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[11:01:28] <Dan York> I'll Jabber-scribe
[11:02:31] <Dan York> Agenda: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/agenda/agenda-83-cdni.html
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[11:03:47] <Dan York> Slides - http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-cdni-14.pdf
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[11:04:36] <Dan York> Agenda: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/agenda/agenda-83-cdni.html
[11:05:06] <Dan York> Slide 4: Working%Group%Milestones
[11:05:18] <Dan York> Anyone remote?
[11:05:27] <frodek> nope
[11:05:40] <Dan York> Slide 5
[11:05:50] <swainner> yes. on webex
[11:06:24] <Dan York> k, if you want something relayed to the mic please preface with "mic:" and I'm glad to do so.
[11:06:37] <swainner> will do. thank you.
[11:08:38] <Dan York> Slide 6 - Agenda
[11:08:50] ogud has set the subject to: "CDNI meeting in progress @IETF-83"
[11:09:33] <Dan York> Slide 7 - Agenda
[11:09:40] <Dan York> chairs now pausing for agenda bash
[11:09:50] <Dan York> Slide 8 - Next steps
[11:10:08] <Dan York> Slides - http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-cdni-10.pdf
[11:10:15] <Dan York> Rich Woundy speaking
[11:10:23] <Dan York> Slide 2
[11:10:27] <Dan York> Current Status
[11:10:44] <Dan York> Slide 3
[11:10:48] <Dan York> Changes in version -04
[11:12:23] <Dan York> doc - http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-problem-statement/
[11:13:03] <Dan York> Slide 4 - Next Steps
[11:13:16] <Dan York> Room is filling up as people seem to be returning from lunch
[11:13:42] <Dan York> Next up - use cases
[11:13:44] <Dan York> Slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-cdni-3.pdf
[11:14:17] <Dan York> Draft: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-use-cases/
[11:14:51] <Dan York> [Side note: I highly commend the CDNI chairs for creating an agenda in HTML with clickable links to the drafts. Makes it SO much easier to quickly get to the drafts.]
[11:15:11] <Dan York> Slide 3 - Changes since IETF 82
[11:15:56] <Dan York> Slide 4
[11:16:20] <Dan York> Slide 5 - Next Steps
[11:17:01] <Dan York> This is Gilles Bertrand speaking, by the way.
[11:18:43] <Dan York> Framework document
[11:19:00] <Dan York> Slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-cdni-11.pdf
[11:19:14] <Dan York> Slide 2: Overview
[11:19:40] <Dan York> Slide 3: Locus of Control
[11:20:03] <Dan York> Question - who is in charge? upstream or downstream CDN?
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[11:22:02] <Dan York> Francois Le Faucheu speaking (not as chair)
[11:23:04] <Dan York> 3 choices: 1) upstream remains in control; 2) control is delegated to downstream CDN; 3) add "check with me" parameter to the metadata
[11:23:18] <swainner> MIC: I think the locus of control has to remain with the uCDN. The macro session is controlled by the uCDN while the session delivery is controlled by the dCDN.
[11:23:24] <Dan York> Jon Peterson to the mic
[11:23:28] <Dan York> k
[11:23:58] <Dan York> in line to relay
[11:24:16] <Dan York> swainner - what is your full name?
[11:24:29] <swainner> Scott Wainner
[11:24:34] <Dan York> thx
[11:26:32] <Dan York> Presenter is Larry Peterson, by the way
[11:26:35] <Dan York> ??? at the mic
[11:27:11] <Dan York> That was Kent Leung
[11:27:42] <Dan York> Slide 4 - Delegated Authorization
[11:29:08] <Dan York> Francois Le Faucheu speaking
[11:29:30] <Dan York> we need to specify what is the access control mechanism across the CDNs?
[11:30:25] <Dan York> Slide 5 - In-Line metadata Exchange
[11:31:01] <Dan York> Slide 6 - Cascading CDNs
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[11:32:26] <Dan York> Discussion point: do we need to solve this? or is it not our problem?
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[11:35:34] <Dan York> Kent Leung at mic
[11:36:28] <Dan York> Jon Petersen at mic
[11:37:47] <Dan York> Mario (?) at mic
[11:38:02] Dan York wishes he had sat next to the mic :-)
[11:38:13] <Dan York> Jon P back at mic
[11:39:51] <Dan York> Rob Murray at mic
[11:40:12] <Dan York> (and he was the person speaking before when I wrote "Mario (?)")
[11:40:24] <Dan York> Francois Le Faucheu speaking
[11:43:06] <Dan York> Jan Seerdorf at mic
[11:48:24] <Dan York> Kent Leung at mic
[11:48:49] <Dan York> Andre Binder at mic
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[11:51:04] <Dan York> Matt Caufield (?) at mic
[11:51:32] <Dan York> Jon peterson at mic
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[11:56:08] <Dan York> ?? at mic?
[11:57:04] <Dan York> next slide
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[11:57:26] <Dan York> Slide 8 now
[11:57:32] <Dan York> CDNI-wide Data Model
[11:58:39] <Dan York> Next talk
[11:58:40] <Dan York> draft: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brandenburg-cdni-has/
[11:58:56] <Dan York> Slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-cdni-0.pdf
[11:59:08] <Dan York> Ray van Brandenburg presenting
[11:59:10] <Dan York> Slide 2
[11:59:13] <Dan York> background
[11:59:43] <Dan York> Slide 3 - Background 2
[12:00:19] <Dan York> "HAS" = HTTP Adaptive Streaming
[12:00:46] <Dan York> Slide 4 - Why this draft?
[12:01:47] <Dan York> Slide 5 - Problem 1 - What is a Content item?
[12:03:45] <Dan York> Slide 6 - Problem 2 - Dealing with manifest files
[12:04:28] <Dan York> Sooooo..... "cdn.com <http://cdn.com>" is an actual website. Should be "cdn.example.com <http://cdn.example.com>" or something like that.
[12:07:56] <Dan York> Next 2 slides...
[12:08:02] <Dan York> Now on Slide 8, Summary
[12:12:53] <Dan York> Kent Leung at mic
[12:14:39] <Dan York> ?? at mic
[12:14:50] <sophie.nachman> china mobile
[12:17:47] <Dan York> thank you
[12:18:56] <Dan York> Next presentation - Kent Leung on CDNi requirements
[12:18:58] <Dan York> Draft: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-cdni-requirements/
[12:19:21] <Dan York> Slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-cdni-2.pdf
[12:19:46] <Dan York> Slide 4 - Redirection for Cascaded CDNs
[12:20:57] <Dan York> Slide 5 - Trigger Function
[12:21:27] <Dan York> [Side note: Yea! for all the speakers putting slide numbers on the slides! ]
[12:21:42] <Dan York> Slide 6 - Intra-CDN Information Exposure
[12:22:03] <Dan York> Jon Peterson at mic
[12:23:57] <Dan York> ?? from Telefonica at mic
[12:25:06] <Dan York> Jon Peterson at mic
[12:26:12] <Dan York> That was Larry Peterson arguing with Jon Peterson
[12:26:41] <Dan York> Jon Peterson at mic
[12:27:14] <swainner> MIC: Seems we need to define what information is "intra-CDN information" and what is not.
[12:28:06] <Dan York> k
[12:29:16] <Dan York> relayed
[12:29:20] <swainner> thanks
[12:29:23] <Dan York> Jon P back at mic
[12:29:44] <Dan York> swainner - I assume you heard the somewhat predictable "send some text"?
[12:29:52] <swainner> yep
[12:29:56] <swainner> :-)
[12:29:59] <Dan York> Cullen Jennings at mic
[12:30:30] <Dan York> Yes, I think we're all agreeing it's unclear. :-)
[12:30:49] <Dan York> Slide 7 - uCDN Authorization Metadata
[12:32:14] <Dan York> Presentation done
[12:32:51] <Dan York> CDNI Metadata Merge
[12:32:54] <Dan York> Slides - http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-cdni-1.pdf
[12:33:01] <Dan York> Matt Caufield presenting
[12:33:06] <Dan York> Slide 2
[12:33:15] <Dan York> Slide 3
[12:34:25] <Dan York> slide 4
[12:35:41] <Dan York> Slide 5
[12:35:49] <Dan York> asking for comments
[12:36:20] <Dan York> Moving on
[12:36:59] <Dan York> Next presentation - draft: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-liu-cdni-metadata-interface/
[12:37:26] <Dan York> Slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-cdni-8.pdf
[12:38:38] <Dan York> Xiaoyan He presenting
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[12:39:53] <Dan York> Slide 2
[12:39:56] <Dan York> Goals
[12:40:06] <Dan York> Slide 3 - Data Model
[12:43:58] <Dan York> Slide 5
[12:44:17] <Dan York> Rich W. asking a clarifying question
[12:46:34] <Dan York> Slide 7
[12:48:29] <Dan York> Slide 8
[12:49:46] <Dan York> Slide 9
[12:49:52] <Dan York> Larry Peterson at mic
[12:50:22] <Dan York> Kent Leung at mic
[12:51:25] <Dan York> ?? from Orange at the mic
[12:54:31] <Dan York> Xin Li (??) from China Mobile
[12:55:43] <Dan York> Matt Caufield at the mic
[12:56:07] <sophie.nachman> it was Marcin Pilarski from Orange Poland
[12:56:54] <Dan York> Thank you
[12:57:20] <Dan York> Next time I volunteer to be Jabber scribe I will try to sit closer to the mic to see name tags :-)
[12:59:07] <sophie.nachman> Good bye then see you all tomorrow
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