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[15:57:09] <Meetecho Team> hi
[15:57:16] <Hosnieh Rafiee> Hi
[15:57:23] <Hosnieh Rafiee> how can I upload presentation
[15:57:30] <Meetecho Team> wait a minute
[15:57:37] <Hosnieh Rafiee> ok
[15:57:45] <Meetecho Team> press the triangle icon
[15:57:57] <Meetecho Team> close to your name
[15:58:13] <Meetecho Team> can you see it?
[15:58:31] <Hosnieh Rafiee> yes
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[15:58:59] <Hosnieh Rafiee> there is a preview
[15:59:02] <Hosnieh Rafiee> how I can remove it
[15:59:10] <Lorenzo Miniero> no need to remove it
[15:59:10] <Hosnieh Rafiee> ah ok
[15:59:11] <Hosnieh Rafiee> :)
[15:59:14] <Lorenzo Miniero> it is there as a help
[15:59:18] <Lorenzo Miniero> now unmute yourself
[15:59:26] <Lorenzo Miniero> using the triangle icon on the top left part of the screen
[15:59:31] <Lorenzo Miniero> there's a Play icon (a triangle)
[15:59:42] <Hosnieh Rafiee> I'm not in a list of participant
[15:59:48] <Hosnieh Rafiee> Presentation is over
[15:59:58] <Lorenzo Miniero> can you hear Tobia speaking?
[16:00:15] <Lorenzo Miniero> Hosnieh, please
[16:00:19] <Lorenzo Miniero> the slides are ok ;)
[16:00:24] <Lorenzo Miniero> we need to get the A/V working now
[16:00:28] <Hosnieh Rafiee> no
[16:00:39] <Lorenzo Miniero> are you using Chrome?
[16:00:47] <Hosnieh Rafiee> yes
[16:00:53] <Hosnieh Rafiee> I hear no voice
[16:01:00] <Lorenzo Miniero> did you accept the permission on top when asked?
[16:01:08] <Lorenzo Miniero> the permission to access webcam and mic
[16:01:22] <Hosnieh Rafiee> ok I enabled it and gave persmission
[16:01:54] <Lorenzo Miniero> do you see a PLAY icon next to your name on top?
[16:02:02] <Hosnieh Rafiee> yes I clicked on it
[16:02:06] <Lorenzo Miniero> we do hear you
[16:02:16] <Lorenzo Miniero> can you hear us as well?
[16:02:46] <Lorenzo Miniero> no problem, it's the people on the Jabber room
[16:02:59] <Lorenzo Miniero> if you can't hear us it's likelya local issue on your side
[16:03:07] <Lorenzo Miniero> did you hear the "you are now unmuted" message?
[16:03:10] <Lorenzo Miniero> when unmuting?
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[16:03:43] <Lorenzo Miniero> check if your pc has different volumes for different applications
[16:03:49] <Lorenzo Miniero> it happens sometimes
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[16:04:25] <Lorenzo Miniero> do you see Tobia's video?
[16:05:30] <Lorenzo Miniero> as an alternative
[16:05:35] <Lorenzo Miniero> try opening the Flash audio stream
[16:05:45] <Lorenzo Miniero> it's the speakers icon on the top right part of the screen
[16:06:08] <Lorenzo Miniero> there's a "Start Flash audio" yes
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[16:08:47] <Lorenzo Miniero> we do hear you
[16:09:31] <Lorenzo Miniero> no those are the passive streams
[16:09:48] <Lorenzo Miniero> if you use those, you'll get echo
[16:09:58] <Lorenzo Miniero> because you'll get your own audio back
[16:13:54] <Lorenzo Miniero> leave the room with Chrome first please
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[16:17:21] <Lorenzo Miniero> yes
[16:17:26] <Lorenzo Miniero> if you don't hear yourself it's fine
[16:17:29] <Lorenzo Miniero> we're removing your echo
[16:17:36] <Lorenzo Miniero> keep talking and check if it's ok for you
[16:17:42] <AA a> do you steel hear echo?
[16:17:47] <AA a> *still
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[17:00:54] <Hosnieh Rafiee> I guess I have to enter the room when I have presentation
[17:01:01] <Hosnieh Rafiee> because I will be directly as a speaker
[17:01:09] <Meetecho Scribe> no problem
[17:01:13] <Hosnieh Rafiee> :)
[17:01:47] <Meetecho Scribe> you can stay and not unmute yourself
[17:02:09] <Hosnieh Rafiee> ok
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[17:03:54] <Hosnieh Rafiee> I guess not possible, it kiills me out
[17:03:55] <Hosnieh Rafiee> :)
[17:04:37] <Hosnieh Rafiee> kicks not kills
[17:04:38] <Hosnieh Rafiee> :)
[17:04:58] <Meetecho Scribe> Presentation is over
[17:05:19] <Meetecho Scribe> Hosnieh
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[17:05:24] <Meetecho Scribe> join the room
[17:05:37] <Meetecho Scribe> accept the microphone and webcam request
[17:05:39] <Hosnieh Rafiee> Yes
[17:05:50] <Meetecho Scribe> but do not press the triangle icon
[17:05:53] <Hosnieh Rafiee> I did and after a while
[17:06:01] <Hosnieh Rafiee> it just sends me message "time out"
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[17:06:19] <Hosnieh Rafiee> I'm retrying
[17:06:42] <wesgeorge> I’ll be jabber scribing
[17:06:48] <Hosnieh Rafiee_8569> ok it appears that this time it works
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[17:06:57] <Meetecho Scribe> ok
[17:06:58] Lars joins the room
[17:07:17] <wesgeorge> currently discussing http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-intarea-6.pdf
[17:07:19] <wesgeorge> slide 4
[17:07:59] <wesgeorge> if you need comments proxied please precede them with “Mic:”
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[17:08:53] <wesgeorge> fred templin - joe touch will update doc by end august
[17:09:34] <wesgeorge> slide 5
[17:11:57] <wesgeorge> slide 6 agenda bash?
[17:12:06] <Meetecho Scribe> Presentation is over
[17:13:28] <wesgeorge> now discussing http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-intarea-0.pdf
[17:13:31] <wesgeorge> dan wing presenting
[17:13:37] <wesgeorge> now, with less feedback :-)
[17:13:41] <wesgeorge> slide 2
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[17:15:04] <Meetecho Scribe> hi all, FYI a Meetecho session is avalaible at http://www.meetecho.com/ietf90/intarea
[17:15:14] <Dave Thaler> Juan-Carlos's link (https://mentor.ieee.org/802-ec/dcn/14/ec-14-0043-01-00EC-internet-privacy-tutorial.pdf) doesn't work for me.  Anyone else?
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[17:15:20] <wesgeorge> slide 3
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[17:16:36] <Dave Thaler> (got it to work now)
[17:16:37] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 4: Address Sharing
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[17:17:05] <wesgeorge> anyone remote, audio good?
[17:17:14] <Hosnieh Rafiee> yes that is great
[17:17:20] <Simon Romano> (ok)
[17:17:27] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 5: Address Sharing with Host ID
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[17:18:21] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 6: Privacy Comparison
[17:19:11] <wesgeorge> lars egbert at the mic
[17:19:41] <wesgeorge> stupid autocorrect — eggert
[17:19:53] <wesgeorge> erik kline
[17:20:34] <wesgeorge> mark townsley
[17:20:41] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 5: Address Sharing with Host ID
[17:22:27] <wesgeorge> juancarlos
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[17:27:34] <wesgeorge> lorenzo colitti
[17:28:07] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 6: Privacy Comparison
[17:28:10] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 5: Address Sharing with Host ID
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[17:32:07] <Mark Townsley> https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ndvkko83yavdvz/address-sharing.jpg
[17:32:13] <Mark Townsley> Credit: Jason Fesler
[17:32:23] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 6: Privacy Comparison
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[17:33:27] <Mark Townsley> https://www.dropbox.com/s/p2wh9awue4c3cdk/address-sharing-bad-guy.jpg
[17:34:07] <wesgeorge> ted lemon at mic
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[17:34:42] <wesgeorge> doug otis at mic
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[17:36:48] <wesgeorge> Barbara Stark
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[17:40:43] <wesgeorge> tim chown
[17:42:02] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 5: Address Sharing with Host ID
[17:42:41] <wesgeorge> lorenzo coliti
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[17:46:58] <Meetecho Scribe> Presentation is over
[17:48:18] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 2: IETF 90
[17:48:24] <wesgeorge> Brandon now presenting http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-intarea-1.pdf
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[17:50:16] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 3: IETF 90
[17:51:14] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 4: IETF 90
[17:51:18] <wesgeorge> the slide numbers don’t match what meet echo is putting in jabber - we’re just now on slide 3
[17:51:26] <wesgeorge> according to the slide numbers anyway
[17:52:07] <Hosnieh Rafiee_8569> true
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[17:54:15] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 5: IETF 90
[17:56:22] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 6: IETF 90
[17:58:00] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 7: IETF 90
[17:59:01] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 8: IETF 90
[17:59:41] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 9: IETF 90
[18:00:15] <wesgeorge> ted lemon
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[18:02:14] <wesgeorge> lorenzo
[18:02:49] <rwheeldon> what's ipv4-specific about this draft? nothing afaik
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[18:10:14] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 8: IETF 90
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[18:11:15] <Meetecho Scribe> Presentation is over
[18:11:54] <wesgeorge> Yoann Desmouceaux presenting http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-intarea-2.pdf
[18:12:10] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 2: Context
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[18:13:02] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 3: IPv6 multicast
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[18:15:44] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 4: Multicast and WiFi Power-Save
[18:16:44] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 5: Multicast and WiFi Power-Save
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[18:20:02] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 6: Large-scale networks
[18:20:24] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 7: Solutions?
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[18:28:59] <Meetecho Scribe> Presentation is over
[18:29:25] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 2: Problem Statement
[18:29:29] <wesgeorge> now reviewing http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-intarea-3.pdf
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[18:30:02] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 3: Generic RAO
[18:30:22] <Meetecho Scribe> Slide 4: Generic RAO (cont’d)
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[18:33:14] <wesgeorge> ron bonica presenting. old slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-intarea-5.pdf
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[18:41:39] <Meetecho Scribe> Presentation is over
[18:42:35] <wesgeorge> now Hosieh is presenting virtually via meet echo. presentation http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/90/slides/slides-90-intarea-4.pdf
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[18:43:19] <Carsten Strotmann> no audio on the direct (non meetecho) stream
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[18:44:09] <wesgeorge> yeah I think it’s a matter of preventing a feedback loop between the audio source that is coming from meet echo and the room audio
[18:44:29] <Carsten Strotmann> I'm now on meetecho, works there
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[18:54:18] <wesgeorge> brian haberman at the mic
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[19:03:53] <Carsten Strotmann> thanks!
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