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[16:55:12] <Tobia Castaldi> hi Sebastian
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[16:55:32] <Sebastian Kiesel> hi there
[16:55:46] <Sebastian Kiesel> greetings from stuttgart, germany
[16:55:50] <Sebastian Kiesel> ready for testing
[16:55:51] <Enrico> can you dial in?
[16:55:54] <Enrico> hello! :)
[16:56:00] <Tobia Castaldi> to start the test, just head to the Audio/Video tab
[16:56:07] <Tobia Castaldi> and then to the headset icon
[16:56:13] <Sebastian Kiesel> i tried to start the integrated voip applet
[16:56:41] <Tobia Castaldi> can you hear Tobia talking?
[16:56:49] <Tobia Castaldi> (btw, this is Lorenzo typing :) )
[16:56:50] <Sebastian Kiesel> no
[16:57:44] <Enrico> They are taking care of you, thanks for being patient :)
[16:57:54] <Sebastian Kiesel> it says the Audio applet started
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[16:58:07] <Tobia Castaldi> the first time you start the applet, you may be asked to accept some permissions
[16:58:21] <Sebastian Kiesel> it didn't ask for permissions
[16:58:26] <Sebastian Kiesel> it says the applet started
[16:58:31] <Tobia Castaldi> ok this means it started
[16:58:46] <Sebastian Kiesel> i clicked on "i want to talk"
[16:58:48] <Sebastian Kiesel> can you hear me?
[16:59:01] <Tobia Castaldi> do you have any firewall/network in place there that could filter voip traffic?
[16:59:15] <Sebastian Kiesel> this might be true
[16:59:18] <Tobia Castaldi> if you can't hear it's likely you can't talk either
[16:59:33] <Sebastian Kiesel> so this is not all running via http?
[16:59:47] <Tobia Castaldi> not the VoIP: the VoIP applet uses RTP (UDP)
[16:59:52] <Sebastian Kiesel> i see
[16:59:55] <Sebastian Kiesel> wait a moment
[16:59:56] <Tobia Castaldi> everything else is http
[17:00:08] <Sebastian Kiesel> i can switch to another network that is not firewalled
[17:00:15] <Tobia Castaldi> ok :)
[17:00:30] <Tobia Castaldi> just in case, take note of this phone number as well
[17:00:31] <Tobia Castaldi> +1-323-927-1014
[17:00:41] <Tobia Castaldi> calling that number will let you dial in the room as well
[17:00:53] <Tobia Castaldi> it can be useful as a fallback in case voip doesn't work for you
[17:02:38] <Tobia Castaldi> you still there?
[17:02:45] <Sebastian Kiesel> yep
[17:02:50] <Sebastian Kiesel> talking to firewall admin
[17:02:53] <Sebastian Kiesel> will take some seconds
[17:02:59] <Tobia Castaldi> ok
[17:04:07] <Sebastian Kiesel> do you have an european dial in number?
[17:04:11] <Sebastian Kiesel> germany preferred
[17:04:20] <Tobia Castaldi> yes an italian number
[17:04:25] <Tobia Castaldi> it's in the audio/video tab
[17:04:28] <Sebastian Kiesel> better than us
[17:04:35] <Sebastian Kiesel> i see
[17:04:37] <Tobia Castaldi> +39-06-9171-2251
[17:05:58] <Sebastian Kiesel> lets wait some more seconds .. the firewall admin is right now changing rule sets
[17:06:10] <Tobia Castaldi> ok let us know when you're ready
[17:09:04] <Tobia Castaldi> why don't you call the phone number in gthe meanwhile?
[17:09:31] <Tobia Castaldi> so that we can try and set that up and make sure it works for you
[17:13:07] <Sebastian Kiesel> do i need to restart the applet?
[17:13:27] <Tobia Castaldi> after the firewall reset rules you mean?
[17:13:33] <Sebastian Kiesel> yes
[17:13:43] <Tobia Castaldi> I just talked
[17:13:51] <Tobia Castaldi> if you could hear me there's no need to restart it
[17:13:57] <Sebastian Kiesel> still can't hear
[17:14:01] <Tobia Castaldi> ok
[17:14:04] <Tobia Castaldi> then close the applet
[17:14:07] <Tobia Castaldi> wait a few seconds
[17:14:11] <Tobia Castaldi> and try calling again
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[17:22:57] <Tobia Castaldi> welcome back :)
[17:24:04] <Tobia Castaldi> do you have any headset?
[17:24:38] <Sebastian Kiesel> i do have a headset
[17:24:52] <Sebastian Kiesel> but i can hear you on the speaker of my laptop
[17:24:57] <Tobia Castaldi> ok, can you put them on? otherwise you're going t generate echo in the room here
[17:24:59] <Sebastian Kiesel> need to figure out how to sitch
[17:25:04] <Sebastian Kiesel> switch
[17:25:11] <Sebastian Kiesel> from integrated speaker to headphone
[17:25:49] <Tobia Castaldi> usually when you plug an headset in the pc, it switches automatically the output audio there
[17:25:59] <Tobia Castaldi> isn'tthat the case for you?
[17:26:24] <alex> try to right click on the volume icon on the task bar
[17:28:40] <Tobia Castaldi> Sebastian are you still there?
[17:28:48] <Sebastian Kiesel> still there
[17:28:57] <Sebastian Kiesel> deactivated all speakers and microphones
[17:29:39] <Tobia Castaldi> to listen and speak you need at least one enabled though :)
[17:29:48] <Sebastian Kiesel> yes
[17:29:51] <Tobia Castaldi> one speaker (headset) and one mic
[17:29:56] <Sebastian Kiesel> i mean all but the usb hea
[17:30:00] <Sebastian Kiesel> dset
[17:30:01] <Tobia Castaldi> ah ok
[17:30:11] <Tobia Castaldi> can you hear us this way?
[17:30:18] <Sebastian Kiesel> i can hear you
[17:30:45] <alex> try to enable the mic again
[17:37:58] <Tobia Castaldi> to enable video
[17:38:03] <Tobia Castaldi> tick the video checkbox
[17:38:06] <Tobia Castaldi> before calling
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[19:38:50] <SK> hello?
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[19:42:52] <hardie@jabber.psg.com> Howdy
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[19:43:12] <hardie@jabber.psg.com> If you would like something relayed to the room, please put MIC: in front of it, and I will bring it to the mic
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[19:44:39] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: ALTO WG
[19:44:49] <Simon Romano> Current presenter: Chairs
[19:44:50] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: ALTO WG
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[19:44:52] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: 2nd ALTO Interoperability
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[19:47:27] <Simon Romano> Presentation stopped
[19:47:41] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: ALTO Protocol
[19:47:58] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: Outline
[19:48:04] <Simon Romano> Current presenter: Reinaldo Penno
[19:48:05] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: Outline
[19:48:08] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: Changes: -12 → -13 (and new version to
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[19:49:57] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: Outstanding Issues: To-Be-Fixed
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[19:50:46] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: Outstanding Issues: WG Discussions
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[19:55:23] <Simon Romano> Slide 6: Outstanding Issues: WG Discussions
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[19:59:02] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: Changes: -12 → -13 (and new version to
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[20:08:19] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: ALTO Cost Schedule
[20:08:21] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: Diff1 – use case section 2.2
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[20:09:19] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: Multi-Cost ALTO
[20:09:21] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: V7-diffs – MC constraints
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[20:11:02] <Simon Romano> Slide 6: V7-diffs – MC constraints
[20:11:05] <Simon Romano> Slide 7: V7-diffs – MC constraints - example
[20:11:13] <Simon Romano> Slide 6: V7-diffs – MC constraints
[20:11:16] <Simon Romano> Slide 7: V7-diffs – MC constraints - example
[20:11:38] <Simon Romano> Slide 8: Thank you
[20:13:16] <Simon Romano> Slide 7: V7-diffs – MC constraints - example
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[20:16:03] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: ALTO Cost Schedule
[20:16:09] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: ALTO Cost Schedule
[20:16:31] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: Outline
[20:16:34] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: Recap (1)
[20:16:40] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: Res. Consumer Initiated Discovery
[20:16:42] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: 3rd Party Server Discovery
[20:17:11] <Simon Romano> Slide 6: Recap (2)
[20:18:05] <Simon Romano> Slide 7: Documents History
[20:18:59] <Simon Romano> Slide 8: one architecture – two drafts
[20:19:42] <Simon Romano> Slide 9: one architecture – two drafts
[20:20:16] <Simon Romano> Slide 10: one architecture – two drafts
[20:21:20] <Simon Romano> Slide 11: ALTO Server Discovery
[20:21:32] <Simon Romano> Slide 12: draft-ietf-alto-server-discovery-05
[20:23:37] <Simon Romano> Slide 10: one architecture – two drafts
[20:27:10] <Simon Romano> Slide 11: ALTO Server Discovery
[20:27:31] <Michael Scharf> I guess it is this draft: draft-jones-simple-web-discovery-04 ?
[20:27:44] <Michael Scharf> According to the status, it is individual, right?
[20:27:50] <Simon Romano> Slide 10: one architecture – two drafts
[20:28:09] <Simon Romano> Slide 12: draft-ietf-alto-server-discovery-05
[20:28:31] <Simon Romano> Slide 13: Third-Party ALTO Server Discovery
[20:28:34] <Simon Romano> Slide 14: draft-kist-alto-3pdisc-01
[20:29:11] <Simon Romano> Slide 15: draftkist-alto3pdisc-01
[20:29:26] <Simon Romano> Slide 16: draft-kist-alto-3pdisc-01
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[20:32:13] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: ALTO and DECADE Integration
[20:32:23] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: Basic Idea
[20:32:38] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: Integration Architecture
[20:34:38] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: Use Cases
[20:34:49] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: Changes to P2P systems
[20:35:24] <Simon Romano> Slide 6: ALTO Protocol Considerations
[20:35:39] <Simon Romano> Slide 7: Thank you!
[20:36:31] <skiesel> MIC: would this use case need 3rd party discovery?
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