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From owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Mon Feb 1 15:58:28 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-usefor-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-usefor-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B2B3A69D3 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:58:28 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.525 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.525 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12=1.069, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, SARE_SUB_ENC_UTF8=0.152] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1BOwjStqzLhA for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:58:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBC43A67C0 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 15:58:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o11NvgJt090197 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:57:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o11Nvgl0090196; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:57:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no (eikenes.alvestrand.no [158.38.152.233]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o11NvdZ0090189 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:57:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from harald@alvestrand.no) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A35939E1AB; Tue, 2 Feb 2010 00:56:52 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at eikenes.alvestrand.no Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IXt9FccxGcht; Tue, 2 Feb 2010 00:56:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from [172.19.2.127] (216-239-45-4.google.com [216.239.45.4]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB1F839E175; Tue, 2 Feb 2010 00:56:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B66DA84.6030906@alvestrand.no> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:43:32 +0100 From: Harald Alvestrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?SnVsaWVuIMOJTElF?= CC: Usefor WG , inn-workers@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: UTF-8 newsgroup name feedback References: <8DE48CBBBE4F4FD9A8281CEB8D57090F@Iulius> In-Reply-To: <8DE48CBBBE4F4FD9A8281CEB8D57090F@Iulius> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Julien ÉLIE wrote: > > Hi all, > > For they who are interested, I have just sent a newgroup > control article for local.test.υτφ8 so that you could > retrieve it and eventually process it (changing "local" > to whatever you want): > > > > > Note for inn-workers > -------------------- > I confirm it works fine with INN provided that we remove > the check for [^a-z0-9+_\-] in a newsgroup name (enforced > by controlchan). I suggest that we remove it in INN 2.5.2. > We can reintegrate a better check with allowed UTF-8 values > in future versions of INN. > > > Note for USEFOR > --------------- > In case someone wants to see what the result is, you can use > news.trigofacile.com on port 119. > The trigofacile.test.υτφ8 newsgroup has been created in UTF-8. > It is readable by everyone. > > If you want to post, authenticate with user "test" and password > "test". > > The group properly shows up in LIST ACTIVE and LIST NEWSGROUPS. > > > Unfortunately, Windows Mail is unable to post to it... It says > the group does not exist and refuses to send my post. > Well, let's crosspost then to trigofacile.test.υτφ8 and trigofacile.test. > > And what does Windows Mail send to the server? > > Newsgroups: > =?UTF-8?Q?trigofacile.test.=CF=85=CF=84=CF=868=2Ctrigofacil?=\r\n > \t=?UTF-8?Q?e.test?=\r\n > Followup-To: =?UTF-8?Q?trigofacile.test.=CF=85=CF=84=CF=868?=\r\n > > Gosh, that's not a success at all for Windows Mail :-/ Thanks for those tests! It seems that you have demonstrated the existence of a large body of deployed software (including, but not limited to, Windows Mail and unmodified INN) that will not work with UTF-8 newsgroup names. That leads me to suggest that if we want to have UTF-8 newsgroup names, perhaps we need to have a capability signallling mechanism and some kind of block/downgrade mechanism (one could imagine simply not distributing or admitting the existence of UTF-8 newsgroups to anyone who does not signal support, or one could imagine more complex schemes. 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From owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Mon Feb 1 21:13:11 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-usefor-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-usefor-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B299C28C1F5 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:13:11 -0800 (PST) X-Quarantine-ID: X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Amavis-Alert: BAD HEADER, Non-encoded 8-bit data (char C3 hex): Xref: clerew dk.test.utf8-\303\246\303\270\303\245:468 local[...] X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.161 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.161 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.184, BAYES_00=-2.599, DATE_IN_PAST_06_12=1.069, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id B5ERZZmXfIfn for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:13:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23FD128C211 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:13:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o125CAEx009777 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:12:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o125CAgT009776; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:12:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from v-smtp-auth-relay-2.gradwell.net (v-smtp-auth-relay-2.gradwell.net [79.135.125.41]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o125C8tW009770 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:12:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from news@clerew.man.ac.uk) Received: from [80.175.135.89] ([80.175.135.89] helo=clerew.man.ac.uk country=GB ident=postmaster#pop3$clerew^man*ac&uk) by v-smtp-auth-relay-2.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.290) id 4b67b427.51bf.21 for ietf-usefor@imc.org; Tue, 2 Feb 2010 05:12:07 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Received: from clerew.man.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clerew.man.ac.uk (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o125C3WY014637 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2010 05:12:03 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by clerew.man.ac.uk (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id o125C34Q014634 for ietf-usefor@imc.org; Tue, 2 Feb 2010 05:12:03 GMT To: ietf-usefor@imc.org Xref: clerew dk.test.utf8-æøå:468 local.usefor:25236 Path: clerew!chl From: "Charles Lindsey" Subject: Extending news to EAI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.2 (NOV) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:06:57 GMT Lines: 75 Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: There is now an experimental protocol for UTF-8 headers in Email (RFC5335 and its relations). This was the product of the IMA WG. There has been recent discussion of applying this to Netnews, and the conclusion seems to be that the IMA WG is not the place to do this, and that a private draft would be the way to do this. However, this list would be a reasonable place to discuss it. Essentially, under this protocol, UTF-8 may be freely used in Email headers, but a downgrading mechanism is needed whenever mail passes to a server that does not advertise the UTF8SMTP capability. This is much what the USEFOR WG wanted to do in its earlier days, but the decision was then taken to postpone it until the base documents were complete, and then to bring it up again as an Experimental protocol. So maybe now is the time to embark on it. It is much easier with Netnews than with Email, since the underlying transport (whether NNTP or UUCP) is already 8-bit clean. I would not expect it to become the norm on the Big-8 groups for quite some time, but it would be very useful for National hierarchies, such as the Scandinavian ones where the inability to have Newsgroup Names with their own special characters in them is a right pain (apparently). So the experimental protocol would start off with the extensions allowed by RFC5535, and then add UTF-8 in the Newsgroups header. It would be up to individual hierarchies to encourage deployment of the experiment within their groups. It has already been established that the existing transport mechanisms will move such articles around without problem. No downgrading is envisaged except at gateways to email (at which point the mechanisms already agreed for EAI/IMA would apply). But existing servers would cope fairly well without modification, at least until UTF-8 newsgroup-names were introduced. Clearly, anyone expecting to read such articles would need a suitable client. Some clients will already display them (Opera, for example). otherwise, it would be up to people to install suitable user agents if they wanted to see these articles properly (existing agents might display such headers in a garbled form (which might be good enough in languages which wers based on Latin alphabets). Bodies would still expect to be covered by a Content-Type: test/plain; charset=utf-8. With utf-8 newsgroup-names, again people who wanted to subscribe to such groups would need suitable clients, but existing servers would serve them once they had been persuaded to store them in their active lists. That would require control messages that created such groups to be accepted, and also articles submitted to moderated groups to be forwarded, so in practice people who wanted to subscribe to such groups would need to connect to servers which had been upgraded to cope. But the important point is that articles would still propagate correctly through non-upgraded servers. Some early USEFOR drafts show how the Newsgroups header was to be extended. In particular, it required some very strict normalization, so that a simple byte-by-byte comparison of newsgroup-names would always work. Note that an experimental group dk.test.utf8-æøå (which should show up in UTF-8 clients properly, althoug this message is somposed in iso-8859-1) already exists on several servers, notably on news.dotsrc.org, and this message is crossposted there, and if a thread develops there, then well and good. But people on that list might do better to subscribe to the usefor mailing list (see http://www.imc.org/ietf-usefor/index.html). -- Charles H. 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From owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Wed Feb 3 14:01:32 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-usefor-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-usefor-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA9F83A6B4F for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 14:01:32 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.598 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.598 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.547, BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DUBLy8qVwmLS for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 14:01:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92B0F3A6B45 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 14:01:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o13M0bMp067863 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:00:37 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o13M0bsU067862; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:00:37 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from 30.mail-out.ovh.net (30.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.62.213]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o13M0ZZw067856 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:00:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from julien@trigofacile.com) Received: (qmail 2983 invoked by uid 503); 3 Feb 2010 22:02:20 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail432.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 30.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2010 22:02:20 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queueout) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2010 22:00:33 -0000 Received: from aaubervilliers-151-1-47-4.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr (HELO Iulius) (julien%trigofacile.com@83.114.133.4) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2010 22:00:32 -0000 Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Julien_=C9LIE?= To: "Usefor WG" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Extending news to EAI Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 23:00:37 +0100 Organization: TrigoFACILE -- http://www.trigofacile.com/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 17437937757502176697 X-Ovh-Remote: 83.114.133.4 (aaubervilliers-151-1-47-4.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.5/N Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Hi Charles, > So the experimental protocol would start off with the extensions allowed > by RFC5535, and then add UTF-8 in the Newsgroups header. I think it will also require to change the possible values for "argument" here: control = "Control:" SP *WSP control-command *WSP CRLF control-command = verb *( 1*WSP argument ) verb = token argument = 1*( %x21-7E ) We need to be able to use UTF-8 in "argument". Could it also be possible to extend dist-list to allow UTF-8 distributions? distribution = "Distribution:" SP dist-list CRLF dist-list = *WSP dist-name *( [FWS] "," [FWS] dist-name ) *WSP dist-name = ALPHA / DIGIT *( ALPHA / DIGIT / "+" / "-" / "_" ) Incidentally, may it exist hostnames in UTF-8 (for the Path: header field) or are they always canonized in ASCII? > It has already been established that the existing transport mechanisms > will move such articles around without problem. Is there any record of that? Which news servers (and versions) were tested? > Some early USEFOR drafts show how the Newsgroups header was to be > extended. In particular, it required some very strict normalization, so > that a simple byte-by-byte comparison of newsgroup-names would always > work. The last draft seems to be -09, Section 5.5: http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/usefor/drafts/draft-ietf-usefor-article-09.txt -- Julien LIE Avez-vous remarqu qu' table les mets que l'on vous sert vous mettent les mots la bouche ? 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From owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Fri Feb 5 09:13:26 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-usefor-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-usefor-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77FB73A6943 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:13:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -5.475 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.475 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.203, BAYES_00=-2.599, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, URI_HEX=0.368] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P-H2iSiiD5yZ for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:13:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC2003A6896 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 09:13:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o15HC8DD031481 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:12:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o15HC88D031480; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:12:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from v-smtp-auth-relay-3.gradwell.net (v-smtp-auth-relay-3.gradwell.net [79.135.125.42]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o15HC6Zg031472 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:12:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from news@clerew.man.ac.uk) Received: from [80.175.135.89] ([80.175.135.89] helo=clerew.man.ac.uk country=GB ident=postmaster^pop3^clerew&man^ac*uk) by v-smtp-auth-relay-3.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.290) id 4b6c5165.771.25e for ietf-usefor@imc.org; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:12:05 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Received: from clerew.man.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clerew.man.ac.uk (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o15HC1ji004053 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:12:01 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by clerew.man.ac.uk (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id o15HC1NR004050 for ietf-usefor@imc.org; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:12:01 GMT To: ietf-usefor@imc.org Xref: clerew local.usefor:25239 Path: clerew!chl From: "Charles Lindsey" Subject: Re: Extending news to EAI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.2 (NOV) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:54:14 GMT Lines: 77 Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: In Julien LIE writes: >Hi Charles, >> So the experimental protocol would start off with the extensions allowed >> by RFC5535, and then add UTF-8 in the Newsgroups header. >I think it will also require to change the possible values for "argument" >here: > control = "Control:" SP *WSP control-command *WSP CRLF > control-command = verb *( 1*WSP argument ) > verb = token > argument = 1*( %x21-7E ) >We need to be able to use UTF-8 in "argument". >Could it also be possible to extend dist-list to allow UTF-8 distributions? > distribution = "Distribution:" SP dist-list CRLF > dist-list = *WSP dist-name > *( [FWS] "," [FWS] dist-name ) *WSP > dist-name = ALPHA / DIGIT > *( ALPHA / DIGIT / "+" / "-" / "_" ) Yes, there are various minor things that would need to be extended apart from the Newgroups header (including the newsgroups line and the checkgroups message). >Incidentally, may it exist hostnames in UTF-8 (for the Path: header field) >or are they always canonized in ASCII? That is an interesting question, which would need dicussion, but does not look like a show stopper. >> It has already been established that the existing transport mechanisms >> will move such articles around without problem. >Is there any record of that? Which news servers (and versions) were tested? It should be documented in the early archives of this list. Here is a typical Path for an article that reached news.dotsrc.org: Path: news.sunsite.dk!dotsrc.org!news.szn.dk!news.bunk.cc!pnx.dk! newsfeed101.telia.com!nf02.dk.telia.net!news.tele.dk! feed118.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail It is really a question of whether a server has it in its active file. If so, then there is no reason why it should not pass straight through it. The flooding algorithm will, as usual, find a way around any servers that don't participate, but is will simply be a configuration affair rather than any failure of implementation. The real difficulty will be in user agents. I can read the danish group in Opera, but for some reason it doesn't like yours. Ensuring there is a working Path between your server and news.dotsrc.org might be worth a try. >> Some early USEFOR drafts show how the Newsgroups header was to be >> extended. In particular, it required some very strict normalization, so >> that a si... >The last draft seems to be -09, Section 5.5: > http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/usefor/drafts/draft-ietf-usefor-article-09.txt -- Charles H. 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From owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Fri Feb 5 11:33:05 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-usefor-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-usefor-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A921B28C193 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 11:33:05 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.145 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.145 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.001, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6zl1LnYyzneh for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 11:33:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14F828C19E for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 11:33:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o15JWTGu041041 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:32:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o15JWTrf041040; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:32:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from 64.mail-out.ovh.net (64.mail-out.ovh.net [91.121.185.65]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o15JWR7C041030 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:32:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from julien@trigofacile.com) Received: (qmail 16995 invoked by uid 503); 5 Feb 2010 19:35:07 -0000 Received: from b9.ovh.net (HELO mail32.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.59) by 64.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2010 19:35:07 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queueout) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2010 19:32:25 -0000 Received: from amontpellier-159-1-96-131.w90-57.abo.wanadoo.fr (HELO Iulius) (julien%trigofacile.com@90.57.255.131) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2010 19:32:24 -0000 Message-ID: <220E6FECA0D44BC48B94BD47C438B522@Iulius> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=C3=89LIE?= To: "Usefor WG" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Extending news to EAI Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 20:32:22 +0100 Organization: TrigoFACILE -- http://www.trigofacile.com/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 8234831918789033401 X-Ovh-Remote: 90.57.255.131 (amontpellier-159-1-96-131.w90-57.abo.wanadoo.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.5/N Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Hi Charles, > The real difficulty will be in user agents. I can read the danish group in > Opera, but for some reason it doesn't like yours. Ensuring there is a > working Path between your server and news.dotsrc.org might be worth a try. I do not have many feeds (only a dozen) and I do not see the Danish UTF-8 group on them. So I doubt a post to dk.test.utf8-æøå (that is to say dk.test.utf8-æøå) on my news server will go far away... I don't mind creating their group, though. It is strange that Opera can read dk.test.utf8-æøå but not trigofacile.test.υτφ8... I believe the French hierarchy fr.* may be willing to participate in the experiment. 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From owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Mon Feb 8 09:33:42 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-usefor-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-usefor-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B58B93A7440 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:33:42 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -4.371 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.371 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.969, BAYES_50=0.001, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06=0.044, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YMivIJXMHSoG for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439423A6801 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 09:33:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o18HC92j074976 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:12:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o18HC93E074975; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:12:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from v-smtp-auth-relay-3.gradwell.net (v-smtp-auth-relay-3.gradwell.net [79.135.125.42]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o18HC7l7074968 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:12:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from news@clerew.man.ac.uk) Received: from [80.175.135.89] ([80.175.135.89] helo=clerew.man.ac.uk country=GB ident=postmaster&pop3$clerew&man*ac^uk) by v-smtp-auth-relay-3.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.290) id 4b7045e6.6250.2f2 for ietf-usefor@imc.org; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:12:06 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Received: from clerew.man.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clerew.man.ac.uk (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o18HC266020894 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:12:02 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by clerew.man.ac.uk (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id o18HC1km020890 for ietf-usefor@imc.org; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:12:01 GMT To: ietf-usefor@imc.org Xref: clerew local.usefor:25241 Path: clerew!chl From: "Charles Lindsey" Subject: Re: Extending news to EAI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.2 (NOV) References: <220E6FECA0D44BC48B94BD47C438B522@Iulius> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:18:41 GMT Lines: 25 Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: In <220E6FECA0D44BC48B94BD47C438B522@Iulius> =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=C3=89LIE?= writes: >Hi Charles, >> The real difficulty will be in user agents. I can read the danish group in >> Opera, but for some reason it doesn't like yours. Ensuring there is a >> working Path between your server and news.dotsrc.org might be worth a try. >I do not have many feeds (only a dozen) and I do not see the Danish UTF-8 group >on them. So I doubt a post to dk.test.utf8-æøå (that is to say dk.test.utf8-æøå) >on my news server will go far away... It is available on news.dotsrc.org, so you either need to peer with them, or at least subscribe to them. -- Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing------------------------ Tel: +44 161 436 6131 Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl Email: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K. PGP: 2C15F1A9 Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5 From owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Mon Feb 8 12:18:01 2010 Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-usefor-archive@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-usefor-archive@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB6028C10B for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:18:01 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.769 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.769 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.562, BAYES_40=-0.185, HELO_MISMATCH_COM=0.553, MIME_8BIT_HEADER=0.3, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, STOX_REPLY_TYPE=0.001] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wJ6hlnlZtmn0 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:18:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (Balder-227.Proper.COM [192.245.12.227]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB71228C10F for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:18:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o18KHFaT088267 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:17:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o18KHFrI088265; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:17:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from 30.mail-out.ovh.net (30.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.62.213]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o18KHBkR088257 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:17:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from julien@trigofacile.com) Received: (qmail 19607 invoked by uid 503); 8 Feb 2010 20:19:39 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail423.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 30.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2010 20:19:39 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queueout) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2010 20:17:09 -0000 Received: from aaubervilliers-151-1-2-159.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr (HELO Iulius) (julien%trigofacile.com@83.114.1.159) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2010 20:17:08 -0000 Message-ID: <6570F741330145F6BA499DFD4A8185E7@Iulius> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=C3=89LIE?= To: "Usefor WG" References: <220E6FECA0D44BC48B94BD47C438B522@Iulius> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Extending news to EAI Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:17:10 +0100 Organization: TrigoFACILE -- http://www.trigofacile.com/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 8161648426006216121 X-Ovh-Remote: 83.114.1.159 (aaubervilliers-151-1-2-159.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.5/N Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Hi Charles, > It is available on news.dotsrc.org, so you either need to peer with them, > or at least subscribe to them. I have just subscribed to news.dotsrc.org and created the dk.test.utf8-æøå (C3 A6 C3 B8 C3 A5 in hexadecimal) newsgroup on my news server. Amusingly, it is dk.test.utf8-ÊÞå on my ISO-8859-15 terminal (0xA6 and 0xB8 are ones of the few characters different between ISO-8859-1 and ISO-8859-15!). A good news is that the pullnews program works fine with dk.test.utf8-æøå so I could easily suck existing articles for them to show up on my news server (news.trigofacile.com). -- Julien ÉLIE « Le travail n'est pas une bonne chose. 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Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o18KHFaT088267 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:17:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o18KHFrI088265; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:17:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from 30.mail-out.ovh.net (30.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.62.213]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o18KHBkR088257 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:17:13 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from julien@trigofacile.com) Received: (qmail 19607 invoked by uid 503); 8 Feb 2010 20:19:39 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail423.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 30.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2010 20:19:39 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queueout) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2010 20:17:09 -0000 Received: from aaubervilliers-151-1-2-159.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr (HELO Iulius) (julien%trigofacile.com@83.114.1.159) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 8 Feb 2010 20:17:08 -0000 Message-ID: <6570F741330145F6BA499DFD4A8185E7@Iulius> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=C3=89LIE?= To: "Usefor WG" References: <220E6FECA0D44BC48B94BD47C438B522@Iulius> In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Extending news to EAI Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 21:17:10 +0100 Organization: TrigoFACILE -- http://www.trigofacile.com/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 8161648426006216121 X-Ovh-Remote: 83.114.1.159 (aaubervilliers-151-1-2-159.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.5/N Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Hi Charles, > It is available on news.dotsrc.org, so you either need to peer with them, > or at least subscribe to them. I have just subscribed to news.dotsrc.org and created the dk.test.utf8-æøå (C3 A6 C3 B8 C3 A5 in hexadecimal) newsgroup on my news server. Amusingly, it is dk.test.utf8-ÊÞå on my ISO-8859-15 terminal (0xA6 and 0xB8 are ones of the few characters different between ISO-8859-1 and ISO-8859-15!). A good news is that the pullnews program works fine with dk.test.utf8-æøå so I could easily suck existing articles for them to show up on my news server (news.trigofacile.com). -- Julien ÉLIE « Le travail n'est pas une bonne chose. Si ça l'était, les riches l'auraient accaparé. » Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o18HC92j074976 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:12:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o18HC93E074975; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:12:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from v-smtp-auth-relay-3.gradwell.net (v-smtp-auth-relay-3.gradwell.net [79.135.125.42]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o18HC7l7074968 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:12:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from news@clerew.man.ac.uk) Received: from [80.175.135.89] ([80.175.135.89] helo=clerew.man.ac.uk country=GB ident=postmaster&pop3$clerew&man*ac^uk) by v-smtp-auth-relay-3.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.290) id 4b7045e6.6250.2f2 for ietf-usefor@imc.org; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:12:06 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Received: from clerew.man.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clerew.man.ac.uk (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o18HC266020894 for ; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:12:02 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by clerew.man.ac.uk (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id o18HC1km020890 for ietf-usefor@imc.org; Mon, 8 Feb 2010 17:12:01 GMT To: ietf-usefor@imc.org Xref: clerew local.usefor:25241 Path: clerew!chl From: "Charles Lindsey" Subject: Re: Extending news to EAI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.2 (NOV) References: <220E6FECA0D44BC48B94BD47C438B522@Iulius> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 8 Feb 2010 12:18:41 GMT Lines: 25 Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: In <220E6FECA0D44BC48B94BD47C438B522@Iulius> =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=C3=89LIE?= writes: >Hi Charles, >> The real difficulty will be in user agents. I can read the danish group in >> Opera, but for some reason it doesn't like yours. Ensuring there is a >> working Path between your server and news.dotsrc.org might be worth a try. >I do not have many feeds (only a dozen) and I do not see the Danish UTF-8 group >on them. So I doubt a post to dk.test.utf8-æøå (that is to say dk.test.utf8-æøå) >on my news server will go far away... It is available on news.dotsrc.org, so you either need to peer with them, or at least subscribe to them. -- Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing------------------------ Tel: +44 161 436 6131 Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl Email: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K. PGP: 2C15F1A9 Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o15JWTGu041041 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:32:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o15JWTrf041040; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:32:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from 64.mail-out.ovh.net (64.mail-out.ovh.net [91.121.185.65]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o15JWR7C041030 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:32:28 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from julien@trigofacile.com) Received: (qmail 16995 invoked by uid 503); 5 Feb 2010 19:35:07 -0000 Received: from b9.ovh.net (HELO mail32.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.59) by 64.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2010 19:35:07 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queueout) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2010 19:32:25 -0000 Received: from amontpellier-159-1-96-131.w90-57.abo.wanadoo.fr (HELO Iulius) (julien%trigofacile.com@90.57.255.131) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2010 19:32:24 -0000 Message-ID: <220E6FECA0D44BC48B94BD47C438B522@Iulius> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Julien_=C3=89LIE?= To: "Usefor WG" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Extending news to EAI Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 20:32:22 +0100 Organization: TrigoFACILE -- http://www.trigofacile.com/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 8234831918789033401 X-Ovh-Remote: 90.57.255.131 (amontpellier-159-1-96-131.w90-57.abo.wanadoo.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.5/N Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Hi Charles, > The real difficulty will be in user agents. I can read the danish group in > Opera, but for some reason it doesn't like yours. Ensuring there is a > working Path between your server and news.dotsrc.org might be worth a try. I do not have many feeds (only a dozen) and I do not see the Danish UTF-8 group on them. So I doubt a post to dk.test.utf8-æøå (that is to say dk.test.utf8-æøå) on my news server will go far away... I don't mind creating their group, though. It is strange that Opera can read dk.test.utf8-æøå but not trigofacile.test.υτφ8... I believe the French hierarchy fr.* may be willing to participate in the experiment. Creation of newsgroups are asked in fr.usenet.forums.evolution (see "Noms de groupes en UTF-8" where one person is in favour -- nobody answered that he was against). -- Julien ÉLIE « Un petit pås pøur møi, un grånd bønd pøur l'humanité ! » (Kerøzen) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o15HC8DD031481 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:12:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o15HC88D031480; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:12:08 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from v-smtp-auth-relay-3.gradwell.net (v-smtp-auth-relay-3.gradwell.net [79.135.125.42]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o15HC6Zg031472 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 10:12:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from news@clerew.man.ac.uk) Received: from [80.175.135.89] ([80.175.135.89] helo=clerew.man.ac.uk country=GB ident=postmaster^pop3^clerew&man^ac*uk) by v-smtp-auth-relay-3.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.290) id 4b6c5165.771.25e for ietf-usefor@imc.org; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:12:05 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Received: from clerew.man.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clerew.man.ac.uk (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o15HC1ji004053 for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:12:01 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by clerew.man.ac.uk (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id o15HC1NR004050 for ietf-usefor@imc.org; Fri, 5 Feb 2010 17:12:01 GMT To: ietf-usefor@imc.org Xref: clerew local.usefor:25239 Path: clerew!chl From: "Charles Lindsey" Subject: Re: Extending news to EAI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.2 (NOV) References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2010 14:54:14 GMT Lines: 77 Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: In Julien LIE writes: >Hi Charles, >> So the experimental protocol would start off with the extensions allowed >> by RFC5535, and then add UTF-8 in the Newsgroups header. >I think it will also require to change the possible values for "argument" >here: > control = "Control:" SP *WSP control-command *WSP CRLF > control-command = verb *( 1*WSP argument ) > verb = token > argument = 1*( %x21-7E ) >We need to be able to use UTF-8 in "argument". >Could it also be possible to extend dist-list to allow UTF-8 distributions? > distribution = "Distribution:" SP dist-list CRLF > dist-list = *WSP dist-name > *( [FWS] "," [FWS] dist-name ) *WSP > dist-name = ALPHA / DIGIT > *( ALPHA / DIGIT / "+" / "-" / "_" ) Yes, there are various minor things that would need to be extended apart from the Newgroups header (including the newsgroups line and the checkgroups message). >Incidentally, may it exist hostnames in UTF-8 (for the Path: header field) >or are they always canonized in ASCII? That is an interesting question, which would need dicussion, but does not look like a show stopper. >> It has already been established that the existing transport mechanisms >> will move such articles around without problem. >Is there any record of that? Which news servers (and versions) were tested? It should be documented in the early archives of this list. Here is a typical Path for an article that reached news.dotsrc.org: Path: news.sunsite.dk!dotsrc.org!news.szn.dk!news.bunk.cc!pnx.dk! newsfeed101.telia.com!nf02.dk.telia.net!news.tele.dk! feed118.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail It is really a question of whether a server has it in its active file. If so, then there is no reason why it should not pass straight through it. The flooding algorithm will, as usual, find a way around any servers that don't participate, but is will simply be a configuration affair rather than any failure of implementation. The real difficulty will be in user agents. I can read the danish group in Opera, but for some reason it doesn't like yours. Ensuring there is a working Path between your server and news.dotsrc.org might be worth a try. >> Some early USEFOR drafts show how the Newsgroups header was to be >> extended. In particular, it required some very strict normalization, so >> that a si... >The last draft seems to be -09, Section 5.5: > http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/usefor/drafts/draft-ietf-usefor-article-09.txt -- Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing------------------------ Tel: +44 161 436 6131 Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl Email: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K. PGP: 2C15F1A9 Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o13M0bMp067863 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:00:37 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o13M0bsU067862; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:00:37 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from 30.mail-out.ovh.net (30.mail-out.ovh.net [213.186.62.213]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with SMTP id o13M0ZZw067856 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:00:36 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from julien@trigofacile.com) Received: (qmail 2983 invoked by uid 503); 3 Feb 2010 22:02:20 -0000 Received: from b6.ovh.net (HELO mail432.ha.ovh.net) (213.186.33.56) by 30.mail-out.ovh.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2010 22:02:20 -0000 Received: from b0.ovh.net (HELO queueout) (213.186.33.50) by b0.ovh.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2010 22:00:33 -0000 Received: from aaubervilliers-151-1-47-4.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr (HELO Iulius) (julien%trigofacile.com@83.114.133.4) by ns0.ovh.net with SMTP; 3 Feb 2010 22:00:32 -0000 Message-ID: From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Julien_=C9LIE?= To: "Usefor WG" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: Extending news to EAI Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 23:00:37 +0100 Organization: TrigoFACILE -- http://www.trigofacile.com/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 X-Ovh-Tracer-Id: 17437937757502176697 X-Ovh-Remote: 83.114.133.4 (aaubervilliers-151-1-47-4.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) X-Ovh-Local: 213.186.33.20 (ns0.ovh.net) X-Spam-Check: DONE|U 0.5/N Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Hi Charles, > So the experimental protocol would start off with the extensions allowed > by RFC5535, and then add UTF-8 in the Newsgroups header. I think it will also require to change the possible values for "argument" here: control = "Control:" SP *WSP control-command *WSP CRLF control-command = verb *( 1*WSP argument ) verb = token argument = 1*( %x21-7E ) We need to be able to use UTF-8 in "argument". Could it also be possible to extend dist-list to allow UTF-8 distributions? distribution = "Distribution:" SP dist-list CRLF dist-list = *WSP dist-name *( [FWS] "," [FWS] dist-name ) *WSP dist-name = ALPHA / DIGIT *( ALPHA / DIGIT / "+" / "-" / "_" ) Incidentally, may it exist hostnames in UTF-8 (for the Path: header field) or are they always canonized in ASCII? > It has already been established that the existing transport mechanisms > will move such articles around without problem. Is there any record of that? Which news servers (and versions) were tested? > Some early USEFOR drafts show how the Newsgroups header was to be > extended. In particular, it required some very strict normalization, so > that a simple byte-by-byte comparison of newsgroup-names would always > work. The last draft seems to be -09, Section 5.5: http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/usefor/drafts/draft-ietf-usefor-article-09.txt -- Julien LIE Avez-vous remarqu qu' table les mets que l'on vous sert vous mettent les mots la bouche ? (Raymond Devos) Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o125CAEx009777 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:12:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o125CAgT009776; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:12:10 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from v-smtp-auth-relay-2.gradwell.net (v-smtp-auth-relay-2.gradwell.net [79.135.125.41]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o125C8tW009770 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 22:12:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from news@clerew.man.ac.uk) Received: from [80.175.135.89] ([80.175.135.89] helo=clerew.man.ac.uk country=GB ident=postmaster#pop3$clerew^man*ac&uk) by v-smtp-auth-relay-2.gradwell.net with esmtpa (Gradwell gwh-smtpd 1.290) id 4b67b427.51bf.21 for ietf-usefor@imc.org; Tue, 2 Feb 2010 05:12:07 +0000 (envelope-sender ) Received: from clerew.man.ac.uk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by clerew.man.ac.uk (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o125C3WY014637 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 2010 05:12:03 GMT Received: (from news@localhost) by clerew.man.ac.uk (8.13.7/8.13.7/Submit) id o125C34Q014634 for ietf-usefor@imc.org; Tue, 2 Feb 2010 05:12:03 GMT To: ietf-usefor@imc.org Xref: clerew dk.test.utf8-æøå:468 local.usefor:25236 Path: clerew!chl From: "Charles Lindsey" Subject: Extending news to EAI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.2 (NOV) Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:06:57 GMT Lines: 75 Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: There is now an experimental protocol for UTF-8 headers in Email (RFC5335 and its relations). This was the product of the IMA WG. There has been recent discussion of applying this to Netnews, and the conclusion seems to be that the IMA WG is not the place to do this, and that a private draft would be the way to do this. However, this list would be a reasonable place to discuss it. Essentially, under this protocol, UTF-8 may be freely used in Email headers, but a downgrading mechanism is needed whenever mail passes to a server that does not advertise the UTF8SMTP capability. This is much what the USEFOR WG wanted to do in its earlier days, but the decision was then taken to postpone it until the base documents were complete, and then to bring it up again as an Experimental protocol. So maybe now is the time to embark on it. It is much easier with Netnews than with Email, since the underlying transport (whether NNTP or UUCP) is already 8-bit clean. I would not expect it to become the norm on the Big-8 groups for quite some time, but it would be very useful for National hierarchies, such as the Scandinavian ones where the inability to have Newsgroup Names with their own special characters in them is a right pain (apparently). So the experimental protocol would start off with the extensions allowed by RFC5535, and then add UTF-8 in the Newsgroups header. It would be up to individual hierarchies to encourage deployment of the experiment within their groups. It has already been established that the existing transport mechanisms will move such articles around without problem. No downgrading is envisaged except at gateways to email (at which point the mechanisms already agreed for EAI/IMA would apply). But existing servers would cope fairly well without modification, at least until UTF-8 newsgroup-names were introduced. Clearly, anyone expecting to read such articles would need a suitable client. Some clients will already display them (Opera, for example). otherwise, it would be up to people to install suitable user agents if they wanted to see these articles properly (existing agents might display such headers in a garbled form (which might be good enough in languages which wers based on Latin alphabets). Bodies would still expect to be covered by a Content-Type: test/plain; charset=utf-8. With utf-8 newsgroup-names, again people who wanted to subscribe to such groups would need suitable clients, but existing servers would serve them once they had been persuaded to store them in their active lists. That would require control messages that created such groups to be accepted, and also articles submitted to moderated groups to be forwarded, so in practice people who wanted to subscribe to such groups would need to connect to servers which had been upgraded to cope. But the important point is that articles would still propagate correctly through non-upgraded servers. Some early USEFOR drafts show how the Newsgroups header was to be extended. In particular, it required some very strict normalization, so that a simple byte-by-byte comparison of newsgroup-names would always work. Note that an experimental group dk.test.utf8-æøå (which should show up in UTF-8 clients properly, althoug this message is somposed in iso-8859-1) already exists on several servers, notably on news.dotsrc.org, and this message is crossposted there, and if a thread develops there, then well and good. But people on that list might do better to subscribe to the usefor mailing list (see http://www.imc.org/ietf-usefor/index.html). -- Charles H. Lindsey ---------At Home, doing my own thing------------------------ Tel: +44 161 436 6131 Web: http://www.cs.man.ac.uk/~chl Email: chl@clerew.man.ac.uk Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K. PGP: 2C15F1A9 Fingerprint: 73 6D C2 51 93 A0 01 E7 65 E8 64 7E 14 A4 AB A5 Received: from balder-227.proper.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o11NvgJt090197 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:57:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.13.5/Submit) id o11Nvgl0090196; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:57:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org) X-Authentication-Warning: balder-227.proper.com: majordom set sender to owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org using -f Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no (eikenes.alvestrand.no [158.38.152.233]) by balder-227.proper.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id o11NvdZ0090189 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 16:57:41 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from harald@alvestrand.no) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A35939E1AB; Tue, 2 Feb 2010 00:56:52 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at eikenes.alvestrand.no Received: from eikenes.alvestrand.no ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (eikenes.alvestrand.no [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IXt9FccxGcht; Tue, 2 Feb 2010 00:56:51 +0100 (CET) Received: from [172.19.2.127] (216-239-45-4.google.com [216.239.45.4]) by eikenes.alvestrand.no (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB1F839E175; Tue, 2 Feb 2010 00:56:50 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4B66DA84.6030906@alvestrand.no> Date: Mon, 01 Feb 2010 14:43:32 +0100 From: Harald Alvestrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (X11/20090817) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: =?UTF-8?B?SnVsaWVuIMOJTElF?= CC: Usefor WG , inn-workers@lists.isc.org Subject: Re: UTF-8 newsgroup name feedback References: <8DE48CBBBE4F4FD9A8281CEB8D57090F@Iulius> In-Reply-To: <8DE48CBBBE4F4FD9A8281CEB8D57090F@Iulius> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-ietf-usefor@mail.imc.org Precedence: bulk List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: List-ID: Julien ÉLIE wrote: > > Hi all, > > For they who are interested, I have just sent a newgroup > control article for local.test.υτφ8 so that you could > retrieve it and eventually process it (changing "local" > to whatever you want): > > > > > Note for inn-workers > -------------------- > I confirm it works fine with INN provided that we remove > the check for [^a-z0-9+_\-] in a newsgroup name (enforced > by controlchan). I suggest that we remove it in INN 2.5.2. > We can reintegrate a better check with allowed UTF-8 values > in future versions of INN. > > > Note for USEFOR > --------------- > In case someone wants to see what the result is, you can use > news.trigofacile.com on port 119. > The trigofacile.test.υτφ8 newsgroup has been created in UTF-8. > It is readable by everyone. > > If you want to post, authenticate with user "test" and password > "test". > > The group properly shows up in LIST ACTIVE and LIST NEWSGROUPS. > > > Unfortunately, Windows Mail is unable to post to it... It says > the group does not exist and refuses to send my post. > Well, let's crosspost then to trigofacile.test.υτφ8 and trigofacile.test. > > And what does Windows Mail send to the server? > > Newsgroups: > =?UTF-8?Q?trigofacile.test.=CF=85=CF=84=CF=868=2Ctrigofacil?=\r\n > \t=?UTF-8?Q?e.test?=\r\n > Followup-To: =?UTF-8?Q?trigofacile.test.=CF=85=CF=84=CF=868?=\r\n > > Gosh, that's not a success at all for Windows Mail :-/ Thanks for those tests! It seems that you have demonstrated the existence of a large body of deployed software (including, but not limited to, Windows Mail and unmodified INN) that will not work with UTF-8 newsgroup names. That leads me to suggest that if we want to have UTF-8 newsgroup names, perhaps we need to have a capability signallling mechanism and some kind of block/downgrade mechanism (one could imagine simply not distributing or admitting the existence of UTF-8 newsgroups to anyone who does not signal support, or one could imagine more complex schemes. Harald