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[16:18:23] <bert> slide 5: agenda
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[16:22:06] <bert> slides: http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07jul/slides/isms-2.ppt
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[16:26:29] <sharonchisholm> (it's IETF 69)
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[16:30:03] <davidbnelson> name masping needed for the "other direction" when it identifies a host
[16:31:25] <davidbnelson> transport model proposes securityName, security model determines it
[16:32:38] <davidbnelson> wes - who gets to pick teh format regardig teh scurityParameters/
[16:34:48] <davidbnelson> wes - worries about sending zeroes on transmit
[16:35:54] <davidbnelson> jeff - can use other security models with the transport model
[16:37:03] <bert> slides: http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/07jul/slides/isms-1.ppt
[16:37:08] <bert> By David Nelson
[16:47:48] <jhutz> <sigh> RADIUS people have such a bizarre model of things
[16:50:12] <jhutz> Is the NAS Management Attributes draft even in scope for ISMS? I'm not sure it is, unless it gets considerably stripped down.
[16:59:30] <sharonchisholm> bert should do it
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[17:01:53] <bert> luckily that is a lowercase should
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[17:02:11] <hartmans@jis.mit.edu/owl> You know, hubmib closed down. . . He still wants to be able to attend wgchairs events, doesn't he?
[17:02:58] <bert> HUBMIB did not yet close down, but probably will do so soon
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