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[11:14:41] <Meetecho Admin> this is the link for joining the meetecho KRB session http://www.meetecho.com/ietf83/krb
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[11:59:10] <Simon Romano> Hello there...switching rooms :-)
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[11:59:48] <Jeffrey Hutzelman> i am hearing no audio in this room. I assume it's just not set up yet?
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[12:00:08] <hartmans> there is not yet a meeting
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[12:02:05] <jhutz@jis.mit.edu/owl> Streaming audio (via meetecho) is working.
Phone has no audio
[12:02:45] <Simon Romano> It's coming...
[12:02:50] <Simon Romano> One second...
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[12:04:57] <Simon Romano> Can you hear the room now on the phone?
[12:05:08] <Simon Romano> You have to dial the kitten numner, btw.
[12:05:20] <jhutz@jis.mit.edu/owl> Yeah, I'll have to dial in again; one sec.
[12:05:28] <Tobia Castaldi> +1-323-927-1090
[12:06:01] <jhutz@jis.mit.edu/owl> I still hear nothing on that number
[12:07:08] <Dan York> Slides currently being discussed: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-kitten-5.pdf
[12:07:41] <Dan York> Back to chair's slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-kitten-3.pdf
[12:07:59] <Dan York> slide 7 - draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-openid
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[12:08:06] <Tobia Castaldi> try to dial again now
[12:08:16] <Dan York> slide 8
[12:08:36] <Scott Cantor> Yes
[12:08:42] <Dan York> slide 9 - draft-ietf-kitten-sasl-saml-ec
[12:09:10] <tlyu> Simon, are you in meetecho?
[12:09:20] <Dan York> SAML-EC slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-kitten-4.pdf
[12:09:21] <tlyu> sorry, Scott, are you in meetecho?
[12:09:31] <hartmans> We also hear us
[12:10:00] <Simon Josefsson> I'm here but not dialed in
[12:10:23] <jhutz@jis.mit.edu/owl> Someone has an open microphone near their speaker!
[12:10:29] <Scott Cantor> sorry, no head set here at home at the moment
[12:10:39] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: SAML-EC Status
[12:10:42] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: Status of Drafts
[12:10:48] <jhutz@jis.mit.edu/owl> Then you need to mute your speakers if you're talking.
Or mute yourself otherwise.
[12:11:00] <Simon Romano> Exactly
[12:11:05] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: Known Open Issues
[12:11:11] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: Known Open Issues
[12:11:12] <Tobia Castaldi> Scott, you can use the telephone
[12:11:15] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: Naming
[12:11:20] <Tobia Castaldi> call his number
[12:11:21] <Tobia Castaldi> +1-323-927-1090
[12:11:49] <Scott Cantor> calling now
[12:12:00] <Tobia Castaldi> then dial *51 to unmute/mute youreself
[12:12:10] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: Crypto Additions
[12:12:11] <Tobia Castaldi> stop the voip call of course
[12:12:25] <jhutz@jis.mit.edu/owl> The effect we just saw is why Speakerphones Are Hard :-)
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[12:13:04] <Tobia Castaldi> :)
[12:13:10] <Scott Cantor> i seem to be muted
[12:13:17] <Simon Romano> *51
[12:13:20] <Scott Cantor> i did
[12:13:21] <Lorenzo Miniero> dial *51 (star five one) to unmute yourself
[12:13:42] <Scott Cantor> not working to unmute
[12:13:46] <jhutz@jis.mit.edu/owl> Yeah; the unmute didn't work for me when I tried earlier.
[12:14:05] <Scott Cantor> yeah, its muted
[12:14:13] <Dan York> Slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-kitten-2.pdf
[12:14:13] <Simon Romano> Presentation stopped
[12:14:15] <Tobia Castaldi> scot
[12:14:21] <Tobia Castaldi> wait a minute
[12:14:37] <Tobia Castaldi> I'm trying to unmute you
[12:14:44] <Dan York> Slide 2
[12:14:46] <Scott Cantor> no big deal
[12:14:56] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: Issues in “A SASL and GSS-API Mechanis
[12:14:57] <Simon Romano> Slide 2: Why do we now have HTTP formatted SASL m
[12:15:03] <Dan York> "Why do we now have HTTP formatted SASL messages in the draft?"
[12:15:36] <Dan York> spromano - I'm glad to let you scribe... I can be here as a backup.
[12:15:36] <Tobia Castaldi> you should be unmuted now
[12:15:38] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: What can we do instead?
[12:15:49] <Tobia Castaldi> try to say "test"
[12:16:04] <Tobia Castaldi> ok
[12:16:09] <Tobia Castaldi> I can hear you
[12:16:09] <Scott Cantor> thx
[12:16:27] <Scott Cantor> I muted locally, so you can leave me unmuted
[12:16:29] <Lorenzo Miniero> just tell us when you want to talk and are done talking and we'll take care of it :)
[12:16:32] <Lorenzo Miniero> ok
[12:16:48] <Tobia Castaldi> perfect
[12:17:20] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: Sizing up the options…
[12:18:49] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: Other Issues
[12:20:27] <Simon Josefsson> I'm planning to implement. I prefer non-html format.
[12:20:53] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: Sizing up the options…
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[12:22:09] <Simon Josefsson> s/html/http/
[12:22:45] <jhutz@jis.mit.edu/owl> Where should we be sending feedback on meetecho?
[12:22:49] <Simon Josefsson> I don't feel strongly about it
[12:23:02] <Tobia Castaldi> team@meetecho.com
[12:26:19] <tlyu> section 5.1 of the sasl-oauth draft on screen
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[12:30:13] <Thomas Hardjono> Is Hannes proposing a JSON format?
[12:30:31] <Simon Romano> @Scott: are you still there?
[12:30:34] <jimsch> I don't think so
[12:31:05] <Scott Cantor> I am, yes.
[12:31:27] <Simon Romano> Ok...is your audio ok?
[12:31:37] <Scott Cantor> yes
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[12:32:05] <Simon Romano> Good.
[12:33:10] <Dan York> Hannes at the mic
[12:34:56] <hartmans> I'm confused why someone is taking pictures in this session.
[12:35:25] <sftcd> @sam: seems like a P-R dude
[12:35:30] <Lorenzo Miniero> may be for the journal
[12:35:44] <Simon Josefsson> oauth 1.x and oauth 2.x are quite different and even use different terminology. the document right now is oauth 2.x only.
[12:35:59] <hartmans> Hmm.
[12:36:52] <Dan York> We (ISOC) have a photographer going around to sessions taking photos for promotion of IETF.
[12:37:18] <Lorenzo Miniero> I would have combed my hair if only I knew :)
[12:37:19] <Dan York> Some of them will go up on the ISOC website, Flickr account, etc.
[12:37:52] <Dan York> lorenzo621: Ha!
[12:38:33] <sftcd> @lorenzo: think he caught me snoozing;-)
[12:39:03] <hartmans> @sftcd brings Ad speedyness to new levels!
[12:39:06] <Simon Romano> Presentation stopped
[12:39:54] <Dan York> Slides: http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/83/slides/slides-83-kitten-1.pdf
[12:40:20] <Dan York> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-melnikov-precis-saslprepbis-00
[12:40:35] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: (draft-melnikov-precis-saslprepbis)
[12:40:39] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: A Bit of History (2)
[12:40:52] <Simon Romano> Slide 3: A Bit of History (2)
[12:40:54] <Simon Romano> Slide 4: A Bit of History (3)
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[12:41:50] <Simon Romano> Slide 5: SASLprep (RFC 4013)
[12:42:27] <Simon Romano> @Dan...is draft-melnikov-precis-saslprepbis-00 the next one on shcedule?
[12:42:44] <Simon Romano> Slide 6: User Names, Bis
[12:43:47] <Dan York> No, that's the draft attached to these slides.
[12:43:58] <Simon Romano> Right...thanks.
[12:45:02] <Simon Romano> Slide 7: Passwords, Bis
[12:46:40] <Simon Romano> Slide 8: Open Issues
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[12:46:54] <jhutz@jis.mit.edu/owl> USE THE MIC
[12:48:36] <sftcd> sorry jeff, i was just wondering how a bidi password might (not) work
[12:48:39] <Simon Romano> Presentation stopped
[12:48:41] <sftcd> no deal for her
[12:48:44] <sftcd> s/her/here
[12:49:19] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: draft-ietf-abfab-gss-eap-naming
[12:49:35] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: draft-ietf-abfab-gss-eap-naming
[12:50:23] <Simon Romano> Slide 1: draft-ietf-abfab-gss-eap-naming
[12:51:41] <jhutz@jis.mit.edu/owl> Yes, urn:ietf:params:gss:fed-saml-assertion is very short :-)
[12:51:59] <Tobia Castaldi> :)
[12:52:31] <Scott Cantor> please don't abbreviate things
[12:53:49] <sujing > who
[12:53:58] <Simon Josefsson> s/fed/federated/ then?
[12:54:21] <Scott Cantor> no, I was responding to the notion of "eliding" the whole URN
[12:54:47] <Simon Josefsson> i agree on that
[12:55:00] <jhutz@jis.mit.edu/owl> scott, you cannot talk if your speaker is open
[12:55:22] <jhutz@jis.mit.edu/owl> Oh, you're using the phone, and seeing the same problem I did.
[12:56:02] <jhutz@jis.mit.edu/owl> Also gss :-)
[12:56:23] <jimsch> I think it should be fully spelt out and add the api
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[12:57:08] <Simon Romano> See you on-line!
[12:57:11] <Tobia Castaldi> bye
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[12:57:15] <jhutz@jis.mit.edu/owl> Perhaps we should register a new URN namespace:
urn:internet-engineering-task-force:parameters
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[12:57:26] <Thomas Hardjono> Bye all.
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[12:57:49] <Simon Josefsson> uniform-resource-name:internet-engineering-task-force:parameters, please
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[12:58:42] <Scott Cantor> so long folks, time to go to work
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