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[15:58:58] <Valery Smyslov> Hi, Stanislav asked me to be a jabber scribe
[15:59:35] <Valery Smyslov> If you want me to speak for you, type mic
[15:59:46] <Alexey Melnikov> Valery Smyslov: you just need to relay messages from Jabber to mic. Another person is scribing in Etherpad
[16:00:04] <Valery Smyslov> OK
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[16:00:57] <PHB> Any idea where the chat window is on the WebEx panel?
[16:01:16] <Melinda> Click the bubble at the bottom of the main pane
[16:01:37] <PHB> oh there it is
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[16:01:57] <PHB> have to click the button
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[16:04:55] Rich Salz has set the subject to: CFRG Interim (post 107 virtuality)
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[16:04:55] <mcr> https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/notes-ietf-107-cfrg?useMonospaceFont=true
[16:05:48] <mcr> PHB, I wish that webex would let me move the panes (in the webrtc) around, because I'd rather the slides fit-width, and the chat was below.
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[16:06:26] <mcr> we should just sign the Bluesheets with our DT/people/URL.
[16:06:36] <Valery Smyslov> Are there virtual bluesheets?
[16:06:45] <Nick Sullivan> Yes, they are in the Etherpad
[16:06:51] <synp> Just sign at https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/notes-ietf-107-cfrg?useMonospaceFont=true
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[16:08:39] <Valery Smyslov> It seems that the etherpad link in datatracker's upcoming meetings page is wrong
[16:08:57] <Valery Smyslov> It goes to an empty etherpad
[16:09:02] <synp> Still the tools link?
[16:09:05] <mcr> Valery, it says "tools", then it's wrong.
[16:09:25] <mcr> :9009 and :443 are the same etherpad, but different properties on reliability vs access.
[16:10:17] <Valery Smyslov> No, it is completely wrong: https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/notes-ietf-interim-2020-cfrg-01?useMonospaceFont=true
[16:11:03] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> To check, "datatracker's upcoming meetings page" is
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/upcoming and has an "etherpad for
note takers" link to
https://etherpad.ietf.org:9009/p/notes-ietf-interim-2020-cfrg-01?useMonospaceFont=true
which is indeed not the one that we're looking at
[16:11:18] <Valery Smyslov> Indeed
[16:11:52] <mcr> bummer that it is inconsistent like that.
[16:12:17] <Valery Smyslov> How this can happen?
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[16:12:53] <mcr> the DT makes up an etherpad name for "interim" meetings, but this is actually an IETF107 online meeting... which one did chairs pick to put into agenda...
[16:13:02] <Nick Sullivan> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-cfrg-01/materials/agenda-interim-2020-cfrg-01-sessa is the agenda linked to by the meeting and it has the correct link to Etherpad. I'm not seeing the blank link.
[16:13:33] <Nick Sullivan> ah, I see the icon link
[16:13:54] <Alexey Melnikov> I might have picked a wrong Etherpad instance, but all links to it should be consistent
[16:14:31] <Alexey Melnikov> On my slides, that is
[16:16:57] <kaduk@jabber.org/barnowl> I think there is some argument that technically this is an "interim
meeting" and not an "IETF 107 online meeting", but don't feel a need
to debate that right now.
[16:18:12] <synp> If it's just recommendation without specification of the algorithms, one is enough
[16:18:41] <Alexey Melnikov> If people want to volunteer to co-edit PAKE related documents, you can also email directly to cfrg-chairs@ietf.org
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[16:21:41] <Alexey Melnikov> CFRG documents will include full technical specifications
[16:21:53] <Alexey Melnikov> I.e. what Stanislav said
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[16:23:45] <synp> If it was like some documents that say, "this is AES, it's described at that NIST document. Use that" we could have one document just contrasting them. Since it will include the specification and presumably test vectors and the like, it should definitely be two documents.
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[16:24:43] <Valery Smyslov> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-cfrg-01/materials/slides-interim-2020-cfrg-01-sessa-approaches-to-the-problem-of-making-pakes-quantum-safe
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[16:26:38] <PHB> The claim that 'quantuim supremacy' has been reached is disputed by many. There are other ways to solve that problem.
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[16:46:24] <Valery Smyslov> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-cfrg-01/materials/slides-interim-2020-cfrg-01-sessa-threshold-modes-for-ecdh-algorithms
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[16:58:07] <Russ Housley> I think it would be useful for CFRG to publish documents on threshold techniques for CFRG curves
[17:02:36] <Valery Smyslov> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-cfrg-01/materials/slides-interim-2020-cfrg-01-sessa-additional-stateful-hash-based-signature-parameters
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[17:04:10] <PHB> Thanks Russ
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[17:05:42] <mcr> I want to know if that's a magic wand on his wall.
[17:05:56] <Valery Smyslov> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/interim-2020-cfrg-01/materials/slides-interim-2020-cfrg-01-sessa-deterministic-ecdsa-and-eddsa-signatures-with-noise
[17:19:02] <Nick Sullivan> Rene Struik speaking
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[17:32:43] <Alexey Melnikov> Thank you all
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[17:33:27] <Valery Smyslov> Bye
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