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[09:18:33] <Benno Overeinder> Johanna Amann presenting "Mission Accomplished" HTTPS Security after DigiNotar
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[09:20:09] <Benno Overeinder> Johanna Amann, ANRP Talk: Mission Accomplished? HTTPS After DigiNotar <https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/slides-103-irtfopen-johanna-amann-anrp-talk-mission-accomplished-https-after-diginotar-02>
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[09:31:17] <Benno Overeinder> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/materials/agenda-103-maprg-06.html The Rise of Certificate Transparency and Its Implications on the Internet Ecosystem (Quirin Scheitle, Oliver Gasser, Theodor Nolte, Johanna Amann, Lexi Brent, Georg Carle, Ralph Holz, Thomas C. Schmidt, Matthias Wählisch)
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[09:54:53] <Benno Overeinder> Question at the mic: [missed the name]
[09:56:11] <Benno Overeinder> Ulrich Wisser: 3 ways of SCTP proof, not mutually exclusive
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[09:56:38] <Melinda> SCT - signed certificate timestamp
[09:56:40] <Martin Thomson> Mozilla maintains telemetry on certificate sizes that might be helpful
[09:56:47] <Martin Thomson> we can also corroborate many of these results
[09:57:10] <Benno Overeinder> Wes Hardiker: other uses of tls than for web?
[09:57:51] <Martin Thomson> e.g., RSA key sizes (no prizes for guessing what the tall column represents): https://mzl.la/2P7ZiTT
[09:58:29] <Benno Overeinder> Johanna: Yes we do. Looked at e.g. SMTP. Deployment worse than for https
[09:58:31] <Martin Thomson> sorry, this is probably less noisy: https://mzl.la/2PcJrTQ (The other was for static RSA only)
[09:58:56] <Benno Overeinder> Wes Hardiker: Look at DANE usage/deployment
[09:59:03] <Benno Overeinder> Cristian Huitema at the mic.
[09:59:37] <Benno Overeinder> 1.3 will encrypt sni
[09:59:51] <Benno Overeinder> Johanna: makes my work more difficult.
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[10:01:00] <Martin Thomson> I can explain what was going on with the odd versions
[10:01:33] <Martin Thomson> Google and Facebook both ran some experiments with different handshake shapes in an effort to determine what would pass through different middleboxes
[10:01:35] <Benno Overeinder> Aanchal Malhotra at the mic.
[10:02:06] <Benno Overeinder> On the deployment fo mechanism.
[10:02:32] <Benno Overeinder> missed name at the mic: if blokced, then blocked for months.
[10:02:57] <Martin Thomson> that was Yoav Nir
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[10:03:34] <Benno Overeinder> Matt Ford: suprised not more diverse vantage points in measurements
[10:04:02] <Benno Overeinder> Johanna: difference between active and passive measurements.
[10:04:46] <Benno Overeinder> active scan gives a highly skewed data points.
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[10:06:07] <Benno Overeinder> Related talk tomorrow in MAPRG
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