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Yoav Nir has set the subject to: IPsecME Meeting at IETF 95 in Buenos Aires - https://tools.ietf.org/wg/ipsecme/agenda?item=agenda-95-ipsecme.html
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[11:58:00] Yoav Nir has set the subject to: IPsecME Meeting at IETF 96 in Berlin - https://tools.ietf.org/wg/ipsecme/agenda?item=agenda-96-ipsecme.html
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[12:05:42] <Yoav Nir> I'll be the Jabber scribe. If you want something repeated at the room mic, prefix it with "mic:"
[12:06:15] <Yoav Nir> (except when I'm presenting...)
[12:09:39] <Yoav Nir> Summary of my presentation: ddos-protection to be progressed. Yoav to write the shepherd writeup
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[12:11:17] <Yoav Nir> Tero presenting https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/slides/slides-96-ipsecme-2.pdf
[12:11:20] <Yoav Nir> slide #7
[12:11:55] <Yoav Nir> slide #8
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[12:13:35] <Yoav Nir> Looking at slide #6
[12:16:06] <Yoav Nir> slide #11
[12:16:35] <Yoav Nir> Sheila Frenkel at the mic
[12:17:09] <Yoav Nir> *Frankel
[12:19:16] <Scott Fluhrer> Also, is there any particular reason there must be a NIST approved MUST algorithm?
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[12:19:41] <Scott Fluhrer> Shouldn't it be acceptable for a NIST algorithm be a SHOULD?
[12:19:43] <Yoav Nir> USG is a very big user of IPsec
[12:20:05] <Yoav Nir> I think it's acceptable
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[12:20:10] <Scott Fluhrer> Yes, but the reason we have MUST algorithms is for interoperabilty
[12:20:39] <Scott Fluhrer> USG applications can make further requirements on IPSec implementations
[12:20:51] <Yoav Nir> At this point in time, AES_CBC is the best thing to do for interop
[12:21:07] <Scott Fluhrer> True...
[12:21:39] <Yoav Nir> There are nearly zero implementations of either ChaCha or AES-GCM for IKEv2.
[12:22:01] <Yoav Nir> Daniel Migault presenting https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/slides/slides-96-ipsecme-8.pdf
[12:24:31] <Yoav Nir> slide #3
[12:24:36] <Yoav Nir> slide #4
[12:26:40] <Yoav Nir> slide #5
[12:28:49] <Yoav Nir> slide #6
[12:30:09] <Yoav Nir> Timothy Winters at the mic
[12:30:52] <Yoav Nir> Talking about Linux kernel issue with AUTH_HMAC_SHA2_256_128
[12:31:20] <Yoav Nir> slide #7
[12:32:06] <Yoav Nir> slide #8
[12:32:22] <Yoav Nir> Now me presenting https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/slides/slides-96-ipsecme-5.pdf
[12:33:30] <Yoav Nir> Tommy Pauly presenting https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/slides/slides-96-ipsecme-9.pdf
[12:33:42] <Yoav Nir> slide #2
[12:35:00] <Yoav Nir> slide #3
[12:37:07] <Yoav Nir> slide #4
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[12:41:51] <Yoav Nir> Teddy Hogeborn at the mic
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[12:44:11] <Yoav Nir> slide #5
[12:46:09] <Yoav Nir> slide #6
[12:47:24] <Brandon Williams> hummmmm
[12:47:27] <Valery Smyslov> hummmmm
[12:48:03] <Yoav Nir> Tero presenting on https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/slides/slides-96-ipsecme-1.pdf
[12:48:53] <Yoav Nir> slide #2
[12:51:11] <Yoav Nir> slide #3
[12:52:18] <Yoav Nir> slide #4
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[12:53:35] <Yoav Nir> slide #5
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[12:55:58] <Yoav Nir> slide #6
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[12:58:56] <Yoav Nir> slide #7
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[13:02:00] <Scott Fluhrer> Might I suggest that we need to talk about requirements first, and then once we have the requirements, talk about solutions
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[13:03:41] <whatdafuq> scott, that's no fun!
[13:03:56] <Scott Fluhrer> Oops, sorry about that :-)
[13:04:07] <Yoav Nir> Say it on the room mic?
[13:04:18] <Scott Fluhrer> Naah, they've already moved on...
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[13:12:30] <Yoav Nir> Mark O at the mic
[13:14:02] <Meetecho> Scott Fluhrer: are you still in queue waiting to make questions, or did you mean to release the floor?
[13:14:11] <Meetecho> asking as you're still projected on the 2nd screen here
[13:14:45] <Yoav Nir> slide #10
[13:23:01] <Yoav Nir> Looking at slide #9 of the chair slides
[13:24:45] <Yoav Nir> Slide #10
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[13:30:08] <Yoav Nir> Paul Wouters presenting https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/slides/slides-96-ipsecme-4.pdf
[13:30:33] <Yoav Nir> slide #2
[13:33:14] <Yoav Nir> slide #4
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[13:38:59] <Valery Smyslov> hummmmm
[13:39:43] <Valery Smyslov> hummmmm
[13:40:06] <Yoav Nir> yes - quite a few hums ; no - *crickets*
[13:40:39] <Yoav Nir> Next up: Yoav presenting https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/slides/slides-96-ipsecme-0.pdf
[13:55:21] <Valery Smyslov> hummmmm
[13:56:05] <Yoav Nir> Diet ESP - Daniel Migault - https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/96/slides/slides-96-ipsecme-7.pdf
[13:56:52] <Yoav Nir> slide #2
[13:56:59] <Yoav Nir> (numbers are those printed on the slides)
[13:57:36] <Yoav Nir> slide #3
[13:58:06] <Yoav Nir> slide #4
[13:58:13] <Yoav Nir> slide #5
[14:00:01] <Yoav Nir> slide #6
[14:00:12] <Yoav Nir> slide #7
[14:00:22] <Yoav Nir> slide #8
[14:01:01] <Yoav Nir> slide #9
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