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[06:38:29] <robux4> hello
[06:38:36] <Dave Rice> good morning
[06:40:09] <Dave Rice> 2:40am here in nyc, zzz
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[06:43:00] <robux4> and it's not even started yet
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[06:46:11] <Dave Rice> very exciting room audio available at http://congresshall3.conf.meetecho.com:8000/congresshall3.opus
[06:51:40] <robux4> at least we can tell it's working
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[07:05:28] <Ted.H> Howdy, if you would like something reflected to the room, please put MIC: in front of your comment.
[07:05:30] <Ted.H> Thanks!
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[07:25:00] <Dave Rice> Matroska is the basis of webM
[07:26:48] <Ted.H> Dave, if you want something reflected to the room, can put MIC: in front?
[07:27:17] <robux4> Matroska is currently supported in Chrome, Firefox and MS Edge
[07:27:59] <robux4> MIC: Matroska is currently supported in Chrome, Firefox and MS Edge, for streaming video
[07:28:17] <robux4> MIC: Opus can also be stored in Matroska for streaming
[07:29:02] <Dave Rice> MIC: The preservation of the video of the internet is longterm a complex matter filled with codecs that the gain wide use and then gradually fall into obsolescence. The role of a lossless codec helps preserve internet video in some form that is long-lasting
[07:29:04] <robux4> MIC: and unlike MP4, Matroska was designed for streaming on networks, even live streams
[07:31:29] <Ted.H> robux4, if you would prefer I use a different name to refer to you, please let me know.
[07:31:44] <robux4> you can use Steve Lhome, if you want
[07:31:48] <robux4> *Lhomme
[07:32:06] <Ted.H> Thanks
[07:32:15] <Dave Rice> MIC: SMPTE standards are behind paywalls and lack the features of IETF that are most appealing, such as the openness and transparency of the process
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[07:32:38] <Dave Rice> ok, Tessa answers the same
[07:34:02] <Dave Rice> MIC: today we are well familiar with the role of FLAC lossless audio on the internet, there is a similar need for FFV1 for lossless video as well. Just as we have lossless documents, audio, and photos on the internet, there is a future for lossless video on the internet as well.
[07:36:37] <Dave Rice> for reference http://github.com/ffmpeg/ffv1 and https://github.com/mediaarea/ebml-specification
[07:41:18] <robux4> MIC: As the original author of Matroska I'm already involved with the more formal specifications of EBML and Matroska that started a few months agoa and will continue participating wherever it is going to happen
[07:43:48] <Dave Rice> some in-person meetings at FOSDEM, but most is virtual
[07:44:21] <robux4> MIC: how each codec is defined in Matroska is outside of the main specs, it's a top layer and not all codec have to be defined formally
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[07:45:57] <Dave Rice> MIC: discussions on working on ffv1 within the IETF context starting in discussion on listservs in 2012. Matroska has an RFC Draft from 2004 (unfortunately this work wasn't completed, but there is sincere support to move forward with this now)
[07:46:16] <robux4> MIC: Matroska actually stands on top of EBML which can be used for a lot of other storage, just like a binary XML
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[07:49:05] <hta> (not for mike) I came in late - did the ICE charter get added to the agenda, and if so when?
[07:49:53] <Ted.H> It was bashed to the beginning
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[07:51:55] <ben> can people hear the speaker?
[07:52:11] <hta> ask him to eat the mike. he's too far away.
[07:52:49] <ben> better?
[07:52:52] <hta> yes.
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[08:23:03] <jon-ietf@jabber.org> mic check mic check?
[08:23:24] <jon-ietf@jabber.org> why doesn't the url of the lis tell you the source of the location data anyway?
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[08:25:43] <Paul Kyzivat> hummmmm
[08:26:04] <jon-ietf@jabber.org> thanks ted
[08:26:15] <Ted.H> Happy to mic check at any time
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[08:40:56] <Cullen Jennings> We have moved on to SLIM
[08:42:42] <Barry Leiba> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/charter-ietf-slim/
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[08:50:42] <Paul Kyzivat> mic: is there any doubt that, lacking anything else, the labeling *will* be used for routing?
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