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Tuesday, 6 November 2012< ^ >
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[21:56:18] <Matt Zekauskas> well, my audio stream just ended, and now I'm getting errors opening. Anyone else listen to audio?
[21:56:32] <Matt Zekauskas> (it wasn't very exciting, only background room chatter, so far :) )
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[22:00:58] <Joachim Fabini> Audio seems to be back again.
[22:01:02] <Matt Zekauskas> super
[22:01:04] <Matt Zekauskas> me too
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[22:01:23] <aacosta> IPPM session starting
[22:01:31] <Matt Zekauskas> <wave>
[22:01:35] <aacosta> Al Morton speaking
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[22:03:40] <Matt Zekauskas> tell Al all slide decks should be there as PDF
[22:03:58] <aacosta> he got it.
[22:04:07] <Matt Zekauskas> and he's up first, so he can just do the advanced stream and sampling framework
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[22:06:21] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Starting: Advanced Stream and Sampling
Framework for IPPM
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[22:07:55] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 2: Status & Motivation
[22:09:33] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 3: Scope of Advanced Framework
[22:10:28] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 4: Measurement Methodology & Setup
[22:10:50] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 5: 1. Expand elements of Type-P
2. Packet History Influence
[22:11:48] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Question on mic
[22:12:41] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Comment. It will be commented later (huawei person from Germany)
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[22:13:01] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 6: Access Technology Change (App-transparent)
[22:13:17] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 7: Time-slotted Networks
[22:13:55] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 8: IPPM Feedback on the list
[22:14:16] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 9: Goals – Next Steps
[22:15:02] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 10: Summary Status and Discussion
[22:15:06] <Joachim Fabini> Btw, some publically available papers on measurement methodology are referenced in the draft.
[22:15:38] <Matt Zekauskas> Al: goal is 2330-bis, an applicability statement, new metrics?
[22:15:52] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Question from the person of Huawei
[22:16:05] <Joachim Fabini> Yes
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[22:16:44] <Matt Zekauskas> (looking more specifically for the output al is working on)
[22:17:08] <Matt Zekauskas> al says, offline talk more. that's fine!
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[22:17:38] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Starting: Hybrid Measurement using IPPM Metrics
[22:17:45] <Matt Zekauskas> thanks for relaying, btw
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[22:18:09] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 1: Hybrid?
[22:19:51] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 2: Requirements for Specification
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[22:21:11] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 3: Passive OWD example
[22:22:16] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 4: Candidate scenarios
[22:23:33] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 5: IPFIX for IPPM
[22:24:17] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 6: Combined Hybrid example deployment
[22:25:27] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 7: Discussion
[22:25:49] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Question from: Matt on the mic
[22:26:39] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Question to Matt from the Huawei person
[22:27:20] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Huawei's person name: Pentikousis Kostas
[22:28:15] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Comment from Michael
[22:28:58] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Comment from James Miller
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[22:31:31] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Starting: Model Based Metrics
[22:31:58] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 1: Bulk Transport Capacity
[22:32:52] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 2: BTC is hard for a reason
[22:34:22] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 3: A another way to do BTC
[22:34:57] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 4: An example
[22:35:50] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 5: The pieces (simplified)
[22:36:30] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 6: Additional parameters
[22:36:39] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> going back: Slide 5
[22:37:08] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 6: Additional parameters
[22:38:11] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 7: Common Calculations
[22:39:36] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 8: Property 1: CBR loss rate
[22:41:05] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 9: Property 2: Queue burst capacity
[22:42:26] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 10: Property 3: Stable at onset of congestion
[22:42:55] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 11: Queuing example (From "Windowed Ping")
[22:44:16] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 12: Additional test: Cross traffic/unidentified load
[22:44:29] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 13: Possible additional tests
[22:44:54] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 14: Derating and Calibration
[22:45:04] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 15: The goal
[22:46:26] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Starting: Data Curation
[22:46:35] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 1: The problem
[22:47:08] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 2: A scenario
[22:47:44] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 3: Basic (technical) approach
[22:49:18] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> James Miller on the mic
[22:50:33] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Michael on the mic
[22:51:21] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Michael on the mic
[22:51:57] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> discussion Matt <--> Michael
[22:52:08] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Brian on the mic
[22:52:46] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Starting: Network Performance Measurement for IPsec
[22:53:00] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 1: Problem Statement
[22:53:37] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 2: OWAMP Security
[22:54:28] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 3: OWAMP Key Generation and Transport
[22:55:48] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 4: Some Observations
[22:56:40] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 5: So, why not consider IPsec or TLS etc. to protect O/TWAMP?
[22:57:30] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 7: Performance Measurement with IPsec
[22:59:03] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 8: A Proposed Solution
[22:59:38] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 9: Thank you
[23:00:11] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Jacon on the mic
[23:00:17] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Jacob on the mic
[23:00:45] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Pentikousis on the mic
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[23:02:33] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Pentikousis in the mic
[23:04:04] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Starting: Flow-based Performance Measurement
[23:04:27] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 1: OUTLINE
[23:04:45] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 2: FPM Review
[23:06:02] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 3: Update
[23:07:05] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 4: Update
[23:07:10] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 5: Why FPM
[23:07:50] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 6: Why FPM
[23:08:08] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 7: Thanks
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[23:09:58] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Comming soon :) -------> Rate Measurement Problem Statement
[23:10:18] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> coming soon
[23:11:15] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Two drafts left: 1) Rate Measurement Problem Statement and 2) Advancing RFC 2679 (One-way Delay)
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[23:18:28] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Starting: Rate Measurement Problem Statement
[23:18:35] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 1: Motivation (skipped)
[23:19:02] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> (Skipped some slides)
[23:19:12] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 6: Conclusion + Next Steps
[23:19:29] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Jacob in the mic
[23:20:19] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Matt M in the mic
[23:22:34] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Starting: RFC 2679 bis One-way Delay Metric
[23:23:00] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 2: Overview of bis version (first section)
[23:23:04] <Matt Zekauskas> I have a poitner for guy, can at least get him to respond (he may not be able to help)
[23:23:24] <Matt Zekauskas> (no need to bring that to mic, I will talk to al)
[23:23:46] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> sure, let me know. I'll do my best
[23:24:48] <Alejandro Acosta (monitor)> Slide 3: Overview of Editor’s proposals
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[23:31:03] <Matt Zekauskas> Thanks Al!
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[23:31:28] <Matt Zekauskas> [end of meeting
[23:31:31] <Matt Zekauskas> ]
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