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[162.206.226.16]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f129sm20208039ywd.10.2016.01.18.15.58.44 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Jan 2016 15:58:45 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Robin X-Google-Original-From: Dave Robin Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7D3C0691-D9A4-4083-957A-19AB9EC281A3" Subject: Request for well-known URI: ashrae Message-Id: <7F33E16D-3444-452A-A10C-72672CB467C5@daverobin.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 18:58:42 -0500 To: wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 16:29:00 -0800 X-BeenThere: wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Well-Known URI review list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 00:12:53 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_7D3C0691-D9A4-4083-957A-19AB9EC281A3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Greetings,=20 As part of our on-going development of standard protocols for building = automation, we are requesting a /.well-known suffix. (We have already = registered the needed Content-Types mentioned in the referenced = document) URI suffix: "ashrae" Change controller: American Society of Heating, Refrigeration, and = Air-conditioning Engineers (ASHRAE) www.ashrae.org Specification document(s): = http://www.bacnet.org/Addenda/Add-135-2012am-ppr3-draft-17_chair_approved.= pdf Related information: The referenced document is a new version of = BACnet/WS (Building Automation and Control network / Web Services). = BACnet (ANSI/ASHRAE Standard 135 and ISO Standard 16484-5) is the = dominant protocol for commercial, industrial, and institutional building = automation and control. The primary protocol is based on binary encoded = ASN.1 data structures. This is a RESTful JSON and XML versions of that, = plus numerous web-services-only features. Initially, we need a way to = discover URI prefixes for the resources on a given BACnet/WS server. = However, this /.well-known is being requested for "ashrae", rather than = just "bacnet", so that other uses by the ASHRAE engineering society can = be defined in the future. =20 Thank you for your consideration, Dave Robin Editor, BACnet Web Services --Apple-Mail=_7D3C0691-D9A4-4083-957A-19AB9EC281A3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Greetings, 

As part of our on-going development of = standard protocols for building automation, we are requesting a = /.well-known suffix. (We have already registered the needed = Content-Types mentioned in the referenced document)

URI suffix: =  "ashrae"

Change controller:  American = Society of Heating, Refrigeration, and Air-conditioning Engineers = (ASHRAE) www.ashrae.org


Related information:  The = referenced document is a new version of BACnet/WS (Building Automation = and Control network / Web Services). BACnet (ANSI/ASHRAE Standard 135 = and ISO Standard 16484-5) is the dominant protocol for commercial, = industrial, and institutional building automation and control.  The = primary protocol is based on binary encoded ASN.1 data structures. =  This is a RESTful JSON and XML versions of that, plus numerous = web-services-only features.  Initially, we need a way to discover = URI prefixes for the resources on a given BACnet/WS server. =  However, this /.well-known is being requested for "ashrae", rather = than just "bacnet", so that other uses by the ASHRAE engineering society = can be defined in the future.
 
Thank you for your consideration,
Dave = Robin
Editor, BACnet Web Services

= --Apple-Mail=_7D3C0691-D9A4-4083-957A-19AB9EC281A3-- From nobody Mon Jan 18 21:02:17 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wellknown-uri-review@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wellknown-uri-review@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 484C61A9087 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 21:02:15 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.602 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.602 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hwv5ugaDGbH8 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 21:02:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxout-07.mxes.net (mxout-07.mxes.net [216.86.168.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2A471A9086 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 21:02:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [120.149.194.112]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DF6FA22E2E2; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 00:02:10 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: Request for well-known URI: ashrae From: Mark Nottingham In-Reply-To: <7F33E16D-3444-452A-A10C-72672CB467C5@daverobin.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 16:02:08 +1100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <61929FD6-8A4E-44CA-8CE7-4167F3A88062@mnot.net> References: <7F33E16D-3444-452A-A10C-72672CB467C5@daverobin.com> To: Dave Robin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org X-BeenThere: wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Well-Known URI review list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 05:02:15 -0000 Hi Dave, Looks good. Do you mind if we omit the 'related information' in the = registry entry? Cheers,=20 > On 19 Jan 2016, at 10:58 am, Dave Robin wrote: >=20 > Greetings,=20 >=20 > As part of our on-going development of standard protocols for building = automation, we are requesting a /.well-known suffix. (We have already = registered the needed Content-Types mentioned in the referenced = document) >=20 > URI suffix: "ashrae" >=20 > Change controller: American Society of Heating, Refrigeration, and = Air-conditioning Engineers (ASHRAE) www.ashrae.org >=20 > Specification document(s): = http://www.bacnet.org/Addenda/Add-135-2012am-ppr3-draft-17_chair_approved.= pdf >=20 > Related information: The referenced document is a new version of = BACnet/WS (Building Automation and Control network / Web Services). = BACnet (ANSI/ASHRAE Standard 135 and ISO Standard 16484-5) is the = dominant protocol for commercial, industrial, and institutional building = automation and control. The primary protocol is based on binary encoded = ASN.1 data structures. This is a RESTful JSON and XML versions of that, = plus numerous web-services-only features. Initially, we need a way to = discover URI prefixes for the resources on a given BACnet/WS server. = However, this /.well-known is being requested for "ashrae", rather than = just "bacnet", so that other uses by the ASHRAE engineering society can = be defined in the future. > =20 > Thank you for your consideration, > Dave Robin > Editor, BACnet Web Services >=20 > _______________________________________________ > wellknown-uri-review mailing list > wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wellknown-uri-review -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ From nobody Mon Jan 18 22:39:35 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wellknown-uri-review@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wellknown-uri-review@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 569351AC41C for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 22:39:34 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 7RCV38yumI3R for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 22:39:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-io0-x230.google.com (mail-io0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c06::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 29CAD1AC41B for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 22:39:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-io0-x230.google.com with SMTP id 77so539862409ioc.2 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 22:39:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=daverobin-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=r5pI6bbldDm9nFzpvl4PGDwMzloey3DLaOTatvcs+qc=; b=S9dUaNURu5TJlt3rgqgCh/RmhfiXDE0V0aC7R2cItGHWG0Y2CO+5TvxDDWbgyV8+FV +XJq8FoIFJ6UQdvro5lSPQFt62c6bUieL39DQai7U+v+rzfykO6qbAotJ6bF4VeIp+mo yGVMJVOZ8jDk2CCCmBIUJcLvuoplOvs5qgZGymbgUCRLDeAmSacHxqTzts0QYlNmU3yC dsSNIGmTvIxBp86gjj2CC31MTKPg3QHWBF/YgMr0zGcZIHTnRiRnsBjG9dj8Y1CnCZjy ANMTiyfCK1YMTmBwZplkxxutFd4r1yfTq7JVSrG1MpPNavylPhwiHyldCd7Z7xAxazq9 gyUA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references:to; bh=r5pI6bbldDm9nFzpvl4PGDwMzloey3DLaOTatvcs+qc=; b=Wdo+cRjODXY0l6089c5WrpdmhMd7bNQUbdDwoklxxth+fmAKYAIcFNGPOwPnU9+qdv 4ekG2NvfF05i7SCC0GoX/qh2OSSdfvdGWTAmogSY5eScP54f8UravlZg15Xm0oN7QlYZ cTg36d5X3vJ9KXIl4XoUNAMZj9plLbuq/FbR1RyqsLeYVQSCemQbma7PzluKPG1bMu95 GOHn7btlC+k9joTf/iaIk8OOFObcTabwWAvyrARtKw0TURqL7eEuMQq3dl+HJQERy3LV G5/QP7NoRCJk9uZzimWM5j17tLBlSGdLAS7NNBKgRPUgSYkZgmN1sgS1KEO++s4IcX1N xoTQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkktDdWNgrdKnQtIFGweEgB/EW1XbpR0f0Xq13GzoWkEAGxw9UVMmwmhM6gKzC+1fF5b48rRAZ08Xdux8ErM+PQkG3LrA== X-Received: by 10.107.149.18 with SMTP id x18mr29756343iod.170.1453185571379; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 22:39:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from dopey.attlocal.net (162-206-226-16.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net. [162.206.226.16]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j136sm10240543ioj.32.2016.01.18.22.39.28 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 18 Jan 2016 22:39:30 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_08B5F56F-30CE-4521-A3B7-165BFCA0FE7B" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: Request for well-known URI: ashrae From: Dave Robin In-Reply-To: <61929FD6-8A4E-44CA-8CE7-4167F3A88062@mnot.net> Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 01:39:26 -0500 Message-Id: References: <7F33E16D-3444-452A-A10C-72672CB467C5@daverobin.com> <61929FD6-8A4E-44CA-8CE7-4167F3A88062@mnot.net> To: Mark Nottingham X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org X-BeenThere: wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Well-Known URI review list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 06:39:34 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_08B5F56F-30CE-4521-A3B7-165BFCA0FE7B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Jan 19, 2016, at 12:02 AM, Mark Nottingham wrote: > Hi Dave, > Looks good. Do you mind if we omit the 'related information' in the = registry entry? Not at all. That was for your benefit. I didn't intend that to be part = of the registry. My mistake. One issue... a bit of a chicken and egg, actually. Since we are a = overly-careful publicly-reviewed ANSI and ISO standard, some folks did = not want to publish the standard until the postfix was registered, but = if the registration contains a "Specification Document" that points to = pre-publication public review version of our standard, they don't like = that either! dueling dependencies! You see, that link I included is to bacnet.org , = which is a kind of a staging area for what will eventually be published = at ashrae.org.=20 So, the questions are:=20 after registration... 1) what is the procedure to update the "Specification Document" when we = get a fully published version? 2) can we list *two* specification documents? (some folks might prefer = to get the ISO standard rather then the ANSI/ASHRAE one). Thanks! Dave >=20 > Cheers,=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> On 19 Jan 2016, at 10:58 am, Dave Robin wrote: >>=20 >> Greetings,=20 >>=20 >> As part of our on-going development of standard protocols for = building automation, we are requesting a /.well-known suffix. (We have = already registered the needed Content-Types mentioned in the referenced = document) >>=20 >> URI suffix: "ashrae" >>=20 >> Change controller: American Society of Heating, Refrigeration, and = Air-conditioning Engineers (ASHRAE) www.ashrae.org >>=20 >> Specification document(s): = http://www.bacnet.org/Addenda/Add-135-2012am-ppr3-draft-17_chair_approved.= pdf >>=20 >> Related information: The referenced document is a new version of = BACnet/WS (Building Automation and Control network / Web Services). = BACnet (ANSI/ASHRAE Standard 135 and ISO Standard 16484-5) is the = dominant protocol for commercial, industrial, and institutional building = automation and control. The primary protocol is based on binary encoded = ASN.1 data structures. This is a RESTful JSON and XML versions of that, = plus numerous web-services-only features. Initially, we need a way to = discover URI prefixes for the resources on a given BACnet/WS server. = However, this /.well-known is being requested for "ashrae", rather than = just "bacnet", so that other uses by the ASHRAE engineering society can = be defined in the future. >>=20 >> Thank you for your consideration, >> Dave Robin >> Editor, BACnet Web Services >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> wellknown-uri-review mailing list >> wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wellknown-uri-review >=20 > -- > Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ >=20 --Apple-Mail=_08B5F56F-30CE-4521-A3B7-165BFCA0FE7B Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii On Jan 19, 2016, at 12:02 AM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> = wrote:
Hi Dave,
Looks good. Do you mind if we omit the = 'related information' in the registry entry?

Not at all. =  That was for your benefit. I didn't intend that to be part of the = registry.  My mistake.

One = issue... a bit of a chicken and egg, actually.  Since we are a = overly-careful publicly-reviewed ANSI and ISO standard, some folks did = not want to publish the standard until the postfix was registered, but = if the registration contains a "Specification Document" that points to = pre-publication public review version of our standard, they don't like = that either!  dueling dependencies!

You see, that link I included is to bacnet.org, which is a kind of = a staging area for what will eventually be published at ashrae.org

So, the questions are: 
after = registration...
1) what is the procedure to update the = "Specification Document" when we get a fully published = version?
2) can we list *two* specification documents? =  (some folks might prefer to get the ISO standard rather then the = ANSI/ASHRAE one).

Thanks!
Dave



Cheers,



On 19 Jan 2016, at 10:58 am, Dave Robin <dave@daverobin.com> = wrote:

Greetings,

As part of our on-going development of standard protocols for = building automation, we are requesting a /.well-known suffix. (We have = already registered the needed Content-Types mentioned in the referenced = document)

URI suffix:  "ashrae"

Change controller:  American Society of = Heating, Refrigeration, and Air-conditioning Engineers (ASHRAE) www.ashrae.org

Specification document(s):  http://www.bacnet.org/Addenda/Add-135-2012am-ppr3-draft-17_chai= r_approved.pdf

Related information: =  The referenced document is a new version of BACnet/WS (Building = Automation and Control network / Web Services). BACnet (ANSI/ASHRAE = Standard 135 and ISO Standard 16484-5) is the dominant protocol for = commercial, industrial, and institutional building automation and = control.  The primary protocol is based on binary encoded ASN.1 = data structures.  This is a RESTful JSON and XML versions of that, = plus numerous web-services-only features.  Initially, we need a way = to discover URI prefixes for the resources on a given BACnet/WS server. =  However, this /.well-known is being requested for "ashrae", rather = than just "bacnet", so that other uses by the ASHRAE engineering society = can be defined in the future.

Thank you for = your consideration,
Dave Robin
Editor, = BACnet Web Services

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= --Apple-Mail=_08B5F56F-30CE-4521-A3B7-165BFCA0FE7B-- From nobody Mon Jan 18 22:42:10 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wellknown-uri-review@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wellknown-uri-review@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBD061AC42E for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 22:42:08 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.602 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.602 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ZieTdglOx8Z6 for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 22:42:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxout-07.mxes.net (mxout-07.mxes.net [216.86.168.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6C8D71AC42A for ; Mon, 18 Jan 2016 22:42:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [120.149.194.112]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 31FE122E1F4; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 01:41:46 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: Request for well-known URI: ashrae From: Mark Nottingham In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 17:41:44 +1100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <38181654-4E85-4F65-8C96-4ADED469AE67@mnot.net> References: <7F33E16D-3444-452A-A10C-72672CB467C5@daverobin.com> <61929FD6-8A4E-44CA-8CE7-4167F3A88062@mnot.net> To: Dave Robin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org X-BeenThere: wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Well-Known URI review list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 06:42:08 -0000 > On 19 Jan 2016, at 5:39 pm, Dave Robin wrote: >=20 > On Jan 19, 2016, at 12:02 AM, Mark Nottingham wrote: >> Hi Dave, >> Looks good. Do you mind if we omit the 'related information' in the = registry entry? >=20 > Not at all. That was for your benefit. I didn't intend that to be = part of the registry. My mistake. No worries. > One issue... a bit of a chicken and egg, actually. Since we are a = overly-careful publicly-reviewed ANSI and ISO standard, some folks did = not want to publish the standard until the postfix was registered, but = if the registration contains a "Specification Document" that points to = pre-publication public review version of our standard, they don't like = that either! dueling dependencies! >=20 > You see, that link I included is to bacnet.org, which is a kind of a = staging area for what will eventually be published at ashrae.org.=20 >=20 > So, the questions are:=20 > after registration... > 1) what is the procedure to update the "Specification Document" when = we get a fully published version? Just send another e-mail, updates aren't an issue. > 2) can we list *two* specification documents? (some folks might = prefer to get the ISO standard rather then the ANSI/ASHRAE one). Hmm. We can ask IANA to do that, and if it's not possible, to put the = second one in the "related information" field. If the latter happens, do = you have a preference for which goes there? Cheers, >=20 > Thanks! > Dave >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> Cheers,=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >>> On 19 Jan 2016, at 10:58 am, Dave Robin wrote: >>>=20 >>> Greetings,=20 >>>=20 >>> As part of our on-going development of standard protocols for = building automation, we are requesting a /.well-known suffix. (We have = already registered the needed Content-Types mentioned in the referenced = document) >>>=20 >>> URI suffix: "ashrae" >>>=20 >>> Change controller: American Society of Heating, Refrigeration, and = Air-conditioning Engineers (ASHRAE) www.ashrae.org >>>=20 >>> Specification document(s): = http://www.bacnet.org/Addenda/Add-135-2012am-ppr3-draft-17_chair_approved.= pdf >>>=20 >>> Related information: The referenced document is a new version of = BACnet/WS (Building Automation and Control network / Web Services). = BACnet (ANSI/ASHRAE Standard 135 and ISO Standard 16484-5) is the = dominant protocol for commercial, industrial, and institutional building = automation and control. The primary protocol is based on binary encoded = ASN.1 data structures. This is a RESTful JSON and XML versions of that, = plus numerous web-services-only features. Initially, we need a way to = discover URI prefixes for the resources on a given BACnet/WS server. = However, this /.well-known is being requested for "ashrae", rather than = just "bacnet", so that other uses by the ASHRAE engineering society can = be defined in the future. >>>=20 >>> Thank you for your consideration, >>> Dave Robin >>> Editor, BACnet Web Services >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> wellknown-uri-review mailing list >>> wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wellknown-uri-review >>=20 >> -- >> Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ >>=20 >=20 -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ From nobody Tue Jan 19 21:15:27 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wellknown-uri-review@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wellknown-uri-review@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D7C51A2119 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 21:15:26 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.602 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.602 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 9j0jR7AFow-p for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 21:15:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxout-07.mxes.net (mxout-07.mxes.net [216.86.168.182]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B9A3B1A1F02 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 2016 21:15:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.101] (unknown [120.149.194.112]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.mxes.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0508522E274; Wed, 20 Jan 2016 00:15:22 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Nottingham Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Well-Known URI registration - ashrae Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 16:15:19 +1100 Message-Id: <546E0001-9E7A-4B44-9B45-CDA3550AACCE@mnot.net> To: iana@iana.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org X-BeenThere: wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Well-Known URI review list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 05:15:26 -0000 IANA, The following entry is approved for the Well-Known URI registry. URI suffix: "ashrae" Change controller: American Society of Heating, Refrigeration, and = Air-conditioning Engineers (ASHRAE) www.ashrae.org Specification document(s): = http://www.bacnet.org/Addenda/Add-135-2012am-ppr3-draft-17_chair_approved.= pdf Related information: Regards, -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/ From geoffroy.carrier@gmail.com Mon Jan 25 22:44:12 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wellknown-uri-review@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wellknown-uri-review@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 594BA1B2FA4 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:44:12 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.278 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.278 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id GnQ9bkzOx-FZ for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:44:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vk0-x234.google.com (mail-vk0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2081F1B2FA3 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:44:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-vk0-x234.google.com with SMTP id n1so86581764vkb.3 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:44:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=+WTN6Rmg0bQ+YJPyI93st/hn9+0iKPX7ZM+Dn7Okbqg=; b=t8ZlXO79/UOvCoiWM4ZKHaBlh23Pcfj4cybf/P5anATmpKPaULqp4KMKvCKi/qsJ/n 1Tvgs/BfD6iHrr/pLKf4dS7kmLl0gQZxcc+jzdl+g6r9g2YRqqh4ZggRTJtCVmIV1+ML U384L9m5CCcXXRfCZ8PkKJV43PH8PYl29UGqf4IPdWh0ZVKtIZ/H4I+58xLU06rP45Vm yuz1285QgECbVhWW5pTIEvDMglwYXgNnLFSFNIpPXwWCy1QukgB5dB7tTHCgFj2ocLuu 86QseA82XhCq/S6olxEK3IKKXju+lz5Dggc/h0BETvI59Hhoke8IQMLTPIwbGxVNS3bJ ofhQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:from:date:message-id:subject :to:content-type; bh=+WTN6Rmg0bQ+YJPyI93st/hn9+0iKPX7ZM+Dn7Okbqg=; b=mqsoqkYnTEKATgkiGrJCp+BQ64TEsbTM0XFmBL8vNeipbXkd3h1NZNRwIjBP0hyP/c GFhAu2q/Tceg9Elyfz7SYn3BpGB9W2xrrgOesgUdpwB7GuWJuDwa/EKBiTAbaRHaZDOc 0TaH741aysrKWgyCHuvdW25Tx1BzGw+IQRaFj0sRMiF9jOE5Pw3hT5r5IaIL8ZhIPAAA ZqbKEU617SkXUYl12aN3DJ6PFMTW6a3Y1rO1T9nUZLHHzbyDmBm9ha6zbLyffJOCIaY2 r7wMK2dtUbQbd/O5uwDncSJlvhR8iOXx2GhZUMcK0gCYvUZY8WPq/TwqiOF2YFqL9tmr on/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YORrh4i5LvBEOFEhmoAqNkIfRu6vnQ+fOQ6w5q7O91PxcpMXLXgU1QQF0b3iNNIFjJPphCylL0AAOeELrg== X-Received: by 10.31.52.134 with SMTP id b128mr13339254vka.124.1453790650244; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:44:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: geoffroy.carrier@gmail.com Received: by 10.31.58.78 with HTTP; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:43:55 -0800 (PST) From: Pierre Carrier Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:43:55 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: wqx1eTo_PSiNtXp_lz3PXzbVwDE Message-ID: Subject: Request for well-known URI: pcarrier/connstats To: wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Archived-At: X-Mailman-Approved-At: Sat, 30 Jan 2016 18:12:02 -0800 X-BeenThere: wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Well-Known URI review list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 06:51:18 -0000 Hello, I would like to register the well-known URI /.well-known/pcarrier/connstats as specified through http://pcarrier.github.io/meteor-connstats/ and subject to backwards-compatible changes. No idea how much sense it makes to go through IANA assignments for something clearly namespaced and of very little visibility, I figured it was worth trying to respect the RFC. Best, -- Pierre Carrier From nobody Sat Jan 30 18:12:05 2016 Return-Path: X-Original-To: wellknown-uri-review@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: wellknown-uri-review@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 096951A0155 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:56:53 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.278 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.278 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FM_FORGED_GMAIL=0.622, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vju-Ynh9EXDl for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 22:56:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vk0-x22b.google.com (mail-vk0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 35C3F1A00C6 for ; 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charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) Subject: Re: Request for well-known URI: pcarrier/connstats From: Mark Nottingham In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 13:14:29 +1100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6971D267-256B-491F-8F41-1D476EF75234@mnot.net> References: To: Pierre Carrier X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Archived-At: Cc: wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org X-BeenThere: wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Well-Known URI review list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Jan 2016 02:14:35 -0000 Hi Pierre, You can't include a "/" in a registry entry, but you do effectively = control the space "under" a registered name, so you could just register = "pcarrier" and then use "pcarrier/connstats". Having said that -- I don't know if it's a great idea to have folks = registering their usernames here (for a few different reasons). Would = you consider using something like "meteor-connstats"? Cheers, > On 26 Jan 2016, at 5:56 pm, Pierre Carrier wrote: >=20 > URI suffix: "pcarrier/connstats" >=20 > Change controller: Pierre Carrier >=20 > Specification document(s): = https://pcarrier.github.io/meteor-connstats >=20 > _______________________________________________ > wellknown-uri-review mailing list > wellknown-uri-review@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/wellknown-uri-review -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/