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[00:02:44] <Peter Saint-Andre> nice slide on the beginning of the ICE age :-)
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[00:03:29] <Lorenzo Miniero> hey guys, let me know if you have any issue with the virtual queue
[00:03:41] <Lorenzo Miniero> you should all be able to make questions today
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[00:05:05] <Peter Saint-Andre> thanks, Lorenzo!
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[00:05:47] <Jonathan Lennox> Hello, I will be Jabber scribe.
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[00:06:06] <Jonathan Lennox> If you have comments for the mic, please prefix them with "mic:".
[00:06:19] <Jonathan Lennox> We have a virtual queue, please use it if possible.
[00:06:36] <Jonathan Lennox> When humming, please indicate what you're humming for.
[00:08:49] <Jonathan Lennox> Let me know if anyone needs me to track slide numbers.
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[00:10:38] <Bernard Aboba> I will read it.
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[00:12:56] <Bernard Aboba> I have a comment - does this mean that discussion will occur on Github rather than the mailing list?
[00:13:08] <Jonathan Lennox> Cullen Jennings at the mic
[00:13:24] <Peter Saint-Andre> GitHub seems good for issue tracking, but taking major issues to the list is important.
[00:16:36] <Emil Ivov> what's the url again?
[00:16:43] <Emil Ivov> that peter mentioned
[00:17:01] <Emil Ivov> https://github.com/pthatcher/icedev-wg is a 404
[00:17:07] <Emil Ivov> and so is https://github.com/icedev-wg
[00:17:34] <Emil Ivov> oh ok
[00:17:34] <Emil Ivov> https://github.com/ice-wg
[00:17:39] <Emil Ivov> thanks jonathan!
[00:17:53] <Jonathan Lennox> EKR at the mic
[00:19:03] <Jonathan Lennox> Ben Campbell
[00:20:20] <Jonathan Lennox> Martin Thomson
[00:21:59] <Jonathan Lennox> Cullen Jennings
[00:23:53] <Jonathan Lennox> Martin Thomson
[00:24:24] <Jonathan Lennox> EKR
[00:25:11] <Jonathan Lennox> Fluffy
[00:25:58] <Jonathan Lennox> EKR
[00:26:09] <Emil Ivov> not mic: that's such a bikeshed :)
[00:26:18] <Emil Ivov> i vote for bitbucket :)
[00:26:21] <Emil Ivov> (still not mic) :)
[00:27:33] <Bernard Aboba> If they refuse to join the list, are they covered by the "note well"???
[00:27:57] <Bernard Aboba> We have had this issue in W3C - non-members sending PRs but not covered under the IPR policy.
[00:28:43] <Jonathan Lennox> This was discussed in the Chair's Lunch yesterday — you put the Note Well in the github repo's Contributing.md and Readme.md
[00:29:17] <Jonathan Lennox> Do you want me to mention this at the mic?
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[00:37:28] <akeranen> Emil, you left the queue, right?
[00:37:58] <akeranen> Meetecho mic queue, I mean
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[00:54:03] <Emil Ivov> i didn't have a strong objection
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[01:08:57] <Jonathan Lennox> EKR at the mic
[01:12:03] <Jonathan Lennox> Fluffy, then Justin
[01:13:05] <Jonathan Lennox> Magnus
[01:14:58] <Jonathan Lennox> (Me)
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[02:00:16] <jesup> feed from room froze
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[02:01:06] <jesup> unfroze, and got Network error, have to log in again.  But no audio now.  REjoining
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[02:01:10] <Jonathan Lennox> Say "Meetecho" to invoke him
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[02:02:05] <jesup> ok, rejoining fixed it
[02:02:53] <Meetecho> jesup: sorry about that
[02:03:00] <Meetecho> let me know if that happens again and I'll kook into it
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[02:16:25] <Harold Thetiot> (Y)
[02:18:54] <Bernard Aboba> I think you may need to discuss how to recognize if the receiver can't handle this (e.g. no responses are received to the media sent).
[02:19:09] <Bernard Aboba> Because I presume this is not negotiated...
[02:21:09] <Jonathan Lennox> Bernard: Sorry for missing that before the topic changed…
[02:21:53] <akeranen> Good point Bernard. I'll add that to the notes.
[02:22:53] <Emil Ivov> is there a draft for this?
[02:25:26] <Bernard Aboba> ortc-lib implements TURN mobility as the backup - and yes, it does work.  
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[02:26:36] <Jonathan Lennox> Bernard: want relay?
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