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Tuesday, July 17, 2018< ^ >
Mallory Knodel has set the subject to: IRTFOPEN @ IETF-99 - https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/99/agenda/agenda-99-irtfopen-00.txt
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[13:31:24] <Yoshiro Yoneya> Does this meeting really continue until 12:30?
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[13:32:46] <Yoshiro Yoneya> https://github.com/IASA2/Meetings/blob/master/IETF-102/Agenda.md
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[13:35:15] <Yoshiro Yoneya> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/slides-102-iasa2-iasa2-working-group-slides-with-agenda-02
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[13:37:47] <Yoshiro Yoneya> That was for iasa2.
[13:37:50] <slm> ah.  i was confused.  thanks
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[13:43:44] <slm> hm.  meetecho is showing chair table not speaker.
[13:44:04] <slm> better.  thanks
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[13:44:51] <slm> anybody know how the hijack numbers were computed?
[13:45:50] <slm> i should have just been patient.  explained on next slide
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[14:17:25] <Sandra Murphy> good work and great presentation!   (please relay)
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[14:22:29] <slm> query about relay3 forwarding relay2 traffic to relay1 assumes bgp routing policy - not necessarily that this 2-connected graph is using bgp to share traffic
[14:24:20] <Daniel Burnett> Someone should remind PHB not to yell at guest speakers.  Not very welcoming
[14:24:28] <Alexander Mayrhofer> Proof of Work is not the future, i agree.
[14:25:14] <slm> is there a jabber scribe here to convey questions to the meeting?
[14:25:19] <Alexander Mayrhofer> Other concensus algorithms might still be vulnerable to similar attacks, though - but "Proof of Work", for example, has less ecological impact.
[14:25:38] <Alexander Mayrhofer> Other concensus algorithms might still be vulnerable to similar attacks, though - but "Proof of Stake", for example, has less ecological impact.
[14:27:11] <Daniel Burnett> Good point Alexander.  The presentation probably applies equally to Ethereum under PoS, for example.
[14:28:54] <Sandra Murphy> the work seems to rely strongly on the assumptions of routing policy.  in real world routing policy is baroque and bizaare.  (but looking forward to reading the paper to see how the policy assumptions work!)
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[14:30:45] fenton has set the subject to: IRTFOPEN @ IETF-102 - https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/materials/agenda-102-irtfopen-00
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[14:31:42] <Alexander Mayrhofer> True. The benefit of the attack is similar, but i tend to agree to what Phillip said - PoW is hopefully soon a Dinosaur of the past..
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[14:32:52] <Tobias Fiebig (TU Delft)> So... for some attribution... who made that good comment about BTC burning down our planet?
[14:33:11] <fenton> That was Phillip Hallam-Baker.
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[14:33:53] <Tobias Fiebig (TU Delft)> fenton: thanks :-)
[14:34:00] <Alexander Mayrhofer> @Tobias: Phillip Halam Baker
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[21:08:52] <Amankin> I apologize for not having gotten a jabber scribe - when I first looked, the room was empty.  Will pass the question to Maria for sim.
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