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m&m has set the subject to: ACME @ IETF 99 | Agenda https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/99/agenda/agenda-99-acme-01.txt
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[15:21:59] <jyasskin> meetecho: There's a problem with the meeting, something about clicking not working.
[15:22:21] <meetecho> jyasskin: not sure I understand the issue? can you elaborate?
[15:22:29] <jyasskin> (I didn't quite hear what Yoav said, sorry)
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[15:26:48] <m&m> good afternoon!  I'll be your jabber scribe today.  If you have anything you wish taken to the mic, please preface it with "mic:"
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[15:27:40] m&m has set the subject to: ACME @ 101 | Agenda https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/agenda-101-acme/
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[15:35:42] <Thom Peterson> MIC: Shouldn't the challenge/response should be "connect to the IP and perform a challenge/response handshake" of sorts? Or is a lack of connectivity between both ends an immovable requirement?
[15:37:04] <m&m> in line (at the end)
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[15:40:55] <Jonathan Lennox> Thom: I believe the http and tls-alpn methods both do variants of that, and work, and no one's arguing against them.
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[15:43:35] <Thom Peterson> m&m: Thank you.
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[15:45:15] <Henry Hotz> Does IPv6 fix the reverse lookup problem (where it's used)?
[15:45:24] <ekr> I doubt it
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[15:50:35] <Martin Thomson> this "/1" is silly
[15:50:51] <Martin Thomson> it demonstrates a lack of confidence
[15:51:07] <Jacob Hoffman-Andrews> so does the -02 in tls-sni-02 :-)
[15:51:27] <Martin Thomson> that was done in anticipation of the WG making changes
[15:51:44] <Jacob Hoffman-Andrews> I think the /1 is not a big deal.
[15:52:03] <Martin Thomson> it's not a big deal, but it is silly
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[15:58:14] <ekr> Actually, I don’t think the hash of the SNI works well
[15:58:59] <ekr> I guess it *probably* does.
[15:59:15] <ekr> Depending on the interface to the SLPN part of the stack
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[16:04:32] <Deb Cooley> meetecho:  Too bad you can't turn off the light source behind the speaker....
[16:05:10] <meetecho> :)
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[16:21:07] <Henry Hotz> I like ASN1!!
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[16:22:03] <Deb Cooley> shhhhhhh
[16:22:27] <Wilhelm Wimmreuter> TnauthList as an ASN.1 will also work with standard CSR as we tested. it.
[16:22:28] <Henry Hotz> Anyone dealing with Certs needs to deal with ASN1 anyway.
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[16:22:48] <Wilhelm Wimmreuter> Will this Json encoding destroy CSR compliance?
[16:24:03] <m&m> Wilhelm Wimmreuter: did you want that relayed on the mic?
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[16:25:15] <Wilhelm Wimmreuter> Please. Since this worked in our ATIS tests with standard CSR encoding in ASN.1 already and providing another method will get confusing.
[16:25:31] <m&m> Wilhelm Wimmreuter: it might become irrelevant
[16:25:38] <m&m> the JER thing
[16:25:56] <Wilhelm Wimmreuter> I hpee ;-)
[16:26:01] <Thom Peterson> It's new ASN.1.
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[16:28:04] <liman> On translation of "stuff" between different encodings, an old favourite quotation of mine comes to mind. At an IETF (in Toronto 1994?) during the wars on email standards (SMTP, X.400, DECNET mail, …), the revered email guru Einar Stefferud said the everlasting truth at the mike: "I have never seen a message that was improved by passing it through a gateway." :-)
[16:28:33] <Deb Cooley> truth
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[16:43:00] <Deb Cooley> who is at teh mic?
[16:43:09] <Deb Cooley> nevermind.
[16:43:22] <m&m> Tim Hallobeek
[16:43:38] <m&m> *Hollebeek
[16:43:47] <Deb Cooley> TY
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