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[07:00:30] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: IP Performance Metrics
[07:00:47] <Tobia Castaldi> Current presenter: Chairs
[07:00:48] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: IP Performance Metrics
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[07:01:49] <wcerveny@gmail.com> Tobia, are you the jabber scribe?
[07:02:02] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Note Well
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[07:02:35] <Tobia Castaldi> Hi wcerveny.... no, I'm the Meetecho scribe :)
[07:02:46] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Agenda: WG Items
[07:02:58] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Agenda: Other Items
[07:03:15] <wcerveny@gmail.com> ah, ok
[07:03:31] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: Status
[07:04:02] <Tobia Castaldi> BTW a Meetecho session is available at http://www.meetecho.com/ietf87/ippm
[07:04:10] <Tobia Castaldi> Please use a different NickName if you are already logged into the ippm jabber room
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[07:05:14] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: Advanced Stream and Sampling Framework f
[07:05:24] <Tobia Castaldi> Current presenter: J. Fabini
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[07:05:53] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Status: IPPM Charter Update
[07:06:12] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Motivation
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[07:07:17] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Scope of Advanced Framework
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[07:07:44] <benoit.claise> what type of note level do you need?
[07:08:03] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: Time-slotted Randomness Cancellation (TS
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[07:09:00] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: Time-slotted Randomness Cancellation (TS
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[07:10:24] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 7: Randomness Cancellation (TSRC)
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[07:11:28] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 8: Consequences TSRC
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[07:12:58] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 9: Consequences TSRC (ctd).
[07:14:14] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 10: Consequences TSRC (ctd).
[07:15:12] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 11: Main Comment (Kostas): Widen Scope
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[07:16:54] <wcerveny@gmail.com> who is mic?
[07:17:04] <wcerveny@gmail.com> i mean who is at mic?
[07:17:17] <healthyao2000> no jabber scriber?
[07:18:15] <Tobia Castaldi> can you see him in the video now?
[07:18:57] <Simon Romano> He's Kostas
[07:19:07] <wcerveny@gmail.com> ah ok, thx
[07:20:24] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 12: Summary Status and Discussion
[07:21:12] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 13: Summary Status and Discussion
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[07:23:30] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Bulk Transport Capacity testing is hard!
[07:24:25] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Model Based Metrics: A better way to do
[07:26:30] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: The pieces (simplified)
[07:28:02] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: Measurement Algebra with an example
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[07:29:23] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: Key Network Properties
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[07:29:47] <hardie@jabber.psg.com> 5 hands raised for "have read the draft"
[07:30:15] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 7: A path can sustain a BTC TCP flow (Data
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[07:32:08] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 8: A path can sustain a BTC TCP flow (Data
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[07:33:47] <spencerdawkins.ietf> Do people have a sense of how tied to TCP this draft is? I'm wondering how much changes if you do SCTP, for example. Probably not important, I'm just curious.
[07:33:55] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 9: The MBM tests
[07:34:18] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 10: Table of Measurement Methods
[07:34:28] <Matt Mathis> SCTP is supposed to be "TCP compatible" on these details
[07:34:30] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 11: Single Property Tests (7.1, 7.2) and App
[07:36:17] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 12: Single Property Tests (7.3, 7.4) and App
[07:37:06] <spencerdawkins.ietf> @matt - thanks. So the model would be for SCTP across multiple 5-tuples? that makes sense, if it's true :-)
[07:37:22] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 13: A look at Headway
[07:37:44] <Matt Mathis> by policy, sctp and TCP are supposed to be the same
[07:38:27] <spencerdawkins.ietf> @matt - thanks
[07:38:38] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 14: Headway (as described in the IETF86 slid
[07:38:44] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 15: Headway
[07:39:19] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 16: Headway used in Pacing Methods
[07:40:33] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 17: Headway used in Repeated SlowStart Pacin
[07:41:44] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 18: Deciding if a test passes
[07:42:13] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 19: Sequential Probability Ratio Test (SPRT)
[07:44:08] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 20: Different approaches to using SPRT in MB
[07:44:11] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 21: Using H0 (p0) at 80 Mbps Target p1 at 56
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[07:46:49] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 22: Using H0 (p0) at 80 Mbps Target p1 at 40
[07:48:12] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 23: Using H1 (p1) at 80 Mbps Target
[07:48:45] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 24: Using H1 (p1) at 80 Mbps Target p0 at 10
[07:49:07] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 25: Next Steps
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[07:55:35] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Subscribers    
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[07:55:49] <Tobia Castaldi> Current presenter: Al Morton
[07:55:50] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Subscribers    
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[08:00:40] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: Advancing Metrics on the Standards Track
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[08:00:55] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Summary
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[08:01:53] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Results Summary (details in memo)
[08:02:39] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Next Steps
[08:03:23] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: RFC 6390: BCP Guidelines for New Perform
[08:05:03] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: Statistical References
[08:06:35] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: RFC 6390: BCP Guidelines for New Perform
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[08:08:10] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: Rate Measurement Test Protocol Problem S
[08:08:25] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Scope
[08:08:46] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Scope (contd.)
[08:09:15] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Revisions (03)
[08:09:54] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: draft-ietf-ippm-lmap-path-00
[08:10:13] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: TCP testing (open issue)
[08:12:03] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 7: Conclusion   Next Steps
[08:13:00] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 9: Summary of Specs
[08:13:22] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: TCP testing (open issue)
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[08:14:45] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: Network Performance Measurement for IPse
[08:14:56] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Background
[08:15:08] <Tobia Castaldi> Current presenter: Kostas
[08:16:05] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Proposed Enhancement
[08:17:57] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: OWAMP-Control Initiation
[08:19:11] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: Server Greeting [RFC 4656]
[08:19:38] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: Server Greeting [-ippm-ipsec]
[08:20:35] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: Server Greeting [-ippm-ipsec]
[08:20:48] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 7: Key Derivation Update
[08:22:21] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 8: Greeting Optimization 1 [-ippm-ipsec]
[08:22:38] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 9: Greeting Optimization 2 [-ippm-ipsec]
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[08:22:44] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 10: Optimizing Set-Up-Response
[08:23:32] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 11: Set-UP-Response [RFC 4656]
[08:23:37] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 12: Optimization 1 [-ippm-ipsec]
[08:23:42] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 13: Optimization 2 [-ippm-ipsec]
[08:24:12] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 14: Proposal Advantages
[08:25:53] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 15: Way Forward
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[08:35:22] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: A    
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[08:35:22] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Background    
 
[08:36:01] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: New    
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[08:37:29] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Well-­‐defined    
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[08:38:30] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: The    
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[08:39:57] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: Schedulling    
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[08:40:47] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 7: StaZsZcs    
 
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[08:41:26] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 8: Other    
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[08:42:20] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 9: Registries    
 
[08:42:43] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 10: Independent    
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[08:43:37] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 11: Sub-­‐registries    
 
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[08:44:59] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 12: Sub-­‐registries    
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[08:45:05] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 13: Changes    
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[08:49:39] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: Performance Metrics Registry
[08:49:49] <Tobia Castaldi> Current presenter: Benoit Claise
[08:49:50] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: Performance Metrics Registry
[08:49:52] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Background •  IETF performance metri
[08:50:48] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Background
[08:51:22] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: The Solution: a Common Template •  R
[08:51:47] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: RFC 6390 Template for Perf. Metric Defin
[08:54:50] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 7: This Draft Version 00
[08:54:53] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 8: A Registry: comparison to the IPFIX Regi
[08:55:10] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 9: Possible Registry Entry
[08:56:10] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 10: What’s Next? (part 1) •  We must m
[08:57:19] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 11: What’s Next? (part 2)
[08:57:51] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 12: draft-bagnulo-ippm-new-registry-independ
[08:59:52] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 13: Performance Metrics Registry
[09:01:33] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 12: draft-bagnulo-ippm-new-registry-independ
[09:01:37] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 11: What’s Next? (part 2)
[09:01:39] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 9: Possible Registry Entry
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[09:06:49] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 12: draft-bagnulo-ippm-new-registry-independ
[09:07:10] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 9: Possible Registry Entry
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[09:19:43] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: Type-P Descriptor Monitoring in TWAMP
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[09:20:18] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Problem Statement
[09:20:20] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: TWAMP-Control Extension
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[09:21:37] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: UDP Checksum Trailer in OWAMP and TWAMP
[09:21:38] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Background
[09:21:43] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Intermediate Entities
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[09:22:44] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Overview
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[09:23:04] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: Checksum Trailer
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[09:23:24] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: OWAMP Test Packet with Checksum Trailer
[09:23:30] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 9: Interoperability with Existing Implement
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[09:23:53] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 10: History and Next Steps
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[09:24:25] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 1: Coloring based IP Flow Performance Measu
[09:24:33] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 2: Problem Statement
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[09:25:08] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 3: Scenario of Passive Measurement
[09:25:32] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 4: Rationale of Coloring based PM (Packet D
[09:25:58] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: Rationale of Coloring based PM (Packet D
[09:26:40] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: IPFPM Framework and Components
[09:26:43] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 7: MP2MP Reference Model
[09:26:50] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 5: Rationale of Coloring based PM (Packet D
[09:27:20] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 6: IPFPM Framework and Components
[09:27:22] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 7: MP2MP Reference Model
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[09:27:39] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 8: Some Considerations
[09:27:46] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 9: R-Timer Consideration
[09:28:00] <Tobia Castaldi> Slide 10: Next Steps
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