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[12:59:34] <Carles Gomez> i was not talking :)
[12:59:40] <Alessandro Amirante> nobody is sending audio at the moment
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[12:59:47] <Laurent Toutain> :)
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[13:02:00] <Tom Hill> Audio is very choppy Carles - in other WGs it has helped to stop video in these cases.
[13:02:10] <JADHAV Rahul> I am getting occasional glitches from Carles as well..
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[13:02:30] <Alexandre Petrescu> everybody should mute, it's not chairs fault
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[13:02:49] <Tom Hill> Everyone is automatically muted?
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[13:02:56] <Meetecho> Tom Hill: yes
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[13:03:48] <Dominique Barthel> Carles, your audio is "blocked" (small cuts). Could you try turning video off, to save on uplink bandwith?
[13:03:49] <Alexandre Petrescu> (after investigating, I think mostif not all are muted; I had some noise from elsewhere)
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[13:04:45] <Alexandre Petrescu> it was not video's  fault, it still is video choppy
[13:04:52] <Alexandre Petrescu> maybe presenter is on VPN?
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[13:05:00] <Alexandre Petrescu> (audio is choppy)
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[13:05:48] <alex-meetecho> Alexandre Petrescu: it might be an uplink bandwidth issue on his side, that's why disabling video might help. It didn't tohugh :(
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[13:06:54] <Alexandre Petrescu> what else to do in such situations?
[13:07:08] <Shwetha Bhandari> @Eric on the deadline draft - we are not sure as the edits were made to -05 after it was in AUTH48, the changes could be in but not visible in datatracker
[13:07:12] <Levis P> It doesn't sound like a bandwidth issue; it sounds like clipping from thresholds on audio detection in the microphone? The pops all happen at the beginning and end of words?
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[13:09:07] <Alexandre Petrescu> if it is the audio detection software in the mic then not much could be done.
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[13:10:23] <Alexandre Petrescu> Could also be that the codec used to encode the audio is too high quality (44khz CD audio or so) or so.
[13:10:37] <Erik Kline> @Shwetha: thanks.  I need to dig up the email thread to see where we landed.
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[13:12:23] <Dominique Barthel> I'm alone on Codimd, just wondering if I'm on the right URL. Did anybody else attempt to join the Codimd?
[13:12:25] <Tom Hill> I don't think anyone building meeting software is particularly crazy enough to use RAW audio as a codec for streaming :)
[13:12:57] <Meetecho> The audio codec here is Opus
[13:12:59] <JADHAV Rahul> Dominique i dont see any updates on codimd..
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[13:13:12] <JADHAV Rahul> most likely you arent on the right pad ..
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[13:13:36] <Dominique Barthel> I'm on https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-ietf-108-6lo
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[13:14:20] <Tom Hill> A general comment (sorry I didn't get to join the audio queue in time) to the chairs - is the WG broadly aware of the FIPE area, and/or their interest in "a not IP" protocol for low-power devices?
[13:16:31] <Tom Hill> Notably there is a FIPE side-meeting scheduled for Friday, 15:00-16:30 UTC
[13:16:36] <JADHAV Rahul> @dominique, that links is correct. But I cant see your updates.
[13:17:24] <Carles Gomez> I personally just learned about FIPE from an email I just saw on the 108 attendees list. We will definitely take a look (although the WG focuses on an IP protocol for low-power devices :))
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[13:21:18] <Dominique Barthel> @rahul, thanks. I'll keep typing (and saving locally) anyway.
[13:22:13] <Carles Gomez> @Dominique: sorry for the inconvenience, and thanks for your efforts!
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[13:23:38] <Tom Hill> Carles - good to know. The concern is that FIPE/6LO have overlaps.
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[13:26:26] <Carles Gomez> @Tom - Thanks for the note. I will try to attend the meeting you announced.
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[13:28:18] <Erik Kline> @Shwetha: email from Suresh suggests that the fixed text is in the editor's copy.
[13:30:55] <Carles Gomez> I have to refrain from talking here :)
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[13:32:00] <Shwetha Bhandari> @Erik Thanks! we are all set for deadline draft then
[13:33:17] <Alexandre Petrescu> (the audio of the last speaker is hardly understandable.  I found a parameter in Properties of themicrophone, it has to do with qualitfy of sent audio 44khz, 16bit, etc)
[13:33:22] <Alexandre Petrescu> (it could be changed)
[13:33:42] <Alexandre Petrescu> (it would be interesting to know whether the earlier speaker (Chair) uses Bluetooth microphone, or not).
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[13:38:09] <Alexandre Petrescu> Screen invisible here.
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[13:39:07] <Alexandre Petrescu> screen visible hgere
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[13:40:03] <Erik Kline> @Shwetha: I was mistaken. Suresh says the document authors need to verify the AUTH48 text themselves to make sure the corrected text is included.
[13:40:27] <Erik Kline> I'll try to follow up with the rfc editor
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[13:45:23] <Praneet Kaur> @hudson the findings are very useful. Good work indeed!
[13:46:20] <Dominique Barthel> indeed! +1
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[13:48:48] <JADHAV Rahul> Very interesting to see such interop issues reported.
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[13:49:26] <Levis P> It will also save energy -- you won't transmit/receive messages that are just dropped.
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[13:51:29] <JADHAV Rahul> great to know.. certainly will review and simulate the evaluations.
[13:51:43] <Alexandre Petrescu> now the audio encoder changed to lower quality... still choppy.
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[13:52:27] <Bing Liu> @hudson Interest finding, good work!
[13:52:28] <Alexandre Petrescu> might be he's on the Bluetooth mic of the bluetooth headset; many other problems possible on bluetooth.
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[13:52:46] <Alexandre Petrescu> might be that Bluetooth has to do with 802.15.4...
[13:53:30] <Tom Hill> It does appear to be a sending issue from Carles' end, not a receiving issue
[13:53:41] <Tom Hill> So changing settings in your client probably won't help
[13:54:01] <Alexandre Petrescu> (I did not change on my client, but his software changed it dynamically)
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[13:54:21] <Carles Gomez> thanks! intended for star and mesh
[13:54:24] <Alexandre Petrescu> (I would really like to  know whether he's on Bluetooth; I asked in private)
[13:54:31] <JADHAV Rahul> nice
[13:54:43] <Carles Gomez> sorry for audio problems
[13:54:53] <Carles Gomez> that is a good idea
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[13:55:05] <Carles Gomez> Laurent's idea is good
[13:55:24] <Alexandre Petrescu> much better!
[13:55:33] <Alexandre Petrescu> still choppy
[13:55:52] <Alexandre Petrescu> thank you
[13:55:54] <Daniel Babatunde> Thank you
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[13:56:11] <Laurent Toutain> bye
[13:56:13] <Ana Minaburo> +1 for the Laurent's idea
[13:56:13] <Carles Gomez> Let's continue discussion on the list. Apologies for audio (no clue on the reasons). See you soon!
[13:56:15] <Ana Minaburo> bye
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[13:56:25] <Carles Gomez> Thanks to everyone for attending
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