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[17:37:54] <victoria.mercieca> Evening (or afternoon) all!
[17:38:29] <abdussalam.baryun> good evening
[17:40:03] <hrogge@googlemail.com> good evening (from Germany)
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[17:41:27] <victoria.mercieca> Evening John!
[17:41:59] <John Dowdell> Hello Vicky!
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[17:55:52] <victoria.mercieca> Hi Rick
[17:56:15] <Rick Taylor> Evening All
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[17:58:26] <hrogge@googlemail.com> is the audio-stream already running?
[17:58:52] <bebemaster> did you here that?
[17:58:53] <Rick Taylor> I'm struggling with it.. :(
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[17:59:54] <John Dowdell> Can't connect
[17:59:59] <hrogge@googlemail.com> me too
[18:00:31] <inesrob> now u should
[18:00:35] <inesrob> be able to connect
[18:00:48] <bebemaster> if you are using macs I can only get it to work by using itunes not a web browser.
[18:01:00] <John Dowdell> Connected now
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[18:02:02] <hrogge@googlemail.com> I think the audio stream is active, but I do not hear any voice
[18:02:14] <bebemaster> I'll test again
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[18:02:37] <hrogge@googlemail.com> yes, its working
[18:02:38] <abdussalam.baryun> ok
[18:02:42] <John Dowdell> Fine
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[18:10:32] <bebemaster> working group document slide
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[18:12:24] <hrogge@googlemail.com> are the slides somewhere online?
[18:12:27] <inesrob> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/slides/slides-85-manet-5.pdf
[18:12:29] <inesrob> here
[18:12:38] <inesrob> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/85/materials.html#wg-manet
[18:12:48] <inesrob> u can access to the other ones
[18:12:55] <abdussalam.baryun> We need thoes comments on the list please so WG can read
[18:13:18] <abdussalam.baryun> To: chair the request
[18:13:48] <abdussalam.baryun> the rationale draft had no questions on the list
[18:16:08] <abdussalam.baryun> thanks
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[18:17:23] <Rick Taylor> Is there an alternate URL for the audiofeed?
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[18:18:01] <abdussalam.baryun> no voice heard
[18:18:04] <bebemaster> LOADng slides
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[18:18:16] <abdussalam.baryun> ok thanks
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[18:26:27] <abdussalam.baryun> I have only one question TO: the presenter, is there results of performance or reference I can read?
[18:28:14] <abdussalam.baryun> Is there slides for Charlie
[18:28:15] <bebemaster> I'll save all comments for after as per requested by the chairs.
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[18:28:31] <bebemaster> Ulrich is supposed to have uploaded them will double check.
[18:29:31] <abdussalam.baryun> do you see slides there because we have no clue
[18:29:32] <cedric.chauvenet> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/85/slides/slides-85-manet-7.ppt
[18:30:31] <abdussalam.baryun> thanks
[18:34:22] <hrogge@googlemail.com> Question to Charly: "Does LOADng compatibility mean you want to participate in interop tests with the existing implementations?"
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[18:44:16] <abdussalam.baryun> To Charlie and Chairs, I am not sure of the history of merging, and the option of merge, and do you think it is better to just have AODVv2?
[18:45:02] <abdussalam.baryun> Or is their possibility of mergeing them or it is off
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[18:47:01] <abdussalam.baryun> why off line? to chair
[18:47:29] <abdussalam.baryun> should be inside IETF online
[18:47:55] <Henning Rogge> @abdussalam: yes, but most likely the answer would take more time than we have in this meeting.
[18:48:14] <abdussalam.baryun> I ended my questions for this subject, thanks,
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[18:48:21] <bebemaster> ok
[18:49:19] <abdussalam.baryun> @Henning, you mean yes to be on the list, am I correct, :)
[18:50:38] <Henning Rogge> @Abdussalam: asking the question to the chair on the list would be an option.
[18:51:57] <abdussalam.baryun> some one asked already a question and Stan told him he will answer off line, so I suggested on the list,
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[18:55:18] <abdussalam.baryun> My question still not at Charlie please!!
[18:55:35] <bebemaster> which question? I may have missed it.
[18:55:53] <abdussalam.baryun> To Charlie and Chairs, I am not sure of the history of merging, and the option of merge, and do you think it is better to just have AODVv2?
[18:56:02] <abdussalam.baryun> Or is their possibility of mergeing them or it is off
[18:56:12] <bebemaster> ok will ask
[18:56:22] <abdussalam.baryun> thanks
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[19:06:02] <abdussalam.baryun> who speaking
[19:07:30] <bebemaster> ulrich herberg
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[19:10:33] <abdussalam.baryun> I hope we can go to DLEP
[19:11:04] <Henning Rogge> me too
[19:11:10] <Rick Taylor> And me...
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[19:11:52] <abdussalam.baryun> do we have just 19 minutes left
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[19:15:53] <Henning Rogge> @bebemaster: 15 minutes left... and we didn't even started on DLEP :(
[19:16:09] <bebemaster> yeah I know....
[19:16:22] <abdussalam.baryun> Maybe the presentation will eat 10 min
[19:16:33] <bebemaster> it is a VERY short presentation...
[19:16:49] <abdussalam.baryun> hopefully 2 min
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[19:18:54] <Rick Taylor> Yes please!
[19:19:04] <abdussalam.baryun> yes
[19:19:29] <abdussalam.baryun> I already suggested that Reactive discussions should be in the end
[19:19:37] <bebemaster> Ulrich talking about management no slides up.
[19:19:42] <Henning Rogge> -.-
[19:19:45] <abdussalam.baryun> but chairs did not do that
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[19:20:28] <bebemaster> DLEP presentation
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[19:22:19] <Henning Rogge> Question: when will DLEP-04 will be published?
[19:22:53] <Rick Taylor> @Davi8d - Yes, definitely.. a very useful document
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[19:24:01] <Henning Rogge> Comment to metrics: we should have a larger set of standardized of metric TLVs... most of them optional. So Radios and Routers who want to use them will be interoperable
[19:24:25] <Rick Taylor> Comment to metrics, there must be a core subset.
[19:25:13] <Rick Taylor> @Thomas, I totally agree 5444 is unnecessary
[19:26:06] <abdussalam.baryun> agree too
[19:27:42] <Henning Rogge> @Stan: I already have
[19:27:45] <ivancic> Sorry I could not make the meeting. Are you considering a DLEP-Lite such as modemLPA?
[19:28:32] <abdussalam.baryun> chair voice not clear
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[19:29:29] <Rick Taylor> Yes?
[19:29:38] <bebemaster> yes
[19:30:08] <hrogge@googlemail.com> @ivancic: did you read the personal draft I sent to the list? maybe there are a few things inside we could use for a DLEP-Lite
[19:30:30] <bebemaster> do you want me to talk to the mike hrogge?
[19:30:41] <hrogge@googlemail.com> @bebe: not really time for it anymore
[19:30:52] <hrogge@googlemail.com> @bebe: lets take it to the list
[19:31:04] <abdussalam.baryun> yes agree
[19:31:13] <Rick Taylor> @teco: Surely with a crypto int he way you proxy on the black-side?
[19:31:17] <bebemaster> thanks everyone for participating
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[19:31:33] <bebemaster> please take comments which were not addressed to the list
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[19:31:37] <abdussalam.baryun> thanks, bye
[19:31:39] <inesrob> thanks for the meeting
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[19:31:56] <ivancic> Thanks all, Bye.
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[19:33:17] <teco.boot> To Rick: crypto could have data diode, passing the DLEP traffic (low to high)
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