From nobody Wed Dec 1 13:49:06 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C1813A0B80; Wed, 1 Dec 2021 13:49:03 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xa2R9cCeUqTc; Wed, 1 Dec 2021 13:48:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1E083A0B7D; Wed, 1 Dec 2021 13:48:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (99-59-193-67.lightspeed.livnmi.sbcglobal.net [99.59.193.67]) by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C15DD1E2F3; Wed, 1 Dec 2021 16:48:55 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_56898F7F-F735-44E7-BC9F-B1489C126B5A" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) From: Jeffrey Haas In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 16:48:55 -0500 Cc: Mahesh Jethanandani , =?utf-8?Q?Martin_Bj=C3=B6rklund?= , "ladislav.lhotka@nic.cz" , "rtg-ads@ietf.org" , "yang-doctors@ietf.org" , Reshad Rahman Message-Id: <500F2826-185B-4820-802A-0BBC125B9549@pfrc.org> References: <0A207FB0-C39F-4198-8565-0BA6542F6E59@pfrc.org> To: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 client-cfg-parms for PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some platforms X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 21:49:04 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_56898F7F-F735-44E7-BC9F-B1489C126B5A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Rob, Thanks for your patience. Mahesh was good enough to help us avoid = coordination issues by getting this centralized in github. https://github.com/mjethanandani/rfc9127-bis/tree/v01/draft = You will find the target draft, and the diff in the above portion of the = repo. What I think the next steps look like: - Yang doctors confirm they're happy with things. - We post the draft and request BFD WG review as part of immediate = last-call and give a few days for that review. - Submit 9127-bis draft and simultaneously request RFC Editor to clear = blocks on pending cluster documents since the issue is resolved without = changes needed. I think the RFC Editor may need to be requested to revert the changes = Acee had started with when we began this. -- Jeff > On Nov 19, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) = wrote: >=20 > Hi Jeff, Mahesh, >=20 > Any update on that diff? >=20 > Thanks, > Rob >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey Haas =20 > Sent: 10 November 2021 23:26 > To: Rob Wilton (rwilton) > Cc: Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund ; ladislav.lhotka@nic.cz; = rtg-ads@ietf.org; yang-doctors@ietf.org; Reshad Rahman = > Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 client-cfg-parms = for PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some platforms >=20 > I spent some time talking to Mahesh this afternoon and think we=E2=80=99= re in sync.=20 >=20 > Expect a complete diff from him soon.=20 >=20 > Jeff >=20 >> On Nov 10, 2021, at 4:42 PM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) = wrote: >>=20 >> =EF=BB=BF[Resending with Reshad's correct address] >>=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> Thanks for the input so far. >>=20 >> Having chatted with Alvaro and John, I believe that we are looking = for a solution such that (1) we know what is being done in RFC 9127bis, = and (2) allows the Auth48 of the protocol drafts to complete so that = they can be published. I.e., it is okay to delay Auth48 by a couple of = weeks so that we know exactly what changes need to be made to the = modules in Auth48, but not to delay publishing of the protocol drafts = until RFC 9217bis has gone through the process. >>=20 >> We would like to reach an agreement on what the plan/changes are no = later than Nov 24th, sooner if possible. >>=20 >> My reading of the consensus so far so that it is acceptable to make = non-backwards-compatible changes to RFC 9217bis, if necessary, but we = should not make non-backwards-compatible changes without a good = justification. >>=20 >> I think, if I understand the proposals correctly, that I'm leaning = towards option (2) that Martin described below. >>=20 >> Regards, >> Rob >>=20 >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund =20 >> Sent: 10 November 2021 15:26 >> To: jhaas@pfrc.org >> Cc: Rob Wilton (rwilton) ; ladislav.lhotka@nic.cz; = rtg-ads@ietf.org; yang-doctors@ietf.org; rrahman@cisco.com >> Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 = client-cfg-parms for PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some = platforms >>=20 >> Jeffrey Haas wrote: >>>> On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 03:24:19PM +0100, Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund = wrote: >>>> I'm not ok with this violation in general, but I am ok with it in = this >>>> particular case. Hence my questions. >>>=20 >>> Understood. >>>=20 >>>> If it turns out that in the end >>>> you modify the AUTH48-docs and wait for the bis anyway, then I = don't >>>> think this is the right way to go. >>>=20 >>> So, your preference is "ship AUTH48 docs unchanged, even though it'd = have a >>> potentially redundant 'feature bfd'"? >>=20 >> Of course my preference is to not violate the upgrade rules, if >> possible. >>=20 >> 1. publish the auth48-docs now with redundant "bfd" feature >> 2. publish the auth48-docs now and remove the redundant "bfd" = feature >> 3. remove the redundant "bfd" feature and wait for -bis >>=20 >> I am not sure I understand what the proposal is at this point (as I >> understood it, your original proposal was (1), but also w/o "bfd" in >> -bis). >>=20 >> With (2), the published docs won't be very useful until the -bis is >> published, right? >>=20 >> In the case of (3), I think it is better to make a proper fix to = -bis. >>=20 >> And in the case of (1), you could as well introduce redundant >> "client-cfg-param" features (as I suggested earlier), and avoid the >> proposed -bis YANG upgrade rule violation. >>=20 >> Anyway, if you still decide to go with (1) or (2), I am ok with the >> proposed -bis. (I prefer (2) over (1)). >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> /martin >=20 --Apple-Mail=_56898F7F-F735-44E7-BC9F-B1489C126B5A Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Rob,

Thanks= for your patience.  Mahesh was good enough to help us avoid = coordination issues by getting this centralized in github.


You will find = the target draft, and the diff in the above portion of the = repo.

What I = think the next steps look like:
- Yang doctors = confirm they're happy with things.
- We post the = draft and request BFD WG review as part of immediate last-call and give = a few days for that review.
- Submit 9127-bis draft = and simultaneously request RFC Editor to clear blocks on pending cluster = documents since the issue is resolved without changes needed.

I think the RFC Editor = may need to be requested to revert the changes Acee had started with = when we began this.

-- Jeff




On Nov = 19, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com> = wrote:

Hi Jeff, Mahesh,

Any update on = that diff?

Thanks,
Rob


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>
Sent: 10 November 2021 = 23:26
To: Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com>
Cc: Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund <mbj+ietf@4668.se>; ladislav.lhotka@nic.cz; rtg-ads@ietf.org; yang-doctors@ietf.org; Reshad Rahman <reshad@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 = client-cfg-parms for PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some = platforms

I spent some time talking to = Mahesh this afternoon and think we=E2=80=99re in sync.

Expect a complete diff from him soon.

Jeff

On Nov 10, 2021, at 4:42 PM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com> = wrote:

=EF=BB=BF[Resending with Reshad's = correct address]

Hi,

Thanks for the input so far.

Having chatted with Alvaro and John, I believe that we are = looking for a solution such that (1) we know what is being done in RFC = 9127bis, and (2) allows the Auth48 of the protocol drafts to complete so = that they can be published.  I.e., it is okay to delay Auth48 by a = couple of weeks so that we know exactly what changes need to be made to = the modules in Auth48, but not to delay publishing of the protocol = drafts until RFC 9217bis has gone through the process.

We would like to reach an agreement on what the plan/changes = are no later than Nov 24th, sooner if possible.

My reading of the consensus so far so that it is acceptable = to make non-backwards-compatible changes to RFC 9217bis, if necessary, = but we should not make non-backwards-compatible changes without a good = justification.

I think, if I understand the = proposals correctly, that I'm leaning towards option (2) that Martin = described below.

Regards,
Rob


-----Original = Message-----
From: Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund <mbj+ietf@4668.se>
Sent: 10 November 2021 15:26
To: jhaas@pfrc.org
Cc: Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com>; = ladislav.lhotka@nic.cz; rtg-ads@ietf.org; yang-doctors@ietf.org; rrahman@cisco.com
Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 = client-cfg-parms for PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some = platforms

Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> = wrote:
On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 03:24:19PM +0100, = Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund wrote:
I'm not ok with this = violation in general, but I am ok with it in this
particular= case.  Hence my questions.

Understood.

If it turns out that in the end
you= modify the AUTH48-docs and wait for the bis anyway, then I don't
think this is the right way to go.

So, your preference is "ship = AUTH48 docs unchanged, even though it'd have a
potentially = redundant 'feature bfd'"?

Of = course my preference is to not violate the upgrade rules, if
possible.

1.  publish the = auth48-docs now with redundant "bfd" feature
2. =  publish the auth48-docs now and remove the redundant "bfd" = feature
3.  remove the redundant "bfd" feature and = wait for -bis

I am not sure I understand = what the proposal is at this point (as I
understood it, = your original proposal was (1), but also w/o "bfd" in
-bis).

With (2), the published = docs won't be very useful until the -bis is
published, = right?

In the case of (3), I think it is = better to make a proper fix to -bis.

And in = the case of (1), you could as well introduce redundant
"client-cfg-param" features (as I suggested earlier), and = avoid the
proposed -bis YANG upgrade rule violation.

Anyway, if you still decide to go with (1) or = (2), I am ok with the
proposed -bis.  (I prefer (2) = over (1)).



/martin


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Archived-At: Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] [IANA #1208742] YANG modules and XML-based registries X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2021 14:05:22 -0000 On 02. 12. 21 14:47, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote: > Could using HTTPS even be simpler ? There is a date in the HTTP header indicated the revision date of the file and this could be useful as well for yangcatalog.org (even if rsynch is probably more efficient) Yes, in iana-yang project [1] I first get the "Last-Modified" header via curl to check if the XML representation of a registry has changed. Lada [1] https://github.com/llhotka/iana-yang > > -éric > > On 29/11/2021, 23:45, "Benoit Claise" wrote: > > Hi Michelle, > > Thanks Benoit (so great to hear from you!) > Yes, I've been missing our IPFIX and YANG registry discussions :-) > > > > Just curious...if ftp.iana.org were not available, would having it only available via rsync be OK? > That would be ok IMO. > Miroslav, do you confirm from an YC.o development point of view? > > Regards, Benoit > > Or would that cause a problem? > > > > Just trying to fully understand the need. > > > > Thanks! > > > > --Michelle > > > > > > On Fri Nov 26 15:05:04 2021, benoit.claise@huawei.com wrote: > >> Hi Michelle, > >> > >> Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. > >> Here is the reason behind this note. > >> At > >> https://www.iana.org/assignments/yang-parameters/yang- > >> parameters.xhtml, > >> you see the column "IANA maintained". > >> How can someone know that there is a new revision for an IANA- > >> maintained > >> YANG module? > >> And if we know, how to retrieve it? > >> Typical example: iana-if-types > >> Hence, the only solution is to have a cron job that will query IANA > >> on > >> regular basis. > >> That's what we do in yangcatalog.org. I believe my initial code was > >> done > >> with rsync. > >> Including Miroslav (and other partners in crime) to double-check this. > >> > >> Regards, Benoit > >> > >> > >> On 10/27/2021 12:51 AM, Michelle Cotton via RT wrote: > >>> Hello Benoit, > >>> > >>> I hope this message finds you well. > >>> > >>> We were just having an internal discussion and had a question for > >>> you. > >>> > >>> On our website for yang modules, we have a note that says the > >>> following: > >>> > >>> "YANG modules are additionally available for bulk retrieval > >>> by Rsync (rsync.iana.org::assignments/yang-parameters/) or > >>> FTP (ftp://ftp.iana.org/assignments/yang-parameters/)." > >>> > >>> Are folks actually using ftp.iana.org to get yang modules? What are > >>> they doing with them? The reason this came up is we are exploring > >>> potentially decommissioning ftp.iana.org, similar to what the IETF > >>> recently did with their ftp server. If it did happen it would be > >>> still a ways in the future. > >>> > >>> Can you provide any insight regarding the use of ftp.iana.org for > >>> yang modules? > >>> > >>> Thanks in advance. > >>> > >>> Michelle > >>> > >>> ***** > >>> Michelle Cotton > >>> IANA Services > >>> > >>> . > > . > > > _______________________________________________ > yang-doctors mailing list > yang-doctors@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang-doctors > -- Ladislav Lhotka Head, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: 0xB8F92B08A9F76C67 From nobody Fri Dec 3 12:25:16 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B82B3A08C0; Fri, 3 Dec 2021 12:25:13 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.595 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.595 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, 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Rahman Reply-To: Reshad Rahman To: Jeffrey Haas , "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" , "Acee Lindem (acee)" , Mahesh Jethanandani Cc: "rtg-ads@ietf.org" , "yang-doctors@ietf.org" , "yingzhen.qu@futurewei.com" Message-ID: <243299158.236066.1638567521053@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <695D8812-32AC-48DE-ABBC-F4BB54F26A45@cisco.com> References: <0A207FB0-C39F-4198-8565-0BA6542F6E59@pfrc.org> <500F2826-185B-4820-802A-0BBC125B9549@pfrc.org> <695D8812-32AC-48DE-ABBC-F4BB54F26A45@cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_236065_233853676.1638567521050" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19306 YMailNorrin Archived-At: Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 client-cfg-parms for PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some platforms X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2021 21:48:51 -0000 ------=_Part_236065_233853676.1638567521050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The feature name I believe is slightly different: client-cfg-parameters, b= ut I see your point. I can live with the suggestion below although I'm not = sure about "extended". I don't feel strongly about this either. Regards,Reshad (no hat). On Friday, December 3, 2021, 03:25:18 PM EST, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: =20 =20 =20 I don=E2=80=99t feel that strongly but it seems strange that the feature id= entifier, client-cfg-parms, is the same as the existing grouping. It seems = the new feature should be more granular, e.g., extended-client-cfg-parms. =20 Thanks, Acee =20 =C2=A0 =20 From:yang-doctors on behalf of Jeff Haas Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 4:49 PM To: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" Cc: Routing ADs , YANG Doctors Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 client-cfg-parms for = PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some platforms =20 =C2=A0 =20 Rob, =20 =C2=A0 =20 Thanks for your patience. =C2=A0Mahesh was good enough to help us avoid coo= rdination issues by getting this centralized in github. =20 =C2=A0 =20 https://github.com/mjethanandani/rfc9127-bis/tree/v01/draft =20 =C2=A0 =20 You will find the target draft, and the diff in the above portion of the re= po. =20 =C2=A0 =20 What I think the next steps look like: =20 - Yang doctors confirm they're happy with things. =20 - We post the draft and request BFD WG review as part of immediate last-cal= l and give a few days for that review. =20 - Submit 9127-bis draft and simultaneously request RFC Editor to clear bloc= ks on pending cluster documents since the issue is resolved without changes= needed. =20 =C2=A0 =20 I think the RFC Editor may need to be requested to revert the changes Acee = had started with when we began this. =20 =C2=A0 =20 -- Jeff =20 =C2=A0 =20 =C2=A0 =20 =C2=A0 =20 =20 On Nov 19, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) wrote= : =20 =C2=A0 =20 Hi Jeff, Mahesh, Any update on that diff? Thanks, Rob -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey Haas =20 Sent: 10 November 2021 23:26 To: Rob Wilton (rwilton) Cc: Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund ; ladislav.lhotka@nic.cz; rtg-a= ds@ietf.org;yang-doctors@ietf.org; Reshad Rahman Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 client-cfg-parms for = PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some platforms I spent some time talking to Mahesh this afternoon and think we=E2=80=99re = in sync.=20 Expect a complete diff from him soon.=20 Jeff =20 On Nov 10, 2021, at 4:42 PM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) wrote= : [Resending with Reshad's correct address] Hi, Thanks for the input so far. Having chatted with Alvaro and John, I believe that we are looking for a so= lution such that (1) we know what is being done in RFC 9127bis, and (2) all= ows the Auth48 of the protocol drafts to complete so that they can be publi= shed. =C2=A0I.e., it is okay to delay Auth48 by a couple of weeks so that w= e know exactly what changes need to be made to the modules in Auth48, but n= ot to delay publishing of the protocol drafts until RFC 9217bis has gone th= rough the process. We would like to reach an agreement on what the plan/changes are no later t= han Nov 24th, sooner if possible. My reading of the consensus so far so that it is acceptable to make non-bac= kwards-compatible changes to RFC 9217bis, if necessary, but we should not m= ake non-backwards-compatible changes without a good justification. I think, if I understand the proposals correctly, that I'm leaning towards = option (2) that Martin described below. Regards, Rob -----Original Message----- From: Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund =20 Sent: 10 November 2021 15:26 To: jhaas@pfrc.org Cc: Rob Wilton (rwilton) ;ladislav.lhotka@nic.cz; rtg-ad= s@ietf.org; yang-doctors@ietf.org;rrahman@cisco.com Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 client-cfg-parms for = PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some platforms Jeffrey Haas wrote: =20 On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 03:24:19PM +0100, Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund wrote: I'm not ok with this violation in general, but I am ok with it in this particular case. =C2=A0Hence my questions. =20 Understood. =20 If it turns out that in the end you modify the AUTH48-docs and wait for the bis anyway, then I don't think this is the right way to go. =20 So, your preference is "ship AUTH48 docs unchanged, even though it'd have a potentially redundant 'feature bfd'"? =20 Of course my preference is to not violate the upgrade rules, if possible. 1. =C2=A0publish the auth48-docs now with redundant "bfd" feature 2. =C2=A0publish the auth48-docs now and remove the redundant "bfd" feature 3. =C2=A0remove the redundant "bfd" feature and wait for -bis I am not sure I understand what the proposal is at this point (as I understood it, your original proposal was (1), but also w/o "bfd" in -bis). With (2), the published docs won't be very useful until the -bis is published, right? In the case of (3), I think it is better to make a proper fix to -bis. And in the case of (1), you could as well introduce redundant "client-cfg-param" features (as I suggested earlier), and avoid the proposed -bis YANG upgrade rule violation. Anyway, if you still decide to go with (1) or (2), I am ok with the proposed -bis. =C2=A0(I prefer (2) over (1)). /martin =20 =C2=A0 =20 =C2=A0 _______________________________________________ yang-doctors mailing list yang-doctors@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang-doctors =20 ------=_Part_236065_233853676.1638567521050 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The feature name I believe i= s slightly different: client-cfg-parameters, but I see your point. I can li= ve with the suggestion below although I'm not sure about "extended". I don'= t feel strongly about this either.

Regards,
Reshad (no hat).

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On Friday, December 3, 2021, 03:25:18 PM EST, Acee Lind= em (acee) <acee=3D40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:


I don=E2=80=99t feel that st= rongly but it seems strange that the feature identifier, client-cfg-parms, = is the same as the existing grouping. It seems the new feature should be mo= re granular, e.g., extended-client-cfg-parms.

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Thanks,
Acee

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From: yang-doctors <y= ang-doctors-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Jeff Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org&= gt;
Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 4:49 PM
To: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>
Cc: Routing ADs <rtg-ads@ietf.org>, YANG Doctors <yang-doct= ors@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 client-cfg-par= ms for PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some platforms

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= Rob,

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= Thanks for your patience.  Mahesh was good enough to help us avoid coo= rdination issues by getting this centralized in github.

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= You will find the target draft, and the diff in the above portion of the re= po.

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= What I think the next steps look like:

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= - Yang doctors confirm they're happy with things.

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= - We post the draft and request BFD WG review as part of immediate last-cal= l and give a few days for that review.

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= - Submit 9127-bis draft and simultaneously request RFC Editor to clear bloc= ks on pending cluster documents since the issue is resolved without changes= needed.

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= I think the RFC Editor may need to be requested to revert the changes Acee = had started with when we began this.

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= -- Jeff

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= On Nov 19, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@c= isco.com> wrote:

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= Hi Jeff, Mahesh,

Any update on that diff?

Thanks,
Rob


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>
Sent: 10 November 2021 23:26
To: Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com>
Cc: Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund <mbj+ietf@4668.se>; ladislav.lhotka@nic.cz; rtg-ads@ietf.org; yang-doctors@ietf.org; Reshad Rahman <res= had@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 client-cfg-parms for = PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some platforms

I spent some time talking to Mahesh this afternoon and think we=E2=80=99re = in sync.

Expect a complete diff from him soon.

Jeff


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= On Nov 10, 2021, at 4:42 PM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@c= isco.com> wrote:

[Resending with Reshad's correct address]

Hi,

Thanks for the input so far.

Having chatted with Alvaro and John, I believe that we are looking for a so= lution such that (1) we know what is being done in RFC 9127bis, and (2) all= ows the Auth48 of the protocol drafts to complete so that they can be publi= shed.  I.e., it is okay to delay Auth48 by a couple of weeks so that we know exactly what changes need to b= e made to the modules in Auth48, but not to delay publishing of the protoco= l drafts until RFC 9217bis has gone through the process.

We would like to reach an agreement on what the plan/changes are no later t= han Nov 24th, sooner if possible.

My reading of the consensus so far so that it is acceptable to make non-bac= kwards-compatible changes to RFC 9217bis, if necessary, but we should not m= ake non-backwards-compatible changes without a good justification.

I think, if I understand the proposals correctly, that I'm leaning towards = option (2) that Martin described below.

Regards,
Rob


-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund <mbj+ietf@4668.se>
Sent: 10 November 2021 15:26
To: jhaas@pfrc.org
Cc: Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com>; ladislav.lhotka@nic.cz; rtg-ads@ietf.org; yang-doctors@ietf.org; rrahman@cisco.com
Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 client-cfg-parms for = PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some platforms

Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> wrote:

=20

= On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 03:24:19PM +0100, Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund wrote:
I'm not ok with this violation in general, but I am ok with it in this
particular case.  Hence my questions.

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=
Understood.


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= If it turns out that in the end
you modify the AUTH48-docs and wait for the bis anyway, then I don't
think this is the right way to go.

=20

=
So, your preference is "ship AUTH48 docs unchanged, even though it'd have a=
potentially redundant 'feature bfd'"?

=20

=
Of course my preference is to not violate the upgrade rules, if
possible.

1.  publish the auth48-docs now with redundant "bfd" feature
2.  publish the auth48-docs now and remove the redundant "bfd" feature=
3.  remove the redundant "bfd" feature and wait for -bis

I am not sure I understand what the proposal is at this point (as I
understood it, your original proposal was (1), but also w/o "bfd" in
-bis).

With (2), the published docs won't be very useful until the -bis is
published, right?

In the case of (3), I think it is better to make a proper fix to -bis.

And in the case of (1), you could as well introduce redundant
"client-cfg-param" features (as I suggested earlier), and avoid the
proposed -bis YANG upgrade rule violation.

Anyway, if you still decide to go with (1) or (2), I am ok with the
proposed -bis.  (I prefer (2) over (1)).



/martin

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[69.181.169.15]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id i193sm4184944pfe.87.2021.12.03.14.08.27 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 03 Dec 2021 14:08:27 -0800 (PST) From: Mahesh Jethanandani Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_413E17AD-1CF6-4B67-9B5D-4056957F7F17" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Date: Fri, 3 Dec 2021 14:08:26 -0800 In-Reply-To: <243299158.236066.1638567521053@mail.yahoo.com> Cc: Jeffrey Haas , Robert Wilton , "Acee Lindem (acee)" , "rtg-ads@ietf.org" , "yang-doctors@ietf.org" , "yingzhen.qu@futurewei.com" To: Reshad Rehman References: <0A207FB0-C39F-4198-8565-0BA6542F6E59@pfrc.org> <500F2826-185B-4820-802A-0BBC125B9549@pfrc.org> <695D8812-32AC-48DE-ABBC-F4BB54F26A45@cisco.com> <243299158.236066.1638567521053@mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 client-cfg-parms for PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some platforms X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 03 Dec 2021 22:08:35 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_413E17AD-1CF6-4B67-9B5D-4056957F7F17 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Acee, I agree with Reshad that =E2=80=98extended=E2=80=99 is probably not the = right connotation for the feature statement. The feature allows for = inclusion of BFD client configuration parameters. They are not extending = an already defined set of client configuration parameters. Would it help = to call the feature =E2=80=98bfd-client-cfg-parameters=E2=80=99? Thanks. > On Dec 3, 2021, at 1:38 PM, Reshad Rahman wrote: >=20 > The feature name I believe is slightly different: = client-cfg-parameters, but I see your point. I can live with the = suggestion below although I'm not sure about "extended". I don't feel = strongly about this either. >=20 > Regards, > Reshad (no hat). >=20 > On Friday, December 3, 2021, 03:25:18 PM EST, Acee Lindem (acee) = wrote: >=20 >=20 > I don=E2=80=99t feel that strongly but it seems strange that the = feature identifier, client-cfg-parms, is the same as the existing = grouping. It seems the new feature should be more granular, e.g., = extended-client-cfg-parms. >=20 > Thanks, > Acee >=20 > =20 > From: yang-doctors on behalf of Jeff = Haas > Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 4:49 PM > To: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" > Cc: Routing ADs , YANG Doctors = > Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 client-cfg-parms = for PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some platforms >=20 > =20 > Rob, >=20 > =20 > Thanks for your patience. Mahesh was good enough to help us avoid = coordination issues by getting this centralized in github. >=20 > =20 > https://github.com/mjethanandani/rfc9127-bis/tree/v01/draft = > =20 > You will find the target draft, and the diff in the above portion of = the repo. >=20 > =20 > What I think the next steps look like: >=20 > - Yang doctors confirm they're happy with things. >=20 > - We post the draft and request BFD WG review as part of immediate = last-call and give a few days for that review. >=20 > - Submit 9127-bis draft and simultaneously request RFC Editor to clear = blocks on pending cluster documents since the issue is resolved without = changes needed. >=20 > =20 > I think the RFC Editor may need to be requested to revert the changes = Acee had started with when we began this. >=20 > =20 > -- Jeff >=20 > =20 > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Nov 19, 2021, at 4:56 AM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) > wrote: >=20 > =20 > Hi Jeff, Mahesh, >=20 > Any update on that diff? >=20 > Thanks, > Rob >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeffrey Haas >=20 > Sent: 10 November 2021 23:26 > To: Rob Wilton (rwilton) > > Cc: Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund >; ladislav.lhotka@nic.cz = ; rtg-ads@ietf.org = ; yang-doctors@ietf.org = ; Reshad Rahman > > Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 client-cfg-parms = for PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some platforms >=20 > I spent some time talking to Mahesh this afternoon and think we=E2=80=99= re in sync.=20 >=20 > Expect a complete diff from him soon.=20 >=20 > Jeff >=20 >=20 >=20 > On Nov 10, 2021, at 4:42 PM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) > wrote: >=20 > [Resending with Reshad's correct address] >=20 > Hi, >=20 > Thanks for the input so far. >=20 > Having chatted with Alvaro and John, I believe that we are looking for = a solution such that (1) we know what is being done in RFC 9127bis, and = (2) allows the Auth48 of the protocol drafts to complete so that they = can be published. I.e., it is okay to delay Auth48 by a couple of weeks = so that we know exactly what changes need to be made to the modules in = Auth48, but not to delay publishing of the protocol drafts until RFC = 9217bis has gone through the process. >=20 > We would like to reach an agreement on what the plan/changes are no = later than Nov 24th, sooner if possible. >=20 > My reading of the consensus so far so that it is acceptable to make = non-backwards-compatible changes to RFC 9217bis, if necessary, but we = should not make non-backwards-compatible changes without a good = justification. >=20 > I think, if I understand the proposals correctly, that I'm leaning = towards option (2) that Martin described below. >=20 > Regards, > Rob >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund >=20 > Sent: 10 November 2021 15:26 > To: jhaas@pfrc.org > Cc: Rob Wilton (rwilton) >; ladislav.lhotka@nic.cz = ; rtg-ads@ietf.org = ; yang-doctors@ietf.org = ; rrahman@cisco.com = > Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 client-cfg-parms = for PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some platforms >=20 > Jeffrey Haas > wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 03:24:19PM +0100, Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund wrote: > I'm not ok with this violation in general, but I am ok with it in this > particular case. Hence my questions. >=20 >=20 > Understood. >=20 >=20 >=20 > If it turns out that in the end > you modify the AUTH48-docs and wait for the bis anyway, then I don't > think this is the right way to go. >=20 >=20 > So, your preference is "ship AUTH48 docs unchanged, even though it'd = have a > potentially redundant 'feature bfd'"? >=20 >=20 > Of course my preference is to not violate the upgrade rules, if > possible. >=20 > 1. publish the auth48-docs now with redundant "bfd" feature > 2. publish the auth48-docs now and remove the redundant "bfd" feature > 3. remove the redundant "bfd" feature and wait for -bis >=20 > I am not sure I understand what the proposal is at this point (as I > understood it, your original proposal was (1), but also w/o "bfd" in > -bis). >=20 > With (2), the published docs won't be very useful until the -bis is > published, right? >=20 > In the case of (3), I think it is better to make a proper fix to -bis. >=20 > And in the case of (1), you could as well introduce redundant > "client-cfg-param" features (as I suggested earlier), and avoid the > proposed -bis YANG upgrade rule violation. >=20 > Anyway, if you still decide to go with (1) or (2), I am ok with the > proposed -bis. (I prefer (2) over (1)). >=20 >=20 >=20 > /martin >=20 > =20 > =20 > _______________________________________________ > yang-doctors mailing list >=20 > yang-doctors@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang-doctors = >=20 Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com --Apple-Mail=_413E17AD-1CF6-4B67-9B5D-4056957F7F17 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi = Acee,

I agree with = Reshad that =E2=80=98extended=E2=80=99 is probably not the right = connotation for the feature statement. The feature allows for inclusion = of BFD client configuration parameters. They are not extending an = already defined set of client configuration parameters. Would it help to = call the feature =E2=80=98bfd-client-cfg-parameters=E2=80=99?

Thanks.

On Dec = 3, 2021, at 1:38 PM, Reshad Rahman <reshad@yahoo.com> wrote:

The feature = name I believe is slightly different: client-cfg-parameters, but I see = your point. I can live with the suggestion below although I'm not sure = about "extended". I don't feel strongly about this either.

Regards,
Reshad (no hat).

=20
=20
On Friday, December 3, 2021, 03:25:18 PM EST, Acee = Lindem (acee) <acee=3D40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:


I don=E2=80=99t feel that = strongly but it seems strange that the feature identifier, = client-cfg-parms, is the same as the existing grouping. It seems the new = feature should be more granular, e.g., extended-client-cfg-parms.

Thanks,
Acee

 
=20

From: yang-doctors = <yang-doctors-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Jeff Haas = <jhaas@pfrc.org> Date: Wednesday, December 1, 2021 at 4:49 PM
To: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>
Cc: Routing ADs <rtg-ads@ietf.org>, YANG Doctors <yang-doctors@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 = client-cfg-parms for PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some = platforms

=20
 
=20

Rob,

=20
 
=20

Thanks for your patience. =  Mahesh was good enough to help us avoid coordination issues by = getting this centralized in github.

=20
 
=20
 
=20

You will find the target = draft, and the diff in the above portion of the repo.

=20
 
=20

What I think the next steps = look like:

=20

- Yang doctors confirm = they're happy with things.

=20

- We post the draft and = request BFD WG review as part of immediate last-call and give a few days = for that review.

=20

- Submit 9127-bis draft and = simultaneously request RFC Editor to clear blocks on pending cluster = documents since the issue is resolved without changes needed.

=20
 
=20

I think the RFC Editor may = need to be requested to revert the changes Acee had started with when we = began this.

=20
 
=20

-- Jeff

=20
 
=20
 
=20
 
=20


=

=20

On Nov 19, 2021, at 4:56 AM, = Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com> wrote:

=20
 
=20

Hi Jeff, Mahesh,

Any update on that diff?

Thanks,
Rob


-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>
Sent: 10 November 2021 23:26
To: Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com>
Cc: Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund <mbj+ietf@4668.se>; ladislav.lhotka@nic.cz; rtg-ads@ietf.org; yang-doctors@ietf.org; Reshad Rahman = <reshad@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 client-cfg-parms = for PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some platforms

I spent some time talking to Mahesh this afternoon and think we=E2=80=99re= in sync.

Expect a complete diff from him soon.

Jeff


=20

On= Nov 10, 2021, at 4:42 PM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com> wrote:

[Resending with Reshad's correct address]

Hi,

Thanks for the input so far.

Having chatted with Alvaro and John, I believe that we are looking for a = solution such that (1) we know what is being done in RFC 9127bis, and = (2) allows the Auth48 of the protocol drafts to complete so that they = can be published.  I.e., it is okay to delay Auth48 by a couple of weeks so that we know exactly what changes need = to be made to the modules in Auth48, but not to delay publishing of the = protocol drafts until RFC 9217bis has gone through the process.

We would like to reach an agreement on what the plan/changes are no = later than Nov 24th, sooner if possible.

My reading of the consensus so far so that it is acceptable to make = non-backwards-compatible changes to RFC 9217bis, if necessary, but we = should not make non-backwards-compatible changes without a good = justification.

I think, if I understand the proposals correctly, that I'm leaning = towards option (2) that Martin described below.

Regards,
Rob


-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund <mbj+ietf@4668.se>
Sent: 10 November 2021 15:26
To: jhaas@pfrc.org
Cc: Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com>; ladislav.lhotka@nic.cz; rtg-ads@ietf.org; yang-doctors@ietf.org; rrahman@cisco.com
Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 client-cfg-parms = for PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some platforms

Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> = wrote:

=20

On= Wed, Nov 10, 2021 at 03:24:19PM +0100, Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund wrote:
I'm not ok with this violation in general, but I am ok with it in = this
particular case.  Hence my questions.

=20


= Understood.


=20

If= it turns out that in the end
you modify the AUTH48-docs and wait for the bis anyway, then I don't
think this is the right way to go.

=20


= So, your preference is "ship AUTH48 docs unchanged, even though it'd = have a
potentially redundant 'feature bfd'"?

=20


= Of course my preference is to not violate the upgrade rules, if
possible.

1.  publish the auth48-docs now with redundant "bfd" feature
2.  publish the auth48-docs now and remove the redundant "bfd" = feature
3.  remove the redundant "bfd" feature and wait for -bis

I am not sure I understand what the proposal is at this point (as I
understood it, your original proposal was (1), but also w/o "bfd" in
-bis).

With (2), the published docs won't be very useful until the -bis is
published, right?

In the case of (3), I think it is better to make a proper fix to = -bis.

And in the case of (1), you could as well introduce redundant
"client-cfg-param" features (as I suggested earlier), and avoid the
proposed -bis YANG upgrade rule violation.

Anyway, if you still decide to go with (1) or (2), I am ok with the
proposed -bis.  (I prefer (2) over (1)).



/martin

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from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD9A13A0A53; Mon, 6 Dec 2021 05:30:14 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id bmQkla7EUfNQ; Mon, 6 Dec 2021 05:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384693A0A51; Mon, 6 Dec 2021 05:30:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 66AA81E2F5; Mon, 6 Dec 2021 08:30:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 08:30:11 -0500 From: Jeffrey Haas To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" Cc: Mahesh Jethanandani , Reshad Rehman , "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" , "rtg-ads@ietf.org" , "yang-doctors@ietf.org" , "yingzhen.qu@futurewei.com" Message-ID: <20211206133010.GA993@pfrc.org> References: <0A207FB0-C39F-4198-8565-0BA6542F6E59@pfrc.org> <500F2826-185B-4820-802A-0BBC125B9549@pfrc.org> <695D8812-32AC-48DE-ABBC-F4BB54F26A45@cisco.com> <243299158.236066.1638567521053@mail.yahoo.com> <7C2E7F88-35A6-4911-A7DC-232978B6203B@cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <7C2E7F88-35A6-4911-A7DC-232978B6203B@cisco.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 client-cfg-parms for PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some platforms X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2021 13:30:15 -0000 On Fri, Dec 03, 2021 at 11:10:45PM +0000, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > How about client-base-cfg-parms since that matches the base-cfg-parms > grouping? I'm supportive of that name. > In all honesty, I think the worse thing we can do is obsess > about this… You guys have much more disposable time than me and I don’t > want to debate this ad infinitum. The lesson ADs learn is "don't comment on it unless you want the responses". :-) Mahesh, Reshad, if we're good on this change my recommendation is to post the draft as draft-ietf-bfd-rfc9127-bis and we'll see what we can do to push this through WG review. -- Jeff From nobody Mon Dec 6 05:33:05 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DFAC3A0A74 for ; Mon, 6 Dec 2021 05:33:04 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Mon, 6 Dec 2021 13:32:59 +0000 Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2021 13:32:49 +0000 (UTC) From: Reshad Rahman Reply-To: Reshad Rahman To: "Acee Lindem (acee)" , Jeffrey Haas Cc: Mahesh Jethanandani , "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" , "rtg-ads@ietf.org" , "yang-doctors@ietf.org" , "yingzhen.qu@futurewei.com" Message-ID: <857018355.3011084.1638797569575@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <20211206133010.GA993@pfrc.org> References: <0A207FB0-C39F-4198-8565-0BA6542F6E59@pfrc.org> <500F2826-185B-4820-802A-0BBC125B9549@pfrc.org> <695D8812-32AC-48DE-ABBC-F4BB54F26A45@cisco.com> <243299158.236066.1638567521053@mail.yahoo.com> <7C2E7F88-35A6-4911-A7DC-232978B6203B@cisco.com> <20211206133010.GA993@pfrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3011083_1010900160.1638797569574" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19306 YMailNorrin Archived-At: Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Dealing with BFD RFC 9127 client-cfg-parms for PIM, OSPF, ISIS and other BFD clients on some platforms X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2021 13:33:04 -0000 ------=_Part_3011083_1010900160.1638797569574 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes client-base-cfg-parms is good with me. Regards,Reshad. On Monday, December 6, 2021, 08:30:14 AM EST, Jeffrey Haas wrote: =20 =20 On Fri, Dec 03, 2021 at 11:10:45PM +0000, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > How about client-base-cfg-parms since that matches the base-cfg-parms > grouping? I'm supportive of that name. >=C2=A0 In all honesty, I think the worse thing we can do is obsess > about this=E2=80=A6 You guys have much more disposable time than me and I= don=E2=80=99t > want to debate this ad infinitum. The lesson ADs learn is "don't comment on it unless you want the responses"= . :-) Mahesh, Reshad, if we're good on this change my recommendation is to post the draft as draft-ietf-bfd-rfc9127-bis and we'll see what we can do to pus= h this through WG review. -- Jeff =20 ------=_Part_3011083_1010900160.1638797569574 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes client-base-cfg-parms is= good with me.

Regards,
Reshad.

=20
=20
On Monday, December 6, 2021, 08:30:14 AM EST, Jeffrey H= aas <jhaas@pfrc.org> wrote:


On Fri, Dec 03, 2021 at 11:10:45PM +0000, Acee Lindem = (acee) wrote:
> How about client-base-cfg-parms since = that matches the base-cfg-parms
> grouping?

I'm supportive of that name.

>  In all honesty, I think the worse thing we c= an do is obsess
> about this=E2=80=A6 You guys have mu= ch more disposable time than me and I don=E2=80=99t
> = want to debate this ad infinitum.

The = lesson ADs learn is "don't comment on it unless you want the responses".:-)

Mahesh, Reshad, if= we're good on this change my recommendation is to post
t= he draft as draft-ietf-bfd-rfc9127-bis and we'll see what we can do to push=
this through WG review.


-= - Jeff
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On Dec 6, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> = wrote:

Mahesh, Reshad, if we're good on = this change my recommendation is to post
the draft as draft-ietf-bfd-rfc9127-bis and we'll see what we = can do to push
this through WG review.

Done.


Mahesh = Jethanandani






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Thu, 9 Dec 2021 14:12:16 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id aS04JRM1tris; Thu, 9 Dec 2021 14:12:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D6CB3A10E7; Thu, 9 Dec 2021 14:12:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 09FCB1E328; Thu, 9 Dec 2021 17:12:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2021 17:12:07 -0500 From: Jeffrey Haas To: yang-doctors@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-bfd-rfc9127-bis@ietf.org, ietfa@btconnect.com Message-ID: <20211209221207.GC22655@pfrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Subject: [yang-doctors] RFC 9127-bis question - impact of reference clauses in an import statement X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2021 22:12:17 -0000 [Reference message to issue in thread: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-bfd/Ajo-ku8EJxiEnZjdkRfdzGIg59A/ ] YANG doctors, The BFD Working Group is trying to move forward on the RFC 9127-bis work that was previously discussed with you. I believe there is consensus in how we will move forward on the modification to the common configuration grouping and its associated feature statement. This strategy was previously communicated to you all. This is a question about what we put in the -bis document. Previously, the thinking was we did a full re-issue. Tom Petch, in the thread cited above, notes that we minimally can't do part of this because there are modules already delegated to IANA. The discussion about the what the internet-draft text should include from RFC 9127 or not lead to a question I had: Would it not be sufficient to simply issue an update to the ietf-bfd-types module where all of the impact is isolated? Tom's argument is that the form of the import, which contains references to RFC 9127, suggest we really want a re-issue so we point to the proper new RFC. As an example, from module ietf-bfd: : import ietf-bfd-types { : prefix bfd-types; : reference : "RFC 9127: YANG Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding : Detection (BFD)"; : } As best I am able to tell from RFC 7950, 7.21.4, reference is partially meant to be informational. If it was normative, an update to any module imported by another with a reference would require an update. Note that this isn't an import by revision. My question is thus what are the rules to issue module updates in such circumstances? 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RFC 9127 that we are = proposing. You might want to ignore the boiler template and the Section = name changes, which we will get the RFC editor to fix. > On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Jeffrey Haas wrote: >=20 > [Reference message to issue in thread: > = https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-bfd/Ajo-ku8EJxiEnZjdkRfdzGIg59A/= ] >=20 > YANG doctors, >=20 > The BFD Working Group is trying to move forward on the RFC 9127-bis = work > that was previously discussed with you. I believe there is consensus = in how > we will move forward on the modification to the common configuration > grouping and its associated feature statement. This strategy was = previously > communicated to you all. >=20 > This is a question about what we put in the -bis document. = Previously, the > thinking was we did a full re-issue. Tom Petch, in the thread cited = above, > notes that we minimally can't do part of this because there are = modules > already delegated to IANA. >=20 > The discussion about the what the internet-draft text should include = from > RFC 9127 or not lead to a question I had: Would it not be sufficient = to > simply issue an update to the ietf-bfd-types module where all of the = impact > is isolated? >=20 > Tom's argument is that the form of the import, which contains = references to > RFC 9127, suggest we really want a re-issue so we point to the proper = new RFC. >=20 > As an example, from module ietf-bfd: > : import ietf-bfd-types { > : prefix bfd-types; > : reference > : "RFC 9127: YANG Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding > : Detection (BFD)"; > : } >=20 > As best I am able to tell from RFC 7950, =C2=A7 7.21.4, reference is = partially > meant to be informational. If it was normative, an update to any = module > imported by another with a reference would require an update. >=20 > Note that this isn't an import by revision. >=20 > My question is thus what are the rules to issue module updates in such > circumstances? >=20 > Tom and the BFD YANG authors are copied to make sure I haven't > misrepresented the situation. >=20 > -- Jeff >=20 > _______________________________________________ > yang-doctors mailing list > yang-doctors@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang-doctors Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com --Apple-Mail=_D12D8894-E20E-4179-AD12-7B7061C66E0C Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_66530770-E791-4DD0-BDEE-8180891BA5E5" --Apple-Mail=_66530770-E791-4DD0-BDEE-8180891BA5E5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii And it it helps, here are the set of diffs w.r.t. RFC 9127 that we are proposing. You might want to ignore the boiler template and the Section name changes, which we will get the RFC editor to fix.

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Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF) R. Rahman, Ed. Network Working Group R. Rahman, Ed.
Request for Comments: 9127 Internet-Draft
Category: Standards Track L. Zheng, Ed. Obsoletes: 9127 (if approved) M. Jethanandani, Ed.
ISSN: 2070-1721 Huawei Technologies Intended status: Standards Track Xoriant Corporation
M. Jethanandani, Ed. Expires: 10 June 2022 L. Zheng, Ed.
Xoriant Corporation Huawei Technologies
S. Pallagatti S. Pallagatti
VMware VMware
G. Mirsky G. Mirsky
Ericsson Ericsson
October 2021 7 December 2021
YANG Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) YANG Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD)
draft-ietf-bfd-rfc9127-bis-01
Abstract Abstract
This document defines a YANG data model that can be used to configure This document defines a YANG data model that can be used to configure
and manage Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD). and manage Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD).
The YANG modules in this document conform to the Network Management The YANG modules in this document conform to the Network Management
Datastore Architecture (NMDA) (RFC 8342). Datastore Architecture (NMDA) (RFC 8342).
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Table of Contents Table of Contents
1. Introduction 1. Introduction . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3
1.1. Tree Diagrams 1.1. Tree Diagrams . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
2. Design of the Data Model 2. Design of the Data Model . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4
2.1. Design of the Configuration Model 2.1. Design of the Configuration Model . . . . . . . . . . . . 5
2.1.1. Common BFD Configuration Parameters 2.1.1. Common BFD Configuration Parameters . . . . . . . . . 6
2.1.2. Single-Hop IP 2.1.2. Single-Hop IP . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6
2.1.3. Multihop IP 2.1.3. Multihop IP . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
2.1.4. MPLS Label Switched Paths 2.1.4. MPLS Label Switched Paths . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7
2.1.5. Link Aggregation Groups 2.1.5. Link Aggregation Groups . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 8
2.2. Design of the Operational State Model 2.2. Design of the Operational State Model . . . . . . . . . . 8
2.3. Notifications 2.3. Notifications . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9
2.4. RPC Operations 2.4. RPC Operations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9
2.5. BFD Top-Level Hierarchy 2.5. BFD Top-Level Hierarchy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9
2.6. BFD IP Single-Hop Hierarchy 2.6. BFD IP Single-Hop Hierarchy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9
2.7. BFD IP Multihop Hierarchy 2.7. BFD IP Multihop Hierarchy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11
2.8. BFD-over-LAG Hierarchy 2.8. BFD-over-LAG Hierarchy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 13
2.9. BFD-over-MPLS-LSPs Hierarchy 2.9. BFD-over-MPLS-LSPs Hierarchy . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 16
2.10. Interaction with Other YANG Modules 2.10. Interaction with Other YANG Modules . . . . . . . . . . . 19
2.10.1. "ietf-interfaces" Module 2.10.1. "ietf-interfaces" Module . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19
2.10.2. "ietf-ip" Module 2.10.2. "ietf-ip" Module . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19
2.10.3. "ietf-mpls" Module 2.10.3. "ietf-mpls" Module . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 19
2.11. IANA BFD YANG Module 2.11. IANA BFD YANG Module . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 20
2.12. BFD Types YANG Module 2.12. BFD Types YANG Module . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 23
2.13. BFD Top-Level YANG Module 2.13. BFD Top-Level YANG Module . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 38
2.14. BFD IP Single-Hop YANG Module 2.14. BFD IP Single-Hop YANG Module . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 39
2.15. BFD IP Multihop YANG Module 2.15. BFD IP Multihop YANG Module . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 43
2.16. BFD-over-LAG YANG Module 2.16. BFD-over-LAG YANG Module . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 46
2.17. BFD-over-MPLS YANG Module 2.17. BFD-over-MPLS YANG Module . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 50
3. Data Model Examples 3. Data Model Examples . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 54
3.1. IP Single-Hop 3.1. IP Single-Hop . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 54
3.2. IP Multihop 3.2. IP Multihop . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 55
3.3. LAG 3.3. LAG . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 56
3.4. MPLS 3.4. MPLS . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 57
4. Security Considerations 4. Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 58
5. IANA Considerations 5. IANA Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 62
5.1. IANA-Maintained "iana-bfd-types" Module 5.1. IANA-Maintained "iana-bfd-types" Module . . . . . . . . . 64
6. References 6. References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 64
6.1. Normative References 6.1. References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 64
6.2. Informative References 6.2. References . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 66
Appendix A. Echo Function Configuration Example Appendix A. Echo Function Configuration Example . . . . . . . . 67
A.1. Example YANG Module for BFD Echo Function Configuration A.1. Example YANG Module for BFD Echo Function
Acknowledgments Configuration . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 67
Authors' Addresses Acknowledgments . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 69
Authors' Addresses . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 70
Updates since RFC 9127 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 70
1. Introduction 1. Introduction
This document defines a YANG data model that can be used to configure This document defines a YANG data model that can be used to configure
and manage Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) [RFC5880]. BFD and manage Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) [RFC5880]. BFD
is a network protocol that is used for liveness detection of is a network protocol that is used for liveness detection of
arbitrary paths between systems. Some examples of different types of arbitrary paths between systems. Some examples of different types of
paths over which we have BFD are as follows: paths over which we have BFD are as follows:
1. Two systems directly connected via IP. This is known as BFD over 1. Two systems directly connected via IP. This is known as BFD over
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} }
<CODE ENDS> <CODE ENDS>
2.12. BFD Types YANG Module 2.12. BFD Types YANG Module
This YANG module imports typedefs from [RFC6991] and [RFC8177]. It This YANG module imports typedefs from [RFC6991] and [RFC8177]. It
also imports definitions from [RFC5880], [RFC5881], [RFC5883], also imports definitions from [RFC5880], [RFC5881], [RFC5883],
[RFC5884], and [RFC7130], as well as the "control-plane-protocol" [RFC5884], and [RFC7130], as well as the "control-plane-protocol"
identity from [RFC8349]. identity from [RFC8349].
<CODE BEGINS> file "ietf-bfd-types@2021-10-21.yang" <CODE BEGINS> file "ietf-bfd-types@2021-12-07.yang"
module ietf-bfd-types { module ietf-bfd-types {
yang-version 1.1; yang-version 1.1;
namespace "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-bfd-types"; namespace "urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:yang:ietf-bfd-types";
prefix bfd-types; prefix bfd-types;
import iana-bfd-types { import iana-bfd-types {
prefix iana-bfd-types; prefix iana-bfd-types;
reference reference
"RFC 9127: YANG Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding "RFC 9127: YANG Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding
Detection (BFD)"; Detection (BFD)";
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Relating to IETF Documents Relating to IETF Documents
(https://trustee.ietf.org/license-info). (https://trustee.ietf.org/license-info).
This version of this YANG module is part of RFC 9127; see the This version of this YANG module is part of RFC 9127; see the
RFC itself for full legal notices."; RFC itself for full legal notices.";
reference reference
"RFC 5880: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD) "RFC 5880: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD)
RFC 9127: YANG Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding RFC 9127: YANG Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding
Detection (BFD)"; Detection (BFD)";
revision 2021-12-07 {
description
"9127-bis.";
reference
"RFC XXXX: YANG Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding
Detection (BFD).";
}
revision 2021-10-21 { revision 2021-10-21 {
description description
"Initial revision."; "Initial revision.";
reference reference
"RFC 9127: YANG Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding "RFC 9127: YANG Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding
Detection (BFD)"; Detection (BFD)";
} }
/* /*
* Feature definitions * Feature definitions
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feature echo-mode { feature echo-mode {
description description
"This feature indicates that the server supports BFD Echo "This feature indicates that the server supports BFD Echo
mode."; mode.";
reference reference
"RFC 5880: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD), "RFC 5880: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD),
Section 6.4"; Section 6.4";
} }
feature client-base-cfg-parms {
description
"This feature allows protocol models to configure BFD client
session parameters.";
reference
"RFC XXXX: YANG Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding
Detection (BFD).";
}
/* /*
* Identity definitions * Identity definitions
*/ */
identity bfdv1 { identity bfdv1 {
base rt:control-plane-protocol; base rt:control-plane-protocol;
description description
"BFD protocol version 1."; "BFD protocol version 1.";
reference reference
"RFC 5880: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD)"; "RFC 5880: Bidirectional Forwarding Detection (BFD)";
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grouping client-cfg-parms { grouping client-cfg-parms {
description description
"BFD grouping for configuration parameters "BFD grouping for configuration parameters
used by BFD clients, e.g., IGP or MPLS."; used by BFD clients, e.g., IGP or MPLS.";
leaf enabled { leaf enabled {
type boolean; type boolean;
default "false"; default "false";
description description
"Indicates whether BFD is enabled."; "Indicates whether BFD is enabled.";
} }
uses base-cfg-parms; uses base-cfg-parms {
if-feature "client-base-cfg-parms";
}
} }
grouping common-cfg-parms { grouping common-cfg-parms {
description description
"BFD grouping for common configuration parameters."; "BFD grouping for common configuration parameters.";
uses base-cfg-parms; uses base-cfg-parms;
leaf demand-enabled { leaf demand-enabled {
if-feature "demand-mode"; if-feature "demand-mode";
type boolean; type boolean;
default "false"; default "false";
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This document defines the initial version of the IANA-maintained This document defines the initial version of the IANA-maintained
"iana-bfd-types" YANG module. "iana-bfd-types" YANG module.
The "iana-bfd-types" YANG module mirrors the "BFD Diagnostic Codes" The "iana-bfd-types" YANG module mirrors the "BFD Diagnostic Codes"
and "BFD Authentication Types" registries at and "BFD Authentication Types" registries at
<https://www.iana.org/assignments/bfd-parameters/>. Whenever these <https://www.iana.org/assignments/bfd-parameters/>. Whenever these
registries change, IANA must update the "iana-bfd-types" YANG module. registries change, IANA must update the "iana-bfd-types" YANG module.
6. References 6. References
6.1. Normative References 6.1. References
[RFC3688] Mealling, M., "The IETF XML Registry", BCP 81, RFC 3688, [RFC3688] Mealling, M., "The IETF XML Registry", BCP 81, RFC 3688,
DOI 10.17487/RFC3688, January 2004, DOI 10.17487/RFC3688, January 2004,
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc3688>. <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc3688>.
[RFC5586] Bocci, M., Ed., Vigoureux, M., Ed., and S. Bryant, Ed., [RFC5586] Bocci, M., Ed., Vigoureux, M., Ed., and S. Bryant, Ed.,
"MPLS Generic Associated Channel", RFC 5586, "MPLS Generic Associated Channel", RFC 5586,
DOI 10.17487/RFC5586, June 2009, DOI 10.17487/RFC5586, June 2009,
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc5586>. <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc5586>.
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[RFC8446] Rescorla, E., "The Transport Layer Security (TLS) Protocol [RFC8446] Rescorla, E., "The Transport Layer Security (TLS) Protocol
Version 1.3", RFC 8446, DOI 10.17487/RFC8446, August 2018, Version 1.3", RFC 8446, DOI 10.17487/RFC8446, August 2018,
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8446>. <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8446>.
[RFC8960] Saad, T., Raza, K., Gandhi, R., Liu, X., and V. Beeram, "A [RFC8960] Saad, T., Raza, K., Gandhi, R., Liu, X., and V. Beeram, "A
YANG Data Model for MPLS Base", RFC 8960, YANG Data Model for MPLS Base", RFC 8960,
DOI 10.17487/RFC8960, December 2020, DOI 10.17487/RFC8960, December 2020,
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8960>. <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8960>.
6.2. Informative References 6.2. References
[RFC3031] Rosen, E., Viswanathan, A., and R. Callon, "Multiprotocol [RFC3031] Rosen, E., Viswanathan, A., and R. Callon, "Multiprotocol
Label Switching Architecture", RFC 3031, Label Switching Architecture", RFC 3031,
DOI 10.17487/RFC3031, January 2001, DOI 10.17487/RFC3031, January 2001,
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc3031>. <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc3031>.
[RFC6428] Allan, D., Ed., Swallow, G., Ed., and J. Drake, Ed., [RFC6428] Allan, D., Ed., Swallow, G., Ed., and J. Drake, Ed.,
"Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check, "Proactive Connectivity Verification, Continuity Check,
and Remote Defect Indication for the MPLS Transport and Remote Defect Indication for the MPLS Transport
Profile", RFC 6428, DOI 10.17487/RFC6428, November 2011, Profile", RFC 6428, DOI 10.17487/RFC6428, November 2011,
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Santosh Pallagatti Santosh Pallagatti
VMware VMware
India India
Email: santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com Email: santosh.pallagatti@gmail.com
Greg Mirsky Greg Mirsky
Ericsson Ericsson
Email: gregimirsky@gmail.com Email: gregimirsky@gmail.com
Updates since RFC 9127
This version of the draft updates the 'ietf-bfd-types' module to
define a new feature called 'client-base-cfg-parms and a 'if-feature'
statement that conditionally includes definition of parameters such
as 'multiplier' or 'desired-min-tx-interval'. The feature statement
allows YANG implementations of protocol such as OSPF, ISIS, PIM and
BGP, to support both a model where such parameters are not needed,
such as when multiple BFD sessions are supported over a given
interface, as well as when they need to be defined per session.
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On Dec 9, 2021, at 2:12 PM, Jeffrey Haas = <jhaas@pfrc.org> = wrote:

[Reference message to issue in thread:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-bfd/Ajo-ku8EJxiEnZjdk= RfdzGIg59A/ ]

YANG doctors,

The BFD Working Group is trying to move = forward on the RFC 9127-bis work
that was previously = discussed with you.  I believe there is consensus in how
we will move forward on the modification to the common = configuration
grouping and its associated feature = statement.  This strategy was previously
communicated = to you all.

This is a question about what = we put in the -bis document.  Previously, the
thinking = was we did a full re-issue.  Tom Petch, in the thread cited = above,
notes that we minimally can't do part of this = because there are modules
already delegated to IANA.

The discussion about the what the = internet-draft text should include from
RFC 9127 or not = lead to a question I had: Would it not be sufficient to
simply issue an update to the ietf-bfd-types module where all = of the impact
is isolated?

Tom's argument is that the form of the import, which contains = references to
RFC 9127, suggest we really want a re-issue = so we point to the proper new RFC.

As an = example, from module ietf-bfd:
:  import = ietf-bfd-types {
:    prefix bfd-types;
:    reference
: =      "RFC 9127: YANG Data Model for = Bidirectional Forwarding
: =       Detection (BFD)";
: =  }

As best I am able to tell from RFC = 7950, =C2=A7 7.21.4, reference is partially
meant to be = informational.  If it was normative, an update to any module
imported by another with a reference would require an = update.

Note that this isn't an import by = revision.

My question is thus what are the = rules to issue module updates in such
circumstances?

Tom and the BFD YANG authors are copied to = make sure I haven't
misrepresented the situation.

-- Jeff

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charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks for the changes, Haomian.  On the YYYY note, you might want to = explicitly call out that the RFC number there will be for ietf-layer1-types= .

With the subscriber-l1vc-sls-service-attributes grouping description, I'm still not = sure it accurately reflects what it shows.  I don't see how it provide= s a collection of values.  Rather to me, it looks like a set of SLS at= tributes that provide a way to gauge service performance.

Joe

On 12/9/21 09:50, Zhenghaomian wrote:
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Thank you very much for the review and useful comments. We are accepting al=
l the proposals and please check the diffs from https://github.com/haomianzheng/IETF-ACTN-YANG-Model/pull/91/files=
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We plan to update the draft with latest yang/tree in a week, thanks. =0A=
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Best wishes,=0A=
Haomian=0A=
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I have been asked to review this draft and the L1CSM YANG module it include=
s on behalf of YANG Doctors.  Overall, I think the draft/module is ready, b=
ut I did find a few small issues.  First, please run "pyang -f yang&qu=
ot; on this to normalize its formatting.  There were a few spacing and othe=
r formatting issues that will be cleaned up by doing this.  Other items are=
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In the header of the YANG module, you import ietf-layer1-types with a mark =
of RFCYYYY.  In your comment below calling out RFCXXXX (i.e., this RFC) it =
would be good to point the RFC Editor to YYYY as well.=0A=
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In your identity definition section, you have a number of identity descript=
ions which are self-referential.  Admittedly, this is one of my pet peeves,=
 but if you could add more clarifying description text to identities such a=
s one-way-delay, one-way-errored-second, etc. it would help implementors an=
d operators better consume the YANG module without always needing to refer =
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Can time-interval be uint32 instead of int?  I do not thing a negative time=
 interval is possible/useful here.=0A=
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The description of the grouping subscriber-l1vc-sls-service-attributes does=
n't look accurate.  This is not a value per se, but a collection of attribu=
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In the /services/service list you explicitly have "mandatory true"=
; for the key service-id.  This is not needed since the key is mandatory.=
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Hi, Joe,

 

Thank you for the feed= back. I took another look at MEF 63, how about the following description fo= r subscriber-l1vc-sls-service-attributes grouping?

 

---Description starts-= --

A set of service attri= butes on L1VC Service Level Specification (SLS) that is agreed between the = service provider and the subscriber.

---Description ends---=

 

Best wishes,

Haomian

 

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Joe Clarke (jc= larke) [mailto:jclarke@cisco.com]
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4:<= /span> 2021=C4=EA12=D4=C210=C8=D5 22:20
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Zhenghaomian <zhenghaomian@huawei.com>; yang-doctors@ietf.org=
=B3=AD=CB=CD: ccamp@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang.all@ietf.org; last-call@ietf.= org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: =B4=F0=B8=B4: Yangdoctors last call revie= w of draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-15

 

Thanks for the changes, Haomian= .  On the YYYY note, you might want to explicitly call out that the RF= C number there will be for ietf-layer1-types.

With the subscriber-l1vc-sls-service-attrib= utes grouping description, I'm still not sure it accurately reflects what i= t shows.  I don't see how it provides a collection of values.  Ra= ther to me, it looks like a set of SLS attributes that provide a way to gauge service performance.

Joe

On 12/9/21 09:50, Zhenghaomian = wrote:

Hi Joe, 
 
Thank you very much for the review and useful com=
ments. We are accepting all the proposals and please check the diffs from <=
a href=3D"https://github.com/haomianzheng/IETF-ACTN-YANG-Model/pull/91/file=
s">https://github.com/haomianzheng/IETF-ACTN-YANG-Model/pull/91/files.&=
nbsp; 
 
We plan to update the draft with latest yang/tree=
 in a week, thanks. 
 
Best wishes,
Haomian
 
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=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: yang-doctors@ietf.org
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camp@ietf.org; draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang.all@ietf.org; last-call@ietf.org
=D6=F7=CC=E2: Yangdoctors last call review of dra=
ft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-15
 
Reviewer: Joe Clarke
Review result: Ready with Nits<=
/pre>
 
I have been asked to review this draft and the L1=
CSM YANG module it includes on behalf of YANG Doctors.  Overall, I thi=
nk the draft/module is ready, but I did find a few small issues.  Firs=
t, please run "pyang -f yang" on this to normalize its formatting=
.  There were a few spacing and other formatting issues that will be c=
leaned up by doing this.  Other items are below:
 
In the header of the YANG module, you import ietf=
-layer1-types with a mark of RFCYYYY.  In your comment below calling o=
ut RFCXXXX (i.e., this RFC) it would be good to point the RFC Editor to YYY=
Y as well.
 
=3D=3D=3D
 
In your identity definition section, you have a n=
umber of identity descriptions which are self-referential.  Admittedly=
, this is one of my pet peeves, but if you could add more clarifying descri=
ption text to identities such as one-way-delay, one-way-errored-second, etc=
. it would help implementors and operators better consume the YANG module w=
ithout always needing to refer to external references.
 
=3D=3D=3D
 
Can time-interval be uint32 instead of int? =
 I do not thing a negative time interval is possible/useful here.
 
=3D=3D=3D
 
The description of the grouping subscriber-l1vc-s=
ls-service-attributes doesn't look accurate.  This is not a value per =
se, but a collection of attributes.
 
=3D=3D=3D
 
In the /services/service list you explicitly have=
 "mandatory true" for the key service-id.  This is not neede=
d since the key is mandatory.
 
 
 

 

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quoted-printable Much better.  Thanks.

Joe

On 12/13/21 01:41, Zhenghaomian wrote:

Hi, Joe,

 

Thank you for the feed= back. I took another look at MEF 63, how about the following description fo= r subscriber-l1vc-sls-service-attributes grouping?

 

---Description starts-= --

A set of service attri= butes on L1VC Service Level Specification (SLS) that is agreed between the = service provider and the subscriber.

---Description ends---=

 

Best wishes,

Haomian

 

=B7=A2=BC=FE=C8=CB: Joe Clarke (jc= larke) [mailto:jclarke@cisco.com]
=B7=A2=CB=CD=CA=B1=BC=E4:<= /span> 2021=C4=EA12=D4=C210=C8=D5 22:20
=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: Zhenghaomian <zhenghaomian@huawei.com>; yang-doctors@ietf.org
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=D6=F7=CC=E2: Re: =B4=F0=B8=B4: Yangdoctors last call revie= w of draft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-15

 

Thanks for the changes, Haomian= .  On the YYYY note, you might want to explicitly call out that the RF= C number there will be for ietf-layer1-types.

With the subscriber-l1vc-sls-service-attrib= utes grouping description, I'm still not sure it accurately reflects what i= t shows.  I don't see how it provides a collection of values.  Ra= ther to me, it looks like a set of SLS attributes that provide a way to gauge service performance.

Joe

On 12/9/21 09:50, Zhenghaomian = wrote:

Hi Joe, 
 
Thank you very much for the review and useful com=
ments. We are accepting all the proposals and please check the diffs from <=
a href=3D"https://github.com/haomianzheng/IETF-ACTN-YANG-Model/pull/91/file=
s" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">https://github.com/haomianzheng/IETF-ACTN-YANG-=
Model/pull/91/files.  
 
We plan to update the draft with latest yang/tree=
 in a week, thanks. 
 
Best wishes,
Haomian
 
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=CA=D5=BC=FE=C8=CB: yang-doctors@ietf.org
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=D6=F7=CC=E2: Yangdoctors last call review of dra=
ft-ietf-ccamp-l1csm-yang-15
 
Reviewer: Joe Clarke
Review result: Ready with Nits<=
/pre>
 
I have been asked to review this draft and the L1=
CSM YANG module it includes on behalf of YANG Doctors.  Overall, I thi=
nk the draft/module is ready, but I did find a few small issues.  Firs=
t, please run "pyang -f yang" on this to normalize its formatting=
.  There were a few spacing and other formatting issues that will be c=
leaned up by doing this.  Other items are below:
 
In the header of the YANG module, you import ietf=
-layer1-types with a mark of RFCYYYY.  In your comment below calling o=
ut RFCXXXX (i.e., this RFC) it would be good to point the RFC Editor to YYY=
Y as well.
 
=3D=3D=3D
 
In your identity definition section, you have a n=
umber of identity descriptions which are self-referential.  Admittedly=
, this is one of my pet peeves, but if you could add more clarifying descri=
ption text to identities such as one-way-delay, one-way-errored-second, etc=
. it would help implementors and operators better consume the YANG module w=
ithout always needing to refer to external references.
 
=3D=3D=3D
 
Can time-interval be uint32 instead of int? =
 I do not thing a negative time interval is possible/useful here.
 
=3D=3D=3D
 
The description of the grouping subscriber-l1vc-s=
ls-service-attributes doesn't look accurate.  This is not a value per =
se, but a collection of attributes.
 
=3D=3D=3D
 
In the /services/service list you explicitly have=
 "mandatory true" for the key service-id.  This is not neede=
d since the key is mandatory.
 
 
 

 


--_000_BN9PR11MB53718A604FFB8297ACC49EA9B8749BN9PR11MB5371namp_-- From nobody Tue Dec 14 07:38:12 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670943A0DEA; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 07:38:10 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JTZJSZ0EZnIq; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 07:38:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09D3F3A0DE9; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 07:38:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3ACFF1E2FA; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 10:38:04 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 10:38:03 -0500 From: Jeffrey Haas To: yang-doctors@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-bfd-rfc9127-bis@ietf.org, ietfa@btconnect.com Message-ID: <20211214153803.GA15763@pfrc.org> References: <20211209221207.GC22655@pfrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20211209221207.GC22655@pfrc.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] RFC 9127-bis question - impact of reference clauses in an import statement X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 15:38:11 -0000 Dear YANG doctors, A wonderful end of year holiday gift would be to ship the fix to RFC 9127. Please answer the question below. -- Jeff On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:12:07PM -0500, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > [Reference message to issue in thread: > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-bfd/Ajo-ku8EJxiEnZjdkRfdzGIg59A/ ] > > YANG doctors, > > The BFD Working Group is trying to move forward on the RFC 9127-bis work > that was previously discussed with you. I believe there is consensus in how > we will move forward on the modification to the common configuration > grouping and its associated feature statement. This strategy was previously > communicated to you all. > > This is a question about what we put in the -bis document. Previously, the > thinking was we did a full re-issue. Tom Petch, in the thread cited above, > notes that we minimally can't do part of this because there are modules > already delegated to IANA. > > The discussion about the what the internet-draft text should include from > RFC 9127 or not lead to a question I had: Would it not be sufficient to > simply issue an update to the ietf-bfd-types module where all of the impact > is isolated? > > Tom's argument is that the form of the import, which contains references to > RFC 9127, suggest we really want a re-issue so we point to the proper new RFC. > > As an example, from module ietf-bfd: > : import ietf-bfd-types { > : prefix bfd-types; > : reference > : "RFC 9127: YANG Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding > : Detection (BFD)"; > : } > > As best I am able to tell from RFC 7950, 7.21.4, reference is partially > meant to be informational. If it was normative, an update to any module > imported by another with a reference would require an update. > > Note that this isn't an import by revision. > > My question is thus what are the rules to issue module updates in such > circumstances? > > Tom and the BFD YANG authors are copied to make sure I haven't > misrepresented the situation. > > -- Jeff From nobody Tue Dec 14 08:21:01 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8653A0E30; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 08:21:00 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); 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Tue, 14 Dec 2021 11:20:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 17:20:42 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20211214.172042.1997763003674645526.id@4668.se> To: jhaas@pfrc.org Cc: yang-doctors@ietf.org, ietfa@btconnect.com, draft-ietf-bfd-rfc9127-bis@ietf.org From: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rklund?= In-Reply-To: <20211214153803.GA15763@pfrc.org> References: <20211209221207.GC22655@pfrc.org> <20211214153803.GA15763@pfrc.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Archived-At: Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] RFC 9127-bis question - impact of reference clauses in an import statement X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 16:21:00 -0000 Hi, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > Dear YANG doctors, > = > A wonderful end of year holiday gift would be to ship the fix to RFC = 9127. > = > Please answer the question below. > = > -- Jeff > = > On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:12:07PM -0500, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > > [Reference message to issue in thread: > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/rtg-bfd/Ajo-ku8EJxiEnZjdkRfdz= GIg59A/ ] > > = > > YANG doctors, > > = > > The BFD Working Group is trying to move forward on the RFC 9127-bis= work > > that was previously discussed with you. I believe there is consens= us in how > > we will move forward on the modification to the common configuratio= n > > grouping and its associated feature statement. This strategy was p= reviously > > communicated to you all. > > = > > This is a question about what we put in the -bis document. Previou= sly, the > > thinking was we did a full re-issue. Tom Petch, in the thread cite= d above, > > notes that we minimally can't do part of this because there are mod= ules > > already delegated to IANA. > > = > > The discussion about the what the internet-draft text should includ= e from > > RFC 9127 or not lead to a question I had: Would it not be sufficien= t to > > simply issue an update to the ietf-bfd-types module where all of th= e impact > > is isolated? > > = > > Tom's argument is that the form of the import, which contains refer= ences to > > RFC 9127, suggest we really want a re-issue so we point to the prop= er new RFC. > > = > > As an example, from module ietf-bfd: > > : import ietf-bfd-types { > > : prefix bfd-types; > > : reference > > : "RFC 9127: YANG Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding > > : Detection (BFD)"; > > : } > > = > > As best I am able to tell from RFC 7950, =A7 7.21.4, reference is p= artially > > meant to be informational. If it was normative, an update to any m= odule > > imported by another with a reference would require an update. Correct. > > Note that this isn't an import by revision. > > = > > My question is thus what are the rules to issue module updates in s= uch > > circumstances? In the general case this happens as soon as you publish an update to an published module that is already used. This is fine. What makes this case special is that you plan to (re)publish modules with references to the document that you are replacing. I'm not sure that this is a YANG doctors question... it seems more of a procedural issue. > > = > > Tom and the BFD YANG authors are copied to make sure I haven't > > misrepresented the situation. > > = > > -- Jeff I noted in the diff that Mahesh sent that you have: revision 2021-12-07 { = description = "9127-bis."; = reference = "RFC XXXX: YANG Data Model for Bidirectional Forwarding = Detection (BFD)."; = } The description needs to be updated. Also, the description statement in ietf-bfd-types should be updated to use the new TLP (with "Revised BSD" instead of "Simplified BSD"). ... but then the rest of the modules will have the old language. I don't know if this is acceptable or not. Would it be possible to avoid the problem by not doing a full 9127bis, but just publish an RFC with a new version of ietf-bfd-types? /martin From nobody Tue Dec 14 08:24:20 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BFDC3A0E30; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 08:24:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id UPoT2o9UVJlB; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 08:24:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BC383A0E2F; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 08:24:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 44EC51E2FA; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 11:24:14 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 11:24:13 -0500 From: Jeffrey Haas To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rklund?= Cc: yang-doctors@ietf.org, ietfa@btconnect.com, draft-ietf-bfd-rfc9127-bis@ietf.org Message-ID: <20211214162413.GB15763@pfrc.org> References: <20211209221207.GC22655@pfrc.org> <20211214153803.GA15763@pfrc.org> <20211214.172042.1997763003674645526.id@4668.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20211214.172042.1997763003674645526.id@4668.se> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] RFC 9127-bis question - impact of reference clauses in an import statement X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 16:24:18 -0000 Martin, On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 05:20:42PM +0100, Martin Bjrklund wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:12:07PM -0500, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > Would it be possible to avoid the problem by not doing a full > 9127bis, but just publish an RFC with a new version of ietf-bfd-types? Tom seemed to think that was not acceptable. If this is the acceptable way to handle this, it's likely preferable. -- Jeff From nobody Tue Dec 14 08:59:36 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C883F3A0E77; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 08:59:33 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -3.554 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.554 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_INVALID=0.1, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-1.852, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=fail (1024-bit key) reason="fail (body has been altered)" header.d=btconnect.onmicrosoft.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jf1_U73dAGrC; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 08:59:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from EUR03-DB5-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-db5eur03lp2054.outbound.protection.outlook.com [104.47.10.54]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 421E33A0E76; 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Tom here, The point of the update is to provide a feature so that the published modules (e.g. five such in RFC9127) can stop having deviations, a laudable aim. But if the five published modules reference RFC9127 while importing bfd-types, then the import (no revision) will pick up the latest bfd-types from 9127-bis and so the feature will be available to them, no deviation needed. What will be wrong, for the next five years or so, will be that anyone looking at those five modules in RFC9127, the latest version for those five, will see the import of bfd-types with reference to RFC9127 and will know that that is what they were tested with, developped with, and so will know that the feature should not be used because it is not in the referenced RFC9127 for the import; it might work they will think but should we risk it? (The issue of import and its reference was much discussed during the development of YANG - it is there for guidance, like a SHOULD not a MUST). My alternative is to publish 9127-bis without the IANA module because that is done and dusted, with the new bfd-types with its feature and updating the other five to reference 9127-bis in the import reference to show that it is ok to use the feature in the context of those five modules. That will call for 10 or so more lines of change in 9127-bis to update the five import reference and to ask IANA to update the reference in IANA Considerations for 9127-bis for those five modules to point to 9127-bis Tom Petch > > If this is the acceptable way to handle this, it's likely preferable. > > > -- Jeff > . > From nobody Tue Dec 14 10:19:54 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA21B3A0F5C; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 10:19:52 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.097 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qLhyfw73-wIJ; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 10:19:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-pg1-x532.google.com (mail-pg1-x532.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::532]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1CDE03A0F4D; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 10:19:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-pg1-x532.google.com with SMTP id l18so13283427pgj.9; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 10:19:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=c9URTyMfMaFhrx3yQ6LDKRyMDWMaOQexKMdvmtgbWSU=; b=llh8Ms6ny3JrJx3qgsP2jC7sRZUOkcw3bOu/wa9+LJg1fDreyEQoVGHB1RBu52E658 0gScwOsfI6kIy9Q8Cuj12WeJEquXYOnEepz9IobexZBr4mdTE01iw9BNb7hz61fjVDbs lTYW0pIV/vGM1CXUu6JPyqWV83Decn9Sci0GSc38tYzWkkssTcSiARKyZn9uQSxHwbuH WQcfs50czBeCYMggBXwEVq8Sn/viEmmceVIrTpOeeGP9Q5v1JVWrVKpXGiAbIUy5ICMy v4BpEIePSURfyGOKvgfYcmXa1+2lJJZ3F2qesDb/t9f9RJllLrm5NUFlolkyGhEQGLQO bwUA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=c9URTyMfMaFhrx3yQ6LDKRyMDWMaOQexKMdvmtgbWSU=; b=3KMykBc4sdEFJ382Uv/ShLEdHU/Rf9VxsvVCtqSpRUZeVm+TdlGO5uaOEJH9V+GCX3 r7ALynKIbMIIriavIVqgXADz8+qX55O+qBDBRL9pgD/MpFanPjXOpx/ZSA4hU1zktpYV /l0LsxaJAx+lzErtxiAVVuMKb2eKaBk0YScAIDcdhtpr51QhwInCwMQZfIj7xUY5ViMp Kdw9bWxQLj0bDBiKUICFnaugI3KrUOZ/FvlA4LtZzt0hXiz3RibL6Vy7ACxGT9T6c3Kw Fultu2uZCdD42MSdL2uT1Lc9C7RySxkW44+6L2nJziTyZbKyboUnd/kK/2LedsNYfqfU //Dw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530FL50mKsPt2N9ADoLfKLe7rvLKmPYSwRdenBQEGyJGqkiTn5rg JpbvLUtQRegqQijdHZ0m3w0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz8Es1etJpLJHlFSca4ge5iVlQ99hQlH3KQ89pgMzvbNm/9rSEeof0l5x465o/fiMhW807eQg== X-Received: by 2002:a65:46ce:: with SMTP id n14mr4817632pgr.89.1639505986240; Tue, 14 Dec 2021 10:19:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtpclient.apple (c-69-181-169-15.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [69.181.169.15]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id nh21sm330423pjb.30.2021.12.14.10.19.45 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 14 Dec 2021 10:19:45 -0800 (PST) From: Mahesh Jethanandani Message-Id: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_ADB458D7-3B3D-4918-861E-C33570226FC1" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 10:19:44 -0800 In-Reply-To: <61B8CD65.7070202@btconnect.com> Cc: Jeffrey Haas , =?utf-8?Q?Martin_Bj=C3=B6rklund?= , YANG Doctors , draft-ietf-bfd-rfc9127-bis@ietf.org To: t petch References: <20211209221207.GC22655@pfrc.org> <20211214153803.GA15763@pfrc.org> <20211214.172042.1997763003674645526.id@4668.se> <20211214162413.GB15763@pfrc.org> <61B8CD65.7070202@btconnect.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] RFC 9127-bis question - impact of reference clauses in an import statement X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2021 18:19:53 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_ADB458D7-3B3D-4918-861E-C33570226FC1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Hi Tom, > On Dec 14, 2021, at 8:59 AM, t petch wrote: >=20 > On 14/12/2021 16:24, Jeffrey Haas wrote: >> Martin, >>=20 >> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 05:20:42PM +0100, Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund = wrote: >>>> On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:12:07PM -0500, Jeffrey Haas wrote: >>> Would it be possible to avoid the problem by not doing a full >>> 9127bis, but just publish an RFC with a new version of = ietf-bfd-types? >>=20 >> Tom seemed to think that was not acceptable. >=20 > Tom here, >=20 > The point of the update is to provide a feature so that the published = modules (e.g. five such in RFC9127) can stop having deviations, a = laudable aim. >=20 > But if the five published modules reference RFC9127 while importing = bfd-types, then the import (no revision) will pick up the latest = bfd-types from 9127-bis and so the feature will be available to them, no = deviation needed. >=20 > What will be wrong, for the next five years or so, will be that anyone = looking at those five modules in RFC9127, the latest version for those = five, will see the import of bfd-types with reference to RFC9127 and = will know that that is what they were tested with, developped with, and = so will know that the feature should not be used because it is not in = the referenced RFC9127 for the import; it might work they will think but = should we risk it? (The issue of import and its reference was much = discussed during the development of YANG - it is there for guidance, = like a SHOULD not a MUST). By that argument, the protocol drafts (BGP, OSPF, ISIS, RIP etc.) that = are importing ietf-bfd-types module without a revision, should also be = referencing rfc9127-bis, and not rfc9127. They should also be updated. = That includes both unpublished drafts, drafts that are in RFC editor = queue, and drafts that have been published as RFCs. Which begs the question that I think Jeff was asking - what is the = recommendation for updating modules that import modules that undergo a = revision? Thanks. >=20 > My alternative is to publish 9127-bis without the IANA module because = that is done and dusted, with the new bfd-types with its feature and = updating the other five to reference 9127-bis in the import reference to = show that it is ok to use the feature in the context of those five = modules. >=20 > That will call for 10 or so more lines of change in 9127-bis to update = the five import reference and to ask IANA to update the reference in = IANA Considerations for 9127-bis for those five modules to point to = 9127-bis >=20 > Tom Petch >=20 >=20 >=20 >>=20 >> If this is the acceptable way to handle this, it's likely preferable. >>=20 >>=20 >> -- Jeff >> . >>=20 Mahesh Jethanandani mjethanandani@gmail.com --Apple-Mail=_ADB458D7-3B3D-4918-861E-C33570226FC1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Hi = Tom,


On Dec = 14, 2021, at 8:59 AM, t petch <ietfa@btconnect.com> wrote:

On = 14/12/2021 16:24, Jeffrey Haas wrote:
Martin,

On Tue, = Dec 14, 2021 at 05:20:42PM +0100, Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund wrote:
On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:12:07PM -0500, Jeffrey Haas = wrote:
Would it be possible to avoid the = problem by not doing a full
9127bis, but just publish an = RFC with a new version of ietf-bfd-types?

Tom seemed to think that was not acceptable.

Tom here,

The point of the update is to provide a feature so that the = published modules (e.g. five such in RFC9127) can stop having = deviations, a laudable aim.

But if the five = published modules reference RFC9127 while importing bfd-types, then the = import (no revision) will pick up the latest bfd-types from 9127-bis and = so the feature will be available to them, no deviation needed.

What will be wrong, for the next five years or = so, will be that anyone looking at those five modules in RFC9127, the = latest version for those five, will see the import of bfd-types with = reference to RFC9127 and will know that that is what they were tested = with, developped with, and so will know that the feature should not be = used because it is not in the referenced RFC9127 for the import; it = might work they will think but should we risk it?  (The issue of = import and its reference was much discussed during the development of = YANG - it is there for guidance, like a SHOULD not a MUST).

By that = argument, the protocol drafts (BGP, OSPF, ISIS, RIP etc.) that are = importing ietf-bfd-types module without a revision, should also be = referencing rfc9127-bis, and not rfc9127. They should also be updated. = That includes both unpublished drafts, drafts that are in RFC editor = queue, and drafts that have been published as RFCs.

Which begs the question that I think Jeff was = asking - what is the recommendation for updating modules that import = modules that undergo a revision?

Thanks.


My= alternative is to publish 9127-bis without the IANA module because that = is done and dusted, with the new bfd-types with its feature and updating = the other five to reference 9127-bis in the import reference to show = that it is ok to use the feature in the context of those five = modules.

That will call for 10 or so more = lines of change in 9127-bis to update the five import reference and to = ask IANA to update the reference in IANA Considerations for 9127-bis for = those five modules to point to 9127-bis





Tom Petch




If this = is the acceptable way to handle this, it's likely preferable.


-- Jeff
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Mahesh = Jethanandani






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Issues: 1) Not clear why information-source-entry/service-function/link-terminations/link-termination/from is just an empty NP-container. Description says "Reference to the link termination point."; Not clear how this empty NP-container is a reference to anything. 2) The "service-function-id" and "sf-connection-point-id" leafs are each used in 4 places. Perhaps use groupings instead of cut-and-paste? The type is a plain string. Is this really what is desired? It is not clear if these leafs are administrative labels or real linkage. The description is (e.g.) "Reference to a network service or a network function." This implies some linkage to another YANG object somewhere, but no mention of any such objects. Should this be a leafref to a specific node (or union of leafrefs to multiple objects)? 3) The service-function key (id) is also a plain string. Should the type "yang-identifier" be used instead? Or maybe a different common type. Is is not unusual to limit the length of string identifiers provided by a client. Obvious;y a server can return a "too-big" error but it might be useful to pick a length every server must support (e.g. 1..64). Module: ietf-te-topology-sf-state Revision: 2021-06-28 This is a non-NMDA version of the ietf-te-topology-sf module. It appears to completely correct and no new issues exist. (There should be a YANG extension to tell compilers and other tools that module foo-state is really the non-NMDA variant of foo, and not just a different module with a name that matches a common pattern. Not an issue for this draft.) 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impact of reference clauses in an import statement X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 09:48:04 -0000 On 14/12/2021 18:19, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: > Hi Tom, > > >> On Dec 14, 2021, at 8:59 AM, t petch wrote: >> >> On 14/12/2021 16:24, Jeffrey Haas wrote: >>> Martin, >>> >>> On Tue, Dec 14, 2021 at 05:20:42PM +0100, Martin Björklund wrote: >>>>> On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:12:07PM -0500, Jeffrey Haas wrote: >>>> Would it be possible to avoid the problem by not doing a full >>>> 9127bis, but just publish an RFC with a new version of ietf-bfd-types? >>> >>> Tom seemed to think that was not acceptable. >> >> Tom here, >> >> The point of the update is to provide a feature so that the published modules (e.g. five such in RFC9127) can stop having deviations, a laudable aim. >> >> But if the five published modules reference RFC9127 while importing bfd-types, then the import (no revision) will pick up the latest bfd-types from 9127-bis and so the feature will be available to them, no deviation needed. >> >> What will be wrong, for the next five years or so, will be that anyone looking at those five modules in RFC9127, the latest version for those five, will see the import of bfd-types with reference to RFC9127 and will know that that is what they were tested with, developped with, and so will know that the feature should not be used because it is not in the referenced RFC9127 for the import; it might work they will think but should we risk it? (The issue of import and its reference was much discussed during the development of YANG - it is there for guidance, like a SHOULD not a MUST). > > By that argument, the protocol drafts (BGP, OSPF, ISIS, RIP etc.) that are importing ietf-bfd-types module without a revision, should also be referencing rfc9127-bis, and not rfc9127. They should also be updated. That includes both unpublished drafts, drafts that are in RFC editor queue, and drafts that have been published as RFCs. > > Which begs the question that I think Jeff was asking - what is the recommendation for updating modules that import modules that undergo a revision? The point here is that we have RFC9127 with seven modules, five importing bfd-types from therein, so if we upgrade bfd-types to provided needed funtionality then it behoves us to make clear IMHO that this upgrade is ok for the other five, which can be done by changing the import reference to be 9127-bis and not RFC9127, a one line, documentation change in each of the five modules (which unfortunately then need a new revision, date, IANA Considerations but that is business as usual). What other WG do is up to other WG. Let's make this I-D right. Tom Petch > Thanks. > >> >> My alternative is to publish 9127-bis without the IANA module because that is done and dusted, with the new bfd-types with its feature and updating the other five to reference 9127-bis in the import reference to show that it is ok to use the feature in the context of those five modules. >> >> That will call for 10 or so more lines of change in 9127-bis to update the five import reference and to ask IANA to update the reference in IANA Considerations for 9127-bis for those five modules to point to 9127-bis > > > > >> >> Tom Petch >> >> >> >>> >>> If this is the acceptable way to handle this, it's likely preferable. >>> >>> >>> -- Jeff >>> . >>> > > > Mahesh Jethanandani > mjethanandani@gmail.com > > > > > > > From nobody Wed Dec 15 05:24:42 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBFB43A03ED; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 05:24:40 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2C_vf1xGZbZd; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 05:24:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 375A73A03EA; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 05:24:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 233551E31E; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 08:24:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 08:24:37 -0500 From: Jeffrey Haas To: t petch Cc: Mahesh Jethanandani , Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rklund?= , YANG Doctors , draft-ietf-bfd-rfc9127-bis@ietf.org Message-ID: <20211215132437.GC15763@pfrc.org> References: <20211209221207.GC22655@pfrc.org> <20211214153803.GA15763@pfrc.org> <20211214.172042.1997763003674645526.id@4668.se> <20211214162413.GB15763@pfrc.org> <61B8CD65.7070202@btconnect.com> <61B9B9C6.5030406@btconnect.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <61B9B9C6.5030406@btconnect.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] RFC 9127-bis question - impact of reference clauses in an import statement X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 13:24:41 -0000 Tom, On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 09:47:50AM +0000, t petch wrote: > >Which begs the question that I think Jeff was asking - what is the recommendation for updating modules that import modules that undergo a revision? > > The point here is that we have RFC9127 with seven modules, five > importing bfd-types from therein, so if we upgrade bfd-types to > provided needed funtionality then it behoves us to make clear IMHO > that this upgrade is ok for the other five, which can be done by > changing the import reference to be 9127-bis and not RFC9127, a one > line, documentation change in each of the five modules (which > unfortunately then need a new revision, date, IANA Considerations > but that is business as usual). > > What other WG do is up to other WG. Let's make this I-D right. Your position is understood. Martin basically states this is a procedural question: : What makes this case special is that you plan to (re)publish modules : with references to the document that you are replacing. : : I'm not sure that this is a YANG doctors question... it seems more of : a procedural issue. "Special" implies this is a variance from expectations. The advice being solicited from the YANG doctors is what expectations are. Martin (and others), is the republish solely to update references unusual? -- Jeff From nobody Wed Dec 15 06:40:01 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE6BE3A083C; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 06:39:58 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=4668.se header.b=bEoPr3so; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=G/BLuFsW Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id PF3fAXoU5ZRi; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 06:39:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EAF243A0836; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 06:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from compute5.internal (compute5.nyi.internal [10.202.2.45]) by mailout.nyi.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402735C03B5; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 09:39:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute5.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 15 Dec 2021 09:39:48 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=4668.se; h=date :message-id:to:cc:subject:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=fm3; bh= gdweInbnOixfkER0oSTVepG4KH55pCjmeSiV+We1PBg=; b=bEoPr3sohIJtX/Nl 12xolrZY13ww1pxK0Y8269OQVZVwz345qcCmHFqIuJm1tOItuoiqHRyYnpyhIfzm efe2qbqzxcwOVXtZjzWQeBwDCcC+WLbq8ABH87d96J0U34zyYzDI4BZm/WHb+jjW vFdLwbQBplTX70EF+xoR95m90r+EQBu4TW4/gINgCp3h9IWFQWnOwbBKGHLZZ73u EFQ8zzAgegHFBVt8o6gR5FfuOTFJnS4Zx1NXdHulTmsLdGAsNlCAE+nFSEH8JyNz DqoS13UaBUP+gBLPpkluENZDJtn4IJs8MnmbfTM6QbT0g6qsNb6HzqQUNxFP+H8v 22kwgQ== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=gdweInbnOixfkER0oSTVepG4KH55pCjmeSiV+We1P Bg=; b=G/BLuFsW9cNfl3pQH5aiVtltrGO9k6UFdES3l7unoqXYw9JkAoNsVKf0j cGj0MczoulCqESbMTPtPwvDVRd5vI1kvOWOeZr4bV1SV59UDbfR1hcIR8M96J1SF cd6zWv1vrRtwaC2nJgGgDn8YefMTLukMuoI6VahKnn9ik54btwKkThBIaGDoAe7c a1DkpMKoGHyVs14OATD/cbr0mmGOqBJOJfVHhmKsh5MZInZ+dMusEgh4J07u6dVL KDOYso7mzU7QLK3yNuX7WkjFDEXsaUc6sp6DXknmA1JkB7vGKfOsMVQg+VCMqGG/ D7R27N7OkWM2k96o6van7y+db/fNA== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvuddrledvgdeijecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurhepfffkvffuhfgjfhfogggtgfesthejre dtredtvdenucfhrhhomhepofgrrhhtihhnuceujhpnrhhklhhunhguuceomhgsjhdoihgv thhfseegieeikedrshgvqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpedtgefgtdduudejkeelvedvie dvveehieegfeefteefgfeffeekheffvdefveffgfenucevlhhushhtvghrufhiiigvpedt necurfgrrhgrmhepmhgrihhlfhhrohhmpehmsghjodhivghtfhesgeeiieekrdhsvg X-ME-Proxy: Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Wed, 15 Dec 2021 09:39:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 15:39:44 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <20211215.153944.884666564550827656.id@4668.se> To: jhaas@pfrc.org Cc: ietfa@btconnect.com, mjethanandani@gmail.com, mbj+ietf@4668.se, yang-doctors@ietf.org, draft-ietf-bfd-rfc9127-bis@ietf.org From: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rklund?= In-Reply-To: <20211215132437.GC15763@pfrc.org> References: <61B9B9C6.5030406@btconnect.com> <20211215132437.GC15763@pfrc.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Archived-At: Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] RFC 9127-bis question - impact of reference clauses in an import statement X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2021 14:40:00 -0000 Hi, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > Tom, > > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 09:47:50AM +0000, t petch wrote: > > >Which begs the question that I think Jeff was asking - what is the recommendation for updating modules that import modules that undergo a revision? > > > > The point here is that we have RFC9127 with seven modules, five > > importing bfd-types from therein, so if we upgrade bfd-types to > > provided needed funtionality then it behoves us to make clear IMHO > > that this upgrade is ok for the other five, which can be done by > > changing the import reference to be 9127-bis and not RFC9127, a one > > line, documentation change in each of the five modules (which > > unfortunately then need a new revision, date, IANA Considerations > > but that is business as usual). > > > > What other WG do is up to other WG. Let's make this I-D right. > > Your position is understood. > > Martin basically states this is a procedural question: > : What makes this case special is that you plan to (re)publish modules > : with references to the document that you are replacing. > : > : I'm not sure that this is a YANG doctors question... it seems more of > : a procedural issue. > > "Special" implies this is a variance from expectations. > > The advice being solicited from the YANG doctors is what expectations are. > > Martin (and others), is the republish solely to update references unusual? I have never seen such an update. Also note that the intention with the reference statement is to refer to the spec that was current at the time the reference statement was written. Since there is no import-by-revision, we are explicitly prepared to handle newer versions of the imported module (provided the module follow the upgrade rules). I think this can be compared to references in RFCs. If RFC A has a reference to RFC B, A doesn't have to be updated if B is updated. /martin From nobody Thu Dec 16 11:20:02 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14713A1001 for ; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 11:19:59 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id d0S_J5oGmFUr for ; Thu, 16 Dec 2021 11:19:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from frasgout.his.huawei.com (frasgout.his.huawei.com [185.176.79.56]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client 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multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1600644_1858956592.1639694607393" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19415 YMailNorrin Archived-At: Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] RFC 9127-bis question - impact of reference clauses in an import statement X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2021 22:43:39 -0000 ------=_Part_1600644_1858956592.1639694607393 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 09:40:05 AM EST, Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund= wrote: =20 =20 Hi, Jeffrey Haas wrote: > Tom, >=20 > On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 09:47:50AM +0000, t petch wrote: > > >Which begs the question that I think Jeff was asking - what is the rec= ommendation for updating modules that import modules that undergo a revisio= n? > >=20 > > The point here is that we have RFC9127 with seven modules, five > > importing bfd-types from therein, so if we upgrade bfd-types to > > provided needed funtionality then it behoves us to make clear IMHO > > that this upgrade is ok for the other five, which can be done by > > changing the import reference to be 9127-bis and not RFC9127, a one > > line, documentation change in each of the five modules (which > > unfortunately then need a new revision, date, IANA Considerations > > but that is business as usual). > >=20 > > What other WG do is up to other WG.=C2=A0 Let's make this I-D right. >=20 > Your position is understood. >=20 > Martin basically states this is a procedural question: > : What makes this case special is that you plan to (re)publish modules > : with references to the document that you are replacing. > :=20 > : I'm not sure that this is a YANG doctors question... it seems more of > : a procedural issue. >=20 > "Special" implies this is a variance from expectations. >=20 > The advice being solicited from the YANG doctors is what expectations are= .=C2=A0=20 >=20 > Martin (and others), is the republish solely to update references unusual= ? I have never seen such an update. Also note that the intention with the reference statement is to refer to the spec that was current at the time the reference statement was written.=C2=A0 Since there is no import-by-revision, we are explicitly prepared to handle newer versions of the imported module (provided the module follow the upgrade rules). I think this can be compared to references in RFCs.=C2=A0 If RFC A has a reference to RFC B, A doesn't have to be updated if B is updated. And in the case of 9127-bis, the modified grouping is not used by any = of the modules in that document (only in the "routing" YANG documents).So s= pinning a new revision for these BFD modules just for the sake of updating = the reference seems "wasteful". But I have no idea if there are any rules/g= uidelines for this kind of change. Regards,Reshad (no hat). /martin _______________________________________________ yang-doctors mailing list yang-doctors@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang-doctors =20 ------=_Part_1600644_1858956592.1639694607393 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,

=20
=20
On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 09:40:05 AM EST, Marti= n Bj=C3=B6rklund <mbj+ietf@4668.se> wrote:


Hi,

Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> wrote:
> Tom,
>
> On Wed, Dec 1= 5, 2021 at 09:47:50AM +0000, t petch wrote:
> > >= ;Which begs the question that I think Jeff was asking - what is the recomme= ndation for updating modules that import modules that undergo a revision?> >
> > The point here is t= hat we have RFC9127 with seven modules, five
> > im= porting bfd-types from therein, so if we upgrade bfd-types to
> > provided needed funtionality then it behoves us to make clea= r IMHO
> > that this upgrade is ok for the other fi= ve, which can be done by
> > changing the import re= ference to be 9127-bis and not RFC9127, a one
> > l= ine, documentation change in each of the five modules (which
> > unfortunately then need a new revision, date, IANA Considerat= ions
> > but that is business as usual).
> >
> > What other WG do is up to = other WG.  Let's make this I-D right.
>
> Your position is understood.
>
> Martin basically states this is a procedural question:
> : What makes this case special is that you plan to (re)p= ublish modules
> : with references to the document tha= t you are replacing.
> :
> : I'm= not sure that this is a YANG doctors question... it seems more of
> : a procedural issue.
>
> "Special" implies this is a variance from expectations.
>
> The advice being solicited from the = YANG doctors is what expectations are. 
>
> Martin (and others), is the republish solely to update re= ferences unusual?

I have never seen su= ch an update.

Also note that the inten= tion with the reference statement is to refer
to the spec= that was current at the time the reference statement was
written.  Since there is no import-by-revision, we are explicitly
prepared to handle newer versions of the imported module (pr= ovided the
module follow the upgrade rules).

I think this can be compared to references in RFCs= .  If RFC A has a
reference to RFC B, A doesn't have= to be updated if B is updated.

<RR= > And in the case of 9127-bis, the modified grouping is not used by any = of the modules in that document (only in the "routing" YANG documents).
So spinning a new revision for the= se BFD modules just for the sake of updating the reference seems "wasteful"= . But I have no idea if there are any rules/guidelines for this kind of cha= nge.

Regards,
Reshad (no hat).

/martin


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------=_Part_1600644_1858956592.1639694607393-- From nobody Fri Dec 17 00:46:00 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEA6F3A1893 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 00:45:57 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.899 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.899 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id zp4x8AQmDLLR for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 00:45:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.nic.cz (mail.nic.cz [217.31.204.67]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D6A513A1894 for ; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 00:45:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2a01:5e0:29:ffff::82e]) by mail.nic.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C88BD1409BE; Fri, 17 Dec 2021 09:45:48 +0100 (CET) From: Ladislav Lhotka To: Italo Busi , Martin =?utf-8?Q?Bj=C3=B6rklund?= Cc: "yang-doctors@ietf.org" , Zhenghaomian , "aihuaguo@futurewei.com" In-Reply-To: <9505378881ec4afa90c0ac831c56ea46@huawei.com> References: <72a905a18a334460864bfc95be778150@huawei.com> <9ed9adedd20543eeaf4d6f5f6d1e3d7c@huawei.com> <20211115.175537.1719961127066875828.id@4668.se> <38d78f2a-8497-2a93-2b06-7be85e1b974b@nic.cz> <9505378881ec4afa90c0ac831c56ea46@huawei.com> Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 09:45:48 +0100 Message-ID: <87r1absjpf.fsf@nic.cz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.102.4 at mail X-Virus-Status: Clean Archived-At: Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Question about absolute and relative paths in YANG X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2021 08:45:58 -0000 Italo Busi writes: > Martin, Lada, > > Thanks a lot for your answer > > Another concerns we had is that using relative paths within a grouping wo= uld make quite difficult to re-use this grouping in multiple places within= the YANG tree but we are not sure there is any work-around to avoid this > > What do you think/suggest? It depends, one always has to be careful when refering to entities outside = the grouping. Relative paths may actually help in reusing the grouping in d= ifferent modules, if the local context is similar. Lada > > Italo > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Ladislav Lhotka [mailto:ladislav.lhotka@nic.cz] >> Sent: marted=C3=AC 16 novembre 2021 07:27 >> To: Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund ; Italo Busi >> Cc: yang-doctors@ietf.org; Zhenghaomian ; >> aihuaguo@futurewei.com >> Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Question about absolute and relative paths in >> YANG >>=20 >> On 15. 11. 21 17:55, Martin Bj=C3=B6rklund wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > Italo Busi wrote: >> >> Any feedbacks/comments about this question? >> >> >> >> Thanks, Italo >> >> >> >> From: Italo Busi >> >> Sent: gioved=C3=AC 23 settembre 2021 18:56 >> >> To: yang-doctors@ietf.org >> >> Cc: Zhenghaomian ; 'Aihua Guo' >> >> >> >> Subject: Question about absolute and relative paths in YANG >> >> >> >> Hi YANG doctors, >> >> >> >> I am quite active within the IETF CCAMP and TEAS WGs on YANG models >> >> for optical transport networks >> >> >> >> We are having some discussions about the use of absolute and relative >> >> paths in some of the drafts we are developing for IETF >> >> >> >> I have been told that YANG doctors prefer absolute paths to relative >> >> paths >> > >> > I don't recognize this preference. Also I don't know if you refer to >> > XPath paths in must/when or something else. I assume you mean XPath >> > paths. >>=20 >> It's a mystery to me how such myths can ever arise. :-) >>=20 >> > >> > IMO, a short relative path is often easier to read and understand, and >> > easier to get right. In some cases it truly doesn't matter, and in >> > some other cases you must use one and not the other. >> > >> > In the examples below, I'd use a relative path. >>=20 >> +1 >>=20 >> Lada >>=20 >> > >> > >> > /martin >> > >> > >> > >> >> We think it makes a lot of sense to use absolute paths whenever >> >> possible but there are some cases where we are not sure whether and >> >> how we could use absolute paths >> >> >> >> We would appreciate your opinions and suggestions about how to >> >> address these cases >> >> >> >> One case could be one of the augment statements defined in RFC8795 >> >> (TE Topology model): >> >> >> >> augment "/nw:networks/nw:network/nw:node/tet:te/" >> >> + "tet:te-node-attributes/tet:connectivity-matrices/" >> >> + "tet:label-restrictions/tet:label-restriction" { >> >> when "../../../../../../nw:network-types/tet:te-topology/" >> >> + "example-topology" { >> >> >> >> The intention is to say that this augmentation applies only to a >> >> specific network-types of this network instance. Using an absolute >> >> path the code could become: >> >> >> >> augment "/nw:networks/nw:network/nw:node/tet:te/" >> >> + "tet:te-node-attributes/tet:connectivity-matrices/" >> >> + "tet:label-restrictions/tet:label-restriction" { when >> >> "/nw:networks/nw:network[nw:network- >> id=3Dcurrent()../../../../../../nw:network-id]/" >> >> + "nw:network-types/tet:te-topology/" >> >> + "example-topology" { >> >> >> >> It seems that using the absolute path is moving the issue on >> >> requiring a relative path to get the value of the network-id of this >> >> network >> >> >> >> Is there an alternative solution to avoid using relative path in this >> >> case? >> >> >> >> Another case we have considered is the definition of a grouping with >> >> a leaf that references another node within the same network. In this >> >> case, using a relative path or an absolution path embedding a >> >> relative path required to get the network-id of this network, would >> >> make quite difficult to re-use this grouping in multiple places >> >> within the YANG tree >> >> >> >> One work-around could be to use the refine statement, such as: >> >> >> >> grouping node-reference { >> >> leaf network-ref { >> >> type leafref { >> >> path "/nw:networks/nw:network/nw:network-id" >> >> } >> >> } >> >> >> >> leaf node-ref { >> >> type leafref { >> >> path "deref(../network-ref)/../nw:node/nw:nw:node-id" >> >> } >> >> } >> >> } >> >> >> >> augment "/nw:networks/nw:network/nw:node/tet:te/" >> >> + "tet:te-node-attributes/tet:connectivity-matrices/" >> >> + "tet:label-restrictions/tet:label-restriction" { >> >> uses node-reference { >> >> refine network-ref { >> >> default current()/../../../../../../network-id; >> >> must current() =3D current()/../../../../../../network-id; >> >> } >> >> } >> >> >> >> This work-around seems a bit weird but at least it should the need to >> >> use relative paths within the grouping but keep the requirement to >> >> use the relative paths in the refine statements >> >> >> >> Is there a better solution to avoid using relative path within the >> >> grouping? >> >> >> >> Thanks in advance for your help >> >> >> >> Italo >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > yang-doctors mailing list >> > yang-doctors@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang-doctors >> > >>=20 >> -- >> Ladislav Lhotka >> Head, CZ.NIC Labs >> PGP Key ID: 0xB8F92B08A9F76C67 --=20 Ladislav Lhotka Head, CZ.NIC Labs PGP Key ID: 0xB8F92B08A9F76C67 From nobody Tue Dec 21 02:13:40 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0CD83A0A19; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 02:13:30 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at 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impact of reference clauses in an import statement X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2021 10:13:38 -0000 On 16/12/2021 22:43, Reshad Rahman wrote: > Hi, > On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 09:40:05 AM EST, Martin Björklund wrote: > > Hi, > > Jeffrey Haas wrote: >> Tom, >> >> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 09:47:50AM +0000, t petch wrote: >>>> Which begs the question that I think Jeff was asking - what is the recommendation for updating modules that import modules that undergo a revision? >>> >>> The point here is that we have RFC9127 with seven modules, five >>> importing bfd-types from therein, so if we upgrade bfd-types to >>> provided needed funtionality then it behoves us to make clear IMHO >>> that this upgrade is ok for the other five, which can be done by >>> changing the import reference to be 9127-bis and not RFC9127, a one >>> line, documentation change in each of the five modules (which >>> unfortunately then need a new revision, date, IANA Considerations >>> but that is business as usual). >>> >>> What other WG do is up to other WG. Let's make this I-D right. >> >> Your position is understood. >> >> Martin basically states this is a procedural question: >> : What makes this case special is that you plan to (re)publish modules >> : with references to the document that you are replacing. >> : >> : I'm not sure that this is a YANG doctors question... it seems more of >> : a procedural issue. >> >> "Special" implies this is a variance from expectations. >> >> The advice being solicited from the YANG doctors is what expectations are. >> >> Martin (and others), is the republish solely to update references unusual? > > I have never seen such an update. > > Also note that the intention with the reference statement is to refer > to the spec that was current at the time the reference statement was > written. Since there is no import-by-revision, we are explicitly > prepared to handle newer versions of the imported module (provided the > module follow the upgrade rules). > > I think this can be compared to references in RFCs. If RFC A has a > reference to RFC B, A doesn't have to be updated if B is updated. > > And in the case of 9127-bis, the modified grouping is not used by any of the modules in that document (only in the "routing" YANG documents).So spinning a new revision for these BFD modules just for the sake of updating the reference seems "wasteful". But I have no idea if there are any rules/guidelines for this kind of change. End of WG LC and I await a consensus call from the chairs. I see three options. The worst one is the present I-D, neither flesh nor fowl. Publishing something that is clearly not a bis but just includes a new bfd-types is not so bad but for me leaves a confusing trail behind it. The two versions of bfd-types will only be a few months apart so I am comfortable that the later one can be regarded as current when the others were written, which, as Martin says, is what the reference statement means. It will mean that RFC9127 has references to RFC9127 for bfd-types while other modules from other WG will have reference a version of a few months later which will cause some to scratch their heads in future and wonder what has gone wrong here. Publishing a genuine 9127-bis with the IANA module excised and the references updated so that everyone uses the same reference is to me the clearest statement of what is available and should be used from now on. Tom Petch > Regards,Reshad (no hat). > /martin > > _______________________________________________ > yang-doctors mailing list > yang-doctors@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang-doctors > > From nobody Tue Dec 21 20:13:19 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F703A0B6C for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 20:13:18 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.098 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.098 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=yahoo.com Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id OOmIolFg0CaL for ; 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Wed, 22 Dec 2021 04:13:11 +0000 Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 04:13:13 +0000 (UTC) From: Reshad Rahman Reply-To: Reshad Rahman To: "jhaas@pfrc.org" , =?UTF-8?Q?Martin_Bj=C3=B6rklund?= , t petch Cc: "yang-doctors@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-bfd-rfc9127-bis@ietf.org" , Rtg-bfd WG Message-ID: <249830588.227415.1640146393233@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <61C1A8B9.9000609@btconnect.com> References: <61B9B9C6.5030406@btconnect.com> <20211215132437.GC15763@pfrc.org> <20211215.153944.884666564550827656.id@4668.se> <842430029.1600645.1639694607394@mail.yahoo.com> <61C1A8B9.9000609@btconnect.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_227414_922138239.1640146393231" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.19498 YMailNorrin Archived-At: Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] RFC 9127-bis question - impact of reference clauses in an import statement X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 04:13:18 -0000 ------=_Part_227414_922138239.1640146393231 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 05:13:24 AM EST, t petch wrote: =20 =20 On 16/12/2021 22:43, Reshad Rahman wrote: >=C2=A0 Hi, >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 09:40:05 AM EST, Mar= tin Bj=C3=B6rklund wrote: > >=C2=A0 Hi, > > Jeffrey Haas wrote: >> Tom, >> >> On Wed, Dec 15, 2021 at 09:47:50AM +0000, t petch wrote: >>>> Which begs the question that I think Jeff was asking - what is the rec= ommendation for updating modules that import modules that undergo a revisio= n? >>> >>> The point here is that we have RFC9127 with seven modules, five >>> importing bfd-types from therein, so if we upgrade bfd-types to >>> provided needed funtionality then it behoves us to make clear IMHO >>> that this upgrade is ok for the other five, which can be done by >>> changing the import reference to be 9127-bis and not RFC9127, a one >>> line, documentation change in each of the five modules (which >>> unfortunately then need a new revision, date, IANA Considerations >>> but that is business as usual). >>> >>> What other WG do is up to other WG.=C2=A0 Let's make this I-D right. >> >> Your position is understood. >> >> Martin basically states this is a procedural question: >> : What makes this case special is that you plan to (re)publish modules >> : with references to the document that you are replacing. >> : >> : I'm not sure that this is a YANG doctors question... it seems more of >> : a procedural issue. >> >> "Special" implies this is a variance from expectations. >> >> The advice being solicited from the YANG doctors is what expectations ar= e. >> >> Martin (and others), is the republish solely to update references unusua= l? > > I have never seen such an update. > > Also note that the intention with the reference statement is to refer > to the spec that was current at the time the reference statement was > written.=C2=A0 Since there is no import-by-revision, we are explicitly > prepared to handle newer versions of the imported module (provided the > module follow the upgrade rules). > > I think this can be compared to references in RFCs.=C2=A0 If RFC A has a > reference to RFC B, A doesn't have to be updated if B is updated. > > And in the case of 9127-bis, the modified grouping is not used by an= y of the modules in that document (only in the "routing" YANG documents).So= spinning a new revision for these BFD modules just for the sake of updatin= g the reference seems "wasteful". But I have no idea if there are any rules= /guidelines for this kind of change. End of WG LC and I await a consensus call from the chairs. I see three options.=C2=A0 The worst one is the present I-D, neither flesh= =20 nor fowl. Publishing something that is clearly not a bis but just includes a new=20 bfd-types is not so bad but for me leaves a confusing trail behind it.=20 The two versions of bfd-types will only be a few months apart so I am=20 comfortable that the later one can be regarded as current when the=20 others were written, which, as Martin says, is what the reference=20 statement means.=C2=A0 It will mean that RFC9127 has references to RFC9127= =20 for bfd-types while other modules from other WG will have reference a=20 version of a few months later which will cause some to scratch their=20 heads in future and wonder what has gone wrong here. Ack (we discussed this). But note that irrespective of what we do in B= FD, some modules in other WGs may/will still refer to 9127, so some confusi= on will remain in that regard. Publishing a genuine 9127-bis with the IANA module excised and the=20 references updated so that everyone uses the same reference is to me the=20 clearest statement of what is available and should be used from now on. Would 9127-bis obsolete or update 9127? I think it has to be update.I= can live with this approach although it still irks me to spin a new module= revision just for the sake of updating a reference is overkill and potenti= ally confusing in a different way. Maybe that's only because it's not usual= ly done. =C2=A0=C2=A0 A 4th option would be like option 3 but to only change references where nee= ded. That was my preferred option but since we do have to change the refere= nces in ietf-bfd-mpls, it would seem odd to change 1 module and not the oth= ers.=C2=A0Regards,Reshad (no hat). Tom Petch > Regards,Reshad (no hat). > /martin > > _______________________________________________ > yang-doctors mailing list > yang-doctors@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang-doctors > > =20 ------=_Part_227414_922138239.1640146393231 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Tuesday, December 21, 2021, 05:13:2= 4 AM EST, t petch <ietfa@btconnect.com> wrote:
=


On 16/12/2021 22:43, Reshad Rahman wr= ote:
>  Hi,
>    =   On Wednesday, December 15, 2021, 09:40:05 AM EST, Martin Bj=C3=B6rkl= und <mbj+ietf@4668.se> wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>
> = Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> wrote:
&= gt;> Tom,
>>
>> On Wed, = Dec 15, 2021 at 09:47:50AM +0000, t petch wrote:
>>= >> Which begs the question that I think Jeff was asking - what is the= recommendation for updating modules that import modules that undergo a rev= ision?
>>>
>>> The po= int here is that we have RFC9127 with seven modules, five
>>> importing bfd-types from therein, so if we upgrade bfd-types = to
>>> provided needed funtionality then it beho= ves us to make clear IMHO
>>> that this upgrade = is ok for the other five, which can be done by
>>&g= t; changing the import reference to be 9127-bis and not RFC9127, a one
>>> line, documentation change in each of the five m= odules (which
>>> unfortunately then need a new = revision, date, IANA Considerations
>>> but that= is business as usual).
>>>
&g= t;>> What other WG do is up to other WG.  Let's make this I-D ri= ght.
>>
>> Your position is= understood.
>>
>> Martin b= asically states this is a procedural question:
>> := What makes this case special is that you plan to (re)publish modules
>> : with references to the document that you are replac= ing.
>> :
>> : I'm not sure= that this is a YANG doctors question... it seems more of
>> : a procedural issue.
>>
>> "Special" implies this is a variance from expectations.
>>
>> The advice being solicited fr= om the YANG doctors is what expectations are.
>>>> Martin (and others), is the republish solely to up= date references unusual?
>
> I ha= ve never seen such an update.
>
>= Also note that the intention with the reference statement is to refer
> to the spec that was current at the time the reference s= tatement was
> written.  Since there is no import= -by-revision, we are explicitly
> prepared to handle n= ewer versions of the imported module (provided the
> m= odule follow the upgrade rules).
>
&= gt; I think this can be compared to references in RFCs.  If RFC A has = a
> reference to RFC B, A doesn't have to be updated i= f B is updated.
>
> <RR> An= d in the case of 9127-bis, the modified grouping is not used by any of the = modules in that document (only in the "routing" YANG documents).So spinning= a new revision for these BFD modules just for the sake of updating the ref= erence seems "wasteful". But I have no idea if there are any rules/guidelin= es for this kind of change.

End of WG = LC and I await a consensus call from the chairs.

I see three options.  The worst one is the present I-D, nei= ther flesh
nor fowl.

Publishing something that is clearly not a bi= s but just includes a new
bfd-types is not so bad but fo= r me leaves a confusing trail behind it.
The two version= s of bfd-types will only be a few months apart so I am
c= omfortable that the later one can be regarded as current when the
others were written, which, as Martin says, is what the reference=
statement means.  It will mean that RFC9127 has re= ferences to RFC9127
for bfd-types while other modules fr= om other WG will have reference a
version of a few month= s later which will cause some to scratch their
heads in = future and wonder what has gone wrong here.
<RR> Ac= k (we discussed this). But note that irrespective of what we do in BFD, som= e modules in other WGs may/will still refer to 9127, so some confusion will= remain in that regard.

Publishing a genuine 9127-bis with the IANA module excised and = the
references updated so that everyone uses the same re= ference is to me the
clearest statement of what is avail= able and should be used from now on.
<RR2> Would 91= 27-bis obsolete or update 9127? I think it has to be update.
I can live with this approach although it st= ill irks me to spin a new module revision just for the sake of updating a r= eference is overkill and potentially confusing in a different way. Maybe th= at's only because it's not usually done.   

A 4= th option would be like option 3 but to only change references where needed= . That was my preferred option but since we do have to change the reference= s in ietf-bfd-mpls, it would seem odd to change 1 module and not the= others.
 
Regards,
Reshad (no hat).
Tom Petch



> Regards,Reshad (no hat).
> /martin
>
> __________________________________________= _____
> yang-doctors mailing list
&g= t; yang-doctors@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/yang-= doctors
>
>
------=_Part_227414_922138239.1640146393231-- From nobody Wed Dec 22 10:40:38 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B9E53A07D5; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 10:40:36 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kyczqHQhnR0s; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 10:40:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B40503A07EA; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 10:40:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8C9381E328; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 13:40:30 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 13:40:30 -0500 From: Jeffrey Haas To: t petch Cc: Reshad Rahman , Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rklund?= , "yang-doctors@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-bfd-rfc9127-bis@ietf.org" , bfd@ietf.org Message-ID: <20211222184029.GA12277@pfrc.org> References: <61B9B9C6.5030406@btconnect.com> <20211215132437.GC15763@pfrc.org> <20211215.153944.884666564550827656.id@4668.se> <842430029.1600645.1639694607394@mail.yahoo.com> <61C1A8B9.9000609@btconnect.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <61C1A8B9.9000609@btconnect.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] RFC 9127-bis question - impact of reference clauses in an import statement X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 18:40:37 -0000 On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 10:13:13AM +0000, t petch wrote: > End of WG LC and I await a consensus call from the chairs. And Happy Holidays to you as well! > I see three options. The worst one is the present I-D, neither > flesh nor fowl. > > Publishing something that is clearly not a bis but just includes a > new bfd-types is not so bad but for me leaves a confusing trail > behind it. The two versions of bfd-types will only be a few months > apart so I am comfortable that the later one can be regarded as > current when the others were written, which, as Martin says, is what > the reference statement means. It will mean that RFC9127 has > references to RFC9127 for bfd-types while other modules from other > WG will have reference a version of a few months later which will > cause some to scratch their heads in future and wonder what has gone > wrong here. > > Publishing a genuine 9127-bis with the IANA module excised and the > references updated so that everyone uses the same reference is to me > the clearest statement of what is available and should be used from > now on. The delays in iteration as we've sought out the wisdom of the YANG doctors has meant we've not seen progress in the Working Group mail list. That said, you - as the sole party really expressing much opinion - have continued to see that involvement with them. For the Working Group as a whole, this call ends in "No Consensus". The authors are currently proceeding with a full update to RFC 9127 as a -bis largely following the discussed pattern of "keep the bulk of the contents, remove the IANA section, update the references". Also for the Working Group as a whole, we did not get much response from the YANG doctors and had a single response from Martin Bjrklund. He didn't see a strong reason to re-issue the full RFC. That said, he also considered our desire to do so to be a "procedural" one. Given the lack of strong opinions at this time, the authors have been given latitude to do their next version as they please. That was discussed above. Once we have a full update, we'll re-open the WGLC and target mid January to attempt to get broader IETF involvement. -- Jeff From nobody Wed Dec 22 10:42:09 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68FDA3A07E9; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 10:42:07 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.901 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.901 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id egY00Qz3zxL2; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 10:42:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from slice.pfrc.org (slice.pfrc.org [67.207.130.108]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 350E23A07DF; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 10:42:02 -0800 (PST) Received: by slice.pfrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 46E441E328; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 13:42:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 13:42:01 -0500 From: Jeffrey Haas To: t petch Cc: Reshad Rahman , Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rklund?= , "yang-doctors@ietf.org" , "draft-ietf-bfd-rfc9127-bis@ietf.org" , rtg-bfd@ietf.org Message-ID: <20211222184201.GA12759@pfrc.org> References: <61B9B9C6.5030406@btconnect.com> <20211215132437.GC15763@pfrc.org> <20211215.153944.884666564550827656.id@4668.se> <842430029.1600645.1639694607394@mail.yahoo.com> <61C1A8B9.9000609@btconnect.com> <20211222184029.GA12277@pfrc.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20211222184029.GA12277@pfrc.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Archived-At: Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] RFC 9127-bis question - impact of reference clauses in an import statement X-BeenThere: yang-doctors@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Email list of the yang-doctors directorate List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2021 18:42:08 -0000 [Note - re-send to fix bfd list address issue.] On Tue, Dec 21, 2021 at 10:13:13AM +0000, t petch wrote: > End of WG LC and I await a consensus call from the chairs. And Happy Holidays to you as well! > I see three options. The worst one is the present I-D, neither > flesh nor fowl. > > Publishing something that is clearly not a bis but just includes a > new bfd-types is not so bad but for me leaves a confusing trail > behind it. The two versions of bfd-types will only be a few months > apart so I am comfortable that the later one can be regarded as > current when the others were written, which, as Martin says, is what > the reference statement means. It will mean that RFC9127 has > references to RFC9127 for bfd-types while other modules from other > WG will have reference a version of a few months later which will > cause some to scratch their heads in future and wonder what has gone > wrong here. > > Publishing a genuine 9127-bis with the IANA module excised and the > references updated so that everyone uses the same reference is to me > the clearest statement of what is available and should be used from > now on. The delays in iteration as we've sought out the wisdom of the YANG doctors has meant we've not seen progress in the Working Group mail list. That said, you - as the sole party really expressing much opinion - have continued to see that involvement with them. For the Working Group as a whole, this call ends in "No Consensus". The authors are currently proceeding with a full update to RFC 9127 as a -bis largely following the discussed pattern of "keep the bulk of the contents, remove the IANA section, update the references". Also for the Working Group as a whole, we did not get much response from the YANG doctors and had a single response from Martin Bjrklund. He didn't see a strong reason to re-issue the full RFC. That said, he also considered our desire to do so to be a "procedural" one. Given the lack of strong opinions at this time, the authors have been given latitude to do their next version as they please. That was discussed above. Once we have a full update, we'll re-open the WGLC and target mid January to attempt to get broader IETF involvement. -- Jeff From nobody Wed Dec 22 13:08:27 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: yang-doctors@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE9213A0C38; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 13:08:25 -0800 (PST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -9.596 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.596 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com header.b=H5kztQnO; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.onmicrosoft.com header.b=XTpXcVhV Received: 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