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Yoav Nir has set the subject to: IETF 95 - COSE Meeting - https://tools.ietf.org/wg/cose/agenda?item=agenda-95-cose.html
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[08:00:25] ru2def has set the subject to: COSE IETF96
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[09:20:12] <Justin Richer> I'm apparently in the room a half dozen times, but I'm here :)
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[09:24:39] <Joe Canadas> so much Justin
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[09:29:22] <Takeshi Takahashi> welcome by chair
[09:29:37] <Takeshi Takahashi> Justing is attending remotely via Jabber
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[09:29:53] <Justin Richer> And I'm just getting connected...
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[09:31:22] <Takeshi Takahashi> hannes speaking
[09:32:18] <Takeshi Takahashi> message document, looking around implementations. specificaly for IoT, it is still immature. we may wait for a while until we receive some feedback.
[09:32:46] <Takeshi Takahashi> chair: how long shall we waint?
[09:33:42] <Takeshi Takahashi> unknow: we will start around september, some result will come by IETF97
[09:33:51] <Takeshi Takahashi> hannes: we anyway need some implementation
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[09:34:24] <Takeshi Takahashi> hannes: good to have spec, but better to have some perspective of implementation
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[09:34:53] <Takeshi Takahashi> now, cose message, by Jim
[09:35:00] <Justin Richer_8157> Jim, use the mic
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[09:38:54] <Takeshi Takahashi> hannes: a few candidates exist for crypto library
[09:40:16] <Justin Richer_8157> Somebody please move Jim closer to the mic, he's inaudible remote
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[09:40:25] <Justin Richer_8157> Or maybe the sepaker mic is off?
[09:41:21] <Justin Richer_8157> that's much better, thank you!
[09:43:28] <Takeshi Takahashi> mike: example doc is very useful.
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[09:44:43] <Takeshi Takahashi> jim: git hub repository.
[09:44:48] <Takeshi Takahashi> with examples.
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[09:45:34] <Takeshi Takahashi> chair: more review needed due to little review, and little examples.
[09:46:21] <Justin Richer_8157> [as chair] mic: we had a 2-week pre-review and a 2-week WGLC, you all have had time
[09:48:44] <Takeshi Takahashi> kathleen: ietf lc can be kicked back if needed.
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[09:49:28] <Takeshi Takahashi> chair: allocate more time to review.
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[09:50:32] <Takeshi Takahashi> now on Adding additional algorithm
[09:50:35] <Takeshi Takahashi> by jim
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[09:57:18] <Takeshi Takahashi> fiens (??): additional usecase for cose. in my use case, i use several key etablishment.
[09:57:38] <Ludwig Seitz> Renzo is at the mic
[09:57:43] <Takeshi Takahashi> thank you
[09:58:10] <Sean Leonard> mic: just an open question to participants. Jim mentioned that this work creates a large number of registries (or sub-registries). Does anyone view that as a problem? Namely requires too much management? Yes it means the protocol has smaller encodings, but at least at the "fat end", an implementation needs big tables to other identifiers.
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[10:00:30] <Takeshi Takahashi> ludwig: comment for sean. not all implementation can be the case.
[10:01:43] <Takeshi Takahashi> mike microsoft
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[10:02:45] <Sean Leonard> (request reference that mike jones is saying to be included in chat/jabber log)
[10:03:22] <Takeshi Takahashi> (I'll ask him later and put it here)
[10:03:38] <Takeshi Takahashi> mike: individual submission draft.
[10:04:41] <Takeshi Takahashi> draft-jones-cose-rsa
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[10:06:12] <Justin Richer_8157> Neither draft is adopted as WG work
[10:06:31] <Takeshi Takahashi> kathleen: clarification of two draft status.
[10:06:45] <Takeshi Takahashi> (yes, jim confirmed)
[10:09:21] <Justin Richer_8157> [chair] I see a number of questions:
[10:09:30] <Justin Richer_8157> 1) Do we see a need for this work? y/n
[10:09:30] <Takeshi Takahashi> kathleen: it is up to wg.
[10:09:38] <Justin Richer_8157> 2) If yes, should it be in this WG?
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[10:11:07] <Takeshi Takahashi> hum or the 1st question: none
[10:11:22] <Justin Richer_8157> we could do a 4-part hum: yes, no, need more info, or dont' care
[10:11:53] <Justin Richer_8157> @meetecho: the slides are flashing on remote
[10:12:23] <Takeshi Takahashi> 3 raised hands for implementation
[10:12:28] <Meetecho> there's no laptop attached to the beamer anymore
[10:12:44] <Takeshi Takahashi> TOny microsoft: for us, different use case.
[10:12:45] <Justin Richer_8157> @meetecho yeah, it's gone back to the logo now
[10:12:54] <Meetecho> yep, we disabled the stream (y)
[10:13:42] <Takeshi Takahashi> 4 more people are interested
[10:14:14] <Justin Richer_8157> mic: The chairs will take the question to the list, in a week?
[10:14:20] <Justin Richer_8157> let the poll run for 2 weeks
[10:15:01] <Justin Richer_8157> Thanks, I appreciate the inflection in the reading. :)
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[10:15:59] <Takeshi Takahashi> chair: do we see the need for this work? yes (strong hum ) no (weak, but not none), not enough information (strong hum)
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[10:21:04] <Justin Richer_8157> Remember that COSE can be used for a lot more than tokens
[10:23:05] <Takeshi Takahashi> chair: based on the hum, further discussion will continue.
[10:23:07] <Justin Richer_8157> I agree with Kepeng's read and we'll put a poll on the list in a week
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[10:23:17] <Justin Richer_8157> Thanks, everyone!
[10:23:19] <Takeshi Takahashi> meeting closed.
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[10:25:30] <Takeshi Takahashi> regarding Mike's reference, here it is : rfc7518 section 7.1.1, algorithm analysis documents
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