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[15:17:14] <danyork> SDP Capability Negotiation by Flemming Andreasen
[15:17:20] <danyork> http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/06jul/slides/mmusic-3.pdf
[15:17:37] <danyork> slide 4
[15:18:41] <danyork> audio is probably at http://videolab.uoregon.edu/events/ietf/ietf663.m3u
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[15:25:04] <danyork> is everyone here in the room?
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[15:25:18] <danyork> here == "513" in Montreal
[15:25:35] <danyork> i.e. should I be jabber-scribing?
[15:28:06] <jean-francois> unclear given the # of people
[15:28:34] <jean-francois> ysuzuki: r u in the mmusic room too?
[15:29:04] <jean-francois> i mean the actual room#513?
[15:29:31] <ysuzuki> I'm in mmusic room
[15:30:03] <ysuzuki> #513CDE
[15:30:05] <danyork> okay... then I'm not going to scribe until someone indicates they need it
[15:30:29] * danyork has set the topic to: MMUSIC - 2nd session - 513CDE - we are NOT scribing unless someone asks for it.
[15:31:48] <jean-francois> i'd second your motion, sir
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[15:55:44] <ysuzuki> danyork: could you start scribing?
[15:55:55] <danyork> sure
[15:55:59] <danyork> new preso
[15:56:07] <danyork> thomas schierl, Fraunhofer
[15:56:21] <danyork> signaling medi decoding dependency
[15:57:04] <danyork> http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/06jul/slides/mmusic-4.pdf
[15:57:26] <danyork> slide 2 - motivation
[15:57:41] <danyork> slide 3
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[16:00:05] <danyork> next slide - Design principles
[16:02:57] <danyork> speaker done
[16:03:02] <danyork> no one at the mic
[16:03:24] <danyork> next preso - Security Descriptions Extension for IPSec
[16:03:36] <danyork> Makoto Saito
[16:06:31] <danyork> on the key-exchange methods slide
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[16:10:31] <danyork> presentation over - discussion going to the list
[16:10:40] <danyork> miguel garcia up now
[16:11:07] <danyork> (presos are rushing because in about 2 minutes they are going to start taking down the walls to get ready for the plenary)
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[16:15:08] <danyork> scribe has to leave
[16:15:36] <cullenfluffyjennings@gmail.com> I will scribe
[16:16:16] <cullenfluffyjennings@gmail.com> discution one why content indirection does not work
[16:16:37] <cullenfluffyjennings@gmail.com> works for message but does not give you inofrmation you need to decide if you want to accept it
[16:16:47] <cullenfluffyjennings@gmail.com> do not want to rely on thrid party place to store
[16:18:12] <cullenfluffyjennings@gmail.com> Paul K - idea you want to negoatiate what the file is before you transfer this is a good idea
[16:18:40] <cullenfluffyjennings@gmail.com> Point that this works for MSRP, HTTP, ftp, whatever transfer type
[16:20:04] <cullenfluffyjennings@gmail.com> Resoltuion: there is intereest in working on this - shoudl take this draft as starting point - it has been around long time
[16:20:25] <cullenfluffyjennings@gmail.com> If you don't like this, write a draft before next IETF
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[16:45:45] <cabo> Is this meeting ever going to end?
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