutes X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 17:40:39 -0000 I'd like to see links to interim minutes on the tools page per WG, perhaps with dates shown: https://www.ietf.org/meeting/interim/proceedings.html From nobody Mon Jun 6 10:50:24 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C55912D0A8 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:50:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NlRTVYuOBpIo for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 30-9-14.wireless.csail.mit.edu (30-9-14.wireless.csail.mit.edu [128.30.9.14]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840CD12D10F for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 10:40:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by nat-wireless-eduroam-guest-153-28.bu.edu (Postfix, from userid 501) id 96D5E1E76AD; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:01:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nat-wireless-eduroam-guest-153-28.bu.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 964A71E76AC for ; Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:01:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2016 13:01:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Samuel Weiler X-X-Sender: weiler@nat-wireless-eduroam-guest-153-28.bu.edu To: tools-discuss@ietf.org Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (OSX 67 2015-01-07) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] "about tools" stale? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 17:50:23 -0000 This page: https://tools.ietf.org/about lists tooks team members from 2007. Perhaps the page needs to be updated or deleted? From nobody Mon Jun 6 14:35:42 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9942012D7E9 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 14:35:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id rf_RdoTROS20 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 14:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B367512D5C6 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 14:35:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 81-235-150-134-no105.tbcn.telia.com ([81.235.150.134]:59037 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bA2BJ-00036W-Ol; Mon, 06 Jun 2016 14:35:34 -0700 Message-ID: <5755EC9E.6040302@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 23:35:26 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Samuel Weiler , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9n72bgRLiEeGDMCWqlWMpC4Id4HLSEWBA" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.235.150.134 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, weiler@watson.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] "about tools" stale? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 21:35:37 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --9n72bgRLiEeGDMCWqlWMpC4Id4HLSEWBA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sam, On 2016-06-03 19:01, Samuel Weiler wrote: > This page: >=20 > https://tools.ietf.org/about >=20 > lists tooks team members from 2007. Perhaps the page needs to be=20 > updated or deleted? Yes. I've taken out old stuff. Thanks for the alert! Henrik --9n72bgRLiEeGDMCWqlWMpC4Id4HLSEWBA Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXVeyeAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaM5UP/0KmKHQRfRVUZyC8XAbmtmxp tzwEgZoY4yZvgqnLqa4wahref3Gc4NGw4FW7C3A95D2HubdkuMwwmR1se460cpIl I9fT2AZ6OTcvF/AKRjmu3kgc8UUTgaxmJ93g+QCBQovUxG+qoSJElxvrvmnw46jk Oa5AEe+CBwVdbnIZ1NOEN61dJNRkJvkTzDRnkN0/X2L0takii/I6SYgorsO6zD3s /TjiOoYmapQSldOrz9B7RwlIZBEtKN9zGjPYj4ldDAyF2u1VMItidPqa062DKnS2 nRKnbrHW8KE1WLvBix7cHaCMR7EcShCVMExcS5jdM8TyCDSGuk8UYEFBqrXw/RrH m2XH3KDfpWk1jAkk2a3lhoPUOANUYLRIWN9CAgkS2EA4ulNfPn7wJcZHwVqnU1hM ryEV7hjIlXeKQU8DnJp8f2yybwliylZZqVm2xByh6dchLPHvnW28ZM+dKqr7WTha MYX+QHi2wcBalvKVd0vl1lBNBlA4hzudgqXsjQyPTAUN+ZLrU/rA5htPABgPFMhV 1ACOYLZSEMKurxRJ9UmEISO1kc64ZDrsq0ZKCP7WM4ePUTQXHtCYU+PI8asuHSs3 /TeUi7sKfyBaQg+6IB0LcnJbCO4MyvuZTblGeaKTsyGnYRmB6OLfeTHKZIJGUHPn QAWPuvOVfhdYqnYApHtx =znt8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9n72bgRLiEeGDMCWqlWMpC4Id4HLSEWBA-- From nobody Mon Jun 6 14:38:36 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44AD12D933 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 14:38:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id htvbqCqcQSIz for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0BD8012D892 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2016 14:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 81-235-150-134-no105.tbcn.telia.com ([81.235.150.134]:59109 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bA2E9-0004UP-Ft; Mon, 06 Jun 2016 14:38:29 -0700 Message-ID: <5755ED4E.3050006@levkowetz.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 23:38:22 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Samuel Weiler , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FXO3Lmw6NtwGjROXC3xkpdlPxJKNluJcd" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.235.150.134 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, weiler@watson.org X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] feature request: interim minutes X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2016 21:38:33 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --FXO3Lmw6NtwGjROXC3xkpdlPxJKNluJcd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Sam, On 2016-06-03 19:00, Samuel Weiler wrote: > I'd like to see links to interim minutes on the tools page per WG,=20 > perhaps with dates shown: >=20 > https://www.ietf.org/meeting/interim/proceedings.html Thanks; noted. Work is in progress to add these to the datatracker WG pages; I'll see if I can find time to do the same to the tools WG page. (This will however happen after the interim meeting materials support has been added to the datatracker, as it will also change some of the URL patterns for interim materials). Best regards, Henrik --FXO3Lmw6NtwGjROXC3xkpdlPxJKNluJcd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXVe1OAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcajmoP/Rolz6IN62h3X4s6rQjhdUDQ aGy8ab2TezFKgSaM9lfzFE2qxhj3h3bljTvafuDjbLs9Iy5AkJ+IOi6Xaekza+y0 YCMHVn+0JXZ4dLHIJnGoCQPkIh3/q1gqykc9+NTt8esIblSrnedLaVA3ksucnYiG m6vnsmH+3tjtD9cmnT8OCSCf5cGnJdj/buoQ7m3Fak4CAlun8snlPpn4UyvqGMOY l6Lg+0Wti6j2BdcLV3QmlllZuHiAA8Thkgv7FU9c0KeFIsWLYeoy/y/wGVq2i4SJ MGAZ5WGnj2xBUuzTLScR99zhsal5/RBWAcNx8WDACAgliMPhsmN4nJkLvV4roEhf 0B+J2vTn6kgf0J0GCmgtV84whJbD/4TJ3GWGPZTqY1uT8BvqSyb0SwQZOIIGKXnD Mo4NaMpS31o+DaGhAEgNK8Pq5Ga5KdlmYfxnh6lV/Xg9a6+kxEDDhSuY7fOAOtO6 OwbErg0JUu2DGQAK6ebdpf4nP88N/xiQJVXEVOp9Q+uRqJhd1HJNKGFhRB1nU/+J SmafQoO7X8VFmY83hSSFuHBZ831y37pYpI1xNk3wSbyfSaNKH4+TLiaZ6D7xrrxP 0dw0hUTSxAkItqocxc0tE3YRIS9VYzW0iiXWcRuKhR7YDBM2xnTCRbw1+eMZWw57 hYj+j7NZ7jgevV9cIbiL =g4En -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FXO3Lmw6NtwGjROXC3xkpdlPxJKNluJcd-- From nobody Fri Jun 10 14:28:10 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8FA12D8E0 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:28:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FSL_HELO_HOME=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ajmC6xjkvE0y for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.smtpout.orange.fr (smtp07.smtpout.orange.fr [80.12.242.129]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 04C4712D96D for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from macbook-pro-de-julien-elie.home ([92.170.5.52]) by mwinf5d42 with ME id 59U41t00C17Lgi4039U5EB; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 23:28:05 +0200 X-ME-Helo: macbook-pro-de-julien-elie.home X-ME-Auth: anVsaWVuLmVsaWVAd2FuYWRvby5mcg== X-ME-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 23:28:05 +0200 X-ME-IP: 92.170.5.52 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=c3=89LIE?= Organization: TrigoFACILE -- http://www.trigofacile.com/ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 23:28:04 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Undefined targets in XML output X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:28:09 -0000 Hi, I have just submitted a new Internet-Draft, and I see that references to other RFCs appear as "Undefined target: RFCxxxx" in the XML output: https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-murchison-nntp-compress-03.xml Are you already aware of the problem? Will it be fixed (and the XML pages already submitted fixed)? Thanks, -- Julien ÉLIE « Pourvu que ça dure ! » (Letizia Bonaparte) From nobody Fri Jun 10 14:49:05 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D4E912D7C8 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:49:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.62 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.62 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id oFqbsvlrWAkl for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:49:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (relay4-d.mail.gandi.net [217.70.183.196]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8CF5D12D7C7 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:49:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mfilter30-d.gandi.net (mfilter30-d.gandi.net [217.70.178.161]) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A6D17209F; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 23:49:01 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mfilter30-d.gandi.net Received: from relay4-d.mail.gandi.net ([IPv6:::ffff:217.70.183.196]) by mfilter30-d.gandi.net (mfilter30-d.gandi.net [::ffff:10.0.15.180]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6PGSIHNTbauD; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 23:48:59 +0200 (CEST) X-Originating-IP: 93.199.242.26 Received: from nar-3.local (p5DC7F21A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [93.199.242.26]) (Authenticated sender: cabo@cabo.im) by relay4-d.mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4D25E1720A3; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 23:48:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <575B35C9.5010003@tzi.org> Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 23:48:57 +0200 From: Carsten Bormann User-Agent: Postbox 4.0.8 (Macintosh/20151105) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?SnVsaWVuIMOJTElF?= References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.2.3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Cc: tools-discuss@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Undefined targets in XML output X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 21:49:04 -0000 Try Firefox (your XML is not accepted at all; maybe try using character references). But the problem you seem to have with references is that you coded them using cross-origin entity references. The XML processors in browsers typically don't do those. (This is one of the reasons kramdown-rfc has a "standalone mode". http://slides.rfc.space for more) You can prepare your XML input for submission by a command like: xml2rfc draft-a-b-c-revisable.xml -o draft-a-b-c-submittable.xml --exp Grüße, Carsten Julien ÉLIE wrote: > Hi, > > I have just submitted a new Internet-Draft, and I see that references to > other RFCs appear as "Undefined target: RFCxxxx" in the XML output: > https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-murchison-nntp-compress-03.xml > > Are you already aware of the problem? Will it be fixed (and the XML > pages already submitted fixed)? > > Thanks, > From nobody Sun Jun 12 13:28:56 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C252F12D18F for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 13:28:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FSL_HELO_HOME=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZLt27gAj1uG0 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 13:28:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.smtpout.orange.fr (smtp04.smtpout.orange.fr [80.12.242.126]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BD78412B038 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 13:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from macbook-pro-de-julien-elie.home ([92.170.5.52]) by mwinf5d27 with ME id 5wUq1t00A17Lgi403wUqXg; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 22:28:51 +0200 X-ME-Helo: macbook-pro-de-julien-elie.home X-ME-Auth: anVsaWVuLmVsaWVAd2FuYWRvby5mcg== X-ME-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 22:28:51 +0200 X-ME-IP: 92.170.5.52 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <575B35C9.5010003@tzi.org> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=c3=89LIE?= Organization: TrigoFACILE -- http://www.trigofacile.com/ Message-ID: <4fdf08fb-49ac-6c57-7d87-272675a35d50@trigofacile.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 22:28:50 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <575B35C9.5010003@tzi.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Undefined targets in XML output X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2016 20:28:55 -0000 Hi Carsten, > Try Firefox (your XML is not accepted at all; maybe try using character > references). I have just tried with Firefox, and indeed I see that only a few HTML entities are defined in rfc2629.dtd: "&", "<", ">", "'", """, " ", and "&nbhy;". > But the problem you seem to have with references is that you coded them > using cross-origin entity references. The XML processors in browsers > typically don't do those. (This is one of the reasons kramdown-rfc has > a "standalone mode". http://slides.rfc.space for more) > > You can prepare your XML input for submission by a command like: > > xml2rfc draft-a-b-c-revisable.xml -o draft-a-b-c-submittable.xml --exp OK, thanks for the pointer. It appears that I am using an old version of xml2rfc (in Tcl). It does not know "--exp". I'll upgrade to the current xml2rfc version in Python. Thanks again! -- Julien ÉLIE « Contra factum non datur argumentum. » From nobody Sun Jun 12 23:02:08 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279FA12B03F for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 23:02:07 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.702 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.702 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_20=-0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id z0lxaMLsdga7 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 23:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C55312B00E for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2016 23:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([93.217.92.147]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MZlEg-1aqoBb3Rra-00LYxF; Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:02:01 +0200 To: =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=c3=89LIE?= , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <575B35C9.5010003@tzi.org> <4fdf08fb-49ac-6c57-7d87-272675a35d50@trigofacile.com> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:02:02 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4fdf08fb-49ac-6c57-7d87-272675a35d50@trigofacile.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:hxeJtRiZdtZsVmAYi8TpxsjII8tKHLLn+fStGmZz7H/7KhwKau6 tOZV9BTuZhhkzfoWZlj+aX9g9SKfswayjS0YgTR8PTRi7gWDFoCmeY+v7PEXHOMKlQrGYql Om9hPeOfMP7GSnDkFnYKL5MWhLpfx8CQn/rIRcP5wYMjq0f8xg243M06f/ouCY3HcZHqrla 3GQLmLVLWMy+YObwjeNbQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:3XbfVeCB5iY=:lKbiijYGm3a7ED4IhuY2U3 rl/wIm/m1r9CzjwbnyTcPz5oHjzZ1cDTTV40gIE/Y3hjNuQ7bhUlBOSP/qpoel2huqDwYx1Bo JpJGjSEFkkkhjXh4N6MXUzGboQz3FV+9jZuj0ZYovTG5hw4MHInjFqH9AwaRZkjVG8iA1SILZ 3/1ukeZ8FcbVK4ddOWr2qjSr+2ZfbG1gVPDLUijENLuO/0iM4ewSOqu2/ZMGUsPz1wDhkszxm bCgndI6PT/ZFn5pGbfSuzFPtmc4LxwZr+tgjakq2EFNiMmCH2gzKm/LwkjltVKE7YBLFhJlo4 oVKYEFhYumyiNyodA6xrbaCVZ44tCOP8ROLh87h/8yj4ica+FIqoXaVIYVtIj9u2ejVeAdruZ fXT2zcTiP8tKjBdTAVAQkFw2505X8QBlwzLGiLpDy9Mo/W5wx1Eey+TIj8jyxz6tEpTEky6Gc +DBVU5iNEGaCeGtEQPs/wZrJjcdABo49531F2w2qQTDFAGuAWDhP3YtnL4UbPU0Im0IG3YiSc +HxMWyI5L7gPbD6js0PiuxI94HJtYweQ3pjjXaW+X12NA3YIvI01PHEKGjvzzdmbokE9oL9j5 5RKnz7/u/mbGC6dfQuOpVPYDY9Q9X6J/RF9gkCtHflfvYDYeH7httNBRrZV86n3j7vDDe5FRi VpUKTDUyeZcmZeWApof7LuZ1QWVsJzr50rFDUKz5/utaXQxyb+a0FBcXA+yhpmJ7txlIjgzOO oDa1TjSsvU24SiNEphzSOl6V7KERUpP3iOkQojrD+mFmGPgqH2FXzQLEBnfsPY4pU4aCV4dV6 J1G/oCQ Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Undefined targets in XML output X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 06:02:07 -0000 On 2016-06-12 22:28, Julien ÉLIE wrote: > Hi Carsten, > >> Try Firefox (your XML is not accepted at all; maybe try using character >> references). > > I have just tried with Firefox, and indeed I see that only a few HTML > entities are defined in rfc2629.dtd: "&", "<", ">", "'", > """, " ", and "&nbhy;". Even the DTD isn't read by browsers. "&", "<", ">", "'", """ are predefined anyway. Other entities can be defined in-line, as that: . >> But the problem you seem to have with references is that you coded them >> using cross-origin entity references. The XML processors in browsers >> typically don't do those. (This is one of the reasons kramdown-rfc has >> a "standalone mode". http://slides.rfc.space for more) >> >> You can prepare your XML input for submission by a command like: >> >> xml2rfc draft-a-b-c-revisable.xml -o draft-a-b-c-submittable.xml --exp > > OK, thanks for the pointer. > It appears that I am using an old version of xml2rfc (in Tcl). It does > not know "--exp". I'll upgrade to the current xml2rfc version in Python. FWIW, the TCL version has this feature as well. Just supply two filenames with "xml" extension. Best regards, Julian From nobody Sat Jun 18 14:01:22 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3067512D994 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:01:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FSL_HELO_HOME=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 3ERYPCHxyle8 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.smtpout.orange.fr (smtp01.smtpout.orange.fr [80.12.242.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1800112D990 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:01:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from macbook-pro-de-julien-elie.home ([92.170.5.52]) by mwinf5d48 with ME id 8M1F1t00F17Lgi403M1Gb8; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 23:01:16 +0200 X-ME-Helo: macbook-pro-de-julien-elie.home X-ME-Auth: anVsaWVuLmVsaWVAd2FuYWRvby5mcg== X-ME-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 23:01:16 +0200 X-ME-IP: 92.170.5.52 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <575B35C9.5010003@tzi.org> <4fdf08fb-49ac-6c57-7d87-272675a35d50@trigofacile.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=c3=89LIE?= Organization: TrigoFACILE -- http://www.trigofacile.com/ Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 23:01:15 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Undefined targets in XML output X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 21:01:21 -0000 Hi Julian, >> It appears that I am using an old version of xml2rfc (in Tcl). It does >> not know "--exp". I'll upgrade to the current xml2rfc version in Python. > > FWIW, the TCL version has this feature as well. Just supply two > filenames with "xml" extension. Oh, I did not notice. Thanks for the information. I have just released a new version of the draft, with inline XML references and character references instead of HTML entities. It works fine. Thanks again for your help, Carsten and you. On a side note, I notice that the XML rendering and the HTML rendering differ in Section 4. When using , the HTML version adds a yellow background, contrary to the XML version. I do not know whether it is the expected result, so I just mention it in case it is an issue to fix in the tools. Have a nice week-end, -- Julien ÉLIE « Pour célébrer ce jour heureux, buvons un coup, buvons-en deux. » (Aristophane) From nobody Sat Jun 18 14:20:50 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A66E512D984 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:20:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FSL_HELO_HOME=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H25czvnysYeH for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:20:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.smtpout.orange.fr (smtp01.smtpout.orange.fr [80.12.242.123]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D722712D887 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:20:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from macbook-pro-de-julien-elie.home ([92.170.5.52]) by mwinf5d48 with ME id 8MLj1t00G17Lgi403MLjqC; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 23:20:44 +0200 X-ME-Helo: macbook-pro-de-julien-elie.home X-ME-Auth: anVsaWVuLmVsaWVAd2FuYWRvby5mcg== X-ME-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 23:20:44 +0200 X-ME-IP: 92.170.5.52 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <575B35C9.5010003@tzi.org> <4fdf08fb-49ac-6c57-7d87-272675a35d50@trigofacile.com> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=c3=89LIE?= Organization: TrigoFACILE -- http://www.trigofacile.com/ Message-ID: <470b7226-8cc6-20bd-c9a1-fe7248126f9a@trigofacile.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 23:20:43 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Undefined targets in XML output X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 21:20:47 -0000 Le 18/06/2016 à 23:01, Julien ÉLIE a écrit : > Hi Julian, > >>> It appears that I am using an old version of xml2rfc (in Tcl). It does >>> not know "--exp". I'll upgrade to the current xml2rfc version in >>> Python. >> >> FWIW, the TCL version has this feature as well. Just supply two >> filenames with "xml" extension. > > Oh, I did not notice. Thanks for the information. > I have just released a new version of the draft, with inline XML > references and character references instead of HTML entities. It works > fine. Thanks again for your help, Carsten and you. > > On a side note, I notice that the XML rendering and the HTML rendering > differ in Section 4. When using , the HTML version > adds a yellow background, contrary to the XML version. > I do not know whether it is the expected result, so I just mention it in > case it is an issue to fix in the tools. Related links: https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-murchison-nntp-compress-04.xml https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-murchison-nntp-compress-04.html Incidentally, when submitting a draft, checks for ID nits are run. Couldn't they be the same as the ones done by a click on "[Nits]" that runs idnits? I ask because when submitting the draft, I did not see any nits. But idnits says that I am wrongly using a "MAY NOT" (not defined in RFC 2119). It would have been better to give that nit before actually sending the draft! Thanks, -- Julien ÉLIE « Pour célébrer ce jour heureux, buvons un coup, buvons-en deux. » (Aristophane) From nobody Sat Jun 18 14:50:26 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0B312D9EF for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:50:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xc2q9yNPut4C for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E98212D178 for ; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 81-235-150-134-no105.tbcn.telia.com ([81.235.150.134]:57166 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bEO8C-00082H-Dq; Sat, 18 Jun 2016 14:50:20 -0700 Message-ID: <5765C215.5070006@levkowetz.com> Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 23:50:13 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?SnVsaWVuIMOJTElF?= , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <575B35C9.5010003@tzi.org> <4fdf08fb-49ac-6c57-7d87-272675a35d50@trigofacile.com> <470b7226-8cc6-20bd-c9a1-fe7248126f9a@trigofacile.com> In-Reply-To: <470b7226-8cc6-20bd-c9a1-fe7248126f9a@trigofacile.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SO8OgGGIapvfiLa0jf1dKTxLfSJ5uVGFW" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.235.150.134 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, julien@trigofacile.com X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Undefined targets in XML output X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2016 21:50:24 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --SO8OgGGIapvfiLa0jf1dKTxLfSJ5uVGFW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-06-18 23:20, Julien =C3=89LIE wrote: > Le 18/06/2016 =C3=A0 23:01, Julien =C3=89LIE a =C3=A9crit : >> Hi Julian, >> >>>> It appears that I am using an old version of xml2rfc (in Tcl). It d= oes >>>> not know "--exp". I'll upgrade to the current xml2rfc version in >>>> Python. >>> >>> FWIW, the TCL version has this feature as well. Just supply two >>> filenames with "xml" extension. >> >> Oh, I did not notice. Thanks for the information. >> I have just released a new version of the draft, with inline XML >> references and character references instead of HTML entities. It work= s >> fine. Thanks again for your help, Carsten and you. >> >> On a side note, I notice that the XML rendering and the HTML rendering= >> differ in Section 4. When using , the HTML ver= sion >> adds a yellow background, contrary to the XML version. >> I do not know whether it is the expected result, so I just mention it = in >> case it is an issue to fix in the tools. >=20 > Related links: > https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-murchison-nntp-compress-04.xml > https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-murchison-nntp-compress-04.html >=20 >=20 > Incidentally, when submitting a draft, checks for ID nits are run.=20 > Couldn't they be the same as the ones done by a click on "[Nits]" that = > runs idnits? The submission-time idnits checks only cover the things that are _required_ at submission time, which is a small subset of all the nits checked. The [Nits] link gives you the full idnits check. > I ask because when submitting the draft, I did not see any nits. But=20 > idnits says that I am wrongly using a "MAY NOT" (not defined in RFC=20 > 2119). It would have been better to give that nit before actually=20 > sending the draft! I guess I could change things to do two separate idnits runs, one to determine if posting was allowed, and one to give feedback on nits that should be fixed at some point. Noted. Best regards, Henrik --SO8OgGGIapvfiLa0jf1dKTxLfSJ5uVGFW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXZcIVAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaf6gP/jANViMErMDGOWSsnRCwXiNl 2FB2q3DVj9xRXMhfUPg39koLPqwt2xPPXwc7fYrxpAhGzRd646JUvT1VIy4DGybX +ae548M6KHWDmPW0EWcC+ZcULA9gBOfV8nHtmkRwQkVFF5KkXlJObwqOme0otxHM ds23B1sfF+CJJFn+HaeQCTu3BnJIvdIbm5uOFVim9KIPLxKMvEDtuN9uhCbspO9z mpAzXGyC8PXNaSYR9kWlBk/3z1IWAG4nDMQdogz6BbpeGUiz4w0RFyU+4tTlcYpH 3uCPD69it8uW0HgvgnqXbHwrZi1ph/n34ghg5+lTSI+4aBBjCupX/pv6sODzlR4L HfGyUrEEiaJ13fCw0HKNYYjTav6xY7hDgBtCcJjUOC+yTY10dNiHFnC4Ua41r7ca ujMvE67SelxuuVJnu8WYX6IDS+1N0cllGo868oXZ7bjJQutn4BDvcPA6iAnd3wGU sSEbbOABKGj3TYwajLmLfeGKnX+58UKdHGI0g9khjydKXoeU3aS+y1ZDr4E7siF5 u1vcwI2KCkXys2BAFBHRsZbb0T2M0U2sKnU7lWwIZtH+EHcAXK9IVygqVb6f9WRd iD9VnjyTp3cufzsecfTz0MS3AwWTi5RaNMvH8DRnfjCmeWcXYkHNoJrEkjIPF7Zt +XfOO+0axSghhfIA8Gz5 =TEBj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SO8OgGGIapvfiLa0jf1dKTxLfSJ5uVGFW-- From nobody Sun Jun 19 00:41:03 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF13C12B036 for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2016 00:41:02 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.869 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.869 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_WEB=0.77, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TYPl3CJHIbYl for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2016 00:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA84512B00C for ; Sun, 19 Jun 2016 00:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.0.2.2] ([145.253.86.34]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MDhba-1bAjCx0yDe-00HAu9; Sun, 19 Jun 2016 09:40:57 +0200 To: =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=c3=89LIE?= , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <575B35C9.5010003@tzi.org> <4fdf08fb-49ac-6c57-7d87-272675a35d50@trigofacile.com> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <61ac5943-efa8-0dc2-3efb-a7bcd50633d7@gmx.de> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 09:40:56 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:PPHc5y5UDdMIOSIwVj6WNc3HlvcMiP3uvQfetnSYyXO78CNoznQ wefslHcao4Wjon+vdUzaAZLV4rFki2i23hML1UQcPEX7FuQo/AWXBIEnN0q1c6Afcq+yICO AYNY7DQkGoHI1c8z2FTGI8F5Yl/Q5kQr8/9DbYEOJQLtOxM6HtNDE9hm3sU9pOUl2Fn084m akyCdSAZHZYIhxvc6ZhfA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:L7umHVNOAZQ=:oqIPdNr9Jj+fJ9k10Z3qeW Q8+nZW60w9QslxS2tmMiD6v4oSVi4YZbxZyYBkXOPGyol2KRkREt0WKvMc+rAgoRzPLftEOaX ftpcJJHhIXnT0/ULO/GS2OGIdTfCxXppz3ratd2VoHpZYPRDsF2Md6/4Xa3ceBO6fZ89onZVN fPEMjvmh0M7EV3eBgXXR9Pz2vOGJqWvngInO0IpOaX5une17L3+1PcxrVP4ayBqmZXjBRXZVG HV7Xl7zWzrpSTDtb65DJGcHvZrX4wM0E2ArKGMJ/isL2duPoMVn3U6mADuzOif0z2cLsS5m3p muvyVKf/UMTl5PaOam5GzQBxHfIzuCt3i1gqbQD1MOHMGqTMsCHrSLbnLr7ODDqoYis9/sMof u3jEvf71VBkXGvj7JZ1zZJCUZ6P3E4EAwZSi6kl8LjxMoGyhxbFUj9N5WR1AE5x6mNqvrpJHm 6XhBOKZiorQ2po18vudjUM9bI+UCyQqkTI9xCz3TK5gHRJoplrK2pV8pDbOuhriXCVO9ZwPNv vw7TuczYo22QfP/Hc+LrqwWKXxeNEY23Wy+HFLzdqs7o5xyxyqjnHBcSOHbFxMTpmYaa81p2T +2f0PcqvguBqciz8D2Xcwzpz2IAxQxCAFo5r3tQKw3Pc7pgB+Z5yuXrHkWx8KBK85rOrs5DR9 gocAEZOA1e/Favk3/1Vuj6lFmr6HIKhpU4imi3dAkq8iWcK22jxqOO85FOGTUnSA6Vq8fioo9 gAkbzttztXBgXA030GLjBTzMJcIn3bEMBhQerK2JxpGuG52f4BghK1sz9DIWbFob5YjVcOk6X BMCJ/Pe Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Undefined targets in XML output X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 07:41:03 -0000 On 2016-06-18 23:01, Julien ÉLIE wrote: > Hi Julian, > >>> It appears that I am using an old version of xml2rfc (in Tcl). It does >>> not know "--exp". I'll upgrade to the current xml2rfc version in >>> Python. >> >> FWIW, the TCL version has this feature as well. Just supply two >> filenames with "xml" extension. > > Oh, I did not notice. Thanks for the information. > I have just released a new version of the draft, with inline XML > references and character references instead of HTML entities. It works > fine. Thanks again for your help, Carsten and you. > > On a side note, I notice that the XML rendering and the HTML rendering > differ in Section 4. When using , the HTML version > adds a yellow background, contrary to the XML version. > I do not know whether it is the expected result, so I just mention it in > case it is an issue to fix in the tools. That's because the XML display is done using an entirely different piece of software (rfc2629.xslt, see ). Best regards, Julian From nobody Thu Jun 23 08:50:47 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF6E12D0ED for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 08:50:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id QSudfOES01Ql for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 08:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy2-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.18.3]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B14912D0D9 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 08:50:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 30409 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jun 2016 15:50:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy2.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 2016 15:50:43 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw3 with id AFqe1t0052SSUrH01Fqht3; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 09:50:43 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=KpLehwmN c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=-NfooI8aBGcA:10 a=uEJ9t1CZtbIA:10 a=pD_ry4oyNxEA:10 a=lNc4016Vs_Qyru8iNKYA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:Subject:From:To; bh=LOLwsVHVUQwMMT4mNazSKmkuEyzi8+mQtKska1Kgqds=; b=giLBSsNmFH39nWNOFd/BhlfImDCn8tng0PXhq0+tdy5xDT8gWmptQmHaP7NcBZVeOD0kDnNyv8 JSEMtJc6b0oCOvVbGNY9o6VHbk6TXEt5VIUOvp8XPpfO0o0jrvQz8X; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:33129 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bG6tq-0000DE-2b for tools-discuss@ietf.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 09:50:38 -0600 To: tools-discuss@ietf.org From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <562e05e1-2482-4dbf-e043-2820cc1faf14@labn.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 11:50:32 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Is there a way to submit a bug/problem report via email? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 15:50:45 -0000 Hello, Is there a way to submit a bug/problem report via email? For datatracker? For tools? Thanks, Lou From nobody Thu Jun 23 09:50:57 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE2F412D0EC for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 09:50:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id g1GbFrAij9yE for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 09:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7762E12B05B for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 09:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 81-235-150-134-no105.tbcn.telia.com ([81.235.150.134]:62344 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bG7q7-0003Kw-Sd; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 09:50:52 -0700 Message-ID: <576C1364.4080003@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 18:50:44 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lou Berger , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <562e05e1-2482-4dbf-e043-2820cc1faf14@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <562e05e1-2482-4dbf-e043-2820cc1faf14@labn.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sdkLwWI9rCOb6CtBJwfwRvnOR4RA3GV7B" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.235.150.134 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, lberger@labn.net X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Is there a way to submit a bug/problem report via email? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:50:54 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --sdkLwWI9rCOb6CtBJwfwRvnOR4RA3GV7B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lou, On 2016-06-23 17:50, Lou Berger wrote: > Hello, >=20 > Is there a way to submit a bug/problem report via email? >=20 > For datatracker? For tools? For tools, see the list footer for this list. For the datatracker, mail to ietf-action will eventually reach Robert and me, but I'll see if I can= get a better one set up, and added to the list footer. Best regards, Henrik --sdkLwWI9rCOb6CtBJwfwRvnOR4RA3GV7B Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXbBNkAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaA9EP/0SHd8eCK6MdXZbabfENq+7E WlH+5uWy49xjXQ2xqHptTpE/0gPd7qCIOv5WkD51+cJsRhXzHiQj/SSq6OWaxg61 5lafUt0rZHEOAMCbeANXdp1vf8Qlm1cA4eN4Nxm+/Xt6tsDIABG9TmigjQ0ai48Y kSIg7HKQ363OyvDqVJyrWb0rEm3oZBfKIWpCz4Ai5KT1KLinLyHyP+tz2nBtOkLH +KD0MsnUxYk/nGh87meHt1pAkHLfkys00/hQPhLYqPJOQfSAhkKihFjFSh6CkQB9 I5DNvDZao0xObt9teaTNEbWT0t64x9znGYmHXHUtfBwecyqcfZ4N1fkDx6RGn13R K/3CE8bTcqljPCdZRyuxHRRqJStlldgBD9IAzeZZ3vwQAEjdP2Eu8Cj2KBntt5Dh sSIUSnE2EiRMkDrhbHp+4/SuUl1J8lejjGh0IgqlTe6PbI4zMdr/BDK8oXpPQ0rC 3cH9NmhwRjJaMJ/O+Zod8C4QepLQq/r9ndX9uc0mACh4jeryJXaBRSuLz7RbJqUu upNvG1uv3j9yAfB6SRiIWYQ0psoq9atgnjB2AXyXIdwBmiHnsjvFPzwF/kUrTOH6 oBMxqac8pr1SDmE6fmRn6GpcxXLX0EZYsT1aVEXLR60IXh7hD8+vXegIOe6a+qnw NWvXbxjFL7B87EHlwNz5 =L4+e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sdkLwWI9rCOb6CtBJwfwRvnOR4RA3GV7B-- From nobody Thu Jun 23 09:57:56 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9744C12B05F for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 09:57:54 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9mi6ezxwPfu5 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 09:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy6-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy6-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [67.222.39.168]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 709AF12B062 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 09:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25818 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jun 2016 16:57:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw3) (10.0.90.84) by gproxy6.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 2016 16:57:41 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw3 with id AGxd1t01A2SSUrH01GxgMD; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:57:41 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=KpLehwmN c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=-NfooI8aBGcA:10 a=uEJ9t1CZtbIA:10 a=pD_ry4oyNxEA:10 a=lNDt4G1SKCJ6Z7qnWUQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject; bh=fFIeK9fjHIAzjVfkdAR/Zsu21ZlJhR9jwwFl7hR+7TE=; b=Ml3u2ENk+uwIoZXXVCiCphTFPX MrxXfFzYvb7SXb7DU9XxjNATQFZn+vV/Uyccsgx2a782ubkxKfxt29pMixNxmwQY9uHVobfrAq58W jJico480sxNdiqwBkXUrerj1K; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:55607 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bG7wf-00052i-L6; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:57:37 -0600 To: Henrik Levkowetz , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <562e05e1-2482-4dbf-e043-2820cc1faf14@labn.net> <576C1364.4080003@levkowetz.com> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 12:57:32 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <576C1364.4080003@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Is there a way to submit a bug/problem report via email? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:57:54 -0000 Thanks! PS Datatracker login wasn't working properly earlier today -- seems to be okay now. On 6/23/2016 12:50 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Lou, > > On 2016-06-23 17:50, Lou Berger wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Is there a way to submit a bug/problem report via email? >> >> For datatracker? For tools? > For tools, see the list footer for this list. For the datatracker, mail > to ietf-action will eventually reach Robert and me, but I'll see if I can > get a better one set up, and added to the list footer. > > > Best regards, > > Henrik > > > > > > From nobody Thu Jun 23 10:21:02 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC5E812D534 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:21:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zYDbQpf83U-T for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E3F112D52B for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 81-235-150-134-no105.tbcn.telia.com ([81.235.150.134]:62850 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bG8JG-0000Fb-TM; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:20:59 -0700 Message-ID: <576C1A74.3010306@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 19:20:52 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lou Berger , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <562e05e1-2482-4dbf-e043-2820cc1faf14@labn.net> <576C1364.4080003@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="FlABhNEGxdRpVfc3nU1M684qac5FlhK7S" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.235.150.134 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, lberger@labn.net X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Is there a way to submit a bug/problem report via email? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 17:21:01 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --FlABhNEGxdRpVfc3nU1M684qac5FlhK7S Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-06-23 18:57, Lou Berger wrote: > Thanks! >=20 > PS Datatracker login wasn't working properly earlier today -- seems to > be okay now. Ack; known and resolved. Thanks! Best regards, Henrik > On 6/23/2016 12:50 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Hi Lou, >> >> On 2016-06-23 17:50, Lou Berger wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Is there a way to submit a bug/problem report via email? >>> >>> For datatracker? For tools? >> For tools, see the list footer for this list. For the datatracker, ma= il >> to ietf-action will eventually reach Robert and me, but I'll see if I = can >> get a better one set up, and added to the list footer. >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Henrik >> >> >> >> >> >> >=20 >=20 --FlABhNEGxdRpVfc3nU1M684qac5FlhK7S Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXbBp0AAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaPKEP/jCS2g/xXlG+XNuC4hv4mr/Q svuWMKqiy0dsPEQXREXKGkzL8dGZKW+ga88zFBIdv+e6+fAeh9OPUhR+wxSs5oe0 svqhr1g2ML2r24gOTN9gjnlmTL6+IbKREf7UYHc906SgOKdUvbtqiPVcZG66QeUq pKE6ip2NFm5smM9+ZC6O4lyJf23Vo8Nyz11qW67pn2KCJPNTVEaXTa6fBMl8fJHm CIiTcbNQ+/+h1Ia5o6BvUNXIqhf7chni3oFQPHkM265ulsImozebLiyzxYe9LQXD wU9x1UY7CEvics/KAR0Jg7Zu+3GctVxgZNsj2Q3p3kR8SSaJ4NjyAmkeTtqAox+H fpCMWIZL3dkYYHi02eDI/fGiv7xvvzP420iqirgBQQcx5tNA0alQW7AsWGJkG7Hb jHZ5AKajZXkuETpIUhdiHiF9G+qOaBSO0Bs8hzHMRWHpVL3J0z+zzhmKNOcEZn6D 2jmRJLBcaESlEs2Amzlym0dYCfdg6FOKRuhf6MFXrDUONv3OgB6AHolrcZ5/wMEI P/LvKkv6aI2V8+8NLXVLyGppLrSJLJu8prkXB1p3bBZSl6BJAA79Dm27Ks9K7YpW 0zagAo9UJJLKVS3jyVxwVCizf+vwk/ivgR4yTvHJ1+mMBYTZcN2x3TBTV0fqRB5u 2n2lp69RCMsnzOBJjWQQ =MztU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --FlABhNEGxdRpVfc3nU1M684qac5FlhK7S-- From nobody Thu Jun 23 12:40:57 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FD0F12D1C2 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 12:40:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Dq1m2arhDEWR for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 12:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B61F512D620 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 12:40:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 81-235-150-134-no105.tbcn.telia.com ([81.235.150.134]:63439 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bGAUd-0001kZ-0O; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 12:40:51 -0700 Message-ID: <576C3B3C.2010608@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:40:44 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lou Berger , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <562e05e1-2482-4dbf-e043-2820cc1faf14@labn.net> <576C1364.4080003@levkowetz.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Sk7xTVlw72Lnwc9NvwMRXJwaCxPThUerH" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.235.150.134 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, lberger@labn.net X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Is there a way to submit a bug/problem report via email? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 19:40:56 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Sk7xTVlw72Lnwc9NvwMRXJwaCxPThUerH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Lou, On 2016-06-23 18:57, Lou Berger wrote: > On 6/23/2016 12:50 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> > Hi Lou, >> > >> > On 2016-06-23 17:50, Lou Berger wrote: >>> >> Hello, >>> >> >>> >> Is there a way to submit a bug/problem report via email? >>> >> >>> >> For datatracker? For the datatracker, you can now send to django-project@ietf.org. I've updated the list footer. > For tools? >> > For tools, see the list footer for this list. For the datatracker, = mail >> > to ietf-action will eventually reach Robert and me, but I'll see if = I can >> > get a better one set up, and added to the list footer. Best regards, Henrik --Sk7xTVlw72Lnwc9NvwMRXJwaCxPThUerH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXbDs8AAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaUWwQANY8PVwuWtUMz0oUeptnplU0 nQ2X7YAs48CSbdDMKGrmOK4OZwPA48Ny5OCcZ/7tSrigp3tFWlmjLNXfzcfb5K4f CXLkZkl7htGVhPQs/x924NfZnM0lMbu3DddOmTiVxdrAK8rth7wtDqznc+Uk3hvG LFOVqIQXOEzqfQv+17CnwrzH0JnMCAQ+t40dSu4oVT/kcgElHSVn9gbrGokTpnbo N7qwmAxWCssgv7Ymg5a8AaRiDGECYNX2OZr+qoQrZ5Sk2DNKYeJR5AMDoLfIIxIv Wrtfjww7IN2Rsd6O3HCTxMQNOswHZRNFcAxeIui1hgidIE096L2ZFmbSKIu2T2W8 AuHJ+17g3BOeFv/mIn+RblkbsqNj0EAcggp3w5lgjvFVFQBbrHU88sbPyvqKWMDw iRvd+X9X+CL7aFNxlpS6k8EwqEdjXvdzkSNj+5RkKOq4bZCcWZqN+zQY0waeurFb JH72yFDYqXKO8iPOPgGZX8k7TFtRFIeQbFiTAyIlwsbtbpQoeHNN724KMzjXTljK K96Bb4m5LF096rAe6Fo5lRJtUcZJPfWlO2eH0trteXjCzHUG9/eIgBbTsawjhRdG V5MPL0leyzElwf3oVPQMuY07lEHrK4y412vsymc44wCf2QdQQCFVJug+Pv1+zijU cvHDt8wxrDL83uAadnZR =MaK0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sk7xTVlw72Lnwc9NvwMRXJwaCxPThUerH-- From nobody Thu Jun 23 13:23:05 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FD412D645 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:23:04 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q5y559XVZtm2 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy9-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [69.89.20.122]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D768212D5A5 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:23:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23083 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jun 2016 20:23:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO CMOut01) (10.0.90.82) by gproxy9.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 2016 20:23:02 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by CMOut01 with id ALNu1t01V2SSUrH01LNxlf; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:23:01 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=OPe0g0qB c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=-NfooI8aBGcA:10 a=uEJ9t1CZtbIA:10 a=pD_ry4oyNxEA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=TEA2ajgz0-s4AH9ky7AA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject; bh=ePjCg2lxy2tyk3+aAqVhW+jp7E0fq7qyNRPJ+Amy8Q8=; b=ESHS8sCUjkazSrptzaqfSU4Y7a NCUwtlYK77ASuvL6kBJw7IIltVpTXR/c5mCaNLdHdotKKGQbzOgpfIO0c5D/XO2pGdkvmqXome7gy 27fmSUKsfDVPtpslTd+gfDq+5; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:32834 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bGB9M-0004jH-1W; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:22:56 -0600 To: Henrik Levkowetz , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <562e05e1-2482-4dbf-e043-2820cc1faf14@labn.net> <576C1364.4080003@levkowetz.com> <576C3B3C.2010608@levkowetz.com> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: <37757529-cb19-0bc2-8120-ba8c8b8f55ee@labn.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 16:22:49 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <576C3B3C.2010608@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Is there a way to submit a bug/problem report via email? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 20:23:04 -0000 aaaa, okay. Thanks. Why not just datatracker@ietf.org? Lou PS thanks for the footer update, most who care should notice this ! On 6/23/2016 3:40 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > Hi Lou, > > On 2016-06-23 18:57, Lou Berger wrote: >> On 6/23/2016 12:50 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>>> Hi Lou, >>>> >>>> On 2016-06-23 17:50, Lou Berger wrote: >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there a way to submit a bug/problem report via email? >>>>>> >>>>>> For datatracker? > For the datatracker, you can now send to django-project@ietf.org. > > I've updated the list footer. > >> For tools? >>>> For tools, see the list footer for this list. For the datatracker, mail >>>> to ietf-action will eventually reach Robert and me, but I'll see if I can >>>> get a better one set up, and added to the list footer. > Best regards, > > Henrik > From nobody Thu Jun 23 14:11:08 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4BEB12D806 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:11:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PW0MaNIsnXO1 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zinfandel.tools.ietf.org (zinfandel.tools.ietf.org [IPv6:2001:1890:123a::1:2a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F3F112D180 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:11:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 81-235-150-134-no105.tbcn.telia.com ([81.235.150.134]:63705 helo=[192.168.1.120]) by zinfandel.tools.ietf.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.82_1-5b7a7c0-XX) (envelope-from ) id 1bGBtw-0000kv-GV; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:11:04 -0700 Message-ID: <576C5061.7010006@levkowetz.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 23:10:57 +0200 From: Henrik Levkowetz User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lou Berger , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <562e05e1-2482-4dbf-e043-2820cc1faf14@labn.net> <576C1364.4080003@levkowetz.com> <576C3B3C.2010608@levkowetz.com> <37757529-cb19-0bc2-8120-ba8c8b8f55ee@labn.net> In-Reply-To: <37757529-cb19-0bc2-8120-ba8c8b8f55ee@labn.net> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EEok1nVLjqh3FP9tIRTF1epX3qnBdReMN" X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 81.235.150.134 X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: tools-discuss@ietf.org, lberger@labn.net X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: henrik@levkowetz.com X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Mon, 26 Dec 2011 16:24:06 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on zinfandel.tools.ietf.org) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Is there a way to submit a bug/problem report via email? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:11:07 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --EEok1nVLjqh3FP9tIRTF1epX3qnBdReMN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2016-06-23 22:22, Lou Berger wrote: > aaaa, okay. Thanks. Why not just datatracker@ietf.org? 1) That address was already in use for another purpose. 2) django-project@ietf.org has existed for some time, and already receives stack traces from the datatracker when things go wrong, so it's a good match. The recipient list already had almost all the right people; with an update done today, it's just right. But I do agree that the localpart isn't semantically great for the purpose. Best regards, Henrik > Lou >=20 > PS thanks for the footer update, most who care should notice this ! >=20 > On 6/23/2016 3:40 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >> Hi Lou, >> >> On 2016-06-23 18:57, Lou Berger wrote: >>> On 6/23/2016 12:50 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>>>> Hi Lou, >>>>> >>>>> On 2016-06-23 17:50, Lou Berger wrote: >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is there a way to submit a bug/problem report via email? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For datatracker? >> For the datatracker, you can now send to django-project@ietf.org. >> >> I've updated the list footer. >> >>> For tools? >>>>> For tools, see the list footer for this list. For the datatracker,= mail >>>>> to ietf-action will eventually reach Robert and me, but I'll see if= I can >>>>> get a better one set up, and added to the list footer. >> Best regards, >> >> Henrik >> >=20 >=20 --EEok1nVLjqh3FP9tIRTF1epX3qnBdReMN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXbFBhAAoJEE6bV0uPuxcaC4wQANL51OJP8qiXopOdz0HRDWt+ mhCxNRK1ulYqEAPVfrFUGrtTYgtgw6H4mtjTE0IelM7PvnkL/NrEyxGjVOuIz2ba CqFQLgzgDAAb5QCdTYEwrX/4dZ0894eFDVnnErP3ushrKQjfh+gtrUktokair06U bSRopiKV8E4vm3qF7/axqjj619/bjodA5NcVYWF+Fez39ckAeke4KWmAW7AyWaXD CCJZFr+ze2lDBb7hwM3HQbXPAVYGOi661icCQmHqsYSMOEasd1WAa3g9GxHLfCVG 2wyjCL6AqXv6Lw3TWQqRi/zIeXFgKrpAaFD6PZ9Q8G4zZgtsC2XXoSrwsG3Z3Vqr wAWP07rLYMgCfoDRafJxdeIwOQdYQ95qO5vtQwQeGS4HEncPEQe88/mCKg2y6jsU HY0v4K4urImH5TTNOKADPID5q0X+zHTVfi5jHzZjSj3D3LiN7qc9QAF9BzgTSRXh ai7vjCwf/1l7xqOq7L6Zbhre9vgQyvOPLKT70zNucW6+0woWqivt9gKf6abe4CAR HwJ00N9n19p1aXtYTUAfS6RRJ12h5E9wyI1Ocms/OE5pRck/GI7gx2OR1WiSop5K UO2eLSYTOI3MqFRo4DuiOupXGXk5UaE1Saxu0/pevFIZgQS0IaBZ/O6YyURR164w YBAru5T8x5CN/+QtAhKn =Jilx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EEok1nVLjqh3FP9tIRTF1epX3qnBdReMN-- From nobody Thu Jun 23 14:19:23 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9EB712D806 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:19:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.002 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.002 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (768-bit key) header.d=labn.net Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id s3wLyUAlmO-5 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com (gproxy7-pub.mail.unifiedlayer.com [70.40.196.235]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 179CD12D6A8 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 18678 invoked by uid 0); 23 Jun 2016 21:19:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmgw2) (10.0.90.83) by gproxy7.mail.unifiedlayer.com with SMTP; 23 Jun 2016 21:19:20 -0000 Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]) by cmgw2 with id AMKD1t0082SSUrH01MKGfj; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 15:19:18 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=ff4+lSgF c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=h1BC+oY+fLhyFmnTBx92Jg==:117 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=-NfooI8aBGcA:10 a=uEJ9t1CZtbIA:10 a=pD_ry4oyNxEA:10 a=48vgC7mUAAAA:8 a=vWyvu0_IhrwfggI9J80A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=w1C3t2QeGrPiZgrLijVG:22 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=labn.net; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version :Date:Message-ID:From:References:To:Subject; bh=/nXh6OzAoP3GSA/IXIbT5eFJn4g2GChXt7xGCbZOnEg=; b=bOPGHQFQdtjVY5jdVKX027HhKW N4YJuaerjyQPI+gvLf8W1/3z1UuMCbketuMG36yoI6TkDdUIBJA50Rs3E0srRGfTQG5KCRQpTUUJp JEhb+olD9bQWQMmcWZhHS0sE7; Received: from box313.bluehost.com ([69.89.31.113]:54090 helo=[127.0.0.1]) by box313.bluehost.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.86_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bGC1q-00074k-Ql; Thu, 23 Jun 2016 15:19:14 -0600 To: Henrik Levkowetz , tools-discuss@ietf.org References: <562e05e1-2482-4dbf-e043-2820cc1faf14@labn.net> <576C1364.4080003@levkowetz.com> <576C3B3C.2010608@levkowetz.com> <37757529-cb19-0bc2-8120-ba8c8b8f55ee@labn.net> <576C5061.7010006@levkowetz.com> From: Lou Berger Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 17:19:08 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <576C5061.7010006@levkowetz.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Identified-User: {1038:box313.bluehost.com:labnmobi:labn.net} {sentby:smtp auth 69.89.31.113 authed with lberger@labn.net} Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Is there a way to submit a bug/problem report via email? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 21:19:23 -0000 Thanks Henrik, a reasonable answer... Lou On 6/23/2016 5:10 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: > On 2016-06-23 22:22, Lou Berger wrote: >> aaaa, okay. Thanks. Why not just datatracker@ietf.org? > 1) That address was already in use for another purpose. > > 2) django-project@ietf.org has existed for some time, and already > receives stack traces from the datatracker when things go wrong, > so it's a good match. The recipient list already had almost all > the right people; with an update done today, it's just right. > > But I do agree that the localpart isn't semantically great for the > purpose. > > > Best regards, > > Henrik > >> Lou >> >> PS thanks for the footer update, most who care should notice this ! >> >> On 6/23/2016 3:40 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>> Hi Lou, >>> >>> On 2016-06-23 18:57, Lou Berger wrote: >>>> On 6/23/2016 12:50 PM, Henrik Levkowetz wrote: >>>>>> Hi Lou, >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2016-06-23 17:50, Lou Berger wrote: >>>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is there a way to submit a bug/problem report via email? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For datatracker? >>> For the datatracker, you can now send to django-project@ietf.org. >>> >>> I've updated the list footer. >>> >>>> For tools? >>>>>> For tools, see the list footer for this list. 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[109.67.2.59]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w81sm2611438wmg.20.2016.06.25.11.04.56 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Jun 2016 11:04:58 -0700 (PDT) References: <20160625175547.17196.37166.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> To: rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org, tools-discuss@ietf.org From: Yaron Sheffer X-Forwarded-Message-Id: <20160625175547.17196.37166.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Message-ID: <576EC7C4.6010905@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 21:04:52 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20160625175547.17196.37166.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sheffer-ietf-rfc-annotations-00.txt X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 18:05:03 -0000 Hi, I have posted a short draft that proposes to open the "tools" version of RFCs up, by allowing readers can annotate them. The goal is to provide us with feedback and encourage discussion of these documents outside the "walls" of the IETF. If you will, this is another way to reach out to the broader community, as this recent draft [1] suggests. I would appreciate your comments! Thanks, Yaron [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-arkko-ietf-trends-and-observations-00 -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: New Version Notification for draft-sheffer-ietf-rfc-annotations-00.txt Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:55:47 -0700 From: internet-drafts@ietf.org To: Yaron Sheffer A new version of I-D, draft-sheffer-ietf-rfc-annotations-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Yaron Sheffer and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-sheffer-ietf-rfc-annotations Revision: 00 Title: Requesting Comments: Enabling Readers to Annotate RFCs Document date: 2016-06-25 Group: Individual Submission Pages: 6 URL: https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sheffer-ietf-rfc-annotations-00.txt Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sheffer-ietf-rfc-annotations/ Htmlized: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sheffer-ietf-rfc-annotations-00 Abstract: RFCs were initially intended as, literally, requests for comments. Since then, they have turned into standards documents, with a peculiar process to report errors and a highly onerous process to actually have the RFC modified/republished. Non-IETF participants are typically unaware of any way to provide feedback to published RFCs, other than direct email to the listed authors. This is very different from the way many web specifications are developed today and arguably leads to the value of published RFCs diminishing over time. This document proposes an experiment to remedy this situation through the deployment of web annotations. Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. 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[109.67.2.59]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id e16sm6206357wma.12.2016.06.26.22.20.39 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 26 Jun 2016 22:20:40 -0700 (PDT) To: Leonard Rosenthol , "rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org" , "tools-discuss@ietf.org" References: <20160625175547.17196.37166.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <576EC7C4.6010905@gmail.com> <77E7F840-7485-4D1E-A00D-2B5B3D33B763@adobe.com> From: Yaron Sheffer Message-ID: <5770B7A5.2080400@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 08:20:37 +0300 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <77E7F840-7485-4D1E-A00D-2B5B3D33B763@adobe.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [rfc-i] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-sheffer-ietf-rfc-annotations-00.txt X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 05:20:45 -0000 Hi Leonard, I think an initial "shipping" solution would be mostly around identity: allowing users to register with their IETF or some other, federated identity instead of having to register with an external service. Thanks, Yaron On 26/06/16 16:02, Leonard Rosenthol wrote: > As an experiment, this seems perfectly reasonable. (not sure what the “shipping” solution would look like – but can’t hurt anything to try out) > > Leonard > > On 6/25/16, 2:04 PM, "rfc-interest on behalf of Yaron Sheffer" wrote: > > Hi, > > I have posted a short draft that proposes to open the "tools" version of > RFCs up, by allowing readers can annotate them. The goal is to provide > us with feedback and encourage discussion of these documents outside the > "walls" of the IETF. > > If you will, this is another way to reach out to the broader community, > as this recent draft [1] suggests. > > I would appreciate your comments! > > Thanks, > Yaron > > > [1] https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-arkko-ietf-trends-and-observations-00 > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: New Version Notification for > draft-sheffer-ietf-rfc-annotations-00.txt > Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2016 10:55:47 -0700 > From: internet-drafts@ietf.org > To: Yaron Sheffer > > > A new version of I-D, draft-sheffer-ietf-rfc-annotations-00.txt > has been successfully submitted by Yaron Sheffer and posted to the > IETF repository. > > Name: draft-sheffer-ietf-rfc-annotations > Revision: 00 > Title: Requesting Comments: Enabling Readers to Annotate RFCs > Document date: 2016-06-25 > Group: Individual Submission > Pages: 6 > URL: > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-sheffer-ietf-rfc-annotations-00.txt > Status: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-sheffer-ietf-rfc-annotations/ > Htmlized: > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-sheffer-ietf-rfc-annotations-00 > > > Abstract: > RFCs were initially intended as, literally, requests for comments. > Since then, they have turned into standards documents, with a > peculiar process to report errors and a highly onerous process to > actually have the RFC modified/republished. Non-IETF participants > are typically unaware of any way to provide feedback to published > RFCs, other than direct email to the listed authors. This is very > different from the way many web specifications are developed today > and arguably leads to the value of published RFCs diminishing over > time. This document proposes an experiment to remedy this situation > through the deployment of web annotations. > > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of submission > until the htmlized version and diff are available at tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > > > _______________________________________________ > rfc-interest mailing list > rfc-interest@rfc-editor.org > https://www.rfc-editor.org/mailman/listinfo/rfc-interest > > From nobody Mon Jun 27 06:17:45 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AFD12D1AA for ; Mon, 27 Jun 2016 06:17:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.003 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.003 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, 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$\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 09:01:38 -0400 Message-ID: <31989.1467205298@obiwan.sandelman.ca> Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] etherpad in jitsi X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:01:48 -0000 a) Is the etherpad in the jitsi accessible from outside JITSI? b) it's not the etherpad from etherpad.tools.ietf.org... could it be? c) could it persist across uses of the same room? At least, could it persist for an hour or two, in case everyone gets disconnected, and so we can capture it. -- ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | network architect [ ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [ From nobody Wed Jun 29 08:05:46 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F7512D08F for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 08:05:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.327 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.327 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.426, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vxGiQ0uHNtBw for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 08:05:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tuna.sandelman.ca (tuna.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:3:216:3eff:fe7c:d1f3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D56B12DF21 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 08:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sandelman.ca (obiwan.sandelman.ca [IPv6:2607:f0b0:f:2::247]) by tuna.sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B05203B4 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 11:13:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from obiwan.sandelman.ca (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by sandelman.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F79638BE for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 11:05:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Michael Richardson To: tools-discuss X-Attribution: mcr X-Mailer: MH-E 8.6; nmh 1.6+dev; GNU Emacs 24.5.1 X-Face: $\n1pF)h^`}$H>Hk{L"x@)JS7<%Az}5RyS@k9X%29-lHB$Ti.V>2bi.~ehC0; <'$9xN5Ub# z!G,p`nR&p7Fz@^UXIn156S8.~^@MJ*mMsD7=QFeq%AL4m Archived-At: Subject: [Tools-discuss] LICENSE.txt file to IDs on github X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:05:34 -0000 --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Is there a suggested LICENSE.txt for internet-drafts repos that live on github (or elsewhere)? 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X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 14:31:15 -0000 --001a11c072bac56ee005367fb885 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Why is xml2rfc not on Github? Which is to say: How do I file an issue / PR on xml2rfc? It has an "http:" dependency. --001a11c072bac56ee005367fb885 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Which= is to say: How do I file an issue / PR on xml2rfc?=C2=A0 It has an "h= ttp:" dependency.

--001a11c072bac56ee005367fb885-- From nobody Thu Jun 30 08:29:00 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4797012B04A for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 08:28:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bwhoAW0clyE4 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 08:28:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 28E2A12D15A for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 08:28:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.123] ([5.10.171.186]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx102) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M6874-1bYlln3v4M-00y9vo; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 17:28:54 +0200 To: Richard Barnes , Tools Team Discussion References: From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: <1915656b-c0c8-8cb0-fff9-4ea52fc09fcb@gmx.de> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 17:28:57 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:iaVQq4iYBtCq3tiuyDX3JcGhMadSOBgI/jseHSqe96E0IcJ7SlT 6mwxqPyNoaOeaRxhvsvcd/KdCO5pIYGcvESR09P1Wm3we29ysekOUpR+m66PX79ehxR75pw jK6xiKtnER20gs4t2A4OSs4bFVGKzQ4aatDdpCdPLLE00zFfJtTgBksuAtmoFBhTGQkglOf mpFLBazL5wVL3IFzBaQHQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:kR7upedM0NA=:ISoo0BLJOmlUzIywVprsRc njeT6SKa2tuBrTaLOHwVoxBPfe/HX2uqK+EiC/Fc5pxO14gNYq+Pvmh2W4r16tZmrUyBkCrZS qBkYYLAZj7yQsPdCChL9sJt6fGUCLDT7zAqlbXjWwtUXtnqqP7x+wjE9GqkDQDk45rpfJocvd pQgV44z8B+jkEN6SvpLkxqwlWHPLOxebwSpM5Su6VaU0CLlAQC6ithSN0JYUGXDO2QySBtjys 8txcFk2pdZ13395IUZqE+Y770g3CPnaoYEof+sHXAxMmLomszW7e1T+NcWDJsvKYI7zXky1iO bWBBZ3LLnUHnAzoX7pzAGerWi/FpXv+JHuWd46ReTe+JCj1ftS/8l5MbJHLWQ3Ms+eBvpNmFp iw6lm1TrHXqsTp9ZY1CqN3a1rtR1bNG+CxWEV1O2oeCuY0ZOuWoMUUUFSq/af3kb1aY8Rm7xY SF0TbhZloTF9R8K0H4iwo/OPX3SfRB71yoFd8lD68RalVwsemAx49Mp19FXNr83kw6ZjfU6L2 FJsPoETz0W7m5Z92B3vpO7LNHYzLP7+nkhanX0TuMVAWRD+X/7xA3Cc5ipaqGnNipN1erFGtb bNjCXzdaDzpiaSw5uiKRaCSHHdM1tqS9niubFCkx0XJTpzBRxnUDoRMhieUBTSZk7eSNEXZOF jB+VuWAj4L58pMnJ1buVhm0QY4RB7lGwyhXYt4z+eepxEFO+MyHaMoVzEUL7ESV667u5RaqbM S5jsrHMvWUSQscjc8sVaFuOkP4LhpsMeAecPZTgxDfDyjQID+TyOAKyxW4D5LlsMyDcsHmHJK jVoY3O8 Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] xml2rfc issues? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 15:28:59 -0000 On 2016-06-30 16:31, Richard Barnes wrote: > Why is xml2rfc not on Github? Not everything needs to be on Github :-) > Which is to say: How do I file an issue / PR on xml2rfc? It has an > "http:" dependency. 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X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 15:54:40 -0000 --001a11493230123f09053680e3d0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks Julian. Cached for next time. For now, it looks like the issue is actually one with xml.resource.org -- namely that its HTTPS is enabled, but totally non-functional. First you get a certificate error, then when you finally connect to the server, it gives you the content for tools.ietf.org, not xml.resource.org. (I'm kind of amazed that someone figured out how to configure that!) Who has hands on servers to fix this? I hear there's a CA now that will give you free certificates for as many domains as you want, so it shouldn't be an issue to get a cert for xml.resource.org. On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2016-06-30 16:31, Richard Barnes wrote: > >> Why is xml2rfc not on Github? >> > > Not everything needs to be on Github :-) > > Which is to say: How do I file an issue / PR on xml2rfc? It has an >> "http:" dependency. >> > > > > Best regards, Julian > --001a11493230123f09053680e3d0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Julian.=C2=A0 Cached for next time.

For now, it looks like the issue is actually one with xml.resource.org -- namely that its HTTPS is enabled,= but totally non-functional.=C2=A0 First you get a certificate error, then = when you finally connect to the server, it gives you the content for tools.ietf.org, not xml.resource.org.=C2=A0 (I'm kind of amazed that someo= ne figured out how to configure that!)

Who has hands on servers to f= ix this?=C2=A0 I hear there's a CA now that will give you free certific= ates for as many domains as you want, so it shouldn't be an issue to ge= t a cert for xml.resource.org.
<= /div>

On Thu, Jun = 30, 2016 at 11:28 AM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote:
On 2016-06-3= 0 16:31, Richard Barnes wrote:
Why is xml2rfc not on Github?

Not everything needs to be on Github :-)

Which is to say: How do I file an issue / PR on xml2rfc?=C2=A0 It has an "http:" dependency.

<https://trac.tools.ietf.org/tools/xml2rf= c/trac/report/10>

Best regards, Julian

--001a11493230123f09053680e3d0-- From nobody Thu Jun 30 09:31:29 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9642012DB11 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:31:27 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.601 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.601 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qVGsbhqEAQ-F for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:31:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD8F312DB42 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.178.20] ([93.217.97.66]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LiDHj-1bf7dw2uSR-00nMIu; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 18:29:55 +0200 To: Richard Barnes References: <1915656b-c0c8-8cb0-fff9-4ea52fc09fcb@gmx.de> From: Julian Reschke Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 18:30:00 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:nRyGDJuidSgSF55IoOrnD4gXY9P/uB4oGyKzOjJSYXuooDzttN1 dUpMFLG/5gsKoMI9ZPkZ8v/oqFUJWWK9Jn6fSblMX/MRd8Qu1zInrqR+L3wChcDVKKB0MhQ riA1ZF0q3rosBjuHOj9oR9FEmSteQtq+mbIIRceKfhWbKpBJVeSrWNaoCkTvJuKsLJQrxMu /7r+ioTnwakm7UnxXEEUg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:ByIxktamuA8=:A21Afqd4Y8D7XNOH8Up2kr XTNHJV2TxkzsTTKjYQhxi49DW6F554u65onGv/Z6Rv3PF74RhmvoVFQFRaHmCDHLAZAEq65KP i87CshEmjdRvY1ftXk+GzLkUfh8w32BUHxk3XBKBKDr9Zp9MUBSROK64lwcmqFqC6fV6wIr8m /tOjJbEm60smWNojwStiTb5mrOSZi34+WjcvAMjs5iBlpaFeyILC73vK+EQKg7uIifZm2AVIE lMxFn134gUqCgrqm5Zum2lTeP5klfvkOhr+BM5gsAmoBUYgcjZlZMY5eI5joy9umcXjup+IpZ QuJ3jzev7wBSwwpLNzVUQ8ey4Bfxof3lNKZX781OuCBox73kKLiHSyUbYFfwbHcerqsQYTViM 90pUXA1fG0ij/M7sXUbsTINlBOU1TqnsWmMoplk5Q4n0wAQbArsOJA9B+/T9aNKXWRuZ8j9Bx aoqMphUbtoCtugMw5bRrx32xDsQZu5EGqtyL6T7BXHqv84IwplDsYMmTpc38cCDucrpwsw3d8 PyUhVlLR6/uAX+5GpR74bJt5hkVw2wnIk/ZuRHfT5PiDd9o591ZT7r5R0+gSSOaLZJ3BW8L3q ssTneZYzPcyPrYy5mk+2ovDkK3epMxD8c1avRt3cCi97GlFIq6oI1uw8hRBZfyP7tv2eqFmbE yK50jn2X6Taze4G3s7/o0IJR1j+KPryJbHwD/QSPbcDPbmaG3QoQrW849YIM+AdEJ2M7p6Idq 3eIhq1sc0bl14zX3dVDk38JR91vSfo9K9Sh+MNBYmvvtUM0eizbBDxgYXBZjlfhaJTxKGo380 jOdOud8 Archived-At: Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] xml2rfc issues? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 16:31:27 -0000 On 2016-06-30 17:54, Richard Barnes wrote: > Thanks Julian. Cached for next time. > > For now, it looks like the issue is actually one with xml.resource.org > -- namely that its HTTPS is enabled, but > totally non-functional. First you get a certificate error, then when > you finally connect to the server, it gives you the content for > tools.ietf.org , not xml.resource.org > . (I'm kind of amazed that someone figured out > how to configure that!) > > Who has hands on servers to fix this? I hear there's a CA now that will > give you free certificates for as many domains as you want, so it > shouldn't be an issue to get a cert for xml.resource.org > . Don't use xml.resource.org anymore. AFAIU, the recommended base URI for references is http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/. Best regards, Julian PS: my recommendation is not to have specs depend on external resources at all, but that's a separate discussion. 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X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 16:47:47 -0000 --001a114140bac5ee740536818253 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Julian Reschke wrote: > On 2016-06-30 17:54, Richard Barnes wrote: > >> Thanks Julian. Cached for next time. >> >> For now, it looks like the issue is actually one with xml.resource.org >> -- namely that its HTTPS is enabled, but >> totally non-functional. First you get a certificate error, then when >> you finally connect to the server, it gives you the content for >> tools.ietf.org , not xml.resource.org >> . (I'm kind of amazed that someone figured out >> how to configure that!) >> >> Who has hands on servers to fix this? I hear there's a CA now that will >> give you free certificates for as many domains as you want, so it >> shouldn't be an issue to get a cert for xml.resource.org >> . >> > > Don't use xml.resource.org anymore. AFAIU, the recommended base URI for > references is http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/. > Same problems there. --Richard > > Best regards, Julian > > PS: my recommendation is not to have specs depend on external resources at > all, but that's a separate discussion. > > > > --001a114140bac5ee740536818253 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 12:30 PM, Julian Reschke <= julian.reschke@g= mx.de> wrote:
On 2016-06-30 17:54, Richard Barnes wrote:
Thanks Julian.=C2=A0 Cached for next time.

For now, it looks like the issue is actually one with xml.resource.org
<http://xml.resource.org> -- namely that its HTTPS is enabled, but<= span class=3D"">
totally non-functional.=C2=A0 First you get a certificate error, then when<= br> you finally connect to the server, it gives you the content for
tools.ietf.org <http://tools.ietf.org>, not xml.resource.org=
<http://xml.resource.org>.=C2=A0 (I'm kind of amazed that someo= ne figured out
how to configure that!)

Who has hands on servers to fix this?=C2=A0 I hear there's a CA now tha= t will
give you free certificates for as many domains as you want, so it
shouldn't be an issue to get a cert for xml.resource.org
<http://xml.resource.org>.

Don't use xml.resource.org anymore. AFAIU, the recommended base URI f= or references is http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/.

Same problems there.

--Richard
=C2= =A0

Best regards, Julian

PS: my recommendation is not to have specs depend on external resources at = all, but that's a separate discussion.




--001a114140bac5ee740536818253-- From nobody Thu Jun 30 09:48:23 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B37212B02F for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:48:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id RRC7IcIwyx3y for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from che.mayfirst.org (che.mayfirst.org [162.247.75.118]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D1111288B8 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:48:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fifthhorseman.net (unknown [38.109.115.130]) by che.mayfirst.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 12A17F997; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 12:48:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: by fifthhorseman.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E947620139; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 12:48:14 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Kahn Gillmor To: Julian Reschke , Richard Barnes In-Reply-To: References: <1915656b-c0c8-8cb0-fff9-4ea52fc09fcb@gmx.de> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.22+69~gd812194 (https://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/24.5.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 12:48:14 -0400 Message-ID: <87poqy1v3l.fsf@alice.fifthhorseman.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Archived-At: Cc: Tools Team Discussion Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] xml2rfc issues? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 16:48:22 -0000 On Thu 2016-06-30 12:30:00 -0400, Julian Reschke wrote: > Don't use xml.resource.org anymore. AFAIU, the recommended base URI for > references is http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/. hm, this doesn't work with https either. can we get this set up with https? --dkg From nobody Thu Jun 30 09:51:31 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03ED112D52F for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:51:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fyBszjMV1E46 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from formal.dehy.de (formal.dehy.de [81.169.166.228]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B615D12D526 for ; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 09:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hellers.localnet (cable-78-34-41-182.netcologne.de [78.34.41.182]) by formal.dehy.de (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id u5UGpMke019748; Thu, 30 Jun 2016 18:51:22 +0200 From: Antony Stone Organization: IETF To: Tools Team Discussion Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 18:51:16 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.2.0-4-amd64; KDE/4.8.4; x86_64; ; ) References: <87poqy1v3l.fsf@alice.fifthhorseman.net> In-Reply-To: <87poqy1v3l.fsf@alice.fifthhorseman.net> X-From: haelentor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201606301851.16934.Antony.Stone@tools.ietf.org> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (formal.dehy.de [81.169.166.228]); Thu, 30 Jun 2016 18:51:22 +0200 (CEST) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] xml2rfc issues? X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 16:51:28 -0000 On Thursday 30 June 2016 at 18:48:14, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > On Thu 2016-06-30 12:30:00 -0400, Julian Reschke wrote: > > Don't use xml.resource.org anymore. AFAIU, the recommended base URI for > > references is http://xml2rfc.ietf.org/. > > hm, this doesn't work with https either. can we get this set up with > https? Thanks for the comments. We're looking into it. -- Antony Stone, systems administrator Internet Engineering Task Force tools servers http://tools.ietf.org