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[14:01:54] <Rich Salz> Anyone want to take minutes? https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-ietf-108-acme#
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[14:05:08] <Rich Salz> what do i do to turn my audio on?
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[14:05:19] <Yoav Nir_190> Click the send audio
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[14:10:00] <Yoav Nir> To repeat what Rich said, we need a minute taker
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[14:10:13] <Yoav Nir> Can't start the meeting without one
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[14:12:08] <jon-ietf> was that to me?
[14:12:11] <Yaron Sheffer> yes
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[14:12:16] <jon-ietf> heh
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[14:12:16] <jon-ietf> okay
[14:12:21] <Roman Danyliw> Thank you Yaron.
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[14:14:16] <Meetecho> Rick Salz: when you only lose audio, you can use the "reconnect audio" button, no nee to rejoin/refresh
[14:14:29] <Rich Salz> yeah, that didn't work this time.
[14:14:31] <Meetecho> Circling arrows in the low-right corner
[14:14:47] <Meetecho> Ah got it, sorry for the noise!
[14:14:59] <Rich Salz> no problem, better to have a hint than none!
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[14:16:04] <Rich Salz> sorry for the delay, i'm back
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[14:18:11] <Yoav Nir> DTN = Delay Tolerant Networking
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[14:22:06] <Deb Cooley> @rich:  nice - glass, ice!  is that water?  LOL
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[14:22:30] <Rich Salz> secdispatch and gendispatch earlier.  vodka would be appropriate
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[14:22:51] <Melinda Shore> Those actually aren't reasons to publish as experimental
[14:22:59] <Deb Cooley> @rich for sure!
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[14:24:11] <Rich Salz> but as it is still early, it's just ice water
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[14:25:02] <Yoav Nir> @Melinda: say it at the mic?
[14:25:15] <Jim Schaad> @Rich: If I was going to work I would be drinking by now
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[14:25:28] <Melinda Shore> Nah, it'll come up if this goes forward
[14:25:48] <Alexey Melnikov_567> Looks reasonable, but I need to read the draft
[14:25:55] <Deb Cooley> @jim:  we would all be drinking at your work.
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[14:26:12] <Robin Wilton> @JimSchaad That *is* your  work, Mr Cellars ;^)
[14:26:19] <Yoav Nir> Just honorable intentions, I'm sure
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[14:31:20] <Deb Cooley> So the ACME server would be on the open network, but not publically trusted.
[14:32:08] <Rich Salz> I think it would be on the DTN network, not necessarily public.
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[14:32:23] <Rich Salz> but yes.
[14:33:09] <Rich Salz> never mind
[14:33:15] <Rick Taylor> The DTN network is an overlay, and for this use-case it is public facing
[14:33:22] <Rich Salz> @Rick, thanks.
[14:33:43] <Ira McDonald> Rich - you had no audio
[14:34:07] <Rich Salz> yeah.  got browser/network glitches here, sorry.
[14:35:07] <Melinda Shore> +1
[14:35:08] <Russ Housley> +1
[14:35:13] <Rich Salz> +1
[14:35:16] <Alexey Melnikov_567> +1
[14:35:20] <Rich Salz> (well i did read it :)
[14:35:21] <Roman Danyliw> @deb: My understarding is yes, that the ACME server is on internet but access over the DTN overlay only
[14:35:24] <Yoav Nir> +1
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[14:41:11] <Russ Housley> Willing to review
[14:41:25] <Carl Mehner> +1
[14:41:51] <Alexey Melnikov_567> +1
[14:42:15] <Rich Salz> Agreed.
[14:43:26] <Mark Baushke> notes might want to include the URL https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-acme-integrations/
[14:44:24] <Rich Salz> @Mark, pasted in minutes, thanks.
[14:44:46] <Yoav Nir> Not to be confused with TEEP
[14:44:50] <Mark Baushke> @Rich: you are welcome :-)
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[14:49:54] <Mark Baushke> The CSR-Attributes are from the draft-lear-eap-teap-brski draft?
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[14:50:57] <Mark Baushke> +1 (I read it a few months ago)
[14:51:17] <Robin Wilton> I haven't read it yet, but am willing to read and comment.
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[14:54:24] <Rich Salz> I was confused, this has been adopted. Please read and comment, and reach out to the affected WG's.
[14:54:33] <Rich Salz> (Sorry Owen I keep doing things like that to you)
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[14:59:06] <Deb Cooley> nothing....
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[14:59:45] <Rich Salz> My browser is glitchy with the audio stream :(
[14:59:58] <Rich Salz> I was just asking the WG for input, if anyone wants to say anything
[15:01:32] <Rich Salz> @Roland, do you know Alec Muffet?  We can reach out to him.
[15:02:14] <Rich Salz> I'll send email offline and introduce
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[15:03:04] <Rich Salz> stay safe and healthy everyone
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[15:03:10] <Rich Salz> thanks Aaron!
[15:03:12] <Quynh Dang> See all later. Thank you.
[15:03:14] <Rich Salz> (spell correct)
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