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[07:25:58] <Lou Berger> Session Materials: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/109/session/detnet
Note taking: https://codimd.ietf.org/notes-ietf-109-detnet
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[07:29:31] <LouBerger> @meetecho I see many leaving and reentering, is something wrong?
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[07:29:54] <Meetecho> Lou Berger: not that I know of
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[07:30:20] <Meetecho> We are monitoring the session and it seems fine
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[07:39:52] <Tony Przygienda> Fantastic Safari im iPad works
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[07:41:50] <Kireeti Kompella> im?  german?  you did put the verb at the end ...
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[07:42:59] <János Farkas> We have a packed agenda. Questions and discussions would be good at the  end of each presentation for the sake of time.
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[08:00:17] <Kireeti Kompella> private WANs can be large too, right?
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[08:00:48] <Kireeti Kompella> large as in e2e delay, # of hops
[08:00:57] <Stewart Bryant> Indeed - this is about degree of participation and trust ratheer than size
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[08:02:00] <János Farkas> yes
[08:02:15] <János Farkas> Charter: single administrative control or within a closed group of administrative control
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[08:03:36] <Kireeti Kompella> maybe kill the find in the presentation?
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[08:04:37] <Kireeti Kompella> thanks!
[08:04:40] <LouBerger> done!
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[08:06:33] <Kireeti Kompella> does IP traffic have such an "instinct" more than, say, Ehternet?
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[08:06:55] <LouBerger> ask at mic...
[08:07:05] <Dirk Trossen> it is probably more meant as 'traffic having the nature of...'?
[08:07:53] <Kireeti Kompella> yes, but that's packet vs circuit, no?  not IP vs Ethernet
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[08:08:09] <Dirk Trossen> @Kireeti Agreed
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[08:20:20] <Kireeti Kompella> would it not be important to discuss the implications of injecting OAM packets into a detnet path/channel, in terms of disturbing existing traffic?
[08:21:04] <LouBerger> it certainly will need to be accounted for in any allocation
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[08:22:05] <Kireeti Kompella> heisenberg's principle -- in actively measuring delay/jitter, you may actually affect it
[08:22:46] <David Black> I would support adoption of the OAM draft - commonality across the data planes and with RAW are both good things.
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[08:23:11] <LouBerger> Thanks david
[08:25:28] <János Farkas> As we are overtime, we should have questions and discussion on the list
[08:25:57] <LouBerger> @here we're planning on asking for questions/comments  on list so that the last presenter can show her material
[08:26:18] <LouBerger> (sorry about the text echo!)
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[08:27:06] <Mark McFadden> With the amount of new material here and the requests for working group adoption, perhaps an interim meeting for detnet would be good so that there would be time to discuss these drafts.
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[08:27:29] <LouBerger> Thats a good suggestion!
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[08:29:19] <Kireeti Kompella> @black: i'm not against, but it might be worth waiting to put a bit more meat on the OAM draft
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